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Philip Tilney

Male Abt 1400 - 1453  (~ 53 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Philip Tilney was born about 1400 (son of Frederick Tilney and Margaret Rochford); died on 31 Oct 1453; was buried in Lincoln Cathedral, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Lincolnshire, 1437-38. Alderman of the Corpus Christi Guild of Boston.

    Philip married Isabel Thorpe before 1 May 1417. Isabel (daughter of Edmund Thorpe, Mayor of Bordeaux and Joan Northwood) died on 10 Nov 1436. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Frederick Tilney was born about 1420 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 11 Nov 1446; was buried in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Frederick Tilney was born about 1380 (son of Philip Tilney and Grace Roos); died between 1406 and 1412.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef May 1421

    Frederick married Margaret Rochford before 29 Sep 1394. Margaret (daughter of John Rochford, Mayor of Boston, Lincolnshire and Alice) was born about 1380; died after 10 Feb 1443. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Margaret Rochford was born about 1380 (daughter of John Rochford, Mayor of Boston, Lincolnshire and Alice); died after 10 Feb 1443.
    Children:
    1. 1. Philip Tilney was born about 1400; died on 31 Oct 1453; was buried in Lincoln Cathedral, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Philip Tilney was born between 1345 and 1355 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England (son of Frederick Tilney and Margery); died between 4 Apr 1394 and Feb 1398.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire, 1 Nov 1383. Sheriff of Lincolnshire 18 Nov 1386. Knight of the shire for Lincolnshire 1385, 1388, and 1390. Steward to Bishop Fordham of Ely.

    Alderman of the guild of Corpus Christi in Boston, 1387 and 1388. License to form the fraternity of St. Mary in Boston, together with Sir William de Spaigne, Sep 1392.

    Philip married Grace Roos between 1378 and 1380. Grace (daughter of John Roos) died after 1414. [Group Sheet]


  2. 5.  Grace Roos (daughter of John Roos); died after 1414.
    Children:
    1. 2. Frederick Tilney was born about 1380; died between 1406 and 1412.

  3. 6.  John Rochford, Mayor of Boston, Lincolnshire was born about 1352 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England (son of Saier de Rochford and Joan Hillary); died between 20 Oct 1410 and 14 Dec 1410.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 20 Oct 1410
    • Alternate death: 13 Dec 1410

    Notes:

    Mayor of Boston, Lincolnshire, 26 Jul 1386. Sheriff of Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1391 to 18 Oct 1392, and 4 Nov 1409 to his death. Knight of the shire for Lincolnshire 1390, 1394, 1397, 1399, and for Cambridgeshire 1407. Steward of the Duchy of Lancaster honour of Bolingbroke, 1399-1407. Constable of the Bishop of Ely's castle of Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, 1401-10.

    Alderman of the Corpus Christi guild in Boston from 1381 to 1386, 1391 to 1394, 1397 to 1399, 1409.

    "Rochford also compiled historical digests of two popular historical works and made an index of a third. His extracts from a copy of the Polychronicon of Ranulf Higden, with a continuation to 1410, were once in the now burnt British Library manuscript, MS Cotton Vitellius D.xii, and were presumably made in 1410. His extracts from the Antiquitates Judaicae of Josephus were made in 1406–7, and survive in Oxford, All Souls College, MS 37, together with his index of the Westminster Flores historiarum up to 1307. This volume, which also contains Nigel of Canterbury's Speculum stultorum and Hugh of St Victor's De sacramentis legis naturalis, may have belonged to him." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

    Not to be confused with the John Rochford who was the son of his father's first wife. The claim in his entry in the History of Parliament that he cannot have been a son of Joan Hillary appears, from evidence presented by John Watson, to be based on a confusion between these two John Rochfords.

    John married Alice between 1375 and 1376. Alice died in 1409. [Group Sheet]


  4. 7.  Alice died in 1409.

    Notes:

    Royal Ancestry shows her as a daughter of Hugh de Hastings and Margaret de Everingham, but a footnote points out both a lack of positive proof for this and the existence of evidence suggesting she may have been a member of the Fastolf family of Norfolk instead. The entries for John Rochford in the History of Parliament and the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography shed no light on either possibility for Alice's parentage, noting only that she appears to have been a cousin of one Richard Newton of Boston, Lincolnshire.

    Children:
    1. 3. Margaret Rochford was born about 1380; died after 10 Feb 1443.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Frederick Tilney was born between 1320 and 1330 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died after 1378.

    Notes:

    Entertainingly, Pishey Thompson's 1820/1856 history of Boston, Lincolnshire traces this Frederick Tilney's ancestry back to a Norman great-great-great grandfather at the time of Edward the Confessor named...wait for it...Frodo. More believable is the research of SGM regular John Watson reproduced below.

    John Watson (citation details below):

    His forebears probably originated in the village of Tilney, Norfolk. He may have been the son of a John de Tilney who occurs in the subsidy rolls for Boston in 1333 (Thompson, 374). In 1342, a John Tilney is mentioned in the Close Rolls as a collector of wool in Lincoln (CCR, Ed. 3, vi, 537), some of those in the same record were merchants of Boston. Frederick de Tilney of Boston, merchant, was a member of the Corpus Christi Guild of Boston in 1349, (Thompson, 374) which I think would place his birth date some time between 1320 and 1330. The first official record I can find of him is in January 1359, when William de Spayne and Frederick de Tylneye were elected as collectors of customs in the town and port of Boston (CPR, Ed. 3, xi, 320). In July 1360 they delivered 240 pounds into the exchequer (CCR, Ed. 3, xi, 45) and in August 1360 they were requested to purvey 4,000 stokfissh, called 'winterfissh' to Southampton for the royal household (CPR, Ed. 3, xi, 453). In February 1363, Frederick was appointed collector of customs in Boston and places along the coast between Grimsby, Lincolnshire and Blakeney, Nofolk (CFR, vii, 252). In 1369, the staple of Lincoln was transferred to Boston and Frederic de Tilney was the first mayor of the staple (VCH Lincs, ii, 320). In October 1372 Frederick de Tylneye and William de Spaigne were again appointed as collectors of customs and duties on wool, hides and cloth in the ports near Boston (CFR, viii, 187).

    Between November 1363 and December 1377 Frederick served on several commissions of wallis and fossatis, commissions of the peace and a commission of oyer and terminer in Lincolnshire usually in the company of William de Spaigne [CPR]. From September 1372 to May 1378, Frederick Tilney appears in various records of property transactions in Boston and the manor of Thetford in Norfolk. In June 1376 Frederick de Tilney of Boston appointed his son Philip de Tilney to deliver seisin of the manor of Thetford to trustees (DD/4P/4/12). In November 1377 he was appointed deputy butler in Boston (CPR, Ric. 2, i, 67). The last record I can find of him is in 1378 and I assume that he died some time shortly afterwards. Despite numerous references in secondary works calling him Sir Frederick Tilney I have been unable to find any contemporary record where he is called a knight.

    References:
    Calendars of Patent Rolls, Close Rolls, Fine Rolls, Papal Registers,
    etc.
    Pishey Thompson, History and Antiquities of Boston (1856)

    Frederick married Margery. Margery died before 1415. [Group Sheet]


  2. 9.  Margery died before 1415.
    Children:
    1. Alice Tilney died after 1431.
    2. 4. Philip Tilney was born between 1345 and 1355 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died between 4 Apr 1394 and Feb 1398.

  3. 10.  John Roos was born in in of Ringborough in Aldbrough, Yorkshire, England.
    Children:
    1. 5. Grace Roos died after 1414.

  4. 12.  Saier de Rochford was born before 1295 in of Fenn near Boston, Lincolnshire, England (son of Ralph de Rochford and Agnes de Draycote); died after Aug 1372.

    Saier married Joan Hillary before May 1348. [Group Sheet]


  5. 13.  Joan Hillary (daughter of Roger Hillary and Katherine).
    Children:
    1. 6. John Rochford, Mayor of Boston, Lincolnshire was born about 1352 in of Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died between 20 Oct 1410 and 14 Dec 1410.