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Warin de Lisle

Male Abt 1333 - 1382  (~ 49 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Warin de Lisle was born about 1333 in of Kingston Lisle, Berkshire, England (son of Gerard de Lisle and Eleanor de Arundel); died on 28 Jun 1382.

    Family/Spouse: Margaret Pipard. Margaret (daughter of William Pipard and Margery) died on 3 Aug 1375. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Margaret Lisle was born between 1360 and 1363; died on 20 Mar 1392.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Gerard de Lisle was born about 1304 in of Stowe, Northamptonshire, England (son of Warin de Lisle and Alice le Tyeys); died on 9 Jun 1360.

    Gerard married Eleanor de Arundel after 3 Dec 1329. Eleanor (daughter of Edmund Fitz Alan and Alice de Warenne) died before 30 Mar 1347. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Eleanor de Arundel (daughter of Edmund Fitz Alan and Alice de Warenne); died before 30 Mar 1347.
    Children:
    1. 1. Warin de Lisle was born about 1333 in of Kingston Lisle, Berkshire, England; died on 28 Jun 1382.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Warin de Lisle was born in in of Kingston Lisle, Berkshire, England (son of Gerard de Lisle and Alice de Armenters); died after 16 Mar 1322 in Pontefract, Yorkshire, England; was buried in Church of the Black Friars, Pontefract, Yorkshire, England.

    Notes:

    "He was summoned against the Scots in 1298 and 1319. In 1303 he and others were accused of theft and assault in Berkshire. In 1308 he was appointed conservator of the peace in the town and University of Oxford. In 1320 he was accused of inciting to assault and murder and of protecting his assailants at his manors of Kingston and Beedon, Berskhire. In 1321 he joined with Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford, and others against the Despensers. Sir Warin de Lisle fought against the king at the Battle of Boroughbridge 16 Mar 1321/2. He was captured, condemned as a traitor, and executed at Pontefract, being dragged by horses and hanged." [Royal Ancestry, citation details below.]

    Warin married Alice le Tyeys. Alice (daughter of Henry le Tyeys and Hawise de Montagu) was born between 1287 and 1297; died on 2 Aug 1347. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Alice le Tyeys was born between 1287 and 1297 (daughter of Henry le Tyeys and Hawise de Montagu); died on 2 Aug 1347.
    Children:
    1. Margery de Lisle died on 21 May 1361.
    2. Alice de Lisle died after 1344.
    3. 2. Gerard de Lisle was born about 1304 in of Stowe, Northamptonshire, England; died on 9 Jun 1360.

  3. 6.  Edmund Fitz Alan was born on 1 May 1285 in Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire, Engand (son of Richard Fitz Alan and Alice di Saluzzo); died on 17 Nov 1326 in Hereford, Herefordshire, England; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1 May 1285, Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire, England

    Notes:

    Also called Edmund Arundel. Earl of Arundel. An opponent of Gaveston, he became one of the Lords Ordainers, and one of those before whom Gaveston was tried before he was killed. Edmund Fitz Alan was also among the magnates who refused to help Edward II against Scotland, resulting in the disaster at Bannockburn. However, around the time his son Richard was betrothed to Hugh Dispenser the Younger's daughter Isabel, Fitz Alan began a rapprochement with the king. This would ultimately result in Fitz Alan's execution on the order of Roger Mortimer. According to a one account, a blunt sword was ordered, and his beheading took 22 strokes.

    "Though he was never canonised, a cult emerged around the late earl in the 1390s, associating him with the 9th-century martyr king St Edmund. This veneration may have been inspired by a similar cult around his grandson, Richard Fitz Alan, 11th Earl of Arundel, who was executed by Richard II in 1397." [Wikipedia]

    Just to drive home the point that association with the Despensers never works out for anybody, in 1344 his son Richard sought and obtained an anullment from his marriage to Isabel le Despenser, on the grounds that the betrothal had been inflicted on him in childhood and without his consent.

    Edmund married Alice de Warenne after 30 Dec 1304. Alice (daughter of William de Warenne and Joan de Vere) died between 1330 and 23 May 1338. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Alice de Warenne (daughter of William de Warenne and Joan de Vere); died between 1330 and 23 May 1338.
    Children:
    1. Mary de Arundel died on 29 Aug 1396.
    2. Aline de Arundel died on 20 Jan 1386.
    3. Elizabeth de Arundel died on 11 Mar 1384.
    4. 3. Eleanor de Arundel died before 30 Mar 1347.
    5. Richard Fitz Alan was born about 1313 in of Arundel, Sussex, England; died on 24 Jan 1376 in Arundel, Sussex, England; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Gerard de Lisle (son of Robert de Lisle and Alice Fitz Gerold); died on 6 Oct 1287 in Wales; was buried in Stowe, Northamptonshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1287
    • Alternate death: 1288

    Notes:

    He was killed during the siege of Dryslwyn when a mine collapsed.

    Gerard married Alice de Armenters after 1256. Alice (daughter of Henry de Armenters and Alice) died before 1318. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Alice de Armenters (daughter of Henry de Armenters and Alice); died before 1318.
    Children:
    1. 4. Warin de Lisle was born in in of Kingston Lisle, Berkshire, England; died after 16 Mar 1322 in Pontefract, Yorkshire, England; was buried in Church of the Black Friars, Pontefract, Yorkshire, England.

  3. 10.  Henry le Tyeys was born in in of Hardwell, Berkshire, England (son of Henry le Tyeys and Joan Foliot); died before 8 Oct 1307.

    Notes:

    He fought in the vanguard at the battle of Falkirk, 1298, and he was present at the siege of Caerlaverock in 1300. He was summoned to Parliament from 6 Feb 1299 to 26 Aug 1307 by writs directed Henrico Tyeys.

    Henry married Hawise de Montagu before 1285. Hawise (daughter of Simon de Montagu and Hawise de St. Amand) died about 1322. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Hawise de Montagu (daughter of Simon de Montagu and Hawise de St. Amand); died about 1322.
    Children:
    1. 5. Alice le Tyeys was born between 1287 and 1297; died on 2 Aug 1347.

  5. 12.  Richard Fitz Alan was born on 3 Feb 1267 in of Arundel, Sussex, England (son of John Fitz Alan and Isabella de Mortimer); died on 9 Mar 1302; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    Also called Richard de Arundel. Earl of Arundel.

    From Complete Peerage, 1:240-41:

    Richard fitz Alan, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry and [according to the admission of 1443], Earl of Arundel, only son and heir, born 3 February 1266/7, and was only 5 years old at his father's death. He had seizin of his lands 8 December 1287. According to Glover he was created Earl of Sussex (a) in 1289, when he was knighted and "received the sword of the county of Sussex" from Edward I "ut vocatur Comes;", but it seems more probable that this creation was as Earl of Arundel (b). At all events no more is heard of the former title (Sussex) as connected with this family, but only of the title of Arundel. On 12 February 1290/1 there is a grant to him as Richard Arundel, Earl of Arundel. In October 1292 he was summoned by a writ directed to the Earl of Arundel, and was summoned to Parliament 24 June 1295, by a writ directed Ricardo filio Alani Comiti Arundell, ranking him as junior to all the other Earls. He fought in the Welsh wars 1288, in Gascony 1295-7, and in the Scottish wars 1298-1300, being present at the siege of Carlaverock in 1300. He signed the Barons' letter to the Pope, 12 February 1300/1.

    (a) "The Earldom of Sussex must at this period have been a subject of contention between the De Warrens and Fitz Alans, for John de Warren, Earl of Surrey, was receiving, at the very time that this investiture occurred, writs directed to him as Earl of Sussex. John de Warren was perhaps the greatest noble of the time in which he lived, and his power and influence may have operated to induce Fitz Alan to abandon his claim upon the Earldom of Sussex and to adopt that [i.e. the Earldom of Arundel] by which his descendants have ever since been known." (Courthope, p. 29).

    (b) It is worthy of remark, in connection with the very doubtful right, either of his father or grandfather, to the Earldom of Arundel, that it was not till 1282, viz. sometime after their death and during this Earl's minority, that Isabel, Countess of Arundel, widow of Hugh (d'Aubigny), died. It would almost appear (possibly owing to the largess of her dower) that the Earldom was not dealt with during her lifetime. A somewhat parallel case occurs, later on, in the same family, when Richard, Earl of Arundel, who, in 1347, had suc. his maternal uncle the Earl of Surrey, did not assume the Earldom of Surrey till the death of Joan, widow of the afsd. Earl, in 1361.

    Richard married Alice di Saluzzo in Nov 1282. Alice (daughter of Tomasso di Saluzzo and Aluigia del Vasto) was born in in of Saluzzo, Cuneo, Piedmont, Italy; died on 25 Sep 1292; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Alice di Saluzzo was born in in of Saluzzo, Cuneo, Piedmont, Italy (daughter of Tomasso di Saluzzo and Aluigia del Vasto); died on 25 Sep 1292; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    Also called Alasia di Saluzzo; Alasia del Vasto di Saluzzo.

    "Along with her aunt Alasia de Saluzzo who married Edmund de Lacy, 2nd earl of Lincoln, in 1247, Alasia was one of the first Italian women to marry into an English noble family. Her marriage had been arranged by the late King Henry III's widowed queen consort Eleanor de Provence." [Leo van de Pas]

    CP has her buried at Todingham Priory, but Chris Phillips's compilation of corrections to CP includes Douglas Richardson's note in Jan 2002 that "the bodies of both Richard and Alesia were at Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, by 1341, when provision was made for 12 candles to burn in the church of Haughmond around their tombs."

    Children:
    1. Alice de Arundel died after 12 Dec 1325.
    2. Margaret de Arundel died before 1354.
    3. Eleanor de Arundel was born about 1284 in Arundel, Sussex, England; died in 1328; was buried in Beverley, Yorkshire, England.
    4. 6. Edmund Fitz Alan was born on 1 May 1285 in Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire, Engand; died on 17 Nov 1326 in Hereford, Herefordshire, England; was buried in Haughmond Abbey, Shropshire, England.

  7. 14.  William de Warenne was born in in of Medmenham, Buckinghamshire, England (son of John de Warenne and Alice de Lusignan); died on 15 Dec 1286 in Croydon, Surrey, England; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 15 Jan 1256, of Bromfield, Denbighshire, Wales
    • Alternate death: 15 Dec 1286, Croydon, Surrey, England

    Notes:

    Killed at a tournament; said to have been ambushed and slain by rivals.

    William married Joan de Vere in 1284. Joan (daughter of Robert de Vere and Alice de Sanford) died about 23 Nov 1293; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Joan de Vere (daughter of Robert de Vere and Alice de Sanford); died about 23 Nov 1293; was buried in Lewes Priory, Sussex, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 24 Nov 1293

    Children:
    1. 7. Alice de Warenne died between 1330 and 23 May 1338.