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Robert Marmion

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  1. 1.  Robert Marmion was born in in of Pulverbatch, Shropshire, England (son of Robert Marmion and Elizabeth); died on 15 May 1218.


    "He witnessed several charters of Henry II between 1174 and 1181. He occurs as a justice of assize at Caen in 1177 and acted as a justice in the King's court or as itinerant justice in several English counties between 1184/5 and 1205. He joined the rebellious Barons against King John. Sheriff of Worcestershire 1185-1189." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    Family/Spouse: Maud de Beauchamp. Maud (daughter of William de Beauchamp and Avicia) died in 1181. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    1. Mabel Marmion died after 1199.
    2. Robert Marmion was born in in of Pulverbatch, Shropshire, England; died between 1241 and 1243.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Robert Marmion was born before 1133 (son of Robert Marmion and Milicent of Réthel); died about Oct 1181.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef Nov 1181
    • Alternate death: Abt 1185

    Robert married Elizabeth. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  2. 3.  Elizabeth


    But not "Elizabeth, da. of Gervase, s. of Hugh, Count of Rethel" as stated in CP VIII: 507.

    1. 1. Robert Marmion was born in in of Pulverbatch, Shropshire, England; died on 15 May 1218.

Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Robert Marmion was born between 1090 and 1095 in Normandy, France (son of Roger Marmion and (Unknown) de Abetot); died in 1143; was buried in Polesworth, Warwickshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1095
    • Alternate death: Abt 16 Sep 1144, Coventry, Warwickshire, England


    "Robert Marmion, son of Roger Marmion, which Roger at the time of the Lindsey Survey, circa 1115-18, held land in Lincolnshire, rendered an account of 176£ 13s. 4d. for relief on his father's lands, of which 60£ had been paid by Michaelmas 1130. He was granted by Henry I, circa 1129-33, free warren in Warwickshire as his father had it, especially at Tamworth. With his wife Milicent he granted the church of Polesworth and other property to the nuns there, and the vill of Buteyate to Bardney Abbey. In 1140 Geoffrey, Earl of Anjou, besieged and destroyed his castle of Fontenay. A prominent figure in the anarchy of Stephen's reign, he evicted the monks of Coventry and profaned their church. [...] He died in 1143 or 1144, being slain in warfare with the Earl of Chester." [Complete Peerage]

    From the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:

    Marmion took King Stephen's part in the struggle with the Empress Matilda. In 1140 he appears as castellan of Falaise, where he successfully held out against Geoffrey, count of Anjou. His own castle at Fontenoy-le-Marmion was destroyed as a reprisal. In England he was in contention with William de Beauchamp over the castle and honour of Tamworth, where he had received a grant of free warren from Henry I.

    Marmion faced a more formidable opponent, however, in Ranulf (II), earl of Chester. Here the struggle centred on the town of Coventry. Marmion was no mean figure himself militarily, being described as a warlike man, almost unequalled in his time for ferocity, adroitness, and daring, renowned for his many successes far and wide. At Coventry he expelled the monks and fortified the priory, using its stone buildings as a fortress from which to launch frequent attacks on the earl's castle. He also covered the field between the two with ditches to impede the enemy's forces. It was an act of desecration from which the chroniclers were soon able to draw a moral. The story is told in outline by Henry of Huntingdon, referred to by John of Salisbury, and given detail by the later twelfth-century chronicler, William of Newburgh. When the earl came with a considerable force to relieve the castle, Marmion's forces went out to engage him. During the action he was thrown from his horse into one of his own ditches. As he lay immobilized, with a broken thigh, he was decapitated, in full view of all, by a common soldier of the opposing army. He was apparently the only man killed in the action, 'crushed under the weight of divine judgement' (William of Newburgh, Historia rerum Anglicarum ed. R. Howlett, Rolls Series, 1884, 1.71). This occurred about 16 September 1144. Marmion was buried at Polesworth, in unconsecrated ground as an excommunicate, and was succeeded by his son Robert. His widow, Milicent, married Richard de Camville.

    Robert married Milicent of Réthel. Milicent (daughter of Gervase de Réthel, Archdeacon of Reims and Elizabeth of Namur) was born about 1110. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  2. 5.  Milicent of Réthel was born about 1110 (daughter of Gervase de Réthel, Archdeacon of Reims and Elizabeth of Namur).

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Aft 1115

    1. 2. Robert Marmion was born before 1133; died about Oct 1181.

Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Roger Marmion was born in in of Lincolnshire, England (son of Robert Marmion and Hadeguisa); died about 1129.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England
    • Alternate death: Abt 1130


    This Roger Marmion's existence (and fatherhood of the Robert Marmion who d. abt. 1143) is confirmed by Complete Peerage, but CP says only that he was "possibly" son of Robert who "d. in or before 1106" and was married to a Hawise.

    Roger married (Unknown) de Abetot. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  2. 9.  (Unknown) de Abetot (daughter of Urse d'Abetot and Alice).
    1. 4. Robert Marmion was born between 1090 and 1095 in Normandy, France; died in 1143; was buried in Polesworth, Warwickshire, England.

  3. 10.  Gervase de Réthel, Archdeacon of Reims (son of Hugh de Réthel and Melisende de Montlhery); died in 1124.


    "Resigned [as archdeacon] on the death of his father and succeeded him as count of Rethel." [Ancestral Roots]

    Gervase married Elizabeth of Namur. Elizabeth (daughter of Godfrey of Namur and Sibylle de Château Porcéan) died after 1141. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  4. 11.  Elizabeth of Namur (daughter of Godfrey of Namur and Sibylle de Château Porcéan); died after 1141.


    Or Isabell.

    1. 5. Milicent of Réthel was born about 1110.