Nielsen Hayden genealogy
William III de Warenne
Abt 1119 - Abt 1148 (~ 29 years)-
Name William III de Warenne [1] Alternate birth 1118 [2] Birth Abt 1119 Warwick, Warwickshire, England [3, 4, 5, 6] Gender Male Death Abt 7 Jan 1148 Laodicea, Anatolia [7, 8] Person ID I10475 Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of DGH, Ancestor of DK, Ancestor of EK, Ancestor of JMF, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LD, Ancestor of LMW, Ancestor of TNH Last Modified 30 Sep 2020
Father William II de Warenne, b. Abt 1071 d. 11 May 1138 (Age ~ 67 years) Mother Isabel de Vermandois d. Bef Jun 1147 Marriage Aft 5 Jun 1118 [4, 6, 9] Family ID F4959 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Ela of Ponthieu, b. of Alencon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France d. 4 Oct 1174 Children + 1. Isabel de Warenne d. Aft Apr 1203 + 2. (Unknown daughter of William de Warenne) Family ID F2692 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 4 Jan 2016
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Notes - Earl of Surrey.
"Slain when the rear guard of the French king's army was cut to pieces in Laodicea." [Royal Ancestry]
Peter Stewart, on soc.genealogy.medieval, 5 Sep 2019:
In CP vol xii part 1, p. 497 William [III de Warenne] is stated to have died on 19 January 1147/8 "when the rearguard of the French King's army was cut to pieces in the defiles of Laodicea". This was the battle at Cadmos mountain, when Louis VII had to fight his way to safety after being separated from his guard including William, Gaucher II of Châtillon & Montjay and Evrard III of Breteuil, who were killed.
However, the battle took place ca 7 January, certainly before 19th which was the date given without citing any authority by George Watson in The Genealogist (1895), referenced in CP as "G. W. Watson in Genealogist, N.S., vol. xi, p. 132, and authorities there cited". Odo of Deuil, who was present, said that the battle took place on the day after the king's army set off from Laodicea, and they had stayed there only a few days after arriving on 3 or 4 January.
Jonathan Phillips in his chronology in The Crusades, 1095–1204, second edition (2014), p xvii, placed the battle definitely on 7 January, but other historians have estimated 6 or 8 of the same month.
- Earl of Surrey.
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