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John de Stanley

Male - Aft 1313


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  • Name John de Stanley 
    Born of Stanley, Staffordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Died Aft 1313  [1
    Person ID I21655  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of TSW
    Last Modified 4 Aug 2018 

    Father William de Stanley,   b. of Stanley, Staffordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Between 1311 and 1326 
    Mother Joan de Baumville,   b. 1264,   d. Aft 1325  (Age > 62 years) 
    Married 27 Sep 1282  Astbury Church, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Family ID F6234  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
    +1. William de Stanley,   b. of Stanley, Staffordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jun 1398
    Last Modified 3 Jan 2018 
    Family ID F13339  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Hereditary forester of Wirral, Cheshire. Ormerod gives, as his wife, "Mabel, dau. of sir James de Hausket of Storeton Parva, knt." According to Wikitree, the book The House of Stanley by Peter Edmund Stanley (Edinburgh: The Pentland Press, 1998) argues against this and suggests an alternative. We have not seen this book, but the Wikitree page for this John Stanley summarizes its argument as follows:

      "[T]his cannot be, as from 1300-50 Stourton Parva was held by heirs of Sir Phillip de Bamville (grandfather of John) and that there was no family surnamed Hauskett associated with Stourton Parva or Little Parva during this period.

      "The author further states that a charter dated 13 Feb 1310 (no further identification given) given at Sefton in Lancashire endows John with the manors of Stanleigh and Over Elkeston in Staffordshire to be held by the said John and his wife Emma. The witnesses were: Sir Robert de Lathom of Lathom and Knowsley, Sir Ralph Bykerstaffe (Sheriff of Lancashire), Alan Norris of Formby and Speke, Thomas de Osbaldeston, William Blundel and Roger de Haverburgh.

      "Stanley suggests Emma may have been a Molyneux because of the location of the Charter, but ultimately decides she was a daughter of Sir Robert de Lathom, because when John Stanley's grandson Sir John Stanley married Isabel de Lathom in 1385, a papal dispensation was obtained owing to the prohibitive degree of consanguinity 'third cousins once removed' (Ormerod)."

  • Sources 
    1. [S1526] The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Wife of Reverend John Owsley, Generations 1-15, Fourth Preliminary Edition by Ronny O. Bodine and Bro. Thomas Spalding, Jr. 2013.

    2. [S77] The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester by George Ormerod. Second edition, revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby. London: George Routledge and Sons, 1882.