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Elizabeth Comyn

Female 1299 - 1372  (73 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Elizabeth Comyn was born on 1 Nov 1299 (daughter of John Comyn and Joan de Valence); died on 20 Nov 1372.


    During the reign of the Despensers, she was imprisoned by them for at least a year, and possibly two, in order to press her into granting them her property. After their fall in 1326, she successfully petitioned Edward III for the restitution of her lands.

    Elizabeth married Richard Talbot about 10 Jul 1326. Richard (son of Gilbert Talbot and Anne le Boteler) was born in in of Eccleswall in Linton, Herefordshire, England; died on 23 Oct 1356. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    1. Gilbert Talbot was born about 1332 in of Archenfield, Herefordshire, England; died on 24 Apr 1387 in Roales, Spain.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  John Comyn was born in in of Badenoch, Scotland (son of John Comyn and Eleanor de Balliol); died on 10 Feb 1306 in Dumfries, Scotland.


    Fought the English at Falkirk and at Roslin. Like his father, he was nicknamed "Red" Comyn; also like his father, he was deeply involved in the factional fights that characterized Scottish political life in his day and age. He was stabbed to death by Robert de Brus (later Robert I, King of Scots) and his followers in the Church of Friars Minors in Dumfries, allegedly because he opposed Brus's plan for insurrection.

    John married Joan de Valence before 3 Sep 1296. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  2. 3.  Joan de Valence (daughter of William de Valence and Joan de Munchensy).
    1. John Comyn died on 24 Jun 1314 in Bannockburn, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
    2. 1. Elizabeth Comyn was born on 1 Nov 1299; died on 20 Nov 1372.

Generation: 3

  1. 4.  John Comyn was born in in of Badenoch, Scotland (son of John Comyn and Eve); died before 26 May 1302.


    Like his son, he was nicknamed "Red" Comyn, although he was more commonly called "Black" Comyn. He was one of the claimants to the Scottish throne in 1291, based on a supposed descent from Donald Bane (d. 1097), younger brother of King Malcolm Canmore. In fact this claim was fanciful, as later established by J. Horace Round. Notably, he dropped it early in the proceedings in order to support his brother-in-law John Balliol.

    Also like his son, he opposed Robert de Brus and was, to some extent, in favor with Edward I as a result.

    John married Eleanor de Balliol between 1279 and 1283. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  2. 5.  Eleanor de Balliol (daughter of John de Balliol and Devorguille of Galloway).
    1. 2. John Comyn was born in in of Badenoch, Scotland; died on 10 Feb 1306 in Dumfries, Scotland.

  3. 6.  William de Valence was born before 1225 (son of Hugh X de Lusignan and Isabel of Angoulême, Queen Consort of England); died on 16 May 1296 in Brabourne, Kent, England; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1226
    • Alternate birth: Aft 1225, Valence, Couhé-Vérac, Vienne, Poitou, France
    • Alternate death: Bef 18 May 1296


    Also called Guillaume de Lusignan; Guillaume de Valence.

    Seigneur of Valence; Constable of Goodrich and Pembroke Castles 1247; Warden of the Town and the Castle of Hertford 1247, 1251; Steward of the Manors of Stamford and Grantham, Lincolnshire 1258; Privy Councillor; Constable of Kilgarren Castle 1275; Seneschal of the Agenois 1279; Constable and Keeper of Bergevenny Castle 1281; Constable of Kilgaren Castle 1282; Guardian and Lieutenant of England 1285; and, in right of his wife, Lord (sometimes styled Earl) of Pembroke, and Lord of the Towns of Ross, Carnbothe, and Clumene, co. Wexford, Ireland.

    From Wikipedia:

    "William de Valence (died 18 May 1296), born Guillaume de Lusignan, was a French nobleman and knight who became important in English politics due to his relationship to Henry III. He was heavily involved in the Second Barons' War, supporting the King and Prince Edward against the rebels led by Simon de Montfort. [...]

    "He was the fourth son of Isabella of Angoulême, widow of king John of England, and her second husband, Hugh X of Lusignan, Count of La Marche, and was thus a half-brother to Henry III of England, and uncle to Edward I. William was born in the Cistercian abbey in Valence, Couhé-Vérac, Vienne, Poitou, near Lusignan, sometime in the late 1220s (his elder sister Alice was born in 1224).

    "The French conquest of Poitou in 1246 created great difficulties for William's family, and so he and his brothers, Guy de Lusignan and Aymer, accepted Henry III's invitation to come to England in 1247. The king found important positions for all of them; William was soon married to a great heiress, Joan de Munchensi or Munchensy [...]

    "This favouritism to royal relatives was unpopular with many of the English nobility, a discontent which would culminate in the Second Barons' War. It did not take long for William to make enemies in England. From his new lands in South Wales, he tried to regain the palatine rights which had been attached to the Earldom of Pembroke, but his energies were not confined to this. The King heaped lands and honours upon him, and he was soon thoroughly hated as one of the most prominent of the rapacious foreigners. Moreover, some trouble in Wales led to a quarrel between him and Simon de Montfort, who was to become the figurehead for the rebels. He refused to comply with the provisions imposed on the King at Oxford in 1258, and took refuge in Wolvesey Castle at Winchester, where he was besieged and compelled to surrender and leave the country.

    "However, in 1259 William and de Montfort were formally reconciled in Paris, and in 1261 Valence was again in England and once more enjoying the royal favour. He fought for Henry at the disastrous Battle of Lewes, and after the defeat again fled to France, while de Montfort ruled England. However, by 1265 he was back, landing in Pembrokeshire, and taking part in the Siege of Gloucester and the final royalist victory at Evesham. After the battle he was restored to his estates and accompanied Prince Edward, afterwards Edward I, to Palestine.

    "From his base in Pembrokeshire he was a mainstay of the English campaigns against Llywelyn ap Gruffudd and later Dafydd ap Gruffudd; in the war of 1282-3 that led to the conquest of Wales he negotiated the surrender of one of Dafydd's last remaining castles, Castell-y-Bere, with its custodian, Cynfrig ap Madog. He also went several times to France on public business and he was one of Edward's representatives in the famous suit over the succession to the crown of Scotland in 1291 and 1292."

    William married Joan de Munchensy on 13 Aug 1247. Joan (daughter of Warin de Munchensy and Joan Marshal) died before 30 Sep 1307. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  4. 7.  Joan de Munchensy (daughter of Warin de Munchensy and Joan Marshal); died before 30 Sep 1307.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 20 Sep 1307


    Walter Rye (citation details below) erroneously has her as a daughter of her father's second wife, Denise de Anesty.

    1. Isabel de Valence died on 3 Oct 1305; was buried in Grey Friars, Coventry, Warwickshire, England.
    2. 3. Joan de Valence

Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John Comyn was born in in of Badenoch, Scotland; died between 1274 and 1279.


    Justiciar of Galloway. "He adhered to Henry III against the rebel Barons and was captured at the Battle of Lewes, 1264. Contemporary historians describe him as 'a man prone to robbery and rashness' and as 'a knight of great renown.'" [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    John married Eve. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  2. 9.  Eve
    1. 4. John Comyn was born in in of Badenoch, Scotland; died before 26 May 1302.

  3. 10.  John de Balliol (son of Hugh de Balliol and Cecily de Fontaines); died before 27 Oct 1268.


    Father of John II de Balliol, king of Scotland from 1292 to 1296.

    From Wikipedia:

    [He] was a leading figure of Scottish and Anglo-Norman life. [...] It is believed that he was educated at Durham School in the city of Durham.

    In 1223, Lord John married Dervorguilla of Galloway, the daughter of Alan, Lord of Galloway and Margaret of Huntingdon. By the mid-thirteenth century, he and his wife had become very wealthy, principally as a result of inheritances from Dervorguilla's family. This wealth allowed Balliol to play a prominent public role, and, on Henry III's instruction, he served as joint protector of the young king of Scots, Alexander III. He was one of Henry III's leading counsellors between 1258 and 1265 and was appointed Sheriff of Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire from 1261 to 1262. He was captured at the battle of Lewes in 1264 but escaped and rejoined King Henry. [...]

    Following a dispute with the Bishop of Durham, he agreed to provide funds for scholars studying at Oxford. Support for a house of students began in around 1263; further endowments after his death, supervised by Dervorguilla, resulted in the establishment of Balliol College.

    John married Devorguille of Galloway in 1233. Devorguille (daughter of Alan fitz Roland and Margaret of Huntingdon) died on 28 Jan 1290; was buried in Sweet Heart Abbey, Galloway, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  4. 11.  Devorguille of Galloway (daughter of Alan fitz Roland and Margaret of Huntingdon); died on 28 Jan 1290; was buried in Sweet Heart Abbey, Galloway, Scotland.
    1. 5. Eleanor de Balliol
    2. Cecily de Balliol died before 1273.

  5. 12.  Hugh X de Lusignan was born about 1183 (son of Hugh "le Brun" de Lusignan); died after 15 Jan 1249.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Bef 1185
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1195
    • Alternate death: 5 Jun 1249, Angouleme, Aquitaine, France


    Seigneur de Lusignan; Count of La Marche; Count of Angouleme.

    Also called Hugh V of La Marche; Hugh I of Angouleme; Hugh le Brun.

    "His father, Hugh IX de Lusignan was betrothed to marry 12-year-old Isabel of Angoulême in 1200, when King John of England took her for his Queen, an action which resulted in the entire de Lusignan family rebelling against the English king. Following John's death, Queen Isabella returned to her native France, where she married Hugh X de Lusignan on 10 May 1220. By Hugh's marriage to Isabella, he became Count of Angoulême until her death in 1246. Together they founded the abbey of Valence." [Wikipedia]

    Hugh married Isabel of Angoulême, Queen Consort of England between 10 Mar 1220 and 22 Apr 1220 in Angouleme, Aquitaine, France. Isabel (daughter of Adémar and Alix de Courtenay) was born about 1188; died on 31 May 1246; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  6. 13.  Isabel of Angoulême, Queen Consort of England was born about 1188 (daughter of Adémar and Alix de Courtenay); died on 31 May 1246; was buried in Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 3 Jun 1246
    • Alternate death: 4 Jun 1246, Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France


    Countess of Angoulême. Crowned Queen of England on 8 Oct 1200.

    1. Alice de Lusignan died on 9 Feb 1256; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.
    2. Hugh XI "le Brun" de Lusignan was born about 1221; died in 1250 in Egypt.
    3. 6. William de Valence was born before 1225; died on 16 May 1296 in Brabourne, Kent, England; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England.

  7. 14.  Warin de Munchensy was born in in of Winfarthing, Norfolk, England (son of William de Munchensy and Aveline de Clare); died about 20 Jul 1255.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1192, of Swanscombe, Dartford, Kent, England


    Called by Matthew Paris "one of the most noble, prudent, and wealthy men in all the realm."

    "Warin de Munchensy, brother and heir, unmarried and apparently a minor at his brother's death, gave the King 2,000 marks, to have his inheritance, 23 December 1213. He was involved on the side of the Barons against King John, and his lands were forfeited; but he returned to his allegiance by November 1217. In 1221 he accompanied the King to the siege of Byham; was serving in Wales with his brother-in-law, William, Earl of Pembroke, in 1223, with the King overseas, October 1229 to April 1230, in Wales at the end of 1233, and in Gascony 1242-44, taking part in the battle of Saintes. In May 1244 he was summoned against the Scots, and in June 1245 for service in Wales; in August 1252 for service again in Gascony, which he evidently performed, having respite for aid in respect of that expedition. He was at Dover on 26 December 1254, the day Henry III appears to have crossed from Boulogne. His very rich inheritance and feudal influence were augmented by his first marriage [to Joan Marshal]." [Complete Peerage]

    Warin married Joan Marshal after 14 May 1219. Joan (daughter of William Marshal and Isabel de Clare) died before Nov 1234. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

  8. 15.  Joan Marshal (daughter of William Marshal and Isabel de Clare); died before Nov 1234.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 15 Jun 1235

    1. 7. Joan de Munchensy died before 30 Sep 1307.