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Idoine de Clifford

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  1. 1.  Idoine de Clifford was born , of Appleby, Westmorland, England (daughter of Robert de Clifford and Maud de Clare); died 24 Aug 1365; was buried , Beverley Minster, Yorkshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1303, Clifford Castle, Herefordshire, England

    Notes:

    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:11:50 -0800 (PST)
    Subject: Re: Looking for primary source documents on Idonia [Imania] de Clifford
    Reply-To: Douglas Richardson

    Dear Steve ~

    The correct name of Henry de Percy's wife is Idoine de Clifford. "Idonia" or "Idonea" are the Latin forms of her name and should be avoided.

    The parentage of Idoine de Clifford is hardly elusive as you imagine. There are no less than five separate visitations/medieval sources which name Idoine, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, as a Clifford, or the daughter of Lord Clifford:

    1. Archaeologia Aeliana 3 (1844): 40 (Chronicles of Alnwick Abbey: "Iste Henricus disponsavit idoneam filiam Domini de Clyfford et genuit ex ea Anno Domini 1320 Henricum quartum et tertium Dominum de Alnewyk et alios plures filios et filias inter quos erat Thomas qui postea fuit Episcopus Norwicens ...").

    2. Atkinson, Cartularium Abbathiæ de Whiteby 2 (Surtees Soc. 72) (1881): 690-696 (Percy ped.: "The fourth Henry Lord Percy ... gat on Idonea Clyfford Henry, William, Richard, Maude, Alianour Fitzwater, Roger, and Margarett that was maried to the Erle of Angus Sonne and his heire.").

    3. Flower, Vis. of Yorkshire 1563-4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 241-244 (Percy ped.: "Henry 4 Lord Percy. = Ida doughter of the Lord Clyfford.").

    This item is available online at the following weblink:

    books.google.com/books?id=pjMEAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA242

    4. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 3 (Surtees Soc. 144) (1930): 18-20 (Percy ped.: "Henricus Percy = Idonea Clifforde").

    This item is available online at the following weblink:

    www.uiowa.edu/~c030149a/northern/surtees144text.pdf

    5. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 4 (Surtees Soc. 146) (1932): 17-24 (Lassels ped.: "Idonæ [Clifford] mar: to Henry lord Percy").

    This item is available online at the following weblink:

    www.uiowa.edu/~c030149a/northern/surtees146text.pdf

    Given that we know that Sir Henry Percy was born in 1300 or 1301, and given that Henry's son and heir, also named Henry, was born about
    1322-5, the birth of Idoine de Clifford would necessarily have to fall about 1300-1310. Given the chronology, Idoine de Clifford can be placed as a daughter of Robert de Clifford (died 1314), 1st Lord Clifford, and his wife, Maud de Clare, which Robert and Maud were married in 1295. Idoine de Clifford was surely named for her father's maternal aunt, Idoine de Vipont (died 1333), wife of Roger de Leybourne, Knt., and John de Cromwell, Knt., Lord Cromwell.

    For interesting references to Idoine, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, see the following weblinks:

    books.google.com/books?id=1MUwhOPhfKcC&pg=PA116&dq=Idoine+Percy

    books.google.com/books?lr=&id=8AMhAAAAMAAJ&dq=Idoine+Percy&q=Idoine&pgis=1#search_anchor

    books.google.com/books?id=RzUdAAAAIAAJ&q=Idoine+Percy&dq=Idoine+Percy&lr=&pgis=1

    books.google.com/books?id=cu8i2yausLcC&pg=PA124&dq=Idoine+Percy&lr=

    The tomb at Beverley Minster, Yorkshire which is now attributed to Idoine de Clifford, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, bears shields with various coats of arms, among them Clifford.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:15:21 AM UTC-7, The Hoorn wrote:

    So far, I have been unsuccessful in locating any primary or contemporaneous records, documenting the parentage of Idonia [Imania] de Clifford, as the daughter of Lord Robert Clifford (killed in battle Bannockburn 24 Jun 1314) and Matilda de Clare. Idonia was also the wife of Sir Henry Percy (1301-1352).

    I would sincerely welcome any assistance.

    Thanks!

    Idoine married Henry de Percy Abt 1318. Henry (son of Henry de Percy and Eleanor de Arundel) was born 1299; died 26 Feb 1352, Warkworth, Northumberland, England; was buried , Alnwick, Northumberland, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Isabel Percy died Between 13 Sep 1349 and 25 May 1368.
    2. Eleanor de Percy died Bef 18 Oct 1361; was buried , Dunmow Priory, Little Dunmow, Essex, England.
    3. Henry de Percy was born Between 1322 and 1325, of Alnwick, Northumberland, England; died Abt 18 May 1368, Warkworth, Northumberland, England; was buried , Alnwick Abbey, Northumberland, England.
    4. Maud Percy was born Abt 1345, Alnwick, Northumberland, England; died Bef 18 Feb 1379; was buried , Durham Cathedral, Durham, Durham, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Robert de Clifford was born Abt 1 Apr 1274 (son of Roger de Clifford and Isabel de Vipont); died 24 Jun 1314, Bannockburn, Stirlingshire, Scotland; was buried , Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 14 Apr 1274
    • Alternate birth: Abt 5 Apr 1276, of Appleby, Westmorland, England

    Notes:

    Served in Edward I's wars in Scotland. On the death of his mother, he succeeded to the hereditary shrievalty of Westmorland. Justice in Eyre North of Trent 1297-1307. Governor of Nottingham Castle, July 1298. Summoned to Parliament 29 Dec 1299 to 26 Nov 1313 by writs directed Roberto de Clifford. Signed the 1301 Barons' Letter to Pope Boniface VIII as Robertus de Clifford Castellanus de Appelby. By Edward II he was made, for a few months in 1308, Marshal of England; Justice South of Trent 1307-8; Warden of the Scottish Marches 1308. Pardoned 16 Oct 1313 for participation in the death of Piers Gaveston. Killed at the Battle of Bannockburn.

    Robert married Maud de Clare 13 Nov 1295. Maud (daughter of Thomas de Clare and Juliane fitz Maurice) died 1 Feb 1325. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Maud de Clare (daughter of Thomas de Clare and Juliane fitz Maurice); died 1 Feb 1325.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Between 4 Mar 1327 and 24 May 1327

    Children:
    1. 1. Idoine de Clifford was born , of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died 24 Aug 1365; was buried , Beverley Minster, Yorkshire, England.
    2. Margaret de Clifford died 8 Aug 1382.
    3. Robert de Clifford was born 5 Nov 1305, of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died 20 May 1344; was buried , Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Roger de Clifford was born Abt 1242, of Appleby, Westmorland, England (son of Roger de Clifford and Maud); died 6 Nov 1282, Moel-y-Don, Wales; was buried , Llanfaes Friary, Beaumaris, Gwynedd, Wales.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1243
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1248, Herefordshire, England

    Notes:

    Justice of the Forest South of Trent 1270-81. Justiciar of Wales.

    Drowned while crossing a bridge of boats near the Menai Straits in Wales.

    Roger married Isabel de Vipont Aft 28 Jun 1265. Isabel (daughter of Robert de Vipont and Isabel fitz John) was born Abt 1248, of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died 1291; was buried , Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England. [Group Sheet]


  2. 5.  Isabel de Vipont was born Abt 1248, of Appleby, Westmorland, England (daughter of Robert de Vipont and Isabel fitz John); died 1291; was buried , Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1251
    • Alternate birth: 1254
    • Alternate death: Bef 14 May 1292
    • Alternate death: 14 May 1292

    Children:
    1. 2. Robert de Clifford was born Abt 1 Apr 1274; died 24 Jun 1314, Bannockburn, Stirlingshire, Scotland; was buried , Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England.

  3. 6.  Thomas de Clare was born Between 1243 and 1248 (son of Richard de Clare and Maud de Lacy); died 29 Aug 1287, Ireland.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Between 1245 and 1246, of Thomond in Connacht, Clare, Ireland
    • Alternate birth: Between 1245 and 1246
    • Alternate death: Feb 1288

    Notes:

    Constable of Colchester Castle; Steward of the Forest of Essex; King's Lieutenant in Gascony; Governor of London; Warden of the Forest of Dean; Constable of St. Briavel's Castle.

    Studied at Oxford 1257-9.

    "He joined his brother, Gilbert, against King Henry III and was knighted by Simon de Montfort, Earl of Leicester, before the Battle of Lewes 14 May 1264. He subsequently deserted the baronial cause with his brother, Earl Gilbert. In May 1265 Thomas arranged the gift of a speedy horse to Prince Edward, by means of which Prince Edward escaped from Simon de Montfort at Hereford. Thomas fought for the king at the Battle of Evesham 4 August 1265. In 1267 he took the cross at St. Paul's, London, being moved by the preaching of the papal legate, Ottobuono. [...] He went on crusade to the Holy Land with Prince Edward in 1271, and returned in 1272." [Royal Ancestry]

    This Thomas de Clare was identified in early volumes of the Complete Peerage as a son of Sir Richard de Clare d. 1262, and then removed in volume 14 in the articles on Badlesmere and Clare. Despite this, it appears to be correct; Chris Phillips lays out the details here.

    Thomas married Juliane fitz Maurice Bef 18 Feb 1275. Juliane (daughter of Maurice fitz Maurice and Maud de Prendergast) was born , of Offaly, Ireland; died Bef 24 Sep 1300. [Group Sheet]


  4. 7.  Juliane fitz Maurice was born , of Offaly, Ireland (daughter of Maurice fitz Maurice and Maud de Prendergast); died Bef 24 Sep 1300.
    Children:
    1. 3. Maud de Clare died 1 Feb 1325.
    2. Margaret de Clare was born Between 1286 and 1287; died 1333.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Roger de Clifford was born Abt 1221, of Tenbury, Worcestershire, England (son of Roger de Clifford and Sibyl de Ewyas); died 1285, France; was buried , Dore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1226
    • Alternate death: Bef 3 Apr 1286

    Notes:

    Constable of Hereford Castle 1263; Sheriff of Gloucestershire 1263; Sheriff of Worcestershire and Herefordshire; Justiciar of Wales; Justice of the Forest south of Trent 1265-70.

    Took Simon de Montfort the younger prisoner at the Siege of Nottingham. Taken prisoner at the Battle of Lewes, 14 May 1264. Fought for the king at the Battle of Evesham, 4 Aug 1265. In 1270, accompanied Prince Edward on crusade to the Holy Land.

    Roger married Maud Bef 1242. Maud died Bef 1273. [Group Sheet]


  2. 9.  Maud died Bef 1273.
    Children:
    1. 4. Roger de Clifford was born Abt 1242, of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died 6 Nov 1282, Moel-y-Don, Wales; was buried , Llanfaes Friary, Beaumaris, Gwynedd, Wales.

  3. 10.  Robert de Vipont was born Abt 1234, of Appleby, Westmorland, England (son of John de Vipont and Sybil de Ferrers); died Bef 7 Jun 1264.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1235
    • Alternate birth: 1239
    • Alternate death: Abt 7 Jun 1264
    • Alternate death: Bef 5 Jul 1264

    Notes:

    Heriditary sheriff of Westmorland. Died of wounds sustained at the battle of Lewes.

    Robert married Isabel fitz John Aft 19 Nov 1242. [Group Sheet]


  4. 11.  Isabel fitz John (daughter of John fitz Geoffrey and Isabel le Bigod).
    Children:
    1. 5. Isabel de Vipont was born Abt 1248, of Appleby, Westmorland, England; died 1291; was buried , Shap Abbey, Westmorland, England.

  5. 12.  Richard de Clare was born 4 Aug 1222, of Clare, Suffolk, England (son of Gilbert de Clare and Isabel Marshal); died Jul 1262, Ashenfield, Waltham, Kent, England; was buried , Tewkesbury Abbey, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 15 Jul 1262, Ashenfield, Waltham, Kent, England

    Notes:

    Earl of Gloucester; Earl of Hertford; High Marshal and Chief Butler to the Archbishop of Canterbury; Privy Councillor 1255, 1258; Warden of the Isle of Portland, Weymouth, and Wyke, 1257.

    From the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:

    Richard de Clare was a minor at the time of his father's death, and heir to one of the greatest collections of estates and lordships in all of England and Wales. His wardship and marriage were thus matters of the keenest interest to the politically powerful and ambitious of the day. The justiciar Hubert de Burgh, using his position in the government of Henry III, managed to have custody of Richard assigned to himself. On Hubert's fall from power in 1232, the king transferred custody of both Richard and his lands to the new royal favourites, Peter des Roches, bishop of Winchester, and his nephew Peter des Rivaux. Hubert de Burgh's wife, in an apparent effort to rescue the family fortunes, secretly married Richard de Clare to her daughter Margaret; but the marriage was apparently never consummated, and was in any event mooted by Margaret's death in 1237. In the meantime both Peter des Roches and Peter des Rivaux had themselves fallen from power in 1234, and thereafter King Henry kept the wardship in his own hands, although allowing custody of at least some of the Clare lands to be secured by Richard de Clare's uncle Gilbert Marshal, earl of Pembroke. During this time the king began searching for a suitable marriage. A proposed arrangement with the great French comital family, the Lusignans, fell through, and in 1238 Richard de Clare was married to Maud, daughter of John de Lacy, earl of Lincoln. The prime mover in the marriage negotiations seems to have been the king's brother, Richard of Cornwall, who was Richard de Clare's stepfather, having married the widowed Isabel Marshal in 1231. Notwithstanding his marriage Clare remained the ward of the king until 1243, when he came of age and received both official seisin of his inheritance and formal dubbing to knighthood.

    The complexities, intricacies, and rivalries involved in the story of Richard de Clare's wardship are an excellent case study of the stakes and resources at issue when contemplating the lives of the upper aristocracy in the thirteenth century. A connection to Richard de Clare was a prize well worth pursuing at full tilt. His inheritance was vast. [...] Richard de Clare was, by every criterion--annual income (close to £4000), knight's fees (nearly 500), and both the sheer number of and the strategic location of his estates and lordships--easily the richest and potentially the most powerful baron, next to the members of the immediate royal family, in the British Isles (excluding Scotland) as a whole.

    From Wikipedia:

    He joined in the Barons' letter to the Pope in 1246 against the exactions of the Curia in England. He was among those in opposition to the King's half-brothers, who in 1247 visited England, where they were very unpopular, but afterwards he was reconciled to them.

    In August 1252/3 the King crossed over to Gascony with his army, and to his great indignation the Earl refused to accompany him and went to Ireland instead. In August 1255 he and John Maunsel were sent to Edinburgh by the King to find out the truth regarding reports which had reached the King that his son-in-law, Alexander III, King of Scotland, was being coerced by Robert de Roos and John Balliol. If possible, they were to bring the young King and Queen to him. The Earl and his companion, pretending to be two of Roos's knights, obtained entry to Edinburgh Castle, and gradually introduced their attendants, so that they had a force sufficient for their defense. They gained access to the Scottish Queen, who made her complaints to them that she and her husband had been kept apart. They threatened Roos with dire punishments, so that he promised to go to the King.

    Meanwhile the Scottish magnates, indignant at their Castle of Edinburgh's being in English hands, proposed to besiege it, but they desisted when they found they would be besieging their King and Queen. The King of Scotland apparently traveled South with the Earl, for on 24 September they were with King Henry III at Newminster, Northumberland."

    *****

    In July 1258 Richard de Clare and his brother William both fell ill. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography describes contemporary reports that this was due to an attempted poisoning, "supposedly instigated by King Henry's uncle, William de Valence, earl of Pembroke, in retaliation for Clare's support of the baronial reform movement; and Valence's purported agent in the plot, Clare's seneschal, Walter de Scoteny, was tried and hanged." William died, but Richard survived with the loss of his hair and nails. In 1259 Richard was appointed chief ambassador to the Duke of Brittany, presumably in hopes of frightening the duke by sending a hairless, nailless creature to his court. Three years later, Richard died at Ashenfield, Waltham, Kent, on the 15th, the 16th, or the 22nd of July 1262. It was again bruited about that he had been poisoned, this time by the Queen's uncle Peter of Savoy, but the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, noting that "the annals of Tewkesbury Abbey are the single most valuable literary source for the reconstruction of [de Clare] family history for this period", points out that "the silence of the Tewkesbury account on this point strongly indicates that such rumours were unfounded."

    In a perfectly medieval series of postmortem events, Richard de Clare's body was borne to the Cathedral Church of Christ at Canterbury, where his entrails were buried before the altar of St. Edward the Confessor; it was then taken to the Collegiate Church of Tonbridge, Kent, where his heart was buried; finally, what remained of his body was taken to Tewkesbury Abbey in Gloucestershire where it was buried in the choir at his father's right hand.

    Richard married Maud de Lacy Abt 25 Jan 1238. Maud (daughter of John de Lacy and Margaret de Quincy) died 1288-1289. [Group Sheet]


  6. 13.  Maud de Lacy (daughter of John de Lacy and Margaret de Quincy); died 1288-1289.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1288
    • Alternate death: Bef 10 Mar 1289

    Children:
    1. 6. Thomas de Clare was born Between 1243 and 1248; died 29 Aug 1287, Ireland.
    2. Gilbert de Clare was born 2 Sep 1243, Christchurch, Hampshire, England; died 7 Dec 1295, Monmouth Castle, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried , Tewkesbury Abbey, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England.
    3. Rose de Clare was born 17 Aug 1252; died Aft 1315; was buried , Church of the Friars Preachers, Pontefract, Yorkshire, England.

  7. 14.  Maurice fitz Maurice was born Abt 1238 (son of Maurice fitz Gerald and Juliane); died Bef 2 Sep 1277.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1286

    Notes:

    Justiciar of Ireland, 1272-3. Also called Maurice fitz Maurice fitz Gerald. Not to be confused with Maurice fitz Gerald (d. 1268) who was the son of his brother Gerald fitz Maurice (d. 1243).

    Maurice married Maud de Prendergast Bef 28 Oct 1259. Maud (daughter of Gerald de Prendergast and (Unknown) de Burgh) was born Abt 1242; died Bef 1276. [Group Sheet]


  8. 15.  Maud de Prendergast was born Abt 1242 (daughter of Gerald de Prendergast and (Unknown) de Burgh); died Bef 1276.
    Children:
    1. 7. Juliane fitz Maurice was born , of Offaly, Ireland; died Bef 24 Sep 1300.