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Maud de Lucy

Female - Aft 1170


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Maud de Lucy (daughter of Richard de Lucy and Rohese de Boulogne); died Aft 1170.

    Maud married Walter fitz Robert. Walter (son of Robert fitz Richard and Maud de Senlis) was born Bef 1134, of Little Dunmow, Essex, England; died 1198, Little Dunmow, Essex, England; was buried , Dunmow Priory, Little Dunmow, Essex, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Robert fitz Walter was born , Little Dunmow, Essex, England; died 9 Dec 1235.
    2. Alice fitz Walter

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Richard de Lucy was born Between 1105 and 1110, Luce, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France (son of Aveline); died 14 Jul 1179, Lesnes Abbey, Kent, England; was buried , Lesnes Abbey, Kent, England.

    Notes:

    Or de Luci; de Lusci; de Luscy. Called "The Loyal."

    Sheriff of Essex, 1154; Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire, 1155-1157; Chief Justice of England under Henry II.

    Died as a cloister member, having resigned his office after Easter 1179.

    Richard married Rohese de Boulogne Between 1130 and 1135. Rohese (daughter of William of Boulogne) was born , of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England; died Bef 30 May 1151; was buried , Holy Trinity Church, London, England. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Rohese de Boulogne was born , of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England (daughter of William of Boulogne); died Bef 30 May 1151; was buried , Holy Trinity Church, London, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1153

    Notes:

    "Richard de Lucy's only known wife was Rose, who died sometime before Queen Maud's death in 1152. Queen Maud and her son and heir, Eustace, witnessed a notification by Richard that he had, 'granted to the canons of Holy Trinity, London, in frank almoin, 20s. yearly rent from Niweton [Newington] for the soul of Roheis his wife, who is buried in their church...'" ["A Rose by Any Other Name: Another Daughter of Richard de Lucy," citation details below. Notwithstanding this, King Stephen's wife Maud actually died in 1151.]

    Children:
    1. Alice de Lucy died Bef 1219.
    2. 1. Maud de Lucy died Aft 1170.
    3. Aveline de Lucy died Bef 1219.
    4. Godfrey de Lucy
    5. Reynold de Lucy died Abt Jan 1199.
    6. Rose de Lucy
    7. Geoffrey de Lucy was born , of Newington, Kent, England; died Bef 1179.


Generation: 3

  1. 5.  Aveline was born , of Newington, Kent, England; died Aft 1131.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1078, Normandy, France

    Notes:

    "Kinswoman and co-heiress of William Goth." [Royal Ancestry]

    Children:
    1. 2. Richard de Lucy was born Between 1105 and 1110, Luce, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; died 14 Jul 1179, Lesnes Abbey, Kent, England; was buried , Lesnes Abbey, Kent, England.

  2. 6.  William of Boulogne was born Abt 1085, of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England (son of Geoffrey of Boulogne and Beatrice de Mandeville); died Bef 1130.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Abt 1159

    Children:
    1. 3. Rohese de Boulogne was born , of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England; died Bef 30 May 1151; was buried , Holy Trinity Church, London, England.
    2. Faramus of Boulogne was born Abt 1105, of Tingry, Pas de Calais, France; died Between 1183 and 1184.


Generation: 4

  1. 12.  Geoffrey of Boulogne was born Abt 1060, of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England (son of Eustache II of Boulogne and Godgifu of England); died Aft 1086.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1045
    • Alternate death: 1105

    Notes:

    Many sources show him as a bastard son of Eustace of Boulogne by an unknown mistress. In "The Parentage of Geoffrey fitz Eustace (c. 1045-1105)" (Foundations 10:98, 2018), Kim Anderson and Richard Joscelyne make a good case that he was probably a legitimate son of Eustace by his first wife, Godgifu.

    Was Godfrey the crusader the same Geoffrey that married Beatrice de Mandeville? This claim pops up in many places; people doing personal genealogical research are most likely to encounter it in David H. Kelley's essay in Ancestral Roots, eighth edition (line 158A). The short answer: No.

    Both were sons of Eustace II, albeit by different mothers. The claim that they were a single person doesn't hold up. Todd A. Farmerie: "Murray's analysis takes the sole argument in favor of this connection, that the names Geoffrey and Godfrey were, at the time, synonymous, and shows it to be false. This leaves us with two men with the same father but different names, ending up in different places and conflicting family histories -- one with documented children, the other remembered as unmarried and childless -- without the slightest reason to suggest that they were anything but siblings other than personal preference." Additionally, Boulogne and Bouillon are completely different places. Godfrey/Geoffrey's Boulogne is the one on the north coast of France, now called Boulogne-sur-Mer. The region surrounding it, Boulonnais, became an earldom in the ninth century and was later brought to the crown of England by Maud of Boulogne's marriage to Stephen of Blois.

    Geoffrey married Beatrice de Mandeville Bef 1084. Beatrice (daughter of Geoffrey I de Mandeville and Adeliza de Balts) was born , of Rycote, Oxfordshire, England. [Group Sheet]


  2. 13.  Beatrice de Mandeville was born , of Rycote, Oxfordshire, England (daughter of Geoffrey I de Mandeville and Adeliza de Balts).
    Children:
    1. 6. William of Boulogne was born Abt 1085, of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England; died Bef 1130.