Go to previous post:
Still here.

Go to Electrolite's front page.

Go to next post:
Thoughtful, global, and overloading his server:

Our Admirable Sponsors

March 24, 2003

Gene Healy directs our attention to the Anti-Imperialist League, whose members included Mark Twain, Carl Schurz, Samuel Gompers—and Andrew Carnegie.
Its 1899 platform declared: “We hold that the policy known as imperialism is hostile to liberty and tends toward militarism, an evil from which it has been our glory to be free.” Left and Right, union men and capitalists worked together to oppose the drift from Republic to Empire. […] In an odd mix of Randian-capitalism-meets-altruism, Carnegie even “offered to buy the Philippines from the United States to give the islands their independence.” The opponents of Empire are heirs to a proud tradition. It’s a good answer to ANSWER.
[10:57 PM]
Welcome to Electrolite's comments section.
Hard-Hitting Moderator: Teresa Nielsen Hayden.

Comments on Gene Healy:

Avram ::: (view all by) ::: March 24, 2003, 11:47 PM:

I just like saying "Gompers".

George ::: (view all by) ::: March 25, 2003, 12:26 AM:

Thanks for this topic. Taylor Caldwell, the author, dealt with this issue, especially with regards to WW1.
Internet users or "armchair purveyors of information" can play a new role. It's new, for me anyway, and I just post links to alternative viewpoints, e.g. on the hopelessly rabid Yahoo message boards (see their guidelines, then see the content!).
If anyone has a "manual for armchair disseminators",
please post it here or send me a copy.

--k. ::: (view all by) ::: March 25, 2003, 10:10 AM:

Is it just me, or is anyone else momentarily tickled by imagining the Anti-Imperialist League as a Yankee spin-off of Alan Moore's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? Two-fisted Andrew Carnegie, the snarky quippage of Mark Twain, tormented mastermind Samuel Gompers--

It's just me, isn't it. (I doubt George Soros is rich enough, but the idea of purchasing Iraq to liberate it is blasphemously enticing.)

Ulrika O'Brien ::: (view all by) ::: March 25, 2003, 10:59 AM:


No, it isn't *just* you. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is the first thing I flashed on when I read the phrase "Anti-Imperialist League".

Simon ::: (view all by) ::: March 25, 2003, 02:04 PM:

Anti-imperialist Mark Twain was seated at a banquet next to a young hawkish politician from the UK, and they had a heated but courteous argument over the Boer War. The politician didn't go into specifics when he mentioned this in his memoirs years later, but one gets the impression that he was entirely outargued by Mark Twain.

You can read about it in Sir Winston Churchill's My Early Life.

Tom ::: (view all by) ::: March 25, 2003, 02:28 PM:

For fans of modern dance, Mark Morris set a piece called "World Power" to Mark Twain's writings against the Spanish-American war. Great piece of work (both the dance and Twain's polemic)

cf. http://www.danceinsider.com/f2001/f315_3.html

Also see http://xroads.virginia.edu/~DRBR/sitting.html



Bill Humphries ::: (view all by) ::: March 25, 2003, 05:16 PM:

Kip, if Soros' has his wallet open, maybe he can buy back our country first. :)