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Hugh de Say

Male - 1196


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  • Name Hugh de Say 
    Born of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Gender Male 
    Died Between 1195 and 1196  [2
    Alternate death Abt 1196  [1
    Alternate death Bef 29 Sep 1197  [3
    Person ID I9373  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestors of JTS, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2018 

    Father Hugh de Say,   b. of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 29 Sep 1190 
    Mother Lucy de Clifford,   b. of Clifford, Herefordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F4999  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Mabel Marmion,   d. Aft 1199 
    Children 
    +1. Margaret de Say,   b. of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 29 Sep 1242
    Last Modified 19 Sep 2018 
    Family ID F2077  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • "He was keeper of Norton Castle, in what is now co. Radnor, and fought under Richard I in Normandy in 1194. In 1195 he was in charge of the castle of Bleddfa in the March, now co. Radnor. In 1196 he and Roger de Mortimer of Wigmore were defeated near Radnor by the Welsh prince Rhys. He married Mabel, daughter of Robert Marmion. He was assessed to the third scutage of the army in Normandy in 1196, and seems to have been living in the early part of 1197, but d. s.p.m., before Michaelmas that year." [Complete Peerage]

  • Sources 
    1. [S789] The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry, by Vernon James Watney. Oxford, 1928.

    2. [S142] Royal Ancestry, by Douglas Richardson. Kimball G. Everingham, ed. 2013.

    3. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. Full citation details here.