John Chichester

1365 - Bef 1399  (< 33 years)

• Name	John Chichester  [1]
  Born	1365	of Raleigh in Pilton, Devon, England   [2, 3]
  Gender	Male
  Died	Bef 1399  [3, 4]
  Person ID	I8057	Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TWK
  Last Modified	12 Sep 2021

  
  

  Family	Thomasine Raleigh,   d. 7 Aug 1402
  Married	1384  [3, 5]
  Children	+ 1. John Chichester,   b. 1386, of Raleigh in Pilton, Devon, England ,   d. 14 Dec 1437  (Age 51 years)
  Last Modified	12 Sep 2021
  Family ID	F4642	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  "John I Chichester married in about 1365 Thomasine de Raleigh (d.1402), daughter and heiress of Sir John De Raleigh. He was lord of the manors of Treverbin in Cornwall and of Beggerskewish and Donwer in Somerset. According to Sir Alexander Chichester, Bart., he was the son of Sir Roger Chichester, who was knighted in 1346 at the Siege of Calais and later fought at the Battle of Poitiers in 1356. According to the Heralds' Visitation of Devon his father was John Chichester, 7th in descent from Walleran de Cirencester alias Chichester, himself descended from a brother of Robert of Chichester, Bishop of Exeter in 1155-1160. According to the Ledger Book of Tor Abbey, in 1237 Walleran did homage to William de Raleigh for the manor of South Pool." [Wikipedia] In fact, of the three different published heralds' visitations of Devon, only one says anything about the John Chichester who married Thomasine Raleigh -- J. L. Vivian's notoriously squirrely The Visitations of the County of Devon, Comprising the Heralds' Visitations of 1531, 1564, & 1620 (1895). What Wikipedia doesn't mention is that Vivian gives both possible ancestries on the same page, "for comparison", the one in Alexander P. B. Chichester's book (citation details below), which he credits, and also the other, which he attributes to "Harl. MS. 1538, fo. 256, and the College of Arms." Alexander P. B. Chichester's is as follows: Richard de Cicester, went to the Holy Land with King Richard Robert de Cicester, m. Petronilla Richard de Cicester, brother of Robert de Cicester, bishop of York; Richard m. Elizabeth Roger de Cicester, accompanied Edward I to Gascony Roger de Cicester, in the French and Scottish wars with Edward III Roger de Cicester, knighted after the siege of Calais John Chichester, m. Thomasine Raleigh The College of Arms version is as follows, assuming that Vivian transcribed it correctly: Waleran to Cirencester alias Chichester, as described by Wikipedia above John de Cirencester John de Cirencester Thomas Chichester, m. Alice de Rotomago William Chichester John Chichester Richard Chichester John Chichester John Chichester, m. Thomasine Raleigh

  
  

• Sources

  [S699] The Visitations of the County of Devon, Comprising the Heralds' Visitations of 1531, 1564, & 1620, with additions by J. L. Vivian. Devon: 1895. [S3784] History of the Family of Chichester, from A. D. 1086-1870 by Alexander Palmer Bruce Chichester. London: J. C. Hotton, 1871., year only. [S413] Genealogy Page of John Blythe Dobson. [S145] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr. 8th edition, William R. Beall & Kaleen E. Beall, eds. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, 2006, 2008. [S3784] History of the Family of Chichester, from A. D. 1086-1870 by Alexander Palmer Bruce Chichester. London: J. C. Hotton, 1871.