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Robert Marmion

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  1. 1.  Robert Marmion was born , of Pulverbatch, Shropshire, England (son of Robert Marmion and Maud de Beauchamp); died Between 1241 and 1243.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Abt 1242


    "His interests appear to have lain principally in Normandy, having granted all of his English lands to the custody of the Bishop of Wincester for a period of 7 years in 1233." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    Robert — Juliana de Vassy. [Group Sheet]

    1. Philip Marmion was born Abt 1219, of Pulverbatch, Shropshire, England; died Bef 5 Dec 1291.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Robert Marmion was born , of Pulverbatch, Shropshire, England (son of Robert Marmion and Elizabeth); died 15 May 1218.


    "He witnessed several charters of Henry II between 1174 and 1181. He occurs as a justice of assize at Caen in 1177 and acted as a justice in the King's court or as itinerant justice in several English counties between 1184/5 and 1205. He joined the rebellious Barons against King John. Sheriff of Worcestershire 1185-1189." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    Robert — Maud de Beauchamp. Maud (daughter of William de Beauchamp and Avicia) died 1181. [Group Sheet]

  2. 3.  Maud de Beauchamp (daughter of William de Beauchamp and Avicia); died 1181.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1180

    1. Mabel Marmion died Aft 1199.
    2. 1. Robert Marmion was born , of Pulverbatch, Shropshire, England; died Between 1241 and 1243.

Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Robert Marmion was born Bef 1133 (son of Robert Marmion and Milicent of Réthel); died Abt Oct 1181.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef Nov 1181
    • Alternate death: Abt 1185

    Robert — Elizabeth. [Group Sheet]

  2. 5.  Elizabeth


    But not "Elizabeth, da. of Gervase, s. of Hugh, Count of Rethel" as stated in CP VIII: 507.

    1. 2. Robert Marmion was born , of Pulverbatch, Shropshire, England; died 15 May 1218.

  3. 6.  William de Beauchamp was born , of Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England (son of Walter de Beauchamp and Emmeline d'Abetot); died 1170.


    Sheriff of Worcester from 1114 until his death.

    William — Avicia. Avicia died Aft 1170. [Group Sheet]

  4. 7.  Avicia died Aft 1170.
    1. William de Beauchamp was born , of Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England; died 1197, Normandy.
    2. 3. Maud de Beauchamp died 1181.

Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Robert Marmion was born Between 1090 and 1095, Normandy, France (son of Roger Marmion and (Unknown) de Abetot); died 1143; was buried , Polesworth, Warwickshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1095
    • Alternate death: Abt 16 Sep 1144, Coventry, Warwickshire, England


    "Robert Marmion, son of Roger Marmion, which Roger at the time of the Lindsey Survey, circa 1115-18, held land in Lincolnshire, rendered an account of 176£ 13s. 4d. for relief on his father's lands, of which 60£ had been paid by Michaelmas 1130. He was granted by Henry I, circa 1129-33, free warren in Warwickshire as his father had it, especially at Tamworth. With his wife Milicent he granted the church of Polesworth and other property to the nuns there, and the vill of Buteyate to Bardney Abbey. In 1140 Geoffrey, Earl of Anjou, besieged and destroyed his castle of Fontenay. A prominent figure in the anarchy of Stephen's reign, he evicted the monks of Coventry and profaned their church. [...] He died in 1143 or 1144, being slain in warfare with the Earl of Chester." [Complete Peerage]

    From the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:

    Marmion took King Stephen's part in the struggle with the Empress Matilda. In 1140 he appears as castellan of Falaise, where he successfully held out against Geoffrey, count of Anjou. His own castle at Fontenoy-le-Marmion was destroyed as a reprisal. In England he was in contention with William de Beauchamp over the castle and honour of Tamworth, where he had received a grant of free warren from Henry I.

    Marmion faced a more formidable opponent, however, in Ranulf (II), earl of Chester. Here the struggle centred on the town of Coventry. Marmion was no mean figure himself militarily, being described as a warlike man, almost unequalled in his time for ferocity, adroitness, and daring, renowned for his many successes far and wide. At Coventry he expelled the monks and fortified the priory, using its stone buildings as a fortress from which to launch frequent attacks on the earl's castle. He also covered the field between the two with ditches to impede the enemy's forces. It was an act of desecration from which the chroniclers were soon able to draw a moral. The story is told in outline by Henry of Huntingdon, referred to by John of Salisbury, and given detail by the later twelfth-century chronicler, William of Newburgh. When the earl came with a considerable force to relieve the castle, Marmion's forces went out to engage him. During the action he was thrown from his horse into one of his own ditches. As he lay immobilized, with a broken thigh, he was decapitated, in full view of all, by a common soldier of the opposing army. He was apparently the only man killed in the action, 'crushed under the weight of divine judgement' (William of Newburgh, Historia rerum Anglicarum, ed. R. Howlett, Rolls Series, 1884, 1.71). This occurred about 16 September 1144. Marmion was buried at Polesworth, in unconsecrated ground as an excommunicate, and was succeeded by his son Robert. His widow, Milicent, married Richard de Camville.

    Robert — Milicent of Réthel. Milicent (daughter of Gervase de Réthel, Archdeacon of Reims and Elizabeth of Namur) was born Abt 1110. [Group Sheet]

  2. 9.  Milicent of Réthel was born Abt 1110 (daughter of Gervase de Réthel, Archdeacon of Reims and Elizabeth of Namur).

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Aft 1115

    1. 4. Robert Marmion was born Bef 1133; died Abt Oct 1181.

  3. 12.  Walter de Beauchamp was born , of Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England; died 1131.


    Sheriff of Worcestershire from sometime in the 1110s to 1130. This Walter de Beauchamp, whose origins are unknown, inherited his father-in-law Urse d'Abetot's hereditary shrievalty and most of his lands when Roger d'Abetot, Urse's son, forfeited his lands and offices upon being exiled by Henry I, allegedly for having ordered the murder of a royal official.

    Walter — Emmeline d'Abetot. [Group Sheet]

  4. 13.  Emmeline d'Abetot (daughter of Urse d'Abetot and Alice).


    John Watson, soc.genealogy.medieval, 5 June 2017:

    William de Beauchamp (died 1170) confirmed Walter his father's grant of land and tithes to Worcester Cathedral priory, including a virgate of land held by Alfred, chaplain of Urse d'Abetot, his grandfather.

    William's mother was a daughter of Urse d'Abetot, but I have not seen any contemporary evidence that her name was Emmeline. Dugdale identified her from a register of the dean and chapter of Worcester which is now lost.

    "Willelmus de Bello campo omnibus ministris suis et ballivis de Wirecestre scira salutem, Sciatis me concessise et confirmasse donationem illam, quam pater meus Walterus fecit Priori et Monachis de Wirecestria de una virgata terrae quam Elfredus capellanus Ursonis de Abbetot avi mei tenuit. Et volo, ut teneant eam liberam et quietam de geldis et omnibus secularibus exactionibus, sicut elemosinam patris mei et matris meae. T. Isnardo, Rogero de Lenz &c." William Hale Hale, Registrum sive Liber Irrotularius et Consuetudinarius Prioratus Beatae Mariae Wigorniensis (London, 1865), 92a.

    1. 6. William de Beauchamp was born , of Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England; died 1170.