Nielsen Hayden genealogy
Hugh de Say

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Name Hugh de Say Born of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England [1, 2]
Gender Male Died Between 1195 and 1196 [2] Alternate death Abt 1196 [1] Alternate death Bef 29 Sep 1197 [3] Person ID I9373 Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others | Ancestor of AP, Ancestor of DDB, Ancestor of JTS, Ancestor of TNH, Ancestor of TSW, Ancestor of TWK Last Modified 6 Jan 2018
Father Hugh de Say, b. of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England , d. Bef 29 Sep 1190
Mother Lucy de Clifford, b. of Clifford, Herefordshire, England Family ID F4999 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Mabel Marmion, d. Aft 1199 Children + 1. Margaret de Say, b. of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England , d. Bef 29 Sep 1242
Last Modified 21 Feb 2021 Family ID F2077 Group Sheet | Family Chart
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Notes - "He was keeper of Norton Castle, in what is now co. Radnor, and fought under Richard I in Normandy in 1194. In 1195 he was in charge of the castle of Bleddfa in the March, now co. Radnor. In 1196 he and Roger de Mortimer of Wigmore were defeated near Radnor by the Welsh prince Rhys. He married Mabel, daughter of Robert Marmion. He was assessed to the third scutage of the army in Normandy in 1196, and seems to have been living in the early part of 1197, but d. s.p.m., before Michaelmas that year." [Complete Peerage]
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Sources - [S789] The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry by Vernon James Watney. Oxford, 1928.
- [S142] Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson. Kimball G. Everingham, editor. 2013.
- [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant ed. Vicary Gibbs, H. A. Doubleday, Duncan Warrand, Howard de Walden, Geoffrey H. White and R. S. Lea. 2nd edition. 14 volumes (1-13, but volume 12 spanned two books), London, The St. Catherine Press, 1910-1959. Volume 14, "Addenda & Corrigenda," ed. Peter W. Hammond, Gloucestershire, Sutton Publishing, 1998.
- [S789] The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry by Vernon James Watney. Oxford, 1928.