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March 29, 2003

Okay, we’re over our stupid snit. Meanwhile, William Gibson has this to say:

“Umm Qasr is a town similar to Southampton,” UK Defence Minister Geoff Hoon told the House of Commons yesterday. “He’s either never been to Southampton, or he’s never been to Umm Qasr,” said one British soldier, informed of this while on patrol in Umm Qasr. Another added: “There’s no beer, no prostitutes, and people are shooting at us. It’s more like Portsmouth.”

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Comments on Okay, we're over our stupid snit.:

Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: March 29, 2003, 12:32 AM:

Hey, we all snit once in a while. It would be hypocritical to be hypercritical of your snitting...and besides, if no one snitted, where would we get our nice snitted gloves and sweaters?

Please ignore this comment. I'm going to bed now, I swear. In fact, do not read this sentence...oops, too late. Glrg bonfets blrlro ombita shlub.

Brad DeLong ::: (view all by) ::: March 29, 2003, 12:50 AM:

More proof that there will always be an England, or that the British educational system produces a wittier class of soldier than the American, or something...

Dave Bell ::: (view all by) ::: March 29, 2003, 01:55 AM:

Probably those giddy harumphodites, the Royal Marines, in this case. Who seem to have been having fun messing around in boats (and hovercraft) making sure of the remnants of the Iraqi Navy.

I'm sure Jack Aubrey would recognise the style.

Of course we're biased. We get a lot more TV pictures of the British armed forces over here, and so we're not seeing so much of what the US Army are doing. What we do see of what our soldiers is doing is a lot more impressive than all the swanning around in an Abrams.

Yeah, I'm biased.

Randolph Fritz ::: (view all by) ::: March 29, 2003, 04:07 AM:

LOL. The second 'blog post ever to get me to do that. (First was one of Emma's.)

David Wilford ::: (view all by) ::: March 29, 2003, 09:58 AM:

the Brits
have wits

while the Yanks
are just cranks

Saudi Shave

George ::: (view all by) ::: March 29, 2003, 11:36 AM:


in response to the host's criticism, I am posting the link to an article I had pasted earlier;

Please pray for all victims of this conflict; I truly believe that's our best hope.
(just an example:

Mary Kay ::: (view all by) ::: March 29, 2003, 12:58 PM:

Glad to hear you're over your snit. I read Electrolite just before going to bed last night and came down this morning ready to kick ass, set everyone in a corner, and, and found this. (Yes I did go to bed very early last night. What's it to ya?) I still wonder if I ought to go to Thursday's thread and tell everyone to stop being so dammed superior at everyone else. Nah, probably just stir things up.

This particular incident is so funny I can't help wondering if it really happened.


Rob Hansen ::: (view all by) ::: March 30, 2003, 03:53 AM:

Oh, I'm sure it happened as reported, Mary Kay. It rings true and is in keeping with a long tradition of such wit. When, after the Battle of Britain, Churchill praised the fighter pilots who had saved us with the words "never in the history of human conflict have so many owed so much to so few" one of them commented "uh oh, looks like he's heard about our bar bills".

Andrew Brown ::: (view all by) ::: March 30, 2003, 04:32 AM:

Two of the first soldiers killed came from Carver Barracks about three miles away from Saffron Walden. The squaddies drink at the Queen Lizzie at the bottom of our road, whose owner also runs a B&B which doubles as the local brothel. The odd things is that young men come from miles around to fight them on Saturday nights. There was a really horrible incident a few months back when two soldiers were beaten senseless by the local yoof. So the joke about Southampton makes a lot of sense: soldiers do draw a tremendous amount of hostility from young men who aren't, but might be, soldiers themselves.

I had expected that there would a terrible retaliation from the squaddies. But there wasn't. This may be because they are sappers (engineers). Still, the survivors of this campaign will be left alone in pubs for a while after this.

Erik V. Olson ::: (view all by) ::: March 30, 2003, 09:41 AM:

I had expected that there would a terrible retaliation from the squaddies. But there wasn't. This may be because they are sappers (engineers).

Oogh. All the infantry and marines will do is beat the living snot out of you. Never, ever, ever piss off an engineer. He might get creative.

Andrew Brown ::: (view all by) ::: March 30, 2003, 02:46 PM:

At the risk of pissing off an engineer, I would remind the court of the moment in "Gladiator at law" when the character who keeps saying "We engineers" gets the crap beaten ut of him by the hero, and is unable to come up with any kind of creative response.