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Joyce Botetourte

Female Abt 1348 - 1420  (~ 72 years)


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Joyce Botetourte was born Abt 1348 (daughter of John Botetourte and Joyce la Zouche); died 12 Aug 1420.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 13 Aug 1420

    Notes:

    Shown in Ancestral Roots, lines 98, 216, and 230A, as born 1367/68 -- clearly impossible if, as shown in both AR and Royal Ancestry, her son Baldwin was born in 1368.

    Her parents were married by the end of May 1347, so we're assuming that what Weis et al. meant was 1347/48.

    Joyce married Baldwin de Freville Bef 1368. Baldwin (son of Baldwin de Freville and Ida de Clinton) was born Abt 1349, of Tamworth, Warwickshire, England; died 30 Dec 1387. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. Baldwin de Freville was born , of Tamworth, Staffordshire, England; died 4 Oct 1400.

    Joyce married Adam de Peshale Aft 25 May 1388. Adam (son of Adam de Peshale and Joan de Eyton) died 26 Oct 1419. [Group Sheet]


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  John Botetourte was born Between 1317 and 1318, of Weoley, Northfield, Worcestershire, England (son of Thomas Botetourt and Joan de Somery); died 1385; was buried , Halesowen Abbey, Worcestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1318, of Upton, Norfolk, England
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1318
    • Alternate death: 4 Apr 1386

    Notes:

    "John (de Botetourt), Lord Bortetourt, grandson and h., being s. and h. of Thomas de B., by Joan (living 18 Jan. 1326/7), da. of Roger de Somery, sister (and coh. of the considerable estates) of John [Lord] Somery, which Thomas de B. was s. and h. ap. of the late Lord, and d. v.p., in 1322. He, who was aged 4 in Aug. 1322, and 7 in Dec. 1324, had livery of his lands (1341) 14 Edw. III, having had livery (though then a minor) of his mother's lands 16 July 1338. He distinguished himself in the French wars. He was sum. to Parl. from 25 Feb. (1342) 16 Edw. III to 3 Feb. (1385) 9 Ric. II. [...] He m., [...], before 31 May 1347, Joyce, da. of William Zouche, formerly Mortimer [Lord Zouche of Mortimer]. She was living 4 May 1372. [...] He d. 1385, and was bur. at Halesowen, when any Barony which may be held to have been cr. by writ, became dormant, but the right thereto, according to modern doctrine, would appear to have devolved, as under. Will, as Lord of Weologh, pr. 1386 at Lambeth." [Complete Peerage II:235, as corrected by Volume XIV.]

    Even subsequent to the corrections in Volume XIV, CP is still mistaken in claiming (in passages replaced above by ellipses) that this John Botetourt had as his 1st wife Maud de Grey, daughter of John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield. Details here.

    John married Joyce la Zouche Bef 31 May 1347. Joyce (daughter of William la Zouche and Alice de Tony) died Aft 4 May 1372. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Joyce la Zouche (daughter of William la Zouche and Alice de Tony); died Aft 4 May 1372.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1375

    Notes:

    Also called Joyce de Mortimer.

    Children:
    1. 1. Joyce Botetourte was born Abt 1348; died 12 Aug 1420.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Thomas Botetourt was born , of Upton, Norfolk, England (son of John Botetourt and Maud fitz Thomas); died Bef 28 Jul 1322.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Essex, England
    • Alternate death: Aug 1322

    Thomas married Joan de Somery Bef 1318. Joan (daughter of Roger de Somery and Agnes) died Aft 1325. [Group Sheet]


  2. 5.  Joan de Somery (daughter of Roger de Somery and Agnes); died Aft 1325.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 18 Jan 1327
    • Alternate death: Bef 12 Feb 1338

    Children:
    1. Maud Botetort died 14 Sep 1391, Shirland, Derbyshire, England.
    2. 2. John Botetourte was born Between 1317 and 1318, of Weoley, Northfield, Worcestershire, England; died 1385; was buried , Halesowen Abbey, Worcestershire, England.

  3. 6.  William la Zouche was born , of Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England (son of Robert de Mortimer and Joyce la Zouche); died 28 Feb 1337; was buried , Tewkesbury Abbey, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England.

    Notes:

    Formerly William de Mortimer. Also called William la Zouche Mortimer.

    Justice in Eyre for forest pleas in Essex; Joint Keeper of Caerphilly Castle; Keeper of Glamorgan and Morganno; Chanberlain of Cardiff; Keeper of the Tower of London; Justice of the Forest South of Trent.

    Summoned to Parliament by writ from 26 Dec 1323 to 14 Jan 1337.

    William married Alice de Tony Aft 26 Oct 1316. Alice (daughter of Ralph VII de Tony and Mary) was born Abt 1283; died 1 Jan 1325. [Group Sheet]


  4. 7.  Alice de Tony was born Abt 1283 (daughter of Ralph VII de Tony and Mary); died 1 Jan 1325.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 8 Jan 1325

    Children:
    1. 3. Joyce la Zouche died Aft 4 May 1372.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  John Botetourt (son of Guy Botetourt and Ada); died 25 Nov 1324.

    Notes:

    Or Buteturte; Boutecourte; Botecourt; Butecourt.

    "In 1294 when the king faced the threat of French galleys raiding the south coast of England, he appointed two household knights, William de Leybourne and John Botetourt, as captain and sub-captain of the fleet. In the following year they were described as admirals--the first use of the term in England. In 1296 he commanded 94 ships taken from ports between Harwich and King's Lynn, the great majority from Yarmouth." [Royal Ancestry]

    "He was summoned to Parliament from 13 July 1305 to 13 Sep. 1324, by writs directed Johanni Botetourt, whereby he may be held to have become Lord Botetourt." [Royal Ancestry]

    "A distinguished soldier; Gov. of St. Briavel's Castle, co. Gloucester, 1291; Adm. for the Northern Seas 1294-97, and again 1315. He was one of the Barons who signed the letter to the Pope in 1301, and was sum. to Parl. from 13 July (1305) 33 Edw. I to 13 Sep. (1324) 18 Edw. II, by writs directed Johanni Botetourt, whereby he may be held to have become Lord Botetourt. Gov. of Framlingham Castle, 1314. He joined in the rebellion of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, and fought at Boroughbridge, 16 Mar. 1321/2, for which he was fined £1,000, and was pardoned 8 Oct. 1322. He m., probably soon after 1 July 1285, when she was a minor, certainly before June 1292, Maud, sister and h. of Otes Fitz Thomas, being da. of Thomas Fitz Otes, of Mendelsham, Suffolk, by Betarice, 3rd da. and coh. of William de Beauchamp, feudal Lord of Bedford. He d. 25 Nov 1324. His widow was living 28 May 1329." [Complete Peerage II: 233-35]

    He has been claimed by some (including CP volume XIV) as an illegitimate son of Edward I. William Addams Reitwiesner comments here. A useful overview of diverse opinions is here. If you have an NEHGS membership, F. N. Craig's "The Parentage of John Boutetourt (died 1324)" (The American Genealogist 63:3, July 1988, p. 145), which established the prevailing modern view that John Botetourt was a son of Guy Botetourt, can be read here.

    John married Maud fitz Thomas Bef Jun 1282. Maud (daughter of Thomas fitz Otes and Beatrice de Beauchamp) was born 1269; died Bef 27 Nov 1328. [Group Sheet]


  2. 9.  Maud fitz Thomas was born 1269 (daughter of Thomas fitz Otes and Beatrice de Beauchamp); died Bef 27 Nov 1328.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1271
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1269-1272
    • Alternate death: Aft 28 May 1329

    Notes:

    Also called Maud (or Matilda) Fitz Otto, Fitz Otes, etc.

    "As a descendant of Otto the goldsmith, she held the hereditary serjeantry of the Cutter of the Dies, whose duty was to supervise die production in London for distribution to the many regional mints. [...John de Boutetourt] died in 1324. [...Maud] survived and in 1329 sold the office of graver and worker of the dies in the Tower of London and the city of Canterbury which was held in chief, to William Le Latymer (Calendar of Patent Rolls, Edward III 1:391), who had married her daughter Elizabeth. [F. N. Craig, "Descent from a Domesday Goldsmith." The American Genealogist 65:1, January 1990, p. 24.]

    Children:
    1. 4. Thomas Botetourt was born , of Upton, Norfolk, England; died Bef 28 Jul 1322.
    2. Otes Botetourt was born , of Mendlesham, Suffolk, England; died 11 Nov 1345.
    3. Ada Botetourt died Bef 31 May 1349.
    4. Elizabeth Botetourt died 11 Apr 1384.

  3. 10.  Roger de Somery was born 24 Jun 1255, of Dinas Powys, Glamorgan, Wales (son of Roger de Somery and Amabil de Chaucombe); died Bef 12 Oct 1291.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 24 Jun 1255, of Dudley, Worcestershire, England

    Roger married Agnes. Agnes died Bef 23 Nov 1308. [Group Sheet]


  4. 11.  Agnes died Bef 23 Nov 1308.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 23 Nov 1308
    • Alternate death: Bef 24 Nov 1308

    Children:
    1. 5. Joan de Somery died Aft 1325.
    2. Margaret de Somery was born Abt 1290; died Between 1328 and 1337.

  5. 12.  Robert de Mortimer was born Abt 1252, of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England (son of Hugh de Mortimer); died 7 Apr 1287; was buried 8 Apr 1287, Worcester Cathedral, Worcestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1252, of Norton, Northamptonshire, England

    Robert married Joyce la Zouche Bef 1273. Joyce (daughter of William la Zouche and Maud de Howbridge) died Bef 13 Mar 1290; was buried 13 Mar 1290. [Group Sheet]


  6. 13.  Joyce la Zouche (daughter of William la Zouche and Maud de Howbridge); died Bef 13 Mar 1290; was buried 13 Mar 1290.
    Children:
    1. 6. William la Zouche was born , of Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England; died 28 Feb 1337; was buried , Tewkesbury Abbey, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England.

  7. 14.  Ralph VII de Tony was born Abt 1255, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England (son of Roger V de Tony and Alice de Bohun); died 27 May 1295, Gascony, France.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 29 Jul 1295, Gascony, France
    • Alternate death: Bef 29 Jul 1295, Paris, France

    Ralph married Mary Bef 1276. Mary died Aft 1283. [Group Sheet]


  8. 15.  Mary died Aft 1283.

    Notes:

    "[P]robably a Scotswoman." [Ancestral Roots]

    Children:
    1. 7. Alice de Tony was born Abt 1283; died 1 Jan 1325.