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John fitz Gilbert

Male Bef 1109 - Bef 1165  (< 56 years)


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  • Name John fitz Gilbert  [1, 2, 3
    Born Bef 1109  of Cherhill, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Gender Male 
    Died Bef 29 Sep 1165  [3, 4, 5
    Person ID I365  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2018 

    Father Gilbert,   d. Abt 1130 
    Family ID F3561  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Sybil de Salisbury 
    Children 
    +1. (Unknown) Marshal
    +2. William Marshal,   b. Abt 1146,   d. 14 May 1219, Caversham, Oxfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 73 years)
    Last Modified 15 Apr 2016 
    Family ID F6304  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Aline Pipard,   b. of Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    SEPA Abt 1141  [6
    Last Modified 30 Dec 2015 
    Family ID F1566  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 3 Alice de Coleville 
    Children 
    +1. Juliane Marshal,   d. Bef 1248
    +2. John le Marshal,   b. of Chirton, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 27 Jun 1235
    Last Modified 3 Dec 2018 
    Family ID F2198  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Also called John the Marshal.

      Wikipedia:

      "John FitzGilbert the Marshal of the Horses [...] was a minor Anglo-Norman nobleman during the reign of King Stephen, and fought in the 12th century civil war on the side of Empress Matilda. Since at least 1130 and probably earlier, he had been the royal marshal to King Henry I. When Henry died, John FitzGilbert swore for Stephen and was granted the castles of Marlborough and Ludgershall, Wiltshire during this time. Along with Hamstead Marshal, this gave him control of the valley of the River Kennet in Wiltshire. Around 1139, John changed sides and swore for the Empress Matilda. In September 1141, Matilda fled the siege of Winchester and took refuge in the Marshal's castle at Ludgershall. While covering her retreat from Winchester, John Marshal was forced to take refuge at Wherwell Abbey. The attackers set fire to the building, and John lost an eye to dripping lead from the melting roof.

      "In 1152, John had a celebrated confrontation with King Stephen, who had besieged him at Newbury Castle. After John had broken an agreement to surrender, Stephen threatened to kill his son, whom John had given as a hostage. John refused, saying he could make more sons, but Stephen apparently took pity on the young boy and did not kill him. The boy grew up to be William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke, a legendary figure in medieval lore, and one of the most powerful men in England."

  • Sources 
    1. [S789] The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry, by Vernon James Watney. Oxford, 1928.

    2. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008.

    3. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Full citation details here.

    4. [S142] Royal Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson. Kimball G. Everingham, ed. 2013.

    5. [S977] The Blackmans of Knight's Creek: Ancestors and Descendants of George and Maria (Smith) Blackman by Henry James Young. Carlisle, Pennsylvania: 1980., year only.

    6. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Full citation details here., "He is said to have repudiated her circa 1141".