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John de Hastings

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  • Name John de Hastings 
    Born of Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Alternate birth 6 May 1262  Allesley, Warwickshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3, 4, 5, 6
    Died 10 Feb 1313  [2, 5, 6
    Alternate death 20 Feb 1313  Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 4
    Alternate death 5 Apr 1325  [3
    Alternate death 10 May 1325  [3
    Buried Grey Friars, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Person ID I2577  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK
    Last Modified 9 Jan 2018 

    Father Henry de Hastings,   b. of Ashill, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1268 
    Mother Joan de Cantelowe,   b. of Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1269 
    Married Bef 1262  [3
    Family ID F2263  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Isabel de Valence,   d. 3 Oct 1305 
    Married Aft 15 Jul 1275  [3, 7
    Children 
    +1. Elizabeth de Hastings
    Last Modified 11 Mar 2017 
    Family ID F260  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Isabel le Despenser,   d. 4 Dec 1334 
    Married Bef 1309  [3, 8
    Children 
    +1. Hugh de Hastings,   b. Abt 1310, of Sutton Scotney, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 Jul 1347  (Age ~ 37 years)
    Last Modified 29 Apr 2018 
    Family ID F108  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Hereditary Steward of the liberties of the Abbey of Bury St. Edmunds. Seneschal of Aquitaine. Lieutenant & Seneschal of Gascony. "[I]n 1292 claimed third part of Kingdom of Scotland as a gr. s. of Ada, 4th dau. & coh. of David, Earl of Huntingdon; claim rejected." [Ancestral Roots]

      CP I:23, footnote (a): George de Cantelou's heirs to the honor of Abergavenny "were his sister Millicent, then of full age and wife of Eudes la Zouche, and his nephew John, the next owner of Abergavenny."

      Summoned to Parliament by writs dated 24 Jun 1295 to 8 Jul 1312.

      "Sir John de Hastinges, of Abergavenny, s. and h., b. 6 May 1262, at Allesley, co. Warwick. On 12 July 1283 the King took his homage, and he had livery of his father's lands, and also of his purparty of the lands of George de Cantelou, namely, the castle and honour of Abergavenny, co. Monmouth, the castle of Kilgerran, co. Pembroke, of the lands of St. Clear, co. Carmarthen, Aston, co. Warwick, Barwick, Little Marston, and Stoford, Somerset, and Badmondisfield, Suffolk. In Jan. 1283/4 he was about to go to Scotland. He was on the King's service in Wales in 1287. In 1292 he claimed a third part of the Kingdom of Scotland, as grandson and h. of Ada, 4th da. and coh. of David, Earl of Huntingdon: his claim was rejected by the judgment delivered at Berwick Castle, on Monday after St. Martin [17 Nov.]. In Jan. 1296/7 he was about to go to Brabant, by the King's command, in attendance on Margaret, the King's da., Duchess of Brabant. He was in the Army of Scotland in 1300, being at the siege of Caerlaverock in July the same year. On 2 Feb. 1300/1 he had licence to crenellate his manor and town of Fillongley, co. Warwick. He was sum. for Military Service from 26 June (1294) 22 Edw. I to 18 June (1310) 3 Edw. II to attend the Coronation, 18 Jan. (1307/8) I Edw. II, to a Council 8 Jan. (1308/9) 2 Edw. II, and to Parl. from 24 June (1295) 23 Edw. I to 8 July (1312) 6 Edw. II, by writs directed Johanni de Hastingges, and moreover is recorded to have been present in pleno parliamento domini Regi: on the morrow of Trinity 18 Edw. I [29 May 1290] with other magnates et proceres tunc in parliamento existentes, whereby he is held to have become Lord Hastinges. As Johannes de Hastinges Dominus de Bergeveni he took part in the Barons' Letter to the Pope, 12 Feb. 1300/1. On 23 Aug. 1302 he was appointed Lieutenant and Seneschal of Gascony, during pleasure: he held the office till Aug. or Sep. 1104. On 22 May 1306 the King granted to him and his heirs the county of Menteith (except the land in that county which the King had previously granted to Edmund de Hastinges), forfeited by Alan, late Earl of Menteith, the King's rebel and enemy. On 15 Mar. 1308/9 he had licence to grant, in fee, to John, his son, the manor of Aston Cantlow, the castle and town of Kilgerran, and other lands in Wales. He was re-appointed Lieutenant and Seneschal of Gascony, 24 Oct. 1309, during pleasure, and on 16 Nov. following had licence to set out from Dover with his household, horses, armour, silver vessels, &c.; he surĀ­rendered his office in the latter half of 1311. He m., firstly, at Braxted, Essex or Blunham, Beds, Isabel, da. of William (de Valnce), Earl of Pembroke, by Joan, da. of Sir Warin de Munchanesy, of Swanscombe, Kent, Winfarthing and Gooderstone, Norfolk, &c. She d. 5 Oct. 1305, and was bur. in Coventry Priory. He m., 2ndly, Isabel, da. of Hugh (le Despenser), Earl lf Winchester, by Isabel, da. of William (de Beauchamp), Earl of Warwick. He d. 10 Feb. 1312/3. His widow had livery of her dower, 11 Apr. 1313, and of the knights' fees and advowsons of her dower, 20 Nov. following, all of which had been assigned to her by the King. She m., 2ndly, as 2nd wife, Sir Ralph de Mounthermer, sometime Earl of Gloucester: as royal licence had not been obtained for this marriage, on 20 Nov. 1318 and again on 2 Jan. following, the lands they held in dower were taken into the King's hand. They were pardoned and their lands were restored to them, 12 Aug. 1319, for a fine of 1,000 marks: which also they were pardoned on 18 May 1321. She had charge of two of the King's daughters from Michaelmas 1324. Ralph d. 5 Apr. 1325, and was bur. in the Church of the Grey Friars at Salisbury, aged 63. Will pr. and enrolled, Monday before St. Margaret 1325, in the Court of Husting, London. She d. 4. or 5 Dec. 1334." [Complete Peerage VI:346-39]

  • Sources 
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    8. [S1016] Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell by Carl Boyer III. Santa Clarita, California, 2001., says "before 1308".