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Joan

Female - 1409


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  • Name Joan  
    Gender Female 
    Died 20 Sep 1409  [1
    Alternate death 1413  [2
    Person ID I21641  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK
    Last Modified 24 Sep 2020 

    Family Richard Chamberlain,   b. of Coates in Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Between 14 Sep 1391 and 2 Nov 1391 
    Children 
    +1. Richard Chamberlain,   b. of Petsoe, Buckinghamshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Aug 1396
    +2. Anne Chamberlain
    Last Modified 8 Dec 2018 
    Family ID F12425  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • F. N. Craig (citation details below) says that the Richard Chamberlain who died in 1391 married first, Margaret ———; second, by 1346, Katherine de la Dale, daughter and heir of Thomas de Berkele of Wolostone, Northamptonshire; and third, Joanna ———, "who at her death in 1413 was named as widow of Richard Chamberlain, 'chivaler'." He does not positively identify any of these three wives as the mother of his son Richard Chamberlain who died in 1396, but it seems likely that it was the third of them, Joanna. According to Craig, in 1327 Richard Chamberlain is recorded as married to Margaret———. In 1346 he is seen married to Katherine de la Dale. "In 1356 the overlord, Henry, Earl of Lancaster, granted Wolostone to the College of St. Mary, which suggests that Katherine had died without issue." In 1379 "he had license for the alienation of his manor of Stanbridge to Richard his son and Margaret his son's wife." If the second wife, Katherine de la Dale, did indeed die childless, then his son Richard must have been by the third wife, Joanna, because if Richard had been a son by the first wife, he would have been between 26 and 45 years older than his wife, Margaret Lovaine.

      The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz (citation details below) positively asserts that the younger Richard was a daughter of Joan whom the older Richard "married 3rdly". It further says that she was possibly a daughter of Sir Thomas Reynes of Clifton Reynes, Buckinghamshire, d. bef. 1368, knight of the shire for Buckinghamshire 1343, 1344, and 1346, and his wife Joan who was alive in 1354. "The Visitation of Oxfordshire in 1566 and 1574, VOX: 235, names the wife of Richard Chamberlain, No. 1016, as 'Jana' [Jane or Joan], daughter of John Reynes, of Clifton Reynes. Since there was no John as lord of the manor at that time, the identification may apply to Thomas, who had a daughter named Joan living in 1354."

  • Sources 
    1. [S1526] The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Wife of Reverend John Owsley, Generations 1-15, Fourth Preliminary Edition, by Ronny O. Bodine and Bro. Thomas Spalding, Jr. 2013.

    2. [S4443] F. N. Craig, "Chamberlains in the Ancestry of the Marbury Sisters." The Genealogist 13:189, Fall 1999.