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March 4, 2003

Adam Felber has obtained the US government’s list of interrogation questions for Khalid Shaikh Mohammad:
  • What were you doing so far from Iraq?
  • Where’s Osama bin Laden? In Iraq?
  • Seriously, you’re just trying to distract us from your secret hideout in Iraq, right?
  • Say, didn’t I see you at the Baghdad Flower Festival last June?
And so forth. Felber also observes:
We shouldn’t forget that Mohammed wasn’t captured by the U.S. alone. We relied heavily on the help and resources of something called an “ally.”
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Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: March 04, 2003, 02:16 PM:

Anyone who has done any reading about organisations such as the Resistance in Nazi-occupied Europe will have come across a possibly-relevant idea.

Assume the captive will talk. If you learn one of your people is a captive, assume the enemy know everything he does. Move to a new location. Start using a different ID. And do it fast; because you have plans, you have told the guy he only has to hold out against torture for a few days.

It's almost as if the USA isn't interested in using any info this guy might have about Islamic Terrorists. They just told everyone who worked with the guy, and who has the wit to work it all out, that their cover is blown. They'll run and hide, and it'll disrupt things somewhat, but it really looks as though they're not interested in the people who destroyed the WTC.

David Bilek ::: (view all by) ::: March 04, 2003, 02:51 PM:

Perhaps you missed that it was, in fact, the Pakistanis who first released the information that Mohammed had been captured? US authorities were by all accounts very upset that the information was released so quickly. They wanted some time to roll up al Qaeda operations.

Possible reasons why some members of Pakistani intelligence may have released the information so early are left as an exercise for the reader.

Barry ::: (view all by) ::: March 04, 2003, 09:01 PM:

Also, you have to read between the lines very carefully. I don't know about this case, but we've seen at least one case where the arrest was announced long after it was made (Padilla, IIRC). I haven't read enough stories in this case to know, but it's always something to check.

Barry ::: (view all by) ::: March 04, 2003, 09:05 PM:

David, I hadn't thought of it that way. It is interesting, isn't it? Good thing that Pakistan doesn't have any nuclear - d'oh!

Kip ::: (view all by) ::: March 04, 2003, 10:01 PM:

Don't worry about the allies. Sure, America's been addicted to them a long time, but it looks like we're finally kicking the habit.

Gary Farber ::: (view all by) ::: March 06, 2003, 11:59 AM:

Um, the connections between al Queda and Iraq are minimal. I think everyone grasps that.

Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: March 06, 2003, 02:01 PM:

Except Bush, Powell, and just about all the pro-war numbskulls in my office. (The pro-war folks who are NOT numbskulls do grasp it.)

Stefan Jones ::: (view all by) ::: March 07, 2003, 12:47 AM:

I think skepticism about the Iraq-al-Qeada connection is starting to have an effect on Bush's selection of talking points.

In his oddly subdued press conference, Bush took pains to mention un-named other terrorist groups.

Patrick Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: March 07, 2003, 10:46 PM:

"Um, the connections between al Quada and Iraq are minimal. I think everyone grasps that."

I doubt very much that "everyone grasps that," particularly considering the amount of energy the Administration and its cheerleaders have put into obscuring the distinction.

If "everyone grasps that," it's hard to see why a majority of Americans polled turned out to believe that a majority (or, even, any) of the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi.

Of course, if you're a supporter of war on Iraq, it's certainly more comfortable to suppose that "everyone grasps that." Much nicer to believe that the war machine is being driven by mature, thoughtful consensus. The idea that the country is led by bumbling maniacs and is about to go straight to Hell is a lot less comfortable. So we get the spectacle of previously intelligent people convincing themselves night is day. We all adapt to intolerable circumstances in our own ways.