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John de Neville

Male Abt 1330 - 1388  (~ 58 years)


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  • Name John de Neville  [1
    Born Abt 1330  [2
    Gender Male 
    Alternate birth Abt 1331  [1
    Alternate birth Between 1337 and 1340  [3
    Died 17 Oct 1388  Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5
    Buried Durham Cathedral, Durham, Durham, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Person ID I11514  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestors of JTS, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW
    Last Modified 29 Apr 2018 

    Father Ralph de Neville,   b. Abt 1291, of Raby, Durham, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Aug 1367  (Age ~ 76 years) 
    Mother Alice de Audley,   b. Abt 1300,   d. 12 Jan 1374, Greystoke, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 74 years) 
    Married Aft 14 Jan 1327  [2, 3, 5, 6, 7
    Family ID F2990  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Maud Percy,   b. Abt 1345, Alnwick, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 18 Feb 1379  (Age ~ 34 years) 
    Married Bef 1362  [3
    Children 
    +1. Eleanor Neville,   d. Aft 1441
    +2. Thomas Neville,   d. 14 Mar 1407
    +3. Ralph de Neville,   b. Between 1364 and 1367,   d. 21 Oct 1425, Raby Castle, Durham, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 61 years)
    Last Modified 9 Dec 2018 
    Family ID F577  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • "John (de Neville), Lord Neville, son and heir (a), had writs of livery of his father's lands in England and Scotland, after doing homage, October 1367. He was a captain under his father at the battle of Nevill's Cross, 17 October 1346, and was knighted about April 1360. His life of public service was as active as his father's. He served in Aquitaine, 1366 and the following years, and numerous commissions issued to him, December 1367 onwards. In 1368 (September, October) he was joint ambassador to France. K.G. 1369. In 1369 and 1371 trier of petitions in Parliament; Admiral of the North, July 1370, and in November following joint commissioner to treat with Genoa; steward of the King's household, 1372. In July 1372 he sailed for Brittany on an expedition protracted for want of reinforcements. He was then for several years engaged in Scotland and the Marches. In December 1377 he had a patent of the keepership of Bamburgh Castle for life; and in 1378 licence to castellate Raby and Sheriff Hutton in 1382. He was made keeper of Fronsac Castle, on the Dordogne, 3 June, and Seneschal of Gascony in June 1378. Returning to England, he became Warden of the Marches (as above), and in 1381 conservator of the peace, co. Durham and Sedbergh; joint commissioner to treat of peace with Scotland, May 1383 and March 1386/7. In July 1385 he was under orders to accompany the King to Scotland." [Complete Peerage]

      "He was presumably of age when a recognizance was made to him in January 1351/2. His age of 40 and more at his mother's death on 13 Jan. 1373/4 supports this conclusion." [The Ancestry of Charles II, citation details below.]

      John de Neville and Maud Percy were great-grandparents of Edward IV and Richard III, making them the most recent common ancestors of TNH and Elizabeth II:

      John de Neville (1330-1388) = Maud Percy (d. 1379)
      Ralph de Neville (1364-1425) = Joan Beaufort (1379-1440)
      Cecily Neville (1415-1495) = Richard of York (1411-1460)
      Edward IV (1442-1483) = Elizabeth Woodville (1437-1492)
      Elizabeth of York (1466-1503) = Henry VII (1457-1509)
      Margaret Tudor (1489)-1541) = James IV (1473-1513)
      James V (1512-1542) = Mary of Guise (1515-1560)
      Mary, Queen of Scots (1542-1587) = Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley (1545-1567)
      James VI and I (1566-1625) = Anne of Denmark (1574-1619)
      Elizabeth of Bohemia (1596-1662) = Frederick V of the Palatine (1596-1632)
      Sophia of Hanover (1630-1714) = Ernest Augustus, Elector of Brunswick-L√ľneberg (1629-1698)
      George I (1660-1727) = Sophia Dorothea of Celle (1666-1726)
      George II (1683-1760) = Caroline of Ansbach (1683-1737)
      Frederick, Prince of Wales (1707-1751) = Augusta of Saxe-Gotha (1719-1772)
      George III (1738-1820) = Charlotte of Mecklenburg (1744-1818)
      Edward, Duke of Kent and Strathearn (1767-1820) = Victoria of Saxe-Coburg (1786-1861)
      Victoria (1819-1901) = Albert of Saxe-Coburg (1819-1861)
      Edward VII (1841-1910) = Alexandra of Denmark (1844-1925)
      George V (1865-1936) = Mary of Teck (1867-1953)
      George VI (1895-1952) = Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (1900-2002)
      Elizabeth II (1926- )

      boldface: monarchs of England, Great Britain, or the United Kingdom
      italic: monarchs of Scotland
      boldface & italic: James IV and I, king of both

      TNH is therefore 19th cousin once removed to Elizabeth II, no doubt sharing that distinction with literally hundreds of millions of other people.

  • Sources 
    1. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.

    2. [S1480] The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage by Charles M. Hansen and Neil D. Thompson. Saline, Michigan: McNaughton and Gunn, 2012.

    3. [S142] Royal Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson. Kimball G. Everingham, ed. 2013.

    4. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Full citation details here., year only.

    5. [S1016] Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell by Carl Boyer III. Santa Clarita, California, 2001.

    6. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Full citation details here.

    7. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008., "1326/7".