Juetta de Arches

- Aft 1209

• Name	Juetta de Arches  [1, 2]
  Gender	Female
  Death	Aft 1209  [3, 4]
  Alternate death	Bef 1213  [5]
  Person ID	I10969	Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of DGH, Ancestor of DK, Ancestor of EK, Ancestor of GFS, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of LD, Ancestor of LMW, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK, Ancestor of UKL, Ancestor of WPF
  Last Modified	28 May 2018

  
  

  Father	William de Arches   d. Aft 1153
  Family ID	F5869	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	Roger de Flamville   d. Bef 21 Apr 1169
  Children	+ 1. Maud de Flamville
  Family ID	F8937	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	28 May 2018

  
  

  Family 2	Adam II de Brus,   b. 1134, of Skelton, Yorkshire, England d. 1196 (Age 62 years)
  Marriage	Aft 1169  [1, 5]
  Children	+ 1. Isabel de Brus,   b. of Skelton, Yorkshire, England d. Aft 1230 + 2. Peter de Brus,   b. of Skelton, Yorkshire, England d. 1222
  Family ID	F6405	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	13 Dec 2015

  
  

• Notes

  Early Yorkshire Families (citation details below) says that Roger de Flamville was Juetta's second husband, and claims that her first husband was the earlier Adam de Brus who died in 1142 or 1143. But this creates a number of chronological problems. For instance, if Juetta married the older Adam de Brus, their daughter Isabel (wife of Henry de Percy, d. 1198) could not have been born later than ca. 1143, and would thus have been at least 103 years old when she died in 1246. It seems vastly more plausible that Juetta's first husband was Roger de Flamville, who died in 1169, and her second husband was the younger Roger de Brus who died in 1196. In this model, the estimated birth dates and known death dates of all her children by both husbands make much more sense.

  
  

• Sources

  [S325] Rosie Bevan, 6 Jun 2002, post to soc.genealogy.medieval. [S991] Early Yorkshire Families ed. Charles Travis Clay and Diana E. Greenway. Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1973. [S328] Rosie Bevan, 9 Jun 2002, post to soc.genealogy.medieval. [S890] Cristopher Nash, 8 Jun 2002, post to soc.genealogy.medieval. [S142] Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families by Douglas Richardson. Salt Lake City, 2013.