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Robert Corbet

Male Abt 1383 - 1420  (~ 37 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Robert Corbet was born about 1383 in of Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England (son of Roger Corbet and Margaret de Erdington); died on 12 Aug 1420.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 8 Dec 1383, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 1438
    • Alternate death: 1438
    • Alternate death: 1440

    Notes:

    Justice of the peace for Shropshire 14 March 1410 to Feb 1416. Sheriff of Shropshire from 23 Nov 1419 to his death. Knight of the shire for Shropshire in May 1413 and 1419.

    Robert married Margaret before 1410. Margaret died on 26 Jan 1439. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Mary Corbet was born about 1417 in of Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died in 1471.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Roger Corbet was born in of Morton Corbet, Shropshire, England (son of Robert Corbet and Elizabeth le Strange); died about 1394.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Aft 1340, of Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 22 Sep 1395
    • Alternate death: 1396

    Roger married Margaret de Erdington. Margaret (daughter of Giles de Erdington and Elizabeth de Tolethorpe) was born in of Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England; died in Jun 1395. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Margaret de Erdington was born in of Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England (daughter of Giles de Erdington and Elizabeth de Tolethorpe); died in Jun 1395.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 14 Nov 1395, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England
    • Alternate death: Jan 1396
    • Alternate death: Jan 1397

    Notes:

    Also called Margaret Eardiston.

    Children:
    1. 1. Robert Corbet was born about 1383 in of Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died on 12 Aug 1420.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Robert Corbet was born on 25 Dec 1304 in of Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England (son of Thomas Corbet and Amice); died on 3 Dec 1375.

    Notes:

    Calendar of Papal Registers, 2:229, Ides March 1323: "To Robert Corbet, lord of the town of Morton in the Diocese of Lichtfield and Elizabeth daughter of Fulke le Strange, seneschal of the Duchy of Aquitaine, dispensation to remain in marriage which they contracted in ignorance that they were related in the 4th degree, and declaring their present and future offspring legitimate. 1 March, Avignon."

    Robert married Elizabeth le Strange before Mar 1323. Elizabeth (daughter of Fulke le Strange and Eleanor Giffard) was born in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died after 1375. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Elizabeth le Strange was born in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England (daughter of Fulke le Strange and Eleanor Giffard); died after 1375.
    Children:
    1. 2. Roger Corbet was born in of Morton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died about 1394.
    2. Thomas Corbet

  3. 6.  Giles de Erdington was born in of Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England (son of Henry de Erdington and Joan de Wolvey); died after 10 Jun 1359.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 30 Jun 1359

    Notes:

    Also called Giles de Eardiston.

    From Complete Peerage V:87-8:

    "Sir Giles de Erdington, of Erdington, Shawbury, Corfe Mullen, and Barrow-on-Soar, son and heir. On 20 June 1343 he received a pardon for having acquired without licence the manor of Shawbury from his father, and on 11 July 1345 a pardon for not having taken up knighthood by the Feast of St. Lawrence last past, pursuant to the proclamation. He was on the King's service in Flanders in the retinue of Sir John de Montgomery in 1346, but returned to England before 20 January 1346/7, owing to severe illness. On 1 December 1352 he obtained an exemption for life from being put on assizes, juries, &c., and from being appointed mayor, sheriff, escheator, &c., against his will.

    "He married Elizabeth, younger daughter and coheir of William de Tolthorpe, of Tolthorpe, Rutland, by Alice, daughter of Sir Ralph de Normanville, of Empingham in that county. He was living 10 June 1359. His widow died 26 May 1375."

    From: 'Knossington', A History of the County of Leicestershire: Volume 5: Gartree Hundred (1964), pp. 187-193:

    KNOSSINGTON

    "Knossington lies on the borders of Rutland, nine miles south-east of Melton Mowbray and four miles west of Oakham. The ancient parish consisted of 1,469 a. and belonged to a detached part of the hundred of Gartree, lying north-east of the main area. In 1930 the benefices of Knossington and Cold Overton (Framland hundred) were united, and in 1936 the new ecclesiastical parish became the present civil parish of Knossington, 3,198 a. in area.

    "In 1228 Ralph de Nowers was stated to hold the manor of Robert de Tatershall. The Nowers family remained the tenants in demesne until at least 1308, at Robert de Tatershall's death. In 1319 William and Alice Playz sold the manor to Thomas de Tolthorp and his wife Alice, and although the Nowers family continued to hold land in the parish until later in the 14th century, it seems probable that the manor passed from their ownership between 1308 and 1319. Thomas Tolthorp's daughter Elizabeth married Giles de Erdington, the owner of a manor at Barrow on Soar, and the manor descended in this family, probably until the death of Sir Thomas de Erdington in 1467."

    Giles married Elizabeth de Tolethorpe. Elizabeth (daughter of William de Tolethorpe and Alice de Normanville) was born in of Tolethorpe Manor, Little Casterton, Rutland, England; died on 26 May 1375. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Elizabeth de Tolethorpe was born in of Tolethorpe Manor, Little Casterton, Rutland, England (daughter of William de Tolethorpe and Alice de Normanville); died on 26 May 1375.

    Notes:

    "He [Giles de Erdington] married Elizabeth, younger daughter and coheir of William de Tolthorpe, of Tolthorpe, Rutland, by Alice, daughter of Sir Ralph de Normanville, of Empingham in that county. He was living 10 June 1359. His widow died 26 May 1375." [Complete Peerage V:87-8]

    Children:
    1. 3. Margaret de Erdington was born in of Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England; died in Jun 1395.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Thomas Corbet was born on 25 Dec 1281 in of Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England (son of Robert Corbet and Maud); died in 1310.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: 25 May 1284

    Thomas married Amice. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Amice

    Notes:

    This Amice must have been a daughter either of Robert le Strange (d. 1276) and Eleanor Blancminster (<1251-~1304), or of John Giffard (~1232-1299) and Maud de Clifford (d. <1286), because her son Robert Corbet's marriage to Elizabeth le Strange was granted a papal dispensation in March 1323 "to remain in marriage which they contracted in ignorance that they were related in the 4th degree." The dispensation further declares their progeny legitimate. All four of Elizabeth le Strange's grandparents are known, as are Robert Corbet's paternal grandparents; the only way Elizabeth and Robert could have been "related in the fourth degree" (i.e., first cousins) would be if Amice's parents were one of these two couples.

    Children:
    1. 4. Robert Corbet was born on 25 Dec 1304 in of Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England; died on 3 Dec 1375.

  3. 10.  Fulke le Strange was born about 1267 in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England (son of Robert le Strange and Eleanor Blancminster); died before 23 Jan 1324.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 24 Jan 1324
    • Alternate death: 1 Feb 1324
    • Alternate death: 23 Jan 1325

    Notes:

    Seneschal of Aquitaine, 26 May 1322. Field commander for Edwards I and II in Scotland and France. Summoned to Parliament by writ 4 Mar 1309.

    "Fulk Lestrange, 1st Lord (Baron) Strange (of Blackmere), so created by writ of summons to Parliament 4 March 1308/9; served in Edward I's and Edward II's Scottish campaigns 1298-1323; Seneschal of Aquitaine 1322; married Eleanor (predeceased her husband), daughter of John Giffard, of Brimsfield, Glos. 1st Lord (Baron) Giffard, and died by 23 Jan 1323/4." [Burke's Peerage]

    Fulke married Eleanor Giffard before 1301. Eleanor (daughter of John Giffard and Maud de Clifford) was born in 1275 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England; died before 23 Jan 1324. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Eleanor Giffard was born in 1275 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England (daughter of John Giffard and Maud de Clifford); died before 23 Jan 1324.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1325

    Notes:

    Eleanor (predeceased her husband), daughter of John Giffard, of Brimsfield, Glos. 1st Lord (Baron) Giffard. [Burke's Peerage]

    Children:
    1. 5. Elizabeth le Strange was born in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died after 1375.
    2. Maud le Strange was born in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.
    3. John le Strange was born about 1306 in Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 21 Jul 1349.

  5. 12.  Henry de Erdington was born about 1274 in of Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England (son of Henry de Erdington and Maud de Somery); died after 1340.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1342

    Notes:

    Knight of the shire for Leicestershire 1309. Knighted by Edward, Prince of Wales (future Edward II) at Westminster, 22 May 1306.

    "He was summoned to Parliament 22 Jan. 1335/6, by writ directed Henrico de Erdyngton, whereby he is held to have become Lord Erdington." [Royal Ancestry]

    Henry married Joan de Wolvey before Jun 1315. Joan (daughter of Thomas de Wolvey and Alice) was born about 1285 in of Wolvey, Warwickshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Joan de Wolvey was born about 1285 in of Wolvey, Warwickshire, England (daughter of Thomas de Wolvey and Alice).
    Children:
    1. 6. Giles de Erdington was born in of Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England; died after 10 Jun 1359.

  7. 14.  William de Tolethorpe was born before 1270 in Tolethorpe Manor, Little Casterton, Rutland, England (son of Thomas de Tolethorpe and Maud le Daneys); died after 1323.

    Notes:

    Also called Thomas de Tolthorp.

    LITTLE CASTERTON, Tolethorpe Manor,

    The subtenant of Tolethorpe at the time of the Domesday Survey (1086) was Robert who, according to Blore, was ancestor of the Tolethorpe family. His son John had a son Robert living in 1166. Robert's son Thomas de 'Tolestorp' in 1196 paid scutage due from his overlord Ralph de Somery in Rutland. He married Juliana, daughter of William de Freney, and was dealing with lands in Tolethorpe in 1220. Robert de 'Tollethorpe' his son married Alice, daughter of Robert L'Abbe, and in 1235 held a third part of a knight's fee in Rutland. In 1263 he obtained the right to a free fishery in the Gwash (Wesse) from Tolethorpe to the old bridge at Ryhall, from Hugh le Despenser. Thomas son of Robert de Tolethorpe married Maud, daughter of Brice Daneys, and held a knight's fee of Roger de Somery, in Tolethorpe in 1272, which William de Tolethorpe his son held in 1291.

    William de Tolethorpe married Alice, daughter of Ralph de Normanville of Empingham, and was holding in 1303 and 1305. He had two daughters, Maud, wife of Nicholas de Burton of Stamford, and Elizabeth, wife of Giles de Erdington, and settled the manor of Tolethorpe before 1316 on Nicholas and Maud but a little later it was reconveyed to him. He was holding the Tolethorpe fee of the Somerys in 1323, but died shortly afterwards. During the disturbed conditions of the country in the reign of Edward II, John Hakluyt, keeper of the Forest of Rutland, and his servants, were attacked at Liddington in 1318 by a great concourse of persons including William son of Robert de Tolethorpe, Robert son of John de Tolethorpe, 'mouner' and William his brother, the elder, and William his brother, the younger. In 1321 a commission was issued for their trial, but the result does not appear.

    ['Parishes: Little Casterton', A History of the County of Rutland: Volume 2 (1935), pp. 236-242.]

    William married Alice de Normanville. Alice (daughter of Ralph de Normanville) was born in of Empingham, Rutland, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Alice de Normanville was born in of Empingham, Rutland, England (daughter of Ralph de Normanville).
    Children:
    1. 7. Elizabeth de Tolethorpe was born in of Tolethorpe Manor, Little Casterton, Rutland, England; died on 26 May 1375.


Generation: 5

  1. 16.  Robert Corbet was born in of Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England (son of Richard Corbet and Petronilla); died in 1300; was buried in Alberbury, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Shropsire 1288-9.

    Robert married Maud about 1280. Maud died in 1309. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 17.  Maud died in 1309.

    Notes:

    Called "Matilda de Arundel" in Eyton's Antiquities of Shropshire (chart, v. 10, p. 183); called "Matilda filia....de Tideshill [Tideshall] vidua 35 E. 1." in the 1623 Visitation of Shropshire. If the former is correct, it is tempting to place her (as many online sources do) as a daughter of Sir John Fitz Alan and Maud de Verdun (also called Maud de Boteler), who died in 1267 and 1283 respectively, but there is no less reason to suppose she was from the unrelated Arundel family of Dorset. In fact we're unaware of any primary-source evidence for her parentage.

    Children:
    1. Joanna Corbet died before 29 Sep 1348.
    2. 8. Thomas Corbet was born on 25 Dec 1281 in of Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England; died in 1310.

  3. 20.  Robert le Strange was born in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England (son of John le Strange and Lucy de Tregoz); died about Aug 1276.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 13 Oct 1276

    Notes:

    "Robert Lestrange; acquired Chawton after death of his brother Hamon, and Wrockwardine in the latter's lifetime; married Eleanor, daughter and coheir of William de Blancminster (modern Whitechurch, Salop) and predeceased her 12 Oct 1276." [Burke's Peerage]

    Crusader about 1270, according to AR.

    Robert married Eleanor Blancminster about 1250. Eleanor (daughter of William Blancminster and Eve Fitzwarine) was born in of Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died after 1276. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 21.  Eleanor Blancminster was born in of Whitchurch, Shropshire, England (daughter of William Blancminster and Eve Fitzwarine); died after 1276.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1300
    • Alternate death: Abt 1304
    • Alternate death: 1306, Ercall Magna, Shropshire, England

    Notes:

    This family of Whitchurch in Shropshire is also called Blanchminster, Blauminster, Blancmostiers, Whitchurch, de Albo Monasterio, and "the Warennes of Whitchurch."

    Children:
    1. 10. Fulke le Strange was born about 1267 in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died before 23 Jan 1324.

  5. 22.  John Giffard was born about 1232 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England (son of Elias IV Giffard and Alice Mautravers); died on 28 May 1299; was buried on 11 Jun 1299 in Malmesbury Abbey, Wiltshire, England.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 29 May 1299, Boyton, Wiltshire, England

    Notes:

    From Complete Peerage V:639:

    Sir John Giffard, of Brimpsfield, Badgeworth, Stonehouse, Stoke Gifford, and Rockhampton, co. Gloucester, Elston, Orcheston St. George, Sherrington, Ashton, and Broughton Gifford, Wilts, son and heir of Sir Elis Giffard, of Brimpsfield, &c. (who died shortly before 2 May 1248) (c1), by his 2nd wife, Alice, sister of Sir John Mautravers, of Lytchet Matravers, Dorset (a). He was aged 16, or 16 and more, at his father's death (b1). With several other barons, he seized the Bishop of Hereford, 11 June 1263, and took him to Eardisley Castle. On 18 August following, he was among those who made a treaty with Edward, the King's son. He had just been appointed, 7 August, by the advice of the Magnates of the Council, Keeper of the castle of St. Briavel and the forest of Dean, during pleasure, and he was pardoned, 18 September following, for all trespasses committed by reason of non-observance of the Provisions of Oxford. He was appointed joint Keeper of the counties of Gloucester, Worcester, and Hereford, 24 December 1263. In 1264 he belonged to the baronial party, and in April, being in command at Kenilworth, he surprised and destroyed Warwick Castle, taking the Earl and Countess prisoners. On 14 May following he was at the battle of Lewes, where he was taken prisoner early in the day, but he had already captured William la Zuche. He was one of those prohibited, 16 February 1264/5, from taking part in the tournament at Dunstaple, and ordered to attend a Council on the morrow of Ash Wednesday [19 February] following. He changed sides together with the Earl of Gloucester and others, and was in the King's army at the battle of Evesham, 4 August 1265. In consideration of his services at this battle, he was pardoned, 9 Oct. 1265, for having adhered to Simon de Montfort at the battle of Lewes, and for all other trespasses committed up to the said 9 October. He was one of the commissioners empowered, 24 April 1274, to make a truce at the ford of Montgomery, in a month from Easter [29 April], between Llewelyn ab Gruffyd, Prince of Wales, and Humphrey de Bohun of Brecknock. On 6 November 1281 he had licence to hunt wolves, with his own hounds, throughout all the King's forests in England. He was appointed Keeper of the castle of Llandovery, co. Carmarthen, 9 April 1282, and of that of Builth, co. Brecknock, 14 October following, both during pleasure. On 18 November 1283 the King granted him, in fee, the commote of Iscennen, co. Carmarthen, to hold by the service of a knight's fee: and, on 8 February 1289/90, the castle of Dynevor in that county, for life, as a refuge for himself and his men: he was ordered to deliver this castle to Walter de Pederton, 29 July 1297. He was present at the assemblies held at Berwick in October and November 1297, to discuss the various claims to the Crown of Scotland. He was Captain of Podensac in Gascony, which town he surrendered to the French, in 1294/5. He was summoned for Military Service from 18 July 1257 to 7 May 1299, to attend the King at Shrewsbury, 28 June 1283, to attend the King at Salisbury, 26 January 1296/7, to a Military Council, 20 August 1297,and to Parliament from 24 June 1295. to 10 April 1299, by writs directed Johanni Giffard, or Gyffard, occasionally with the additionde Brimmesfeld', whereby he is held to have become Lord Giffard.

    He was affianced, at the age of 4 years, to Aubrey de Caumville (who was about the same age), but he did not marry her (b2). He married, 1stly, Maud [c2], widow of Sir William Lungespee, of Amesbury, Aldbourne, and Trowbridge, Wilts, Canford, Dorset, Bicester, Oxon; Brattleby, co., Lincoln, &c. (who died between 23 December 1256 and 3 January 1256/7], and daughter and heir of Sir Walter de Clifford, of Clifford co. Hereford, Cortham, Salop, &c., by Margaret, daughter of Llewelyn ab Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales. She, who was living 1 December 1281, died s.p.m., not long afterwards. He married, 2ndly, in 1286, Margaret, widow of Sir John de Neville, of Hallingbury, Wethersfield, Great Totham, Great Wakering and Langharn, Essex, Alphington, Devon, &c. who died shortly before 20 May 1282. He died at Boyton, Wilts, 29 May, and was buried 11 June 1299 in Malmesbury Abbey. His widow's dower was ordered to be assigned, 1 August 1299, and on 5 August she was assigned the manors of Stonehouse, Stoke Gifford, Elston, and Broughton Gifford. She died shortly before 13 December 1338.

    (c1) In 1221 this Elis stated that "Osbertus Giffard, antecessor suusqui venit ad conquestum Angl' tenuit manerium de Bimesfeld' . . . et post eum Elias flius suus . . . et post eum Elias filius illius Elieet pater suus." At least one generation is here omitted. The Elis living in 1221 was son and heir of Elis III, by Maud, daughter of Morice fitz Robert fitz Hardinge, of Berkeley: which Elis III owed 100 marks 'pro fine terre sue' in 1166 and died before Michaelmas 1190, when William le Mareschal owed 140 marks for the custody of the lands of Elis Giffard. Elis III was son and heir of Elis II (who became a monk in Gloucester Abbey), by Berta (living 1167), sister of Walter de Clifford, of Clifford and Glasbury, and daughter of Richard fitzPonce. In 1130 Elis II rendered account of 100 marks of silver for the relief of his father's lands, being son and heir of Elis I, by Ala, his wife. Before 1096 Elis I had succeeded his father Osbern Giffard, the Domesday tenant of Brimpsfield, Stoke, Rockhampton, Elston, Orcheston, etc.

    (a) John Mautravers gave the manor of Ashton and the advowson of the church of St. Peter at Codford, Wilts, to Elis Giffard in free marriage with Alice his sister, to hold to them and their heirs of their bodies, by the service of a knight's fee.

    (b1) "Elias Giffard". He held the manor of Winterburne (now Elston), of the King in chief, as the head of his barony; the manor of Sherrington pertaining to that barony; and that of Ashton, held ofJ ohn Mautravers in free marriage. Heir [name cut away] his son aged 16 [rest cut away]. The proof of age of this heir, John Giffard, is undated and defective, but it states that he was born on the day of St. Wulstan (19 Jan).

    (b2) So the proof of age mentioned above. She was probably the Aubrey de Canville, a nun of Polesworth, who was elected Abbess in Dec 1276 or in the following month. The marriage was contracted at Arrow, co. Warwick, and she must have been a daughter of Thomas de Camville, of Arrow, and a descendant of Aubrey Marmion, Lady of Arrow, wife of William de Caumville.

    John married Maud de Clifford before 10 Mar 1271. Maud (daughter of Walter IV de Clifford and Margaret ferch Llywelyn) was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died between 1282 and 1285. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 23.  Maud de Clifford was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England (daughter of Walter IV de Clifford and Margaret ferch Llywelyn); died between 1282 and 1285.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1 Dec 1281
    • Alternate death: 1282

    Notes:

    "He [John Giffard] married, 1stly, Maud, widow of Sir William Lungespee, of Amesbury, Aldbourne, and Trowbridge, Wilts, Canford, Dorset, Bicester, Oxon; Brattleby, co., Lincoln, &c. (who died between 23 December 1256 and 3 January 1256/7), and daughter and heir of Sir Walter de Clifford, of Clifford co. Hereford, Cortham, Salop, &c., by Margaret, daughter of Llewelyn ab Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales. She, who was living 1 December 1281, died s.p.m., not long afterwards." [Complete Peerage V:639-44]

    [footnote in CP to the above:] Maud Lungespee notified the King that John Giffard had abducted her from her manor of Canford, Dorset, and taken her against her will to his castle of Brimpsfield, and there detained her. John appeared before the King, and professed himself ready to prove that he did not abduct her against her will, and offered a fine of 300 marks for the marriage already contracted, as it was said, between them, provided she made no further complaint against him. On 10 March 1270/1 the King ordained that if she were not content, the said fine should be void,and John should stand his trial at a month from Easter. And as she was too unwell to appear before the King, commissioners were sent to inquire into the truth of the matter, and to certify the King thereof. John and Maud, and her Ist husband, William Lungespee, were all descended from Richard fitz Ponce. Why John Giffard should have referred to himself as being of the race of Le Lungespee as in the proof of age mentioned above he is said to have done--is not explicable; unless, indeed, the sobriquet was derived from the family of Clifford.

    Children:
    1. Katherine Giffard was born about 1272; died after 1321.
    2. 11. Eleanor Giffard was born in 1275 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England; died before 23 Jan 1324.

  7. 24.  Henry de Erdington was born in of Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England (son of Giles de Erdington, Dean of St. Peter College); died before 26 Mar 1282.

    Notes:

    Or Herdington, Erdinton, etc.

    Henry married Maud de Somery. Maud (daughter of Roger de Somery and Nichole d'Aubigny) was born in of Dudley, Worcestershire, England; died before 1302. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 25.  Maud de Somery was born in of Dudley, Worcestershire, England (daughter of Roger de Somery and Nichole d'Aubigny); died before 1302.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 9 Jun 1302

    Children:
    1. 12. Henry de Erdington was born about 1274 in of Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England; died after 1340.

  9. 26.  Thomas de Wolvey was born in of Wolvey, Warwickshire, England (son of Robert de Leycestre and Petronilla de Flamville).

    Notes:

    Also called Thomas de Leycestre de Wolvey.

    Thomas married Alice. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  10. 27.  Alice
    Children:
    1. Alice Wolvey died after 1344.
    2. 13. Joan de Wolvey was born about 1285 in of Wolvey, Warwickshire, England.

  11. 28.  Thomas de Tolethorpe was born in of Tolethorpe Manor, Little Casterton, Rutland, England (son of Robert de Tolethorpe and Alice l'Abbe); died after 1272.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1294

    Thomas married Maud le Daneys. Maud (daughter of William le Daneys) died after 1293. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  12. 29.  Maud le Daneys (daughter of William le Daneys); died after 1293.

    Notes:

    Post to SGM, 26 Aug 2007, by Alan Grey:

    To this could be added the Maud who married Thomas de Tolethorpe (died c. 1290). She is said to have been the daughter of Brice Daneys [VCH Rutland, Vol. 2, p. 238] but I have not seen a primary source for the statement.

    The chronology of the Tolethorpe family would indicate to me that if Maud was of the Daneys family, then she was the sister, rather than daughter, of Brice. Her son William de Tolethorpe was in possession of the knight's fee in Tolethorpe in 1291 (i.e., born before 1270),and so Maud was born before (probably several years before) 1255, I suppose. For his part, Brice cannot have been born much before 1250 if he flourished from 1272, but lived until after 1318/21, especially since he was the great-grandson of a man whose brothers still flourished in the 1240s and whose children (Brice's grandfather's generation) were born in the 1230s (as per your post). Thus, Brice cannot be Maud's father, but perhaps he could be a brother.

    Children:
    1. 14. William de Tolethorpe was born before 1270 in Tolethorpe Manor, Little Casterton, Rutland, England; died after 1323.

  13. 30.  Ralph de Normanville was born in of Empingham, Rutland, England (son of Ralph de Normanville and Galiena).
    Children:
    1. 15. Alice de Normanville was born in of Empingham, Rutland, England.


Generation: 6

  1. 32.  Richard Corbet was born in 1225 in of Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England (son of Richard Corbet and Joanna Toret); died after 1247.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1255
    • Alternate death: Aft 1254

    Notes:

    Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (citation details below) says he "was Lord of Morton at the Inquest of Bradford Hundred taken in 1255." Justiciar of Shropshire.

    Richard married Petronilla. Petronilla was born in of Edgebolton, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; died after 1271. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 33.  Petronilla was born in of Edgebolton, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; died after 1271.
    Children:
    1. 16. Robert Corbet was born in of Moreton Toret, Shropshire, England; died in 1300; was buried in Alberbury, Shropshire, England.

  3. 40.  John le Strange was born about 1194 in of Knockin, Shropshire, England (son of John le Strange and Amice); died before 26 Mar 1269.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1190

    Notes:

    Constable of Montgomery Castle 1236; Sheriff of Shropshire and Staffordshire 1236; Justiciar of Chester 1240.

    "John Lestrange III, son and heir. In 1213 he attended upon the King to pay a debt on behalf of his father, and in 1214 he was serving in Poitou. In 1219 he was conducting an enquiry into forest matters at Shrewsbury. In 1225 he was directed to assist in conducting to Gloucester the fifteenth collected in Staffs and Salop. On 25 May 1231 the King granted to him and his heirs the manor of Wrockwardine. In 1232, and frequently thereafter, he was appointed to see that the truce with Llewelin was observed on both sides. In 1235 he was Constable of Montgomery. On 24 October 1236 he was appointed Sheriff of Salop and Staffs. Late in 1240 or early in 1241 he was appointed Justice of Chester. In 1248 he was about to go on pilgrimage to Pontigny. In 1249 he had a grant to himself and his heirs of a market and fair at Knockin. In March 1257/8 and again in August 1260 he was summoned to Chester, in October 1261 to London, and in January 1262/3 to Hereford and in May to Worcester, in connection with the disturbances in Wales. He is said to have married Lucy, daughter of Robert Tregoz. He died before 26 March 1269." [Complete Peerage XII-1:350-1]

    John married Lucy de Tregoz. Lucy (daughter of Robert de Tregoz and Sibyl de Ewyas) died after 1294. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 41.  Lucy de Tregoz (daughter of Robert de Tregoz and Sibyl de Ewyas); died after 1294.

    Notes:

    "He [John Lestrange] is said to have married Lucy, daughter of Robert Tregoz." [Complete Peerage XII/1:350-1]

    CP uses the "is said to have married" formulation, above. Richardson's Royal Ancestry, in the entry TREGOZ 3 (Sir Robert de Tregoz m. Juliane de Cantelowe), says "they had one son, John, Knt. [Lord Tregoz], and allegedly one daughter, Lucy (said to be wife of John le Strange, of Knockin, Shropshire." But having her be the daughter of that particular Robert de Tregoz doesn't work chronologically at all; this alleged Tregoz descent is only plausible if we make her the daughter of his father, Robert de Tregoz who m. Sibyl de Ewyas.

    (Note that AR8 shows this Lucy's parentage the same way we do.)

    Children:
    1. 20. Robert le Strange was born in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died about Aug 1276.
    2. Hawise le Strange died in 1310.
    3. Roger le Strange was born in of Ellesmere, Shropshire, England; died on 31 Jul 1311.
    4. John le Strange was born in of Knockin, Shropshire, England; died before 26 Feb 1276.

  5. 42.  William Blancminster was born in of Whitchurch, Shropshire, England (son of William Blancminster and Emma); died before 1260.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1273

    Notes:

    This family of Whitchurch in Shropshire is also called Blanchminster, Blauminster, Blancmostiers, Whitchurch, de Albo Monasterio, and "the Warennes of Whitchurch."

    William married Eve Fitzwarine. Eve (daughter of Fulk III Fitzwarine and Maud le Vavasour) died after 1281. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 43.  Eve Fitzwarine (daughter of Fulk III Fitzwarine and Maud le Vavasour); died after 1281.
    Children:
    1. 21. Eleanor Blancminster was born in of Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died after 1276.

  7. 44.  Elias IV Giffard was born about 1170 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England (son of Elias III Giffard and (Unknown wife of Elias III Giffard)); died before 2 May 1248.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1249

    Notes:

    "Ivor West stated, in June 2002, that Elis IV and his sister Bertha were the children of Elis III by an unknown wife, not by Maud." [Chris Phillips, Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage.]

    From Complete Peerage V:639:

    Sir John Giffard, of Brimpsfield, Badgeworth, Stonehouse, Stoke Gifford, and Rockhampton, co. Gloucester, Elston, Orcheston St. George, Sherrington, Ashton, and Broughton Gifford, Wilts, son and heir of Sir Elis Giffard, of Brimpsfield, &c. (who died shortly before 2 May 1248) (c), by his 2nd wife, Alice, sister of Sir John Mautravers, of Lytchet Matravers, Dorset.

    (c) In 1221 this Elis stated that "Osbertus Giffard, antecessor suusqui venit ad conquestum Angl' tenuit manerium de Bimesfeld' . . . et post eum Elias flius suus . . . et post eum Elias filius illius Elieet pater suus." At least one generation is here omitted. The Elis living in 1221 was son and heir of Elis III, by Maud, daughter of Morice fitz Robert fitz Hardinge, of Berkeley: which Elis III owed 100 marks 'pro fine terre sue' in 1166 and died before Michaelmas 1190, when William le Mareschal owed 140 marks for the custody of the lands of Elis Giffard. Elis III was son and heir of Elis II (who became a monk in Gloucester Abbey), by Berta (living 1167), sister of Walter de Clifford, of Clifford and Glasbury, and daughter of Richard fitz Ponce. In 1130 Elis II rendered account of 100 marks of silver for the relief of his father's lands, being son and heir of Elis I, by Ala, his wife. Before 1096 Elis I had succeeded his father Osbern Giffard, the Domesday tenant of Brimpsfield, Stoke, Rockhampton, Elston, Orcheston, etc.

    Elias married Alice Mautravers before 1231. Alice (daughter of John Mautravers and Hawise) was born in of Lytchett Mautravers, Dorset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 45.  Alice Mautravers was born in of Lytchett Mautravers, Dorset, England (daughter of John Mautravers and Hawise).

    Notes:

    From Complete Peerage V:640:

    Sir John Giffard, of Brimpsfield, Badgeworth, Stonehouse, Stoke Gifford, and Rockhampton, co. Gloucester, Elston, Orcheston St. George, Sherrington, Ashton, and Broughton Gifford, Wilts, son and heir of Sir Elis Giffard, of Brimpsfield, &c. (who died shortly before 2 May 1248), by his 2nd wife, Alice, sister of Sir John Mautravers, of Lytchet Matravers, Dorset (a).

    (a) John Mautravers gave the manor of Ashton and the advowson of the church of St. Peter at Codford, Wilts, to Elis Giffard in free marriage with Alice his sister, to hold to them and their heirs of their bodies, by the service of a knight's fee.

    Children:
    1. 22. John Giffard was born about 1232 in of Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England; died on 28 May 1299; was buried on 11 Jun 1299 in Malmesbury Abbey, Wiltshire, England.

  9. 46.  Walter IV de Clifford was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England (son of Walter III de Clifford); died before 23 Dec 1263.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Herefordshire 1215-16. Constable of Carmarthen and Cardigan castles in 1228. Fought in Ireland, 1210, and in Wales, 1257, 1258, 1260, and 1263.

    Called Walter III de Clifford by many of the sources cited here, but Peter Stewart (citation details below) says that this represents a conflation of III and IV, and that it was IV whose second wife was Margred ferch Llywellyn of Wales who was the mother of his heiress.

    Walter married Margaret ferch Llywelyn before 2 Nov 1234. Margaret (daughter of Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth and (One of the several mistresses of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth)) died in 1265. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  10. 47.  Margaret ferch Llywelyn (daughter of Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth and (One of the several mistresses of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth)); died in 1265.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1268

    Notes:

    Also known as Marared; Margred; Margaret of Wales; Margaret of North Wales.

    Notes on the parentage of Gwladus and Margaret, daughters of Llwelyn ap Fawr:

    Complete Peerage (IX: 276) and Royal Ancestry both give Gwladus as a daughter of Joan of England. Royal Ancestry gives Margaret as an illegitimate daughter of Llywelyn.

    The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography says that Joan was "probably" the mother of Gwladus and Margaret.

    In The American Genealogist 41:99 (1965), Walter Lee Sheppard notes that "DNB's account gives Joan only the son David with Helen as probable. Lloyd's History of Wales [...] includes a chart so drawn as to make the maternity of the daughters questionable, and omits Angharad altogether. Prof. Thomas Jones Pierce in his article on Joan in the Dictionary of Welsh Biography names David, but does not mention the daughters at all; but then his cited sources are ony DNB and Lloyd's History of Wales in earlier editions. The correspondence of the writer with Sir Anthony Richard Wagner, Garter Principal King of Arms, however, indicates that all these daughters, with the exception of Gwladys, have been accepted by Major Francis Jones, best known authority on Welsh pedigrees, and based on British Museum Manuscript Add. 15041, on folio 12a, which shows Joan to be mother of David, Gwenlian, Angharad, and Margaret. It is interesting to note that [Complete Peerage] 9:276, under Mortimer of Wigmore, identifies Gwaldys as Joan's daughter."

    Later in the same publication, TAG 41:22, Sheppard provides an addendum, first quoting a letter from E. D. Jones, Librarian of the National Library of Wales: "Robert Vaughan of Hengwrt, a reliable seventeenth century authority, makes Gwladys full sister to Gruffydd, therefore the daughter of Tangwystl. He makes Gwenllian, Angharad and Marred (Margaret) to be daughters of Joan. I am inclined to accept the view that Gwladys Ddu was the daughter of Tangwystl, but in the absence of contemporary records it is not wise to be too dogmatic." Sheppard then continues: "Sir Anthony Richard Wagner KCVO, Garter Principal King of Arms, in a letter to the writer dated 24 Sept. 1964, states that he would accept Margaret as Joan's daughter and, presumably, the other daughters, except Gwladys. He refers to Major Francis Jones and the previously cited British Museum Additional MS, which shows Joan to be mother of David, and points out that the chronology also fits."

    Peter C. Bartrum's Welsh Genealogies (1974-83, searchable here; use the search term "Gruffudd ap Cynan 04"), gives Tangwystl as the mother of Gwladus and Joan as the probable mother of Margaret.

    William Addams Reitwiesner's "The Children of Joan, Princess of North Wales," in The Genealogist 1:80, Spring 1980, argues that we have no certain basis for regarding Joan as the mother of any of Llywelyn's daughters.

    On 9 April 1999, Douglas Richardson posted the following to SGM: "As for the Welsh tradition that any son, legitimate or otherwise, could make a claim to succeed Llywelyn, you may recall that Llywelyn and his son, David, went out of their way to have David recognized as Llywelyn's sole heir, to the exclusion of Llywelyn's illegitimate sons. To accomplish this, they had Llywelyn's wife, Joan, legitimized. The legitimization of Joan was no small feat seeing she was surely born out of wedlock to King John's mistress. Also, they sent David to England to be recognized as Llywelyn's sole heir by the English overlord, David's own uncle, King Henry III. Interestingly, the records of this trip show that David was accompanied by none other than his sister, Gladys. Due to the nature of this trip, it seems odd that Gladys would accompany David on this trip, UNLESS she too was a legitimate child of Llywelyn and Joan. These two pieces of evidence convince me that Gladys was legitimate."

    Children:
    1. 23. Maud de Clifford was born in of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died between 1282 and 1285.

  11. 48.  Giles de Erdington, Dean of St. Peter College (son of Thomas de Erdington and Rose); died in 1268.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 10 Jan 1269

    Notes:

    From: 'Colleges: Wolverhampton, St Peter', A History of the County of Stafford: Volume 3 (1970), pp. 321-331:

    Throughout the 13th century the royal chapels were struggling to establish their exemption from episcopal jurisdiction. The church of Wolverhampton secured this privilege with less difficulty than other royal chapels of the diocese. It owed its success principally to Giles of Erdington who first appears as Dean of Wolverhampton in 1224. Erdington made his career in the royal service and became one of the most distinguished of Henry III's judges. His legal skill is evident in the agreement he negotiated with the new Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, Alexander Stavensby, immediately after the bishop's consecration in 1224. This formalized the traditional but unwritten privileges asserted earlier by Peter of Blois. It recognized the dean's right to appoint to the prebends in his church, institute his clergy, and correct them; it admitted the bishop's intervention only on neglect of correction and after an official admonition, and even then allowed him no right to procurations. On the other hand it recognized that the bishop was entitled to be received with honour, to celebrate, preach, and confirm in the church, and to hear difficult cases and appeals from the parish.

    Under the protection of this agreement Wolverhampton enjoyed its privileges unchallenged during the episcopates of Stavensby and his successors until 1260 when Bishop Meuland attempted visitation. Erdington obtained a royal prohibition and in order to defend the agreement of 1224 invoked a papal bull which Henry III had obtained in 1245, exempting royal chapels from episcopal jurisdiction. The dispute ended finally in 1292 when the bishop recognized that all seven royal chapels of his diocese were exempt from ordinary jurisdiction and directly subject to Rome, and reserved only his right to be received with honour, to preach, ordain, consecrate, and confirm in them.

    Erdington also defended the financial interests of the college. He had boundaries perambulated, transactions recorded, and property rights defended in the courts. In 1258 he obtained from the king the valuable grant of a weekly market and an annual fair to be held at Wolverhampton. He secured the goodwill of local landowners by concessions of privilege and of land and promoted good relations with the townsmen by granting his burgesses in 1263 the right to hold their burgages freely by hereditary title with the same privileges and liabilities as the burgesses of Stafford. Perhaps the last benefit the college received from Erdington was an endowment for the maintenance of a chaplain at Wolverhampton. He died probably at the end of 1268, after having held the deanery for at least 44 years.

    Children:
    1. 24. Henry de Erdington was born in of Erdington, Aston, Warwickshire, England; died before 26 Mar 1282.

  12. 50.  Roger de Somery was born before 1209 in of Dudley, Staffordshire, England (son of Ralph de Somery and Margaret le Gras); died on 26 Aug 1273.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: 1272
    • Alternate death: Bef 27 Aug 1273

    Notes:

    Fought at Evesham on the King's side, according to the CP entry on his son-in-law Ralph Basset. Earlier, according to The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, he was taken prisoner with the King at the battle of Lewes.

    Roger married Nichole d'Aubigny before 22 Nov 1232. Nichole (daughter of William d'Aubigny and Mabel of Chester) was born in of Barrow-on-Soar, Leicestershire, England; died about 1240. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  13. 51.  Nichole d'Aubigny was born in of Barrow-on-Soar, Leicestershire, England (daughter of William d'Aubigny and Mabel of Chester); died about 1240.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Bef 20 Jan 1247

    Notes:

    Also called Colette.

    Children:
    1. 25. Maud de Somery was born in of Dudley, Worcestershire, England; died before 1302.
    2. Margaret de Somery died after 18 Jun 1293.
    3. Joan de Somery died in 1282 in Knockin, Shropshire, England.

  14. 52.  Robert de Leycestre was born in of Wolvey, Warwickshire, England.

    Robert married Petronilla de Flamville. Petronilla (daughter of William de Flamville) was born in of Aston Flamville, Leicestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  15. 53.  Petronilla de Flamville was born in of Aston Flamville, Leicestershire, England (daughter of William de Flamville).
    Children:
    1. 26. Thomas de Wolvey was born in of Wolvey, Warwickshire, England.

  16. 56.  Robert de Tolethorpe was born before 1214 in Tolethorpe Manor, Little Casterton, Rutland, England (son of Thomas de Tolethorpe and Juliana de Freney); died after 1263.

    Robert married Alice l'Abbe. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  17. 57.  Alice l'Abbe (daughter of Robert l'Abbe).
    Children:
    1. 28. Thomas de Tolethorpe was born in of Tolethorpe Manor, Little Casterton, Rutland, England; died after 1272.

  18. 58.  William le Daneys (son of William le Daneys); died after 1261.

    Notes:

    From: 'Parishes: Tickencote', A History of the County of Rutland: Volume 2 (1935), pp. 275-281:

    TICKENCOTE,

    The tenant holding at all events a part of the manor of the Grimbalds was Henry, son of Richard de Tickencote, who was granted 6 bovates of land here for a fifth of a fee. Henry de Tickencote had licence to export bread in 1224. Before 1234, however, the manor had passed to William le Daneys, who, with his overlord Robert Grimbald, consented to the presentation to the church of Tickencote by the abbot of Owston (co. Leic.). William had married as his second wife Mabel, who was apparently heiress of the Tickencotes, as on the death of William in 1250 his widow Mabel had the custody of the manor until the majority of the heir, John, which occurred in 1253. John in that year had seisin of the manor, which had been in the king's hands on account of the debt owing from William de Plessetis, who had a lien on the manor from William le Daneys, saving the dower of Mabel. John le Daneys seems to have died without issue before 1263, when lands in Tickencote were settled on Mabel for life with reversion to William, son of Richard le Daneys, brother of Mabel's husband William. William, son of William son of Richard, had a son Brice le Daneys, who with Isabel his wife was holding lands in Tickencote in 1287. Brice held aquarter of a fee and Hugh de Bussey half a fee there in 1305. Before 1311, however, Brice had acquired the manor, which he settled in that year on himself and Joan, probably his second wife. Brice was knight of the shire for Rutland in 1312 and took a prominent part in the affairs of the county. In the same year he was involved in a suit against Grimbald, son of Grimbald Pauncefort, heir of Brice's cousin, Ella le Daneys, as to lands in Hildesham. Brice died before 1344, when Oger Daveys (Daneys) released to his brother Roland all claim to the manor of Tickencote and all other lands which formerly belonged to Brice in Empingham.

    Children:
    1. 29. Maud le Daneys died after 1293.

  19. 60.  Ralph de Normanville (son of Thomas de Normanville); died in 1259.

    Other Events and Attributes:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1259, On pilgrimage to Santiago, Spain

    Ralph married Galiena. Galiena died after 1259. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  20. 61.  Galiena died after 1259.
    Children:
    1. 30. Ralph de Normanville was born in of Empingham, Rutland, England.