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Robert de Thweng

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  • Name Robert de Thweng  [1
    Born of Thwing, Bridlington, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Male 
    Died Between 1245 and 1257  [2
    Alternate death Aft 17 Jun 1246  [3
    Person ID I8126  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of Barbara Hagan, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of TNH
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2018 

    Father Marmaduke de Thweng,   b. Bef 1178,   d. Abt 1230  (Age > 52 years) 
    Family ID F5766  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Maud de Kilton,   b. of Kilton Castle, Cleveland, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married Bef Jan 1229  [3, 4
    Children 
    +1. Marmaduke de Thweng,   b. of Kilton in Brotton, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Between 1282 and 1284
    Last Modified 9 Nov 2015 
    Family ID F3184  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Also known by the alias "William Wither."

      From the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:

      In 1231 he became conspicuous for his opposition to the Roman and Italian clergy who had received papal provision to churches in England. With the assistance of the archbishop of York, an Italian had been intruded to the church of Kirkleatham, the advowson of which Robert and his wife had recovered in 1230 following litigation against the prior of Guisborough. Robert adopted the alias William Wither, literally 'William the Angry'; he placed himself at the head of an armed agitation against the foreigners and about Easter 1232 pillaged their corn and barns and distributed the spoils among the poor. In response to complaints from the pope Henry III ordered the arrest of various leading courtiers who were implicated in these disturbances, including Hubert de Burgh (d. 1243), the chief justiciar, who is said to have lent tacit support to the 'Withermen' out of anger at a papal inquiry into the legality of his marriage. Thwing is later to be found witnessing a charter of Hubert's son, John de Burgh, but in 1232 there is nothing to suggest that Hubert and Thwing were in any way close associates. Thwing himself was sent by the king for absolution in Rome. In 1239 he made a second visit to Rome, carrying with him a general letter of complaint from the English barons. Perhaps through the influence of Richard, earl of Cornwall, to whose household Thwing had attached himself, he obtained letters from Pope Gregory IX (r. 1227-41) protecting the rights of lay patrons against papal provision. Early in the following year Thwing set out with Earl Richard on crusade. In September 1240, from Marseilles, he was sent as an envoy to the emperor, Frederick II (r. 1212-50), with information about the pope's attempts to delay the crusade. As a result, he may never have reached the Holy Land. In 1244 he was accused of making a violent attack upon a clerk of the archbishop of York in the king's hall at Windsor. His lands were seized, but restored the following year.

  • Sources 
    1. [S991] Early Yorkshire Families ed. Charles Travis Clay and Diana E. Greenway. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1973.

    2. [S76] The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (2004-ongoing).

    3. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Full citation details here.

    4. [S76] The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (2004-ongoing)., year only.