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William de Say

Male 1253 - Bef 1295  (< 41 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  William de Say was born on 20 Nov 1253 in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England (son of William de Say and Sibyl); died before 16 Sep 1295.

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth. Elizabeth died after 1307. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Geoffrey de Say was born between 1279 and 1281 in of West Greenwich, Kent, England; died before 3 Mar 1322.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William de Say was born in in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England (son of Geoffrey de Say and Hawise de Clare); died before 12 Feb 1272.

    William married Sibyl. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Sibyl
    Children:
    1. Hawise de Say died after 1317.
    2. 1. William de Say was born on 20 Nov 1253 in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England; died before 16 Sep 1295.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Geoffrey de Say was born about 1180 in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England (son of Geoffrey de Say and Alice de Cheyne); died on 19 Aug 1230 in Poitou, Aquitaine, France; was buried in Hospital of St. Mary, Dover, Kent, England.

    Notes:

    Magna Carta surety.

    Geoffrey married Hawise de Clare before 1215. Hawise (daughter of Richard de Clare and Amice of Gloucester) died after 1234. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Hawise de Clare (daughter of Richard de Clare and Amice of Gloucester); died after 1234.
    Children:
    1. 2. William de Say was born in in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England; died before 12 Feb 1272.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Geoffrey de Say was born in in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England (son of William de Say and Beatrice de Mandeville); died before 19 May 1214.

    Geoffrey married Alice de Cheyne before 1180. Alice (daughter of John de Cheyne) died after 1184. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Alice de Cheyne (daughter of John de Cheyne); died after 1184.
    Children:
    1. 4. Geoffrey de Say was born about 1180 in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England; died on 19 Aug 1230 in Poitou, Aquitaine, France; was buried in Hospital of St. Mary, Dover, Kent, England.

  3. 10.  Richard de Clare was born about 1153 in of Clare, Suffolk, England (son of Roger de Clare and Maud de St. Hilary); died between 30 Oct 1217 and 28 Nov 1217.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1155
    • Alternate death: Nov 1217
    • Alternate death: 28 Nov 1217

    Notes:

    Earl of Hertford and of Gloucester. Also styled Earl of Clare.

    Along with his son Gilbert, he was one of the 25 Magna Carta sureties.

    Richard married Amice of Gloucester about 1180. Amice (daughter of William fitz Robert and Hawise of Leicester) died on 1 Jan 1225. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Amice of Gloucester (daughter of William fitz Robert and Hawise of Leicester); died on 1 Jan 1225.

    Notes:

    Also called Amice fitz William.

    According to RA, she was not "recognized" before her death as "Countess of Gloucester," despite CP's assertion to this effect. All contemporary charters and other documents involving her refer to her as countess of Clare, i.e., Hertford.

    Children:
    1. Maud de Clare died in 1213.
    2. 5. Hawise de Clare died after 1234.
    3. Gilbert de Clare was born about 1180; died on 25 Oct 1230 in Penrose, Brittany, France; was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England.