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August 13, 2004

NH spotting. Behind the cut, our absurd schedule of public appearances at Noreascon 4, the upcoming 62nd World Science Fiction Convention, Boston, September 2-6.

Thursday, September 2

1 PM
PNH: “Did We Win? SF and Its Takeover of Popular Culture” (panel, with Moshe Feder, Liz Gorinsky, Joe Siclari, Graham Sleight, and Walter Jon Williams)

1 PM
TNH: “Deconstructing Mary Sue” (talk)

3 PM
TNH: “All That Gothic Stuff” (panel, with Paula Guran, Bobbi King, Shariann Lewitt, Cecelia Tan, and Liz Williams)

4 PM
PNH: “Tolkien’s Techniques” (panel, with Phyllis Eisenstein, Daniel Grotta, Jo Walton, and Elise Matthesen)

4 PM
TNH: “As You Know, Bob: The Positives and Negatives of Infodumps” (panel, with Debra Doyle and Terry McGarry)

Friday, September 3

11 AM
PNH: Locus Awards ceremony (accepting the publisher’s award for Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom)

12 noon
PNH: “The World Map of 2100” (panel, with David McMahon, S. M. Stirling, Scott Westerfeld, and Jim Young)

3 PM
PNH & TNH: Viable Paradise special-interest event (introduction to the writing workshop)

4 PM
TNH: “The Civil War in SF” (panel, with Duncan Allen, Harry Turtledove, Toni Weisskopf, and Peter Weston)

5 PM
PNH: “Drunk on Technology” (panel, with Cory Doctorow and Charles Stross)

Saturday, September 4

11 AM
TNH: Art show docenting (with Ctein; attendance by advance signup)

1 PM
TNH: “Freedom, Security, and Privacy” (panel, with Cory Doctorow, Joseph Lazzaro, and Don Sakers)

3 PM
PNH: “Authors and Editors” (panel, with Paul DiFilippo, Carl Frederick, and Beth Meacham)

3 PM
TNH: “Tough Love for New Writers” (panel, with Gavin Grant, David Hartwell, Steve Miller, and Priscilla Olson)

4 PM
TNH: “Alien Genres” (panel, with Elizabeth Caldwell, Tanya Huff, Sue Krinard, and Michelle Sagara West)

8 PM
PNH & TNH: Hugo Awards ceremony (presenting the “Best Related Book” Hugo)

Sunday, September 5

11 AM
PNH: “Books That Died Despite Everything” (panel, with John Jarrold, Jane Jewell, Janna Silverstein, Jonathan Strahan, and Jacob Weisman)

3 PM
PNH & TNH: Kaffeeklatsch (informal discussion roundtable with coffee; attendance by advance signup)

4 PM
PNH & TNH: Forthcoming from Tor Books (informal presentation, along with other Tor editors)

5 PM
TNH: “The Pains and Promises of Rejection Slips” (panel, with Janna Silverstein, Charles Stross, and Jo Walton)

Monday, September 6

11 AM
PNH: “Images of Loss in The Lord of the Rings” (panel, with Debra Doyle, Mary Kay Kare, Michael Swanwick, and Jo Walton)

12 noon
PNH: “Transcendental Adventure” (panel, with Gregory Benford, Jim Frenkel, David Hartwell, and Charles Obendorf) [11:40 AM]

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Comments on NH spotting.:

Mary Kay ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 12:09 PM:

Wow! The two of us have a total of 20 items. You've got 21. The perils of being well known to the head of programming. My current dilemma is Thursday evening. I'm playing Nanny Ogg in the Terry Pratchett trial at 7pm and I'm scheduled to be on the reading the works of absent authors thingy at 9pm. And there's this party starting at 9pm of which I'm supposed to be the hostess.... I figure I can probably do a reading and cut out early -- I hope, but I'm gonna be sorely pressed to get things ready. Trouble is, I really really really want to do Nanny and the reading thing was my idea, so....

MKK--8 panels and the TAFF/DUFF auction

Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 12:24 PM:

Well, I have zero, unless they tell me the "Why I scream while watching Stargate" or "Stratificational Linguistics" panel and discussion respectively came through. But having heard nothing, I expect they were laughed out of the room...

My sympathies for that grueling schedule, NHs. And the Tor party and attendant planning and setup aren't even on the list. Oy.

Mary Kay ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 01:04 PM:

Patrick: I have blatantly stolen your idea and the Kare schedule is now available at Gallimaufry should any choose to peruse it.

Xopher: I happen to know quite well the person charged with scheduling Special Interest Group Discussions (that would be me). If you'd really like to have a discussion group on either or both of those topics, it so happens there are holes in the schedule. Speak quickly and we might even still be able to get it in the pocket program.


Xopher ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 01:33 PM:

MKK: I speak! I do! Arf!

I was asked to show people how Strat G. works, back a couple of months ago on Making Light. And in that conversation it also came up that the use of foreign and alien languages in SF is usually pretty laughable, especially in TV. We're talking the same order of absurdity as "rockets don't work outside the atmosphere because there's nothing to push against," OK?

So yeah: A Brief Overview of Stratificational Linguistics; and Language, History, and SF, or Why I Sometimes Scream While Watching Stargate SG-1.

Julia Jones ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 01:34 PM:

Boggling gently here...

What boggles me even more is that I'd intended to go to several of those *before* knowing who was going to be on them. Including having a "decisions, decisions" problem over 3pm on Saturday. So that deals with the tracking someone down to say "Hi, this is what I look like" for *two* of the people I know online. :-)

Being known to a con's programming committee has its drawbacks. Worst I've ever been hit with is "I know you'll have just got off a twenty four hour flight from Australia, but I also know you can wibble entertainingly about this subject even when jet-lagged, and even *you* can't get into a fight about this subject."

Diane ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 04:08 PM:

Mary Kay wrote: "I'm gonna be sorely pressed to get things ready."

Consider this an official offer of help. What can I do?

Avram ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 05:25 PM:

From a quick glance over the draft program, it looks like the panel subjects are mostly inferrable from the titles.

Bill Higgins--- Beam Jockey ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 06:53 PM:

Mary Kay:

Patrick: I have blatantly stolen your idea and the Kare schedule is now available at Gallimaufry should any choose to peruse it.

How's 'bout a link?

(In the original draft, I was three separate people, assigned to twelve panels. So my schedule is under revision, and I can't post it yet.)

John M. Ford ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 07:24 PM:

"I've got no trouble with reading the works of absent authors," said Gytha Ogg, with a blood-freezing calm. "Quite a few of the folks I knows is absent . . . some of them at very moments very crucial to the plot."

Look, if Terry were here he'd have done better. Terry's not here and he's doing better.

(And I can channel Tony Robinson for a sentence or two, but, well, Fate may like a challenge now and again, but standing one end of Lancre Town at high noon and calling her out is quite another.)

John M Ford ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 07:26 PM:

Terry also wouldn't have left a superfluous "very" in dialogue.

Mary Kay ::: (view all by) ::: August 13, 2004, 08:51 PM:

Higgins - click on my name (You don't have me bookmarked? Hmmph)


jane ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2004, 02:40 AM:

OOOOOO and now I am a sorry bear not being there. But (aha!) Scotland calls. The Fringe awaits. Etc.


Charlie Stross ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2004, 03:41 PM:

The fringe? The bleeding fringe? You're one of them tourists, ain't you? [ FX: scratches under kilt then rummages in sporran for torch and/or pitch-fork. ]

I'm just mildly peeved that Noreascon is next month, rather than this month. (People who don't live in Edinburgh seem to think the festival is a good thing. I used to be one of them, more years ago than I care to remember ...)

Patrick Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2004, 05:46 PM:

Yes, I see that our Mr. Stross carefully and rigorously avoids all contact with the hated Fringe Festival. That's telling them!

Kathryn Cramer ::: (view all by) ::: August 14, 2004, 06:54 PM:

Most of my panels have "children" in the title. Hmm.

jane ::: (view all by) ::: August 15, 2004, 02:38 AM:

It must have been my lack of brogue that gave me away, Charlie!


Charlie Stross ::: (view all by) ::: August 15, 2004, 08:46 AM:

That's a fringe event? Damn, I thought it was a bookshop reading and discussion.

(Seriously, anything that happens in Edinburgh in August gets "fringe" stamped on it. And I'm mostly peeved at the way the tourists tend to gum the pavement/bars/cafes/restaurants/etcetera up; it gets unpleasantly crowded, and for every festival-goer who's polite and well-behaved there are two more who are trying to live up to the collective noun of tourist -- "a clot".)