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Elias de Say

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  • Name Elias de Say 
    Birth of Clun, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4
    Gender Male 
    Death 1165  [3
    Person ID I7652  Ancestry of PNH, TNH, and others
    Last Modified 6 Jan 2018 

    Father Henry de Say,   b. of Clun, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1130 
    Family ID F1099  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Children 
     1. Isabel de Say,   b. Abt 1132, of Clun, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Family ID F6170  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 25 Apr 2024 

  • Notes 
    • Also called Helias; Hellias; Ingram.

      "Helias de Say (died 1165), also called Hellias, was a Norman nobleman who lived in Clun near Shrewsbury, along the medieval Welsh Marches. He is believed to have inherited Clun Castle from his father, Henry de Say, in the reign of Henry I. Helias held the key fortification of Clun Castle during the years of the Anarchy. He was an important early benefactor of Haughmond Abbey. Upon his death, his only surviving child and heiress was Isabella de Say." [Wikipedia]

  • Sources 
    1. [S72] Chris Phillips, Some Corrections and Additions to The Complete Peerage.

    2. [S128] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant ed. Vicary Gibbs, H. A. Doubleday, Duncan Warrand, Howard de Walden, Geoffrey H. White and R. S. Lea. 2nd edition. 14 volumes (1-13, but volume 12 spanned two books), London, The St. Catherine Press, 1910-1959. Volume 14, "Addenda & Corrigenda," ed. Peter W. Hammond, Gloucestershire, Sutton Publishing, 1998.

    3. [S160] Wikipedia.

    4. [S152] Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166 by K. S. B. Keats-Rohan. Woodbridge, Suffolk: The Boydell Press, 2002.