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Baldwin de Freville

Male Abt 1349 - 1387  (~ 38 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Baldwin de Freville was born Abt 1349, of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England (son of Baldwin de Freville and Ida de Clinton); died 30 Dec 1387.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1351
    • Alternate death: 1388

    Baldwin married Joyce Botetourte Bef 1368. Joyce (daughter of John Botetourte and Joyce la Zouche) was born Abt 1348; died 12 Aug 1420. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Baldwin de Freville was born , of Tamworth, Staffordshire, England; died 4 Oct 1400.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Baldwin de Freville was born 15 Aug 1317, of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England (son of Baldwin de Freville and Elizabeth de Montfort); died 23 Mar 1375.

    Notes:

    He was "continuously employed" in Edward III's wars in France.

    Baldwin married Ida de Clinton Bef 6 Jun 1346. Ida (daughter of John de Clinton and Margery Corbet) died Bef 1368. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Ida de Clinton (daughter of John de Clinton and Margery Corbet); died Bef 1368.
    Children:
    1. 1. Baldwin de Freville was born Abt 1349, of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England; died 30 Dec 1387.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Baldwin de Freville was born Abt 1292, of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England (son of Alexander de Freville and Joan de Cromwell); died 3 Oct 1343, Overseas.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1293
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1299

    Notes:

    Fought on the rebel side at the Battle of Boroughbridge, 1322, according to CP II, appendix C. The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz states that he was captured in the battle.

    Baldwin married Elizabeth de Montfort 31 May 1311. Elizabeth (daughter of John de Montfort and Alice de la Plaunche) died Aft 1367. [Group Sheet]


  2. 5.  Elizabeth de Montfort (daughter of John de Montfort and Alice de la Plaunche); died Aft 1367.
    Children:
    1. 2. Baldwin de Freville was born 15 Aug 1317, of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England; died 23 Mar 1375.

  3. 6.  John de Clinton was born Abt 1300, of Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England (son of John de Clinton and Ida de Odingsells); died Bef 1 Apr 1335.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Bef 1301, of Amington in Tamworth, Warwickshire, England

    Notes:

    "John de Clinton, 2nd Baron Clinton; fought with the royal army which defeated Edward II's cousin Thomas, Earl of Lancaster at Battle of Boroughbridge 16 March 1321/2, knighted by 1324." [Burke's Peerage]

    "He and his brother, William, were squires in the household of Queen Isabel of France, wife of King Edward II, in 1311-12." [Royal Ancestry]

    "John de Clinton, 2nd Lord Clinton, b. c 1300, d. c 1335; m. by 24 Feb 1328/9, Margaret Corbet, daughter of Sir William Corbet of Chaddesley Corbet, co. Worcester. She was living 1343. John de Clinton, 2nd Lord Clinton was son & heir of John de Clinton (son and heir of Thomas de Clinton by Maud, daughter of Sir Ralph Bracebridge of Kinsbury, co. Worcester), b. c 1258, d. 1310, 1st Lord Clinton; m. c 1290 Ida, daughter of Sir William de Odingsells of Maxstoke by Ela, daughter of Walter Fitz Robert. She was 1st daughter, b. c 1270, living 1321." [Ancestral Roots]

    "John (de Clinton), Lord Clinton, son and heir born probably in, or shortly before 1300. He fought, 16 March 1321/2, ex parte Regis, at Boroughbridge. Knighted before 1324. From 27 January 1331/2 to 1 April 1335, he was summoned to Parliament, the words 'Mortuus est' being added to the last writ. He married, before 24 February 1328/9, Margery, daughter of Sir William Corbet, of Chaddesley Corbet, co. Worcester. He died about 1335. His widow was living May 1343." [Complete Peerage III:313]

    John married Margery Corbet Bef 7 Apr 1325. Margery (daughter of William Corbet) was born , of Chaddesley Corbet, Worcestershire, England; died Aft 14 May 1343. [Group Sheet]


  4. 7.  Margery Corbet was born , of Chaddesley Corbet, Worcestershire, England (daughter of William Corbet); died Aft 14 May 1343.
    Children:
    1. 3. Ida de Clinton died Bef 1368.
    2. John de Clinton was born Abt 13 Apr 1328, of Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England; died 6 Sep 1398; was buried , Haversham, Buckinghamshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Alexander de Freville was born Abt 1259, of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England (son of Baldwin de Freville and Maud Giffard); died 1 Mar 1328.

    Alexander married Joan de Cromwell. Joan (daughter of Ralph de Cromwell and Mazera Marmion) died Bef 27 Oct 1339. [Group Sheet]


  2. 9.  Joan de Cromwell (daughter of Ralph de Cromwell and Mazera Marmion); died Bef 27 Oct 1339.
    Children:
    1. Margaret de Freville
    2. 4. Baldwin de Freville was born Abt 1292, of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England; died 3 Oct 1343, Overseas.

  3. 10.  John de Montfort was born Abt 1265, of Beaudesert, Warwickshire, England (son of Peter de Montfort and Maud de la Mare); died Bef 11 May 1296.

    Notes:

    Summoned to Parliament by writ dated 24 Jun 1295.

    John married Alice de la Plaunche Bef 28 Mar 1287. Alice (daughter of William de la Plaunche and Ælide) died Aft 1302. [Group Sheet]


  4. 11.  Alice de la Plaunche (daughter of William de la Plaunche and Ælide); died Aft 1302.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1303
    • Alternate death: Aft 1308
    • Alternate death: Aft 1309

    Notes:

    From Chris Phillips, Some Corrections and Additions to The Complete Peerage:

    Alice was a kinswoman of Queen Eleanor, presumably through a descent of her father from the queen's Fiennes cousins [J. C. Parsons, The Court and Household of Eleanor of Castile in 1290 (Toronto, 1977), pp. 48-50]. John and Alice were married by 28 March 1287 [ibid., p. 50, citing P.R.O. SC 1/45/46], and Alice was still living in Easter Term 1309 [M. S. Arnold, ed., Select Cases of Trespass from the King's Court, 1307-1399, vol. 1 (Selden Society 100, 1985), pp. 126, 127].

    Alice is one of a group of four "damsels" of the chamber who appear frequently throughout Queen Eleanor's wardrobe account book for 1289-90 and in one entry are described as kinswomen of the queen. That Alice's kinship came through her father is indicated by a reference in 1286 to the lord (dominus) de la Plaunche as a kinsman of the queen [Parsons, loc. cit., p. 50, citing P.R.O. E 101/352/4, m. 4]. A descent from the queen's Fiennes cousins is suggested by the later presence of a family known as "de Fiennes de la Plaunche" in the Boulonnais, bearing arms similar to those of the Fiennes family.

    Children:
    1. 5. Elizabeth de Montfort died Aft 1367.
    2. Peter de Montfort was born , of Beaudesert, Warwickshire, England; died Between 11 Dec 1367 and 24 Jan 1370.

  5. 12.  John de Clinton was born Abt 1258, of Amington in Tamworth, Warwickshire, England (son of Thomas de Clinton and Maud Bracebridge); died 1310.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1258, of Amington in Tamworth, Warwickshire, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 7 Jan 1311

    Notes:

    Knight of the shire for Warwickshire, 1300; Constable of Wallingford Castle; Seneschal of Ponthieu.

    "John de Clinton, 1st Baron Clinton, so created according to later doctrine by writ of summons to Parliament 6 Feb 1298/9 (though never again thereafter); the peerage is heritable by heirs general, which can include females); Lord of the Manor of Maxstoke, Warwicks, through his wife; served Scottish and French Wars of Edward I, MP Warwicks 1300-01, Constable of Wallingford Castle 1308." [Burke's Peerage]

    "John de Clinton (son and heir of Thomas de Clinton by Maud, daughter of Sir Ralph Bracebridge of Kinsbury, co. Worcester), b. c 1258, d.1310, 1st Lord Clinton; m. c 1290 Ida, daughter of Sir William de Odingsells of Maxstoke by Ela, daughter of Walter Fitz Robert. She was 1st daughter, b. c 1270, living 1321." [Ancestral Roots]

    "John de Clinton, of Amington and Maxstoke, co. Warwick, 2nd but 1st surviving son and heir of Thomas de Clinton, of Amington (died v.p., before 1264), by Maud, daughter of Sir Ralph Bracebridge, of Kinsbury, co. Warwick, was born probably in 1258. He served, or was called upon to serve, in the Scottish and French wars. He was summoned to Parliament 6 February 1298/9 by writ directed Johanni de Clinton, whereby he is held to have become Lord Clinton. He was never again so summoned. He was 2 years later (12 March 1300/1), summoned with more than a thousand others cum equis et armis, being then denominated as of Maxstoke. He appears to have been Knight of the shire for co. Warwick 1300-01. Constable of Wallingford Castle, 1308." [Complete Peerage III:312-13]

    [footnote in CP to the above:] "The name is said to be from the manor of Glinton, afterwards Clinton, Northants near Market Deeping, but the Clintons were Oxfordshire people as early as 1230. In N. & Q., 7th Series, vol.viii, p. 486, it is stated that the 1st Earl of Lincoln 'obtained a grant of this very district of Glinton,' no doubt because of the similarity of name. Lower, in his Family Names, states it to be "from Glimpton, anciently written Clinton, co. Oxford. The founder of the family, Geoffrey de Clinton, Treasurer and Chamberlain to King Henry I, is said, by Ordericus (who, as a contemporary, probably can be trusted), to have been of mean parentage, though, according to some accounts he was of the noblest Norman extraction."

    Knight of the shire for Warwickshire. Constable of Wallingford Castle. Seneschal of Ponthieu.

    John married Ida de Odingsells Aft 29 Sep 1286. Ida (daughter of William de Odingsells and Ela fitz Walter) was born Abt 1265, of Solihull, Warwickshire, England; died Aft 1 Mar 1322. [Group Sheet]


  6. 13.  Ida de Odingsells was born Abt 1265, of Solihull, Warwickshire, England (daughter of William de Odingsells and Ela fitz Walter); died Aft 1 Mar 1322.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1270
    • Alternate death: Aft 8 Apr 1325

    Notes:

    Dugdale's Monasticon Anglicanum (1846) says that this Ida, widow of John de Clinton, was a prioress of Wroxhall and died in 1300. VCH Warwick 2 says that "Lady Isabel Clinton" succeeded Agnes as prioress of Wroxhall and died in 1325. The register of Thomas Cobham, Bishop of Worcester, 1317-1327, names "the noble lady Ysabella de Clyntone" as one of the several parties to a dispute he adjudicated at Wroxhall in 1323, but says nothing about Isabel becoming prioress, nor anything to identify her as the Ida who was the widow of John de Clinton who died in 1311. Additionally, while several records exist of the widow Ida in the 1320s, none of them make any reference to her being at Wroxhall, as a prioress or not. As John Watson pointed out on SGM, 8 and 9 Sep 2017, the likeliest solution to the above is that Dugdale was mistaken, and that the Clinton widow of Wroxhall priory was someone else, perhaps the otherwise-unknown widow of John de Clinton of Coleshill who died in 1316.

    "He [John Clinton] married, probably about 1290, Ida, sister and coheir of Edmund d'Odingsells, 1st daughter of William d'Odingsells, of Maxstoke, by Ela, daughter of Walter Fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, with whom he acquired the Lordship and Castle of Maxstoke and other considerable possessions. He died late in 1310. His widow accompanied the Queen Consort to France in 1312-13. She, who was born about 1270, was living 1 March 1321/2." [Complete Peerage III:12-13]

    Douglas Richardson in a post to SGM, 27 Sep 2001, adds a first husband for Ida:

    From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@msn.com)
    Subject: Ida de Odingsells's Herdeburgh and Clinton Marriages: Further Evidence
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2001-09-27 08:31:32 PST

    Dear Newsgroup:

    Two days ago I announced the discovery that Ida de Odingsells, a descendant of King Henry II, married (lst) Roger de Herdeburgh (died c. 1284), by whom she had a daughter, Ela de Herdeburgh, who left many descendants. Previously Ida was only known to have had a marriage about 1290 to John de Clinton, 1st Lord Clinton (died c. 1310). Following my post, Rosie Bevan kindly provided a citation which confirmed that Roger de Herdeburgh's wife was in fact named Ida.

    Since my first post, I've located an informative article on the Herdeburgh family which appeared in Norfolk Archaeology, 30 (1952): 19-25. That article cites two documents, one dated 1284, the other 1286, which establish beyond doubt that Roger de Herdeburgh's wife was named Ida and that Ida, as Roger's widow, held the manor of Prilleston, Norfolk (a Herdeburgh manor) following his death. The article further states that Prilleston was eventually conveyed by Ida de Herdeburgh's heirs to her grandson, Walter de Hopton, Knt. This confirms that that Prilleston stayed in the family past Ida's death about 1328.

    As for other evidence that widow Ida de Herdeburgh married John de Clinton, I found elsewhere that Prilleston, Norfolk was held in 1316 by "Idonia de Clynton" [Reference: Feudal Aids, 6 (1920): 478]. Idonia de Clynton can be none other than Ida de Clinton, then a widow for the second time.

    Best always,
    Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Children:
    1. William de Clinton was born , of Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England; died 24 Aug 1354.
    2. 6. John de Clinton was born Abt 1300, of Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England; died Bef 1 Apr 1335.

  7. 14.  William Corbet was born , of Chaddesley Corbet, Worcestershire, England.
    Children:
    1. 7. Margery Corbet was born , of Chaddesley Corbet, Worcestershire, England; died Aft 14 May 1343.