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William de Ferrers

Male 1272 - 1325  (53 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  William de Ferrers was born 30 Jan 1272, Yoxall, Staffordshire, England (son of William de Ferrers and Anne Durward); died 20 Mar 1325.

    Notes:

    He fought at the battle of Falkirk, 22 Jul 1298, and was present at the siege of Caerlaverock Castle in 1300. He was summoned to Parliament by writs, 29 Dec 1299 to 24 Sep 1324.

    William married (Unknown) de Segrave. (Unknown) (daughter of John de Segrave and Christian de Plessets) died Bef 1316. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Anne de Ferrers died 8 Aug 1367.
    2. Henry de Ferrers was born Abt 1303; died 15 Sep 1343, Groby in Ratby, Leicestershire, England; was buried , Ulverscroft Priory, Leicestershire, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William de Ferrers was born Abt 1240, of Groby, Leicestershire, England (son of William de Ferrers and Margaret de Quincy); died Bef 20 Dec 1287.

    Notes:

    He was never married to an Anne Despenser, as widely reported in 20th-century secondary sources.

    William married Anne Durward 1270. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Anne Durward (daughter of Alan Durward and Marjory of Scotland).
    Children:
    1. 1. William de Ferrers was born 30 Jan 1272, Yoxall, Staffordshire, England; died 20 Mar 1325.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  William de Ferrers was born Abt 1193, of Tutbury, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England (son of William de Ferrers and Agnes of Chester); died 24 Mar 1254, Evington, Leicestershire, England; was buried 31 Mar 1254, Merevale Abbey, Warwickshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 28 Mar 1254, Evington, Leicestershire, England

    Notes:

    Earl of Derby. Constable of Bolsover Castle.

    Died of injuries sustained when he was thrown from a chariot crossing a bridge at St. Neots in Cambridgeshire.

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    So to start with, Sir William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, born 1193, helpfully had two daughters named Agnes de Ferrers.

    The first Agnes de Ferrers, by Sir William's first wife Sybil Marshal, was born about 1222 and married William de Vescy (b. bef. 16 May 1205).

    The second Agnes de Ferrers, by Sir William's second wife Margaret de Quincy, was born about 1252 and married Sir Robert de Muscegros (b. abt. 1252).

    But that's not all!

    Sir William also had two daughters named Joan de Ferrers.

    Again (you're starting to get the idea by now), the first Joan de Ferrers, by Sir William's first wife Sybil Marshal, was born about 1233 and married, first Sir John de Mohun (b. abt. 1227, d. bef. 1254), and second, Sir Robert de Aguillon (b. 15 Feb 1235/36).

    The second Joan de Ferrers, by Sir William's second wife Margaret de Quincy, was born in 1245 and married Thomas de Berkeley, 1st Baron Berkeley (b. 1245).

    This second pair of Joans is made even more hilarious by the existence of yet a third Joan de Ferrers, contemporary to the other two, born abt. 1256 to a completely different William de Ferrers, the one born c. 1225, of Bere Ferrers, Tavistock, Devon.

    I'm sure they all got together regularly to laugh about how aggravating this would be to people seven hundred years in the future.

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    As a final piece of genealogical curiosa, Eleanor de Ferrers, youngest daughter of William de Ferrers by his first wife, married Roger de Quincy, father of William de Ferrers' second wife Roger de Quincy, thus rendering Eleanor de Ferrers and Margaret de Quincy one another's stepmothers.

    William married Margaret de Quincy Bef 1239. Margaret (daughter of Roger de Quincy and Helen of Galloway) was born Bef 1223; died Bef 12 Mar 1281. [Group Sheet]


  2. 5.  Margaret de Quincy was born Bef 1223 (daughter of Roger de Quincy and Helen of Galloway); died Bef 12 Mar 1281.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1294

    Children:
    1. Joan de Ferrers died 19 Mar 1310; was buried , Abbey Church of St. Augustine, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.
    2. Robert de Ferrers was born Abt 1239; died Abt 1279; was buried , St. Thomas Priory, Staffordshire, England.
    3. 2. William de Ferrers was born Abt 1240, of Groby, Leicestershire, England; died Bef 20 Dec 1287.

  3. 6.  Alan Durward was born , of Coull, Aberdeenshire, Scotland (son of Thomas Durward); died 1275; was buried , Coupar Angus Abbey, Perthshire, Scotland.

    Notes:

    Usher of the King of Scots. Sometime Earl of Athol, 1233-35. Styled Justiciar of Scotland at various points between 1243 and 1255.

    In 1251 he was suspected of seeking his wife's legitimization so that she could be heiress to the throne of Scotland. In 1253 he accompanied Henry III of England on his expedition to Guienne. In 1255 he was one of the guardians of Alexander III during the king's minority.

    In 1264, acting on the king's orders, he and the earls of Buchan attacked the western islands of Scotland, specifically to punish those who had urged King Haakon IV of Norway to invade Scotland. They killed some, expelled others, and returned with a great deal of plunder.

    Alan married Marjory of Scotland Bef 4 Jul 1251. [Group Sheet]


  4. 7.  Marjory of Scotland (daughter of Alexander II, King of Scotland and (Unknown mistress of Alexander II)).
    Children:
    1. 3. Anne Durward


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  William de Ferrers (son of William de Ferrers); died 22 Sep 1247.

    Notes:

    "Sheriff of Notts and Derby, for 7 weeks, February-March 1194. About that time, before the King's return to England, he supported the justiciar against John, Count of Mortain, and, with the Earl of Chester, besieged Nottingham Castle. Shortly afterwards he took part at Richard's second Coronation, 17 April, being one of the four Earls who bore the canopy. After the King's death, he was at the Council of Northampton, which declared for John as Richard's successor: he was present at the Coronation, 27 May 1199. On 7 June 1199, the King restored and confirmed to him the third penny of all the pleas pleaded per vicecomitem de Dereby, unde ipse Comes est, as amply as any of his predecessors had had the same, to hold, to him and his heirs for ever, and with his own hand girded him with the sword as an Earl. On the same day the King gave him Higham with the hundred and a half, and the park of that town, and Newbottle and Blisworth, as his right and inheritance which descended to him as right heir of the land which was of William Peverel, to hold, to him and his heirs for ever, by the service of a knlght's fee. And the Earl quit-claimed the residue of the land which was of William Peverel to the King, and paid 2,000 marks for his charter. He was present at the Coronation of Henry III, 28 October 1216. On 30 October the King granted him the castles of Peak and Bolsover, co. Derby, with the homages, and on 16 January 1216/7 the manor of Melbourne in that co., to hold till the King was 14 years of age. He assisted the Regent to raise the siege of Lincoln Castle, 20 May 1217, and with his brother-in-law, the Earl of Chester, commanded the royal forces which took and razed the castle of Montsorel. In June 1218 he went on Crusade. He was warned, 26 June 1222, to surrender the castles of Peak and Bolsover before Michaelmas. Sheriff of co. Lancaster and Keeper of the honour of Lancaster, 30 December 1223 to 2 January 1227/8. He accompanied the King in the expedition to Brittany and Poitou, April to October 1230. On 19 January 1230/1 he was given the custody of all the lands of the Normans in England which were of his fee. He was at the Council of London, February 1231/2. He was summoned for Military Service against the Scots 15 May 1244, by writ directed W. de Ferar' comiti Derebi." [Complete Peerage]

    Died of the complications of gout.

    William married Agnes of Chester 1192. Agnes (daughter of Hugh of Chester and Bertrade de Montfort) died 2 Nov 1247. [Group Sheet]


  2. 9.  Agnes of Chester (daughter of Hugh of Chester and Bertrade de Montfort); died 2 Nov 1247.

    Notes:

    According to CP XIV, she may actually have been called Alice. The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz calls her "Agnes (?Alice) de Blundeville".

    Children:
    1. Bertha de Ferrers died Aft 10 Feb 1267; was buried , Grey Friars, Dunwich, Suffolk, England.
    2. Sybil de Ferrers
    3. 4. William de Ferrers was born Abt 1193, of Tutbury, Burton-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England; died 24 Mar 1254, Evington, Leicestershire, England; was buried 31 Mar 1254, Merevale Abbey, Warwickshire, England.

  3. 10.  Roger de Quincy was born Abt 1195 (son of Saher de Quincy and Margaret of Leicester); died 25 Apr 1264.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: Brackley, Northamptonshire, England

    Notes:

    Earl of Winchester. In right of his first wife, hereditary Constable of Scotland. "At his death he was probably the greatest Anglo-Scottish landowner of his day" [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography].

    From the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:

    "Little is known of Roger de Quincy before 1219. He was probably the son whom Saer delivered to King John in 1213 as a Scottish hostage for the security of the Anglo-Scottish treaty of 1212. He emerged onto the political stage in 1215 when, along with Saer and the leaders of the baronial rebellion against John, he was excommunicated by Innocent III (r. 1198–1216), but did not figure prominently in the civil war that followed the king's death. [...]

    "Roger de Quincy did not hold the prominence in politics that his father had commanded in England [...] but his wealth secured him an important role. In 1239 and 1246 he joined in written remonstrances from the English nobility to Gregory IX (r. 1227–41) and Innocent IV (r. 1243–54) concerning papal interference in English affairs. Association with the stirrings of dissatisfaction with the government of Henry III expressed in the parliaments of 1248 and 1254 led to identification with the baronial opposition in 1258. At the Oxford parliament Quincy was elected by the barons to the twelve-member commission charged with attendance at the three annual parliaments provided for under the provisions of Oxford, and was appointed also to the committee that arranged the financial aid promised to Henry. In 1259 he led a delegation to St Omer to intercept Richard, earl of Cornwall (d. 1272), and forbid him to return to England until he had sworn to observe the provisions of Oxford. This appears to have been Roger de Quincy's last major act, for he played little part in subsequent events which culminated in open conflict between the king and his baronial opponents, and died on 25 April 1264, eighteen days after Henry had precipitated the country into civil war."

    Roger married Helen of Galloway. Helen (daughter of Alan fitz Roland and (Unknown daughter of Roger de Lacy)) died Aft 21 Nov 1245; was buried , Brackley, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet]


  4. 11.  Helen of Galloway (daughter of Alan fitz Roland and (Unknown daughter of Roger de Lacy)); died Aft 21 Nov 1245; was buried , Brackley, Northamptonshire, England.

    Notes:

    Also called Ellen.

    Alan Fitz Roland, often called Alan of Galloway, married three times. His first wife was a daughter of Roger of Chester, who is often called Roger de Lacy. His second wife was Margaret of Scotland, daughter of David, Earl of Huntington. His third wife was a daughter of Hugh de Lacy, 1st Earl of Ulster.

    The presence of two marriages to daughters of men called de Lacy, both of which daughters' names have been lost, has created understandable confusion. Many online sources show Alan Fitz Roland's daughter Ellen as a daughter of his third marriage. In fact she was a daughter of his first; her maternal grandfather was Roger of Chester, also called Roger de Lacy -- not Hugh de Lacy. To the best of our knowledge, Alan Fitz Roland's third marriage was without issue.

    Children:
    1. Elizabeth de Quincy died Bef 4 May 1303.
    2. Ellen de Quincy was born Abt 1222, Winchester, Hampshire, England; died Bef 20 Aug 1296.
    3. 5. Margaret de Quincy was born Bef 1223; died Bef 12 Mar 1281.

  5. 12.  Thomas Durward was born , of Skene, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.

    Notes:

    Also called Thomas de Lundin; Thomas Fitz Malcolm de Lundin.

    Usher of the King of Scots. Sheriff of Fife. Sheriff of Inverness.

    Children:
    1. 6. Alan Durward was born , of Coull, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died 1275; was buried , Coupar Angus Abbey, Perthshire, Scotland.

  6. 14.  Alexander II, King of Scotland was born 24 Aug 1198, Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland (son of William I "The Lion", King of Scotland and Ermengarde de Beaumont); died 8 Jul 1249, Kerrera, Argyll, Scotland; was buried , Melrose Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

    Alexander married (Unknown mistress of Alexander II). [Group Sheet]


  7. 15.  (Unknown mistress of Alexander II)
    Children:
    1. 7. Marjory of Scotland