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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 11:11:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Looking for primary source documents on Idonia [Imania] de Clifford
Reply-To: Douglas Richardson
Dear Steve ~
The correct name of Henry de Percy's wife is Idoine de Clifford. "Idonia" or "Idonea" are the Latin forms of her name and should be avoided.
The parentage of Idoine de Clifford is hardly elusive as you imagine. There are no less than five separate visitations/medieval sources which name Idoine, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, as a Clifford, or the daughter of Lord Clifford:
1. Archaeologia Aeliana 3 (1844): 40 (Chronicles of Alnwick Abbey: "Iste Henricus disponsavit idoneam filiam Domini de Clyfford et genuit ex ea Anno Domini 1320 Henricum quartum et tertium Dominum de Alnewyk et alios plures filios et filias inter quos erat Thomas qui postea fuit Episcopus Norwicens ...").
2. Atkinson, Cartularium Abbathiæ de Whiteby 2 (Surtees Soc. 72) (1881): 690-696 (Percy ped.: "The fourth Henry Lord Percy ... gat on Idonea Clyfford Henry, William, Richard, Maude, Alianour Fitzwater, Roger, and Margarett that was maried to the Erle of Angus Sonne and his heire.").
3. Flower, Vis. of Yorkshire 1563-4 (H.S.P. 16) (1881): 241-244 (Percy ped.: "Henry 4 Lord Percy. = Ida doughter of the Lord Clyfford.").
This item is available online at the following weblink:
books.google.com/books?id=pjMEAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA242
4. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 3 (Surtees Soc. 144) (1930): 18-20 (Percy ped.: "Henricus Percy = Idonea Clifforde").
This item is available online at the following weblink:
www.uiowa.edu/~c030149a/northern/surtees144text.pdf
5. Harvey et al., Vis. of the North 4 (Surtees Soc. 146) (1932): 17-24 (Lassels ped.: "Idonæ [Clifford] mar: to Henry lord Percy").
This item is available online at the following weblink:
www.uiowa.edu/~c030149a/northern/surtees146text.pdf
Given that we know that Sir Henry Percy was born in 1300 or 1301, and given that Henry's son and heir, also named Henry, was born about
1322-5, the birth of Idoine de Clifford would necessarily have to fall about 1300-1310. Given the chronology, Idoine de Clifford can be placed as a daughter of Robert de Clifford (died 1314), 1st Lord Clifford, and his wife, Maud de Clare, which Robert and Maud were married in 1295. Idoine de Clifford was surely named for her father's maternal aunt, Idoine de Vipont (died 1333), wife of Roger de Leybourne, Knt., and John de Cromwell, Knt., Lord Cromwell.
For interesting references to Idoine, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, see the following weblinks:
books.google.com/books?id=1MUwhOPhfKcC&pg=PA116&dq=Idoine+Percy
books.google.com/books?lr=&id=8AMhAAAAMAAJ&dq=Idoine+Percy&q=Idoine&pgis=1#search_anchor
books.google.com/books?id=RzUdAAAAIAAJ&q=Idoine+Percy&dq=Idoine+Percy&lr=&pgis=1
books.google.com/books?id=cu8i2yausLcC&pg=PA124&dq=Idoine+Percy&lr=
The tomb at Beverley Minster, Yorkshire which is now attributed to Idoine de Clifford, wife of Sir Henry de Percy, bears shields with various coats of arms, among them Clifford.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
On Wednesday, December 24, 2014 1:15:21 AM UTC-7, The Hoorn wrote:
So far, I have been unsuccessful in locating any primary or contemporaneous records, documenting the parentage of Idonia [Imania] de Clifford, as the daughter of Lord Robert Clifford (killed in battle Bannockburn 24 Jun 1314) and Matilda de Clare. Idonia was also the wife of Sir Henry Percy (1301-1352).
I would sincerely welcome any assistance.
Thanks!
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