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Idoine de Clifford

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  • Name Idoine de Clifford  [1
    Born of Appleby, Westmorland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Female 
    Alternate birth Abt 1303  Clifford Castle, Herefordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Died 24 Aug 1365  [2, 3, 4, 5
    Buried Beverley Minster, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 5
    Person ID I13  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestors of JTS, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2018 

    Father Robert de Clifford,   b. Abt 1 Apr 1274,   d. 24 Jun 1314, Bannockburn, Stirlingshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 40 years) 
    Mother Maud de Clare,   d. 1 Feb 1325 
    Married 13 Nov 1295  [1, 2, 3, 4
    Family ID F282  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Henry de Percy,   b. 1299,   d. 26 Feb 1352, Warkworth, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 53 years) 
    Married Abt 1318  [6
    Children 
    +1. Isabel Percy,   d. Between 13 Sep 1349 and 25 May 1368
    +2. Eleanor de Percy,   d. Bef 18 Oct 1361
    +3. Henry de Percy,   b. Between 1322 and 1325, of Alnwick, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 18 May 1368, Warkworth, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 46 years)
    +4. Maud Percy,   b. Abt 1345, Alnwick, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 18 Feb 1379  (Age ~ 34 years)
    Last Modified 23 Jan 2019 
    Family ID F3344  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
      Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:11:50 -0800 (PST)
      Subject: Re: Looking for primary source documents on Idonia [Imania] de Clifford
      Reply-To: Douglas Richardson

      Dear Steve ~

      The correct name of Henry de Percy's wife is Idoine de Clifford. "Idonia" or "Idonea" are the Latin forms of her name and should be avoided.

      The parentage of Idoine de Clifford is hardly elusive as you imagine. There are no less than five separate visitations/medieval sources which name Idoine, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, as a Clifford, or the daughter of Lord Clifford:

      1. Archaeologia Aeliana 3 (1844): 40 (Chronicles of Alnwick Abbey: "Iste Henricus disponsavit idoneam filiam Domini de Clyfford et genuit ex ea Anno Domini 1320 Henricum quartum et tertium Dominum de Alnewyk et alios plures filios et filias inter quos erat Thomas qui postea fuit Episcopus Norwicens ...").

      2. Atkinson, Cartularium Abbathiæ de Whiteby 2 (Surtees Soc. 72) (1881): 690-696 (Percy ped.: "The fourth Henry Lord Percy ... gat on Idonea Clyfford Henry, William, Richard, Maude, Alianour Fitzwater, Roger, and Margarett that was maried to the Erle of Angus Sonne and his heire.").

      3. Flower, Vis. of Yorkshire 1563-4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 241-244 (Percy ped.: "Henry 4 Lord Percy. = Ida doughter of the Lord Clyfford.").

      This item is available online at the following weblink:

      books.google.com/books?id=pjMEAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA242

      4. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 3 (Surtees Soc. 144) (1930): 18-20 (Percy ped.: "Henricus Percy = Idonea Clifforde").

      This item is available online at the following weblink:

      www.uiowa.edu/~c030149a/northern/surtees144text.pdf

      5. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 4 (Surtees Soc. 146) (1932): 17-24 (Lassels ped.: "Idonæ [Clifford] mar: to Henry lord Percy").

      This item is available online at the following weblink:

      www.uiowa.edu/~c030149a/northern/surtees146text.pdf

      Given that we know that Sir Henry Percy was born in 1300 or 1301, and given that Henry's son and heir, also named Henry, was born about
      1322-5, the birth of Idoine de Clifford would necessarily have to fall about 1300-1310. Given the chronology, Idoine de Clifford can be placed as a daughter of Robert de Clifford (died 1314), 1st Lord Clifford, and his wife, Maud de Clare, which Robert and Maud were married in 1295. Idoine de Clifford was surely named for her father's maternal aunt, Idoine de Vipont (died 1333), wife of Roger de Leybourne, Knt., and John de Cromwell, Knt., Lord Cromwell.

      For interesting references to Idoine, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, see the following weblinks:

      books.google.com/books?id=1MUwhOPhfKcC&pg=PA116&dq=Idoine+Percy

      books.google.com/books?lr=&id=8AMhAAAAMAAJ&dq=Idoine+Percy&q=Idoine&pgis=1#search_anchor

      books.google.com/books?id=RzUdAAAAIAAJ&q=Idoine+Percy&dq=Idoine+Percy&lr=&pgis=1

      books.google.com/books?id=cu8i2yausLcC&pg=PA124&dq=Idoine+Percy&lr=

      The tomb at Beverley Minster, Yorkshire which is now attributed to Idoine de Clifford, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, bears shields with various coats of arms, among them Clifford.

      Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

      On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:15:21 AM UTC-7, The Hoorn wrote:

      So far, I have been unsuccessful in locating any primary or contemporaneous records, documenting the parentage of Idonia [Imania] de Clifford, as the daughter of Lord Robert Clifford (killed in battle Bannockburn 24 Jun 1314) and Matilda de Clare. Idonia was also the wife of Sir Henry Percy (1301-1352).

      I would sincerely welcome any assistance.

      Thanks!

  • Sources 
    1. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Full citation details here.

    2. [S142] Royal Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson. Kimball G. Everingham, ed. 2013.

    3. [S1016] Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell by Carl Boyer III. Santa Clarita, California, 2001.

    4. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.

    5. [S1480] The Ancestry of Charles II, King of England: A Medieval Heritage by Charles M. Hansen and Neil D. Thompson. Saline, Michigan: McNaughton and Gunn, 2012.

    6. [S1018] John Watson, 10 Feb 2016, post to soc.genealogy.medieval.