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William de Say

Male 1253 - Bef 1295  (< 41 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  William de Say was born 20 Nov 1253, of Edmonton, Middlesex, England (son of William de Say and Sibyl); died Bef 16 Sep 1295.

    William married Elizabeth. Elizabeth died Aft 1307. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Geoffrey de Say was born Between 1279 and 1281, of West Greenwich, Kent, England; died Bef 3 Mar 1322.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William de Say was born , of Edmonton, Middlesex, England (son of Geoffrey de Say and Hawise de Clare); died Bef 12 Feb 1272.

    William married Sibyl. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Sibyl
    Children:
    1. Hawise de Say died Aft 1317.
    2. 1. William de Say was born 20 Nov 1253, of Edmonton, Middlesex, England; died Bef 16 Sep 1295.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Geoffrey de Say was born Abt 1180, of Edmonton, Middlesex, England (son of Geoffrey de Say and Alice de Cheyne); died 19 Aug 1230, Poitou, Aquitaine, France; was buried , Hospital of St. Mary, Dover, Kent, England.

    Notes:

    Magna Carta surety.

    Geoffrey married Hawise de Clare Bef 1215. Hawise (daughter of Richard de Clare and Amice of Gloucester) died Aft 1234. [Group Sheet]


  2. 5.  Hawise de Clare (daughter of Richard de Clare and Amice of Gloucester); died Aft 1234.
    Children:
    1. 2. William de Say was born , of Edmonton, Middlesex, England; died Bef 12 Feb 1272.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Geoffrey de Say was born , of Edmonton, Middlesex, England (son of William de Say and Beatrice de Mandeville); died Bef 19 May 1214.

    Geoffrey married Alice de Cheyne Bef 1180. Alice (daughter of John de Cheyne) died Aft 1184. [Group Sheet]


  2. 9.  Alice de Cheyne (daughter of John de Cheyne); died Aft 1184.
    Children:
    1. 4. Geoffrey de Say was born Abt 1180, of Edmonton, Middlesex, England; died 19 Aug 1230, Poitou, Aquitaine, France; was buried , Hospital of St. Mary, Dover, Kent, England.

  3. 10.  Richard de Clare was born Abt 1153, of Clare, Suffolk, England (son of Roger de Clare and Maud de St. Hilary); died Between 30 Oct 1217 and 28 Nov 1217.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1155
    • Alternate death: Nov 1217
    • Alternate death: 28 Nov 1217

    Notes:

    Earl of Hertford and of Gloucester. Also styled Earl of Clare.

    Along with his son Gilbert, he was one of the 25 Magna Carta sureties.

    Richard married Amice of Gloucester Abt 1180. Amice (daughter of William fitz Robert and Hawise of Leicester) died 1 Jan 1225. [Group Sheet]


  4. 11.  Amice of Gloucester (daughter of William fitz Robert and Hawise of Leicester); died 1 Jan 1225.

    Notes:

    Also called Amice fitz William.

    According to RA, she was not "recognized" before her death as "Countess of Gloucester," despite CP's assertion to this effect. All contemporary charters and other documents involving her refer to her as countess of Clare, i.e., Hertford.

    Children:
    1. Maud de Clare died 1213.
    2. 5. Hawise de Clare died Aft 1234.
    3. Gilbert de Clare was born Abt 1180; died 25 Oct 1230, Penrose, Brittany, France; was buried , Tewkesbury Abbey, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England.