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John Thimbleby

Male 1482 - Bef 1550  (< 68 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John Thimbleby was born in 1482 in of Irnham, Lincolnshire, England (son of Richard Thimbleby and Elizabeth Hilton); died before 25 Jun 1550.

    Notes:

    He was one of the knights and gentlemen who were servitors at the coronation of Anne Boleyn in 1533.

    From a post to soc.genealogy.medieval by Don Stone, 8 Oct 1997:

    Sir Richard's THIMBLEBY's father was Sir John Thimbleby, 1482-1550, lord of the manor of Irnham. He was a recusant (i.e., one of those who remained loyal to the Roman Catholic Church after the establishment of the Church of England), and in 1536 he led a group of Lincolnshire men in the ill-fated Pilgrimage of Grace, the only substantial resistance to Henry VIII's dissolution of the monasteries. At the Roman Catholic Church of Corby, Lincolnshire, there is a typed manuscript by Brigadier Trappes Lomax entitled "The Owners of Irnham Hall" (this from the bibliography of David I. A. Steel's A Lincolnshire Village: the Parish of Corby Glen in its Historical Context). This manuscript is on my list of things to see when I visit England next summer.

    From Edward Stafford, Third Duke of Buckingham, 1478-1521 by Barbara Jean Harris (Stanford University Press, 1986), page 141:

    Whatever the early Tudors' feelings about being dependent on private retinues of this sort, they had little choice, given the limited financial resources of their government. As late as 1536, Sir John Thimbleby "assembled all his tenaunts, frendes and servantes together under the colour to do the kinges service," and then employed them in the Pilgrimage of Grace.

    From The Letters and Speeches of Oliver Cromwell, With Elucidations by Thomas Carlyle, 1845, chapter III, "Of the Cromwell Kindred":

    Richard or Sir Richard Cromwell, great-grandfather of Oliver [the] Protector, was a man well known in his day; had been very active in the work of suppressing monasteries; a righthand man to Thomas the Mauler [Thomas Cromwell, called Malleus Monachoroum, Mauler of Monasteries]: and indeed it was on Monastic Property, chiefly or wholly, that he had made for himself a sumptuous estate in those Fen regions. Now, of this Richard Cromwell there are two Letters to Thomas Cromwell, 'Vicar-General,' Earl of Essex, which remain yet visible among the Manuscripts of the British Museum; in both of which he signs himself with his own hand, 'your most bounden Nephew,' -- an evidence sufficient to set the point at rest. Copies of the Letters are in my possession; but I grudge to inflict them on the reader. One of them, the longer of the two, stands printed, with all or more than all its original misspelling and confused obscurity, in Noble: it is dated 'Stamford,' without day or year; but the context farther dates it as contemporary with the Lincolnshire Rebellion, or Anti-Reformation riot, which was directly followed by the more formidable 'Pilgrimage of Grace' in Yorkshire to the like effect, in the autumn of 1536. Richard, in company with other higher official persons, represents himself as straining every nerve to beat down and extinguish this traitorous fanatic flame, kindled against the King's Majesty and his Reform of the Church; has an eye in particular to a certain Sir John Thymbleby in Lincolnshire, whom he would fain capture as a ringleader; suggests that the use of arms should be prohibited to these treasonous populations, except under conditions; -- and seems hastening on, with almost furious speed; towards Yorkshire and the Pilgrimage of Grace, we may conjecture.

    [Carlyle's footnote to the above:] This first letter is in the Harley MSS. (vol. 283, f. 156). It is clearly written in a clerk's hand, and the only "obscurity" about it is that a good many contractions are employed, but they are used quite regularly. From its connexion with other letters of the same period, it must have been written on October 14, 1536. Sir John Thimbleby did not need capturing, as he had "come in" a day or two before.

    About the Pilgrimage of Grace:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage_of_Grace

    From Records of the English Province of the Society of Jesus, Vol. V, by Henry Foley, S.J. (London: Buyrns and Oates, 1879), footnote, page 600:

    Mr. Peacock in his Yorkshire Catholics, pp. 12, 13, mentions several of this family as recusants (1604). He says of Mr John Thimbleby [Thimelby] of Normanton parish: "This was a member of an old Lincolnshire family. They were originally of Poolham manor, near Horncastle; but subsequently, by the marriage of Richard Thimbleby with Elizabeth, sister and co-heiress of Sir Godfrey Hilton of Irnham, that estate came into the family. They were always Roman Catholics. At the restoration of the old faith under Mary, Mrs. Elizabeth Thimbleby, a nun, lent a cope and a chasuble to the church of Irnham, which were reclaimed by Mr. John Thimbleby on the accession of Elizabeth. The John Thimbleby mentioned in the text was probably the grandson of the above. The male line of the Lincolnshire Thimblebys ended in 1712, on the death of another John Thimbleby of Irnham. His heiress, Mary, had married Thomas Clifford [Gifford] of Chillington, county Stafford. The estate passed out of her descendants' hands by sale a few years ago."

    John married Margaret Boys before 1507. Margaret (daughter of John Boys) was born in in of Conesby, West Halton, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Richard Thimbleby was born about 1507 in of Irnham, Lincolnshire, England; died on 25 Sep 1590 in Irnham, Lincolnshire, England.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Richard Thimbleby was born in in of Holton in le More, Lincolnshire, England (son of Richard Thimbleby); died on 24 Apr 1522.

    Notes:

    According to "Among the Royal Servants," this Richard Thimbleby and the Richard Thimbleby given as his father (b. abt. 1445) might be the same person. The same source notes that he died holding Holton in le More plus Irnham, Belesby, and Horsington.

    "In 1489 he was made exempt for life from being put on assizes and from being made assessor 'on trustworthy testimony that he suffers from internal ulcers caused by his horse running with him against an oak.'" [Royal Ancestry]

    Richard married Elizabeth Hilton. Elizabeth (daughter of Godfrey Hilton and Margery Willoughby) was born about 1454-1455; died between 1496 and 1522. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Elizabeth Hilton was born about 1454-1455 (daughter of Godfrey Hilton and Margery Willoughby); died between 1496 and 1522.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1455
    • Alternate death: Aft 1495
    • Alternate death: Aft 1509

    Children:
    1. Anne Thimbleby died after 1536.
    2. 1. John Thimbleby was born in 1482 in of Irnham, Lincolnshire, England; died before 25 Jun 1550.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Richard Thimbleby was born about 1445 in of Holton in le More, Lincolnshire, England (son of Richard Thimbleby and Margaret Belesby).

    Notes:

    According to "Among the Royal Servants," this Richard Thimbleby and the individual given here as his son (d. 1522) might be the same person.

    Children:
    1. 2. Richard Thimbleby was born in in of Holton in le More, Lincolnshire, England; died on 24 Apr 1522.

  2. 6.  Godfrey Hilton was born on 9 Nov 1419 in of Irnham, Lincolnshire, England (son of Godfrey Hilton and Hawise Luttrell); died on 18 May 1472.

    Godfrey married Margery Willoughby in 1453. Margery (daughter of Hugh Willoughby and Margaret Freville) was born in in of Wollaton, Nottinghamshire, England; died on 14 Nov 1495. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 7.  Margery Willoughby was born in in of Wollaton, Nottinghamshire, England (daughter of Hugh Willoughby and Margaret Freville); died on 14 Nov 1495.
    Children:
    1. 3. Elizabeth Hilton was born about 1454-1455; died between 1496 and 1522.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Richard Thimbleby was born in in of Holton in le More, Lincolnshire, England (son of Richard Thimbleby); died about 1465.

    Notes:

    Alnager. "An alnager's job was to measure and weigh lengths of finished woolen cloth and then affix a seal for customs purposes." ["Among the Royal Servants"]

    Richard married Margaret Belesby. Margaret (daughter of William Belesby) died before 1474. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Margaret Belesby (daughter of William Belesby); died before 1474.
    Children:
    1. 4. Richard Thimbleby was born about 1445 in of Holton in le More, Lincolnshire, England.

  3. 12.  Godfrey Hilton was born in in of Swine, Skirlaugh, Yorkshire, England (son of Robert de Hilton and Isabel); died on 5 Aug 1459.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Ellerton, Yorkshire, England
    • Alternate birth: of Irnham, Lincolnshire, England

    Notes:

    Knight of the shire for Lincolnshire, May 1421. Accompanied Henry V on his first expedition to Normandy in 1415, leading a retinue of 40 men-at-arms and 120 archers. In 1419 he was with Thomas Beaufort, duke of Exeter, at the siege of Rouen; many further military adventures are set forth in his History of Parliament entry.

    Godfrey married Hawise Luttrell before May 1416. Hawise (daughter of Andrew Luttrell and Joan Tailboys) was born about 1393; died on 24 Mar 1422 in Irnham, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 13.  Hawise Luttrell was born about 1393 (daughter of Andrew Luttrell and Joan Tailboys); died on 24 Mar 1422 in Irnham, Lincolnshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 24 Mar 1420

    Children:
    1. 6. Godfrey Hilton was born on 9 Nov 1419 in of Irnham, Lincolnshire, England; died on 18 May 1472.

  5. 14.  Hugh Willoughby was born about 1380 in of Wollaton, Nottinghamshire, England (son of Edmund Willoughby and Isabel Annesley); died between 1448 and 1454; was buried in Willoughby On The Wolds, Nottinghamshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Buried: Willoughby on the Wolds, Nottinghamshire, England
    • Alternate death: Aft 15 Sep 1448
    • Alternate death: 15 Nov 1448

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire 1430-1; Sheriff of Lincolnshire 1438-9.

    Hugh married Margaret Freville before 23 May 1418. Margaret (daughter of Baldwin de Freville and Maud le Scrope) was born between 1400 and 1401; died on 8 Jan 1493. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 15.  Margaret Freville was born between 1400 and 1401 (daughter of Baldwin de Freville and Maud le Scrope); died on 8 Jan 1493.
    Children:
    1. 7. Margery Willoughby was born in in of Wollaton, Nottinghamshire, England; died on 14 Nov 1495.
    2. Isabel Willoughby died after 1470.