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Juetta de Arches

Female - Aft 1209


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  • Name Juetta de Arches  [1, 2
    Gender Female 
    Died Aft 1209  [3, 4
    Alternate death Bef 1213  [5
    Person ID I10969  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestors of JTS, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK
    Last Modified 28 May 2018 

    Father William de Arches,   d. Aft 1153 
    Family ID F5869  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Roger de Flamville,   d. Bef 21 Apr 1169 
    Children 
    +1. Maud de Flamville
    Last Modified 28 May 2018 
    Family ID F8937  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Adam II de Brus,   b. 1134, of Skelton, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1196  (Age 62 years) 
    Married Aft 1169  [1, 5
    Children 
    +1. Isabel de Brus,   b. of Skelton, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1230
    +2. Peter de Brus,   b. of Skelton, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1222
    Last Modified 13 Dec 2015 
    Family ID F6405  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Early Yorkshire Families (citation details below) says that Roger de Flamville was Juetta's second husband, and claims that her first husband was the earlier Adam de Brus who died in 1142 or 1143. But this creates a number of chronological problems. For instance, if Juetta married the older Adam de Brus, their daughter Isabel (wife of Henry de Percy, d. 1198) could not have been born later than ca. 1143, and would thus have been at least 103 years old when she died in 1246. It seems vastly more plausible that Juetta's first husband was Roger de Flamville, who died in 1169, and her second husband was the younger Roger de Brus who died in 1196. In this model, the estimated birth dates and known death dates of all her children by both husbands make much more sense.

  • Sources 
    1. [S325] Rosie Bevan, 6 Jun 2002, post to soc.genealogy.medieval.

    2. [S991] Early Yorkshire Families ed. Charles Travis Clay and Diana E. Greenway. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1973.

    3. [S328] Rosie Bevan, 9 Jun 2002, post to soc.genealogy.medieval.

    4. [S890] Cristopher Nash, 8 Jun 2002, post to soc.genealogy.medieval.

    5. [S142] Royal Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson. Kimball G. Everingham, ed. 2013.