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Ankaret le Boteler

Female - 1361


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Ankaret le Boteler died on 8 Oct 1361.

    Notes:

    "Ankaret (married 2nd Sir Thomas de Ferrers and died 8 Oct 1361), daughter of William Boteler, of Wem, Salop." [Burke's Peerage]

    Ankaret married John le Strange before 20 May 1327. John (son of Fulke le Strange and Eleanor Giffard) was born about 1306 in Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 21 Jul 1349. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Eleanor le Strange  Descendancy chart to this point died on 20 Apr 1396.
    2. 3. John le Strange  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 19 Apr 1332 in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 12 May 1361.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Eleanor le Strange Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ankaret1) died on 20 Apr 1396.

    Eleanor married Reynold de Grey before 31 Oct 1353. Reynold (son of Roger de Grey and Elizabeth de Hastings) was born about 1319 in of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 28 Jul 1388. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. Ida Grey  Descendancy chart to this point died on 1 Jun 1426; was buried in Cockayne Hatley, Bedfordshire, England.
    2. 5. Reynold Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1362 in of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 30 Sep 1440.

  2. 3.  John le Strange Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ankaret1) was born about 19 Apr 1332 in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 12 May 1361.

    John married Mary de Arundel before 1354. Mary (daughter of Edmund Fitz Alan and Alice de Warenne) died on 29 Aug 1396. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Ankaret le Strange  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1361; died on 1 Jun 1413.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Ida Grey Descendancy chart to this point (2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died on 1 Jun 1426; was buried in Cockayne Hatley, Bedfordshire, England.

    Ida married John Cokayne before 1394. John (son of John Cokayne and Cecily de Vernon) was born in in of Cockayne Hatley, Bedfordshire, England; died on 22 May 1429; was buried in Cockayne Hatley, Bedfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Elizabeth Cokayne  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1438.

  2. 5.  Reynold Grey Descendancy chart to this point (2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1362 in of Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 30 Sep 1440.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 18 Oct 1440

    Notes:

    Governor in Ireland; Privy Councillor to Henry IV.

    Summoned to Parliament by writs, 6 Dec 1389 to 26 Sep 1439.

    Reynold married Margaret de Ros after 25 Nov 1378. Margaret (daughter of Thomas de Ros and Beatrice de Stafford) was born in in of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died before 1415. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Elizabeth Grey  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1434.
    2. 9. Margaret Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1399; died after May 1426.

    Reynold married Joan Astley before 7 Feb 1415. Joan (daughter of William Astley and Joan de Willoughby) died on 3 Sep 1448. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. John Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Kempston, Bedfordshire, England; died on 8 Dec 1447.
    2. 11. Edward Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1415; died on 18 Dec 1457.
    3. 12. Robert Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1420 in of Whittington, Staffordshire, England; died before 20 Jun 1460.

  3. 6.  Ankaret le Strange Descendancy chart to this point (3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in 1361; died on 1 Jun 1413.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Between 1361 and 1362
    • Alternate death: 23 May 1413

    Ankaret married Richard Talbot before 23 Aug 1383. Richard (son of Gilbert Talbot and Pernel le Boteler) was born about 1361 in of Eccleswall in Linton, Herefordshire, England; died on 7 Sep 1396. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Mary Talbot  Descendancy chart to this point died on 13 Apr 1434; was buried in Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England.
    2. 14. John Talbot  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1392 in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 17 Jul 1453 in Castillon-sur-Dordogne, Gascony, France; was buried in St. Alkmund's, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

    Ankaret married Thomas Neville before 4 Jul 1401. Thomas (son of John de Neville and Maud Percy) died on 14 Mar 1407; was buried in Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]



Generation: 4

  1. 7.  Elizabeth Cokayne Descendancy chart to this point (4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died after 1438.

    Family/Spouse: Lawrence Cheyne. Lawrence (son of William Cheyne and Katherine Pabenham) was born about 1396 in of Fen Ditton, Cambridgeshire, England; died on 31 Dec 1461; was buried in Barnwell Priory, Cambridgeshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. Elizabeth Cheyne  Descendancy chart to this point died on 25 Sep 1473.

    Elizabeth married Philip le Boteler before 1412. Philip (son of Philip le Boteler and Elizabeth) was born about 1388 in of Watton Woodhall in Watton at Stone, Hertfordshire, England; died on 5 Nov 1420; was buried in Watton at Stone, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. Philip Boteler  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 15 Aug 1414 in of Watton Woodhall in Watton at Stone, Hertfordshire, England; died on 28 Jul 1453.

  2. 8.  Elizabeth Grey Descendancy chart to this point (5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died before 1434.

    Elizabeth married Robert Poynings before 22 Oct 1397. Robert (son of Richard de Poynings and Isabel Fitz Payn) was born on 3 Dec 1382 in Okeford Fitzpaine, Devon, England; died on 2 Oct 1446. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. Richard Poynings  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Poynings, Sussex, England; died on 10 Jun 1429 in near Orléans, France.

  3. 9.  Margaret Grey Descendancy chart to this point (5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1399; died after May 1426.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1426

    Margaret married William Bonville after 12 Dec 1414. William (son of John Bonville and Elizabeth Fitz Roger) was born on 12 Aug 1391 in Shute, Devon, England; died on 18 Feb 1461 in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. Elizabeth Bonville  Descendancy chart to this point died on 14 Feb 1491.
    2. 19. William Bonville  Descendancy chart to this point died on 31 Dec 1460 in Wakefield, Yorkshire, England.

  4. 10.  John Grey Descendancy chart to this point (5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in in of Kempston, Bedfordshire, England; died on 8 Dec 1447.

    John married Elizabeth before 5 Feb 1434. Elizabeth died after Dec 1447. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Alice Grey  Descendancy chart to this point died on 4 Apr 1474; was buried in Buckenham, Norfolk, England.

  5. 11.  Edward Grey Descendancy chart to this point (5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1415; died on 18 Dec 1457.

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth Ferrers. Elizabeth (daughter of Henry Ferrers and Isabel Mowbray) was born about 1419; died before 24 Jan 1483. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 21. Edward Grey  Descendancy chart to this point died on 17 Jul 1492.
    2. 22. John Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1432; died on 17 Feb 1461 in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England.

  6. 12.  Robert Grey Descendancy chart to this point (5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1420 in of Whittington, Staffordshire, England; died before 20 Jun 1460.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Enville, Staffordshire, England

    Robert married Eleanor Lowe before 1447. Eleanor (daughter of Humphrey Lowe and Alice Butnore) died after 1474. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 23. Humphrey Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1448 in of Enville, Staffordshire, England; died on 11 Dec 1499.

  7. 13.  Mary Talbot Descendancy chart to this point (6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) died on 13 Apr 1434; was buried in Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 13 Apr 1433

    Mary married Thomas Greene before 23 Oct 1398. Thomas (son of Thomas Greene and Margery Maplethorpe) was born in 1369 in of Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England; died on 14 Dec 1417; was buried in Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 24. Thomas Greene  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 10 Feb 1400 in Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England; died on 18 Jan 1462; was buried in Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England.

  8. 14.  John Talbot Descendancy chart to this point (6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1392 in of Blackmere, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 17 Jul 1453 in Castillon-sur-Dordogne, Gascony, France; was buried in St. Alkmund's, Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    "Old Talbot." Lord Strange of Blackmere. Count of Clermont, Marshal of France, Constable of Ireland, Privy councillor 1422 and 1443, Lord Justice of Ireland, and many other titles. Noted as the only Constable of France appointed by a king of England. Summoned to Parliament by writs, 26 Oct 1409 and after.

    Created Earl of Shrewsbury 20 May 1442. Created Earl of Waterford 17 Jul 1446.

    He was a major military commander of the Hundred Years' War, and was killed on the field at the Battle of Castillon, considered the last battle of that conflict. A monument to him was raised by the French generals who defeated him. His death in battle is portrayed in a painting by Charles-Philippe Larivière.

    He spent four years a prisoner in France, after Joan of Arc stopped his string of successes there at the battle of Pattay, 1429.

    He appears in Shakespeare's Henry IV, Part 1 as "valiant Lord Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury, Created, for his rare success in arms."

    John married Maud Neville before 8 Mar 1407. Maud (daughter of Thomas Neville and Joan Furnival) died in 1423; was buried in Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 25. John Talbot  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1413; died on 10 Jul 1460 in Northampton, Northamptonshire, England; was buried in Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire, England.

    John married Margaret de Beauchamp on 6 Sep 1425. Margaret was born in 1404; died on 14 Jun 1467; was buried in Jesus Chapel, St. Paul's, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 26. John Talbot  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1426; died on 20 Jul 1453 in Castillon-la-Bataille, Gironde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France.


Generation: 5

  1. 15.  Elizabeth Cheyne Descendancy chart to this point (7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died on 25 Sep 1473.

    Notes:

    Also spelled Cheney.

    Family/Spouse: Frederick Tilney. Frederick (son of Philip Tilney and Isabel Thorpe) was born about 1420 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 11 Nov 1446; was buried in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. Elizabeth Tilney  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1442; died on 4 Apr 1497.

    Family/Spouse: John Say. John was born in in of Baas, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 28. Ann Saye  Descendancy chart to this point died after 25 Feb 1484.

  2. 16.  Philip Boteler Descendancy chart to this point (7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born on 15 Aug 1414 in of Watton Woodhall in Watton at Stone, Hertfordshire, England; died on 28 Jul 1453.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1412

    Notes:

    Knight of the shire for Hertford, 1445-46, 1450-51. Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire, 1450-51.

    Philip married Isabel Willoughby about 1429. Isabel (daughter of Hugh Willoughby and Margaret Freville) died after 1470. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 29. John Boteler  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1435 in of Watton Woodhall in Watton at Stone, Hertfordshire, England; died before 1499; was buried in Watton at Stone, Hertfordshire, England.

  3. 17.  Richard Poynings Descendancy chart to this point (8.Elizabeth4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in in of Poynings, Sussex, England; died on 10 Jun 1429 in near Orléans, France.

    Notes:

    Knight of the shire for Sussex.

    Richard married Eleanor Berkeley after 8 Apr 1423. Eleanor (daughter of John Berkeley and Elizabeth Betteshorne) died on 1 Aug 1455. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 30. Eleanor Poynings  Descendancy chart to this point died on 11 Feb 1484.

  4. 18.  Elizabeth Bonville Descendancy chart to this point (9.Margaret4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died on 14 Feb 1491.

    Family/Spouse: William Tailboys. William (son of Walter Tailboys and (Unknown first wife of Walter Tailboys)) was born about 1415; died on 26 May 1464 in Sandhills, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England; was buried in Grey Friars Church, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. Robert Tailboys  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1441-1451 in of Kyme, Lincolnshire, England; died on 31 Jan 1494; was buried in Kyme Priory, Lincolnshire, England.

  5. 19.  William Bonville Descendancy chart to this point (9.Margaret4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died on 31 Dec 1460 in Wakefield, Yorkshire, England.

    Notes:

    Executed immediately following the Yorkist loss at the battle of Wakefield.

    William married Elizabeth Harington about 1442. Elizabeth died before 1458. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    William married Catherine Neville in 1458. Catherine (daughter of Richard Neville and Alice Montagu) was born about 1442; died between 22 Nov 1503 and 25 Mar 1504; was buried in Ashby de la Zouche, Leicestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 32. Cecily Bonville  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1460 and 1461; died on 12 May 1529 in Shacklewell, Hackney, Middlesex, England.

  6. 20.  Alice Grey Descendancy chart to this point (10.John4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died on 4 Apr 1474; was buried in Buckenham, Norfolk, England.

    Family/Spouse: William Knyvet. William (son of John Knyvet and Alice Lynne) was born between 1440 and 1441 in of Buckenham, Norfolk, England; died on 25 Nov 1515. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 33. Edmund Knyvet  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Buckenham, Norfolk, England; died in 1504 in At sea.

  7. 21.  Edward Grey Descendancy chart to this point (11.Edward4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died on 17 Jul 1492.

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth Talbot. Elizabeth (daughter of John Talbot and Joan Cheddar) was born in 1452 in Nutley, Sussex, England; died on 8 Sep 1487. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 34. Elizabeth Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1484; died after 10 Aug 1530.

  8. 22.  John Grey Descendancy chart to this point (11.Edward4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1432; died on 17 Feb 1461 in St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England.

    Notes:

    Killed in the Second Battle of St. Albans, fighting for the Lancastrians.

    John married Elizabeth Woodville, Queen Consort of England in 1452. Elizabeth (daughter of Richard Woodville and Jacquetta of Luxembourg) was born in 1437 in Grafton Regis, Northamptonshire, England; died on 8 Jun 1492 in Bermondsey Priory, Surrey, England; was buried on 12 Jun 1492 in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 35. Thomas Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1451; died on 20 Sep 1501.

  9. 23.  Humphrey Grey Descendancy chart to this point (12.Robert4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1448 in of Enville, Staffordshire, England; died on 11 Dec 1499.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Whittington, Staffordshire, England
    • Alternate birth: Bef 1449

    Family/Spouse: Anne Fielding. Anne (daughter of William Fielding and Agnes Seyton alias St. Liz) was born in in of Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England; died before 20 Oct 1507. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 36. Margery Grey  Descendancy chart to this point

  10. 24.  Thomas Greene Descendancy chart to this point (13.Mary4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born on 10 Feb 1400 in Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England; died on 18 Jan 1462; was buried in Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 10 Feb 1399, Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Northamptonshire 1441-42, 1455-56, 1457-58. Knight of the shire for Northamptonshire at the Parliament called to meet at Leicester on 18 Feb 1426.

    Thomas Greene and Philippa de Ferrers were fifth cousins, both being Gx4-grandchildren of Edward I and Eleanor of Castile.

    Thomas Greene = Philippa de Ferrers
    Thomas Greene (d. 1468) = Matilda Throckmorton (d. 1496)
    Thomas Greene (~1461-1506) = Joan Fogge (b. ~1466)
    Maud Green (1492-1531) = Thomas Parr (~1483-1517)
    Catherine Parr (1512-1548), last wife of Henry VIII

    Thomas married Philippa Ferrers before 16 Dec 1421. Philippa (daughter of Robert Ferrers and Margaret le Despenser) died after 6 Oct 1434; was buried in Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 37. Elizabeth Greene  Descendancy chart to this point

  11. 25.  John Talbot Descendancy chart to this point (14.John4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in 1413; died on 10 Jul 1460 in Northampton, Northamptonshire, England; was buried in Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire, England.

    Notes:

    2nd Earl of Shrewsbury. Chancellor of Ireland, 1446. Privy councillor, 1454. Lord High Treasurer, 1456-58. Master of the Falcons, 1457. Chief Butler of England, 1458. Chief Justice of Chester, 1459. Steward of the Town and Lordship of Ludlow, 1460.

    Along with his brother Christopher Talbot, he was killed at the battle of Northampton, fighting on the Lancastrian side.

    John married Elizabeth Butler before Mar 1445. Elizabeth (daughter of James le Boteler and Joan Beauchamp) was born on 21 Dec 1421; died on 8 Sep 1473; was buried in Shrewsbury Abbey, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 38. Gilbert Talbot  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1452 in of Grafton, Worcestershire, England; died on 16 Aug 1517; was buried in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

  12. 26.  John Talbot Descendancy chart to this point (14.John4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1426; died on 20 Jul 1453 in Castillon-la-Bataille, Gironde, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France.

    Notes:

    1st Viscount Lisle. Like his father, he died of wounds sustained in the Battle of Castillon, the last battle of the Hundred Years' War.

    Not to be confused with his father's son John Talbot (1413-1460), 2nd earl of Shrewsbury, who was by his father's first wife, Maud Nevill.

    Family/Spouse: Joan Cheddar. Joan was born about 1425; died on 15 Jul 1464. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 39. Elizabeth Talbot  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1452 in Nutley, Sussex, England; died on 8 Sep 1487.


Generation: 6

  1. 27.  Elizabeth Tilney Descendancy chart to this point (15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1442; died on 4 Apr 1497.

    Family/Spouse: Thomas Howard. Thomas (son of John Howard and Katherine de Moleyns) was born in 1443; died in 1507. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 40. Edmund Howard  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1478 and 1480; died in Mar 1539.
    2. 41. Elizabeth Howard  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1480; died on 3 Apr 1538.

    Elizabeth married Humphrey Bourchier after 11 Apr 1451. Humphrey (son of John Bourchier and Margery Berners) was born in in of Massingham Parva, Norfolk, England; died on 14 Apr 1471 in Barnet, Hertfordshire, England; was buried in Chapel of St. Edmund and St. Thomas the Martyr, Westminster Abbey, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 42. Margaret Bourchier  Descendancy chart to this point died between 20 Aug 1551 and 21 Jun 1552 in Layton, Essex, England.
    2. 43. John Bourchier  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1467 in of West Horsley, Surrey, England; died on 16 Mar 1533 in Calais, France; was buried in Calais, France.

  2. 28.  Ann Saye Descendancy chart to this point (15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died after 25 Feb 1484.

    Family/Spouse: Henry Wentworth. Henry (son of Philip Wentworth and Mary Clifford) was born about 1448; died between 17 Aug 1499 and 27 Feb 1501; was buried in Newhouse Abbey, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 44. Margaret Wentworth  Descendancy chart to this point died in Oct 1550.

  3. 29.  John Boteler Descendancy chart to this point (16.Philip5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1435 in of Watton Woodhall in Watton at Stone, Hertfordshire, England; died before 1499; was buried in Watton at Stone, Hertfordshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Between 1435 and 1436, of Watton Woodhall in Watton at Stone, Hertfordshire, England
    • Alternate death: Between 6 Sep 1504 and 1 Oct 1504

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire, 1490.

    John married Constance Vere after 1471. Constance (daughter of Richard Vere and Isabel Greene) died on 16 May 1499 in Astwell in Wappenham, Northamptonshire, England; was buried in Wappenham, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 45. Elizabeth Boteler  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1514; was buried in Stone, Hertfordshire, England.

  4. 30.  Eleanor Poynings Descendancy chart to this point (17.Richard5, 8.Elizabeth4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died on 11 Feb 1484.

    Eleanor married Henry Percy before 25 Jun 1435. Henry (son of Henry Percy and Eleanor Neville) was born on 25 Jul 1421; died on 29 Mar 1461 in Near Towton, Yorkshire, England; was buried in St. Dionis, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 46. Margaret Percy  Descendancy chart to this point

  5. 31.  Robert Tailboys Descendancy chart to this point (18.Elizabeth5, 9.Margaret4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1441-1451 in of Kyme, Lincolnshire, England; died on 31 Jan 1494; was buried in Kyme Priory, Lincolnshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1451
    • Alternate death: 30 Jan 1495

    Notes:

    MP for Lincolnshire 1472-75, 1478; Sheriff of Lincolnshire 1480-1.

    The attainder of his father was reversed in 1472. He was admitted a member of Corpus Christi Guild at Boston, Lincolnshire in 1488.

    Ancestor of George Washington:

    Sir Robert Talboys = Elizabeth Heron
    Sir George Talboys = Elizabeth Gascoigne
    Anne Talboys = Sir Edward Dymoke
    Frances Dymoke = Sir Thomas Windebank
    Mildred Windebank = Robert Reade
    Col. George Reade of VA = Elizabeth Martiau
    Mildred Reade = Augustine Warner Jr.
    Mildred Warner = Lawrence Washington
    Augustine Washington = Mary Ball
    George Washington = Mrs. Martha Dandridge Custis

    Robert married Elizabeth Heron before 1467. Elizabeth (daughter of John Heron and Elizabeth Heron) died before 30 Jan 1495; was buried in Kyme Priory, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 47. Maud Tailboys  Descendancy chart to this point

  6. 32.  Cecily Bonville Descendancy chart to this point (19.William5, 9.Margaret4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born between 1460 and 1461; died on 12 May 1529 in Shacklewell, Hackney, Middlesex, England.

    Family/Spouse: Thomas Grey. Thomas (son of John Grey and Elizabeth Woodville, Queen Consort of England) was born in 1451; died on 20 Sep 1501. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 48. Thomas Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 22 Jun 1477; died on 10 Oct 1530.

  7. 33.  Edmund Knyvet Descendancy chart to this point (20.Alice5, 10.John4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in in of Buckenham, Norfolk, England; died in 1504 in At sea.

    Notes:

    Edmund Knyvet (d. 1504) = Eleanor Tyrell (d. 1514)
    Thomas Knyvet (d. 1512) = Muriel Howard (b. 1486)
    Henry Knyvet (d. 1547) = Anne Pickering (1496-1582)
    Henry Knyvet (1539-1598) = Elizabeth Stumpe (d. 1585)
    Catherine Knyvet = Thomas Howard (1561-1626)
    Theophilus Howard (1584-1640) = Elizabeth Hume
    Henry Howard (1627-1709) = Mary Stuart (1648-1682)
    Charles Howard (1675-1733) = Mary Elizabeth Tattershall (1613-1664)
    Charles Howard (1707-1771) = Penelope Foley (1708-1748)
    Mary Howard (1740-1770) = Erasmus Darwin (1731-1802)
    Robert Waring Darwin (1766-1848) = Susanna Wedgwood
    Charles Robert Darwin (1809-1882)

    Family/Spouse: Eleanor Tyrrell. Eleanor (daughter of William Tyrrell and Margaret Darcy) died in 1514. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 49. Edmund Knyvet  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1490 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died on 1 May 1539; was buried in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England.

  8. 34.  Elizabeth Grey Descendancy chart to this point (21.Edward5, 11.Edward4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1484; died after 10 Aug 1530.

    Elizabeth married Edmund Dudley after 1500. Edmund (son of John Dudley and Elizabeth Bramshott) was born about 1462; died on 18 Aug 1510 in Tower Hill, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 50. John Dudley  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1504 and 1506; died on 22 Aug 1553 in Tower Hill, London, England.

  9. 35.  Thomas Grey Descendancy chart to this point (22.John5, 11.Edward4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in 1451; died on 20 Sep 1501.

    Family/Spouse: Cecily Bonville. Cecily (daughter of William Bonville and Catherine Neville) was born between 1460 and 1461; died on 12 May 1529 in Shacklewell, Hackney, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 48. Thomas Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 22 Jun 1477; died on 10 Oct 1530.

  10. 36.  Margery Grey Descendancy chart to this point (23.Humphrey5, 12.Robert4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1)

    Family/Spouse: Richard Saint Barbe. Richard (son of John Saint Barbe and Jane Sydenham) was born between 1470 and 1480 in of Ashington, Somerset, England; died on 10 Dec 1530. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 51. William Saint Barbe  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 52. Thomas Saint Barbe  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1518 in of Homington, Wiltshire, England; died on 31 Oct 1563.

  11. 37.  Elizabeth Greene Descendancy chart to this point (24.Thomas5, 13.Mary4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1)

    Elizabeth married William Raleigh about 1440. William (son of John Ralegh and Idoine Cotesford) was born in in of Farnborough, Warwickshire, England; died on 5 Oct 1460. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 53. Edward Raleigh  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 20 Jan 1441 in of Farnborough, Warwickshire, England; died between 20 Jun 1509 and 4 May 1513.

  12. 38.  Gilbert Talbot Descendancy chart to this point (25.John5, 14.John4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in 1452 in of Grafton, Worcestershire, England; died on 16 Aug 1517; was buried in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Shropshire 1485-86; Privy Councillor; Knight of the Body to Henry VII; Chamberlain of North Wales; Lieutenant of Calais 1508-15. He had command of the right wing at the battle of Bosworth. In 1504 he served as an ambassador to Pope Julius II.

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth Greystoke. Elizabeth (daughter of Ralph Greystoke and Elizabeth Fitz Hugh) died after 20 Dec 1483; was buried in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 54. John Talbot  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1485 in of Grafton, Worcestershire, England; died on 10 Sep 1549; was buried in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England.

  13. 39.  Elizabeth Talbot Descendancy chart to this point (26.John5, 14.John4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in 1452 in Nutley, Sussex, England; died on 8 Sep 1487.

    Family/Spouse: Edward Grey. Edward (son of Edward Grey and Elizabeth Ferrers) died on 17 Jul 1492. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 55. Elizabeth Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1484; died after 10 Aug 1530.


Generation: 7

  1. 40.  Edmund Howard Descendancy chart to this point (27.Elizabeth6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born between 1478 and 1480; died in Mar 1539.

    Notes:

    Described in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography as "an impecunious younger son". Comptroller of Calais in 1531.

    Family/Spouse: Joyce Culpeper. Joyce (daughter of Richard Culpepper and Isabel Worsley) was born about 1480; died after 1527. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 56. Catherine Howard, Queen Consort of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1518 and 1524; died on 13 Feb 1542 in Tower of London, London, England; was buried in Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London, London, England.

  2. 41.  Elizabeth Howard Descendancy chart to this point (27.Elizabeth6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1480; died on 3 Apr 1538.

    Family/Spouse: Thomas Boleyn. Thomas (son of William Boleyn and Margaret Butler) was born about 1477 in Hever Castle, Hever, Kent, England; died on 12 Mar 1539; was buried in St. Peter's, Hever, Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 57. Anne Boleyn, Queen Consort of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1500 in Blickling, Norfolk, England; died on 19 May 1536 in Tower Hill, London, England; was buried in Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London, London, England.

  3. 42.  Margaret Bourchier Descendancy chart to this point (27.Elizabeth6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died between 20 Aug 1551 and 21 Jun 1552 in Layton, Essex, England.

    Notes:

    Margaret Bourchier was lady governess to the children of King Henry VIII of England, the future monarchs Mary I, Elizabeth I, and Edward VI, as well as the illegitimate Henry FitzRoy.

    Margaret married Thomas Bryan before 1495. Thomas (son of Thomas Bryan and Isabel) was born in in of St. John, Hampshire, England; died between 1 Oct 1508 and 30 Jan 1518. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 58. Elizabeth Bryan  Descendancy chart to this point died between 21 May 1546 and 17 Jul 1546; was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England.

  4. 43.  John Bourchier Descendancy chart to this point (27.Elizabeth6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1467 in of West Horsley, Surrey, England; died on 16 Mar 1533 in Calais, France; was buried in Calais, France.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 19 Mar 1533, Calais, France

    Notes:

    2nd Baron Berners. Lieutenant of Calais from 1520 on. Chancellor of the Exchequer from 1524. On commission from Henry VIII he made English translations of Froissart's Chronicles, the Golden Book of Marcus Aurelius, the History of Arthur of Lyttel Brytaine, and the romance Huon of Bordeaux.

    Summoned to Parliament between 14 Oct 1495 and 9 Aug 1529.

    "Berners was not present at the Field of Cloth of Gold in 1520, as has been generally stated, but remained with the council in London." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

    John married Katherine Howard before 13 May 1490. Katherine (daughter of John Howard and Margaret Chedworth) died on 12 Mar 1536. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 59. Jane Bourchier  Descendancy chart to this point died on 17 Feb 1562.

  5. 44.  Margaret Wentworth Descendancy chart to this point (28.Ann6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died in Oct 1550.

    Family/Spouse: John Seymour. John was born in in of Wolfhall, Wiltshire, England; died on 21 Dec 1536; was buried in Easton Priory, Wiltshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 60. Elizabeth Seymour  Descendancy chart to this point died in 1563.
    2. 61. Jane Seymour, Queen Consort of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1509 in Wolf Hall, Wiltshire, England; died on 24 Oct 1537 in Hampton Court Palace, Richmond upon Thames, London, England; was buried in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England.

  6. 45.  Elizabeth Boteler Descendancy chart to this point (29.John6, 16.Philip5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died before 1514; was buried in Stone, Hertfordshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Buried: Wappenham, Northamptonshire, England

    Elizabeth married Thomas Lovett before 1491. Thomas (son of Thomas Lovett and Anne Drayton) was born on 29 Sep 1473 in Astwell in Wappenham, Northamptonshire, England; died on 14 Dec 1542; was buried in Stone, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 62. Thomas Lovett  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Astwell in Wappenham, Northamptonshire, England; died on 19 Jul 1523.

  7. 46.  Margaret Percy Descendancy chart to this point (30.Eleanor6, 17.Richard5, 8.Elizabeth4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1)

    Margaret married William Gascoigne before 1469. William (son of William Gascoigne and Joan Neville) was born about 1450 in of Gawthorpe, Yorkshire, England; died on 12 Mar 1487. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 63. Dorothy Gascoigne  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1526.

  8. 47.  Maud Tailboys Descendancy chart to this point (31.Robert6, 18.Elizabeth5, 9.Margaret4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1)

    Maud married Robert Tyrwhit before 14 May 1509. Robert (son of William Tyrwhit and Anne Constable) was born about 1482 in of Kettleby, Lincolnshire, England; died on 4 Jul 1548 in Kettleby, Lincolnshire, England; was buried in Wrawby, Kettleby, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 64. Katherine Tyrwhit  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Kettleby, Lincolnshire, England.
    2. 65. Robert Tyrwhit  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1504; died on 10 May 1572; was buried in Jun 1572 in Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire, England.
    3. 66. Philip Tyrwhit  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1510; died in Nov 1558.

  9. 48.  Thomas Grey Descendancy chart to this point (32.Cecily6, 19.William5, 9.Margaret4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born on 22 Jun 1477; died on 10 Oct 1530.

    Notes:

    2nd Marquess of Dorset.

    Thomas married Margaret Wotton in 1509. Margaret died after 6 Oct 1535. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 67. Henry Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 17 Jan 1517; died on 23 Feb 1554 in Tower Hill, London, England.

  10. 49.  Edmund Knyvet Descendancy chart to this point (33.Edmund6, 20.Alice5, 10.John4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in 1490 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died on 1 May 1539; was buried in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England.

    Notes:

    Also spelled Knevet. Sergeant Porter to Henry VIII. Keeper of the King's Woods in Rockingham Forest.

    Family/Spouse: Jane Bourchier. Jane (daughter of John Bourchier and Katherine Howard) died on 17 Feb 1562. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 68. John Knyvet  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1517 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 1556.

  11. 50.  John Dudley Descendancy chart to this point (34.Elizabeth6, 21.Edward5, 11.Edward4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born between 1504 and 1506; died on 22 Aug 1553 in Tower Hill, London, England.

    Notes:

    1st Duke of Northumberland.

    John married Jane Guildford before 1526. Jane (daughter of Edward Guildford and Eleanor West) was born about 1504; died on 22 Jan 1555 in Chelsea, Middlesex, England; was buried on 1 Feb 1555 in Chelsea, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 69. Guildford Dudley  Descendancy chart to this point died on 12 Feb 1554 in Tower Hill, London, England.

  12. 51.  William Saint Barbe Descendancy chart to this point (36.Margery6, 23.Humphrey5, 12.Robert4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1)

    Notes:

    Third son of Richard Saint Barbe and Margery Grey. He was a member of Henry VIII's privy council, and one of the witnesses who signed that king's will.


  13. 52.  Thomas Saint Barbe Descendancy chart to this point (36.Margery6, 23.Humphrey5, 12.Robert4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1518 in of Homington, Wiltshire, England; died on 31 Oct 1563.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1510, of Homington, Wiltshire, England

    Notes:

    Second son of Richard Saint Barbe and Margery Grey. He was a merchant based in Salisbury. In 1547 he purchased the manor of Homington, Wiltshire and the vicarage of Compton Chamberlaine from his brother William Saint Barbe, who was a member of Henry VIII's privy council.

    Family/Spouse: Joan. Joan died after 17 Jan 1573. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 70. Alice Saint Barbe  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1596.

  14. 53.  Edward Raleigh Descendancy chart to this point (37.Elizabeth6, 24.Thomas5, 13.Mary4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born on 20 Jan 1441 in of Farnborough, Warwickshire, England; died between 20 Jun 1509 and 4 May 1513.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 20 Jan 1443, of Farnborough, Warwickshire, England
    • Alternate death: Between 20 Jun 1509 and 6 Jun 1513

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire 1467-68, 1495-96, 1506-07.

    Sixth in descent from John Raleigh of Farnborough who married Joan de Grey of the Rotherfield Grays, according to Memorials of the Danvers Family (citation details below).

    Edward married Margaret Verney in 1467. Margaret (daughter of Ralph Verney, Mayor of London and Emma) died after 1508. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 71. Edward Raleigh  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1470 in of Farnborough, Warwickshire, England; died after 25 Aug 1508.

  15. 54.  John Talbot Descendancy chart to this point (38.Gilbert6, 25.John5, 14.John4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1485 in of Grafton, Worcestershire, England; died on 10 Sep 1549; was buried in Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Albrighton, Shropshire, England

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Shropshire 1527-28, 1533-34, 1537-38, 1541-42.

    John married Margaret Troutbeck before 1510. Margaret (daughter of Adam Troutbeck and Joan Molyneux) was born about 1492; died after 11 Jul 1521. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 72. Anne Talbot  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1510 and 1515.

  16. 55.  Elizabeth Grey Descendancy chart to this point (39.Elizabeth6, 26.John5, 14.John4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1484; died after 10 Aug 1530.

    Elizabeth married Edmund Dudley after 1500. Edmund (son of John Dudley and Elizabeth Bramshott) was born about 1462; died on 18 Aug 1510 in Tower Hill, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 73. John Dudley  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1504 and 1506; died on 22 Aug 1553 in Tower Hill, London, England.


Generation: 8

  1. 56.  Catherine Howard, Queen Consort of England Descendancy chart to this point (40.Edmund7, 27.Elizabeth6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born between 1518 and 1524; died on 13 Feb 1542 in Tower of London, London, England; was buried in Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London, London, England.

    Notes:

    In one of the charges leading to her downfall, she was alleged to have failed to resist the advances of a gentleman of the king's privy chamber named Thomas Culpeper, who was himself beheaded at Tyburn on 10 Dec 1541, two months before her own execution. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography article about Katherine Howard notes that "he was distantly related to Katherine on her mother's side, for they shared a Culpeper ancestor who had lived in the reign of Edward II." This would be true if the courtier were a son of any number of Culpepers of sixteenth-century Kent, virtually all of them descendants of Thomas Colepeper of Brenchley who died in 1309. But the ODNB confidently states that the courtier Thomas Culpeper was "the second of the three sons of Alexander Culpeper of Bedgebury, Kent (d. 1541), and his second wife, Constance Harper (née Chamberlain); his elder brother, also named Thomas, was a client of Thomas Cromwell." This piques our interest, because this Alexander Culpeper was a son of John Culpeper (~1430-1480) and his wife Agnes Gainsford, who are themselves direct ancestors of JTS and (probably) TNH, AP, and GFS.1, 2

    The problem is this: Alexander Culpeper of Bedgebury made his will on 20 May 1540, and died sometime in 1541 before 21 June, when his will was proved. His wife Constance made her will on 4 Oct 1541, after her husband's death. All of these events happened before the courtier Thomas Culpeper was accused, much less executed. And yet both wills name only one son named Thomas. Alexander's calls Thomas "myne eldist sonne" and mentions one other son, John. Constance's also names only two sons by Alexander, Thomas and John. (She had an additional son, George Harper, by her first marriage.)

    Constance's will was proved at London on 13 Nov 1542, so it's entirely possible that she lived past 10 Nov 1541, the day the courtier Thomas Culpepper was executed. And there is a codicil to Constance's will, undated, but it makes none of the adjustments one might expect if one of one's legatees had been beheaded at Tyburn since the main will was drawn up.

    Even more to the point, if backwoods gentry Alexander and Constance Culpeper had a son who was a fast-rising figure at the royal court, one would think he would at least be mentioned in one or both of their wills. Remember again that when both of these wills were drawn up, the courtier Thomas Culpeper had yet to be accused of any wrongdoing.

    Finally, the will of the Thomas Culpeper who was definitely a son of Alexander and Constance Culpeper, mentioned in both of their wills, is dated 6 Aug 1557; it was proved 20 Oct 1558, and he was buried at St. Mary's in Goudhurst on 13 May 1558. He was married twice, to Elizabeth Hawte in about 1522 and to Ellen Hendley in about 1540. He is obviously not the courtier who was executed in November 1541.

    Where does the claim about the courtier's parentage come from? Probably the 1592 Visitation of Kent. Specifically, the 1924 volume The Visitations of Kent, Taken in the Years 1574 and 1592 by Robert Cooke, Clarenceux, edited by W. Bruce Bannerman, part 2, London, 1924 (Harleian Society volume 75). "The present Volume contains the remaining portion of the letters, I-Z, of the second Visitation, in 1574, together with the third Visitation, made in 1592, based on a contemporary MS bearing the autograph of Percy, Viscount Strangford, London, 1816, with the addition, from other sources, of some further Pedigrees and Arms." We're uncertain what "contemporary MS" means in this context: an actual manuscript made by a herald in the 1590s, or not? And as to the "autograph of Percy, Viscount Strangford, London, 1816", we are doubtful about the mighty authenticating credibility emanating from the signature of Percy Clinton Sydney Smythe, 6th Viscount Strangford (1780-1855), whose career as a British diplomat went into an abrupt decline when, as ambassador to Russia in 1826, he was caught falsifying dispatches to the British government and revealing confidential documents to the Austrian ambassador in St. Petersburg. At any rate, these are the pertinent passages from the 1924 volume's representation of the 1592 visitation, all on page 92:

    Sr John Colepeper of Bedgebery aforsaide knight Sonne and heire to Walter married Agnes the daughter of . . . . . and by her hathe issue Sr Alexander Colepeper knighte his eldest Sonne […]

    Sr Alexander Colepeper of Bedgebery aforsaide knighte Sonne and heire to Sr John maried to his first wiffe Agnes Daughter to Roger Davye of Northfelde in the County of Kent Esquire and by her had issue Alys. After the saide Sr Alexander maried to his seconde wiffe Constance Daughter to Robert Chamberlein and wydowe of Harper, and her her had issue Thomas Colepeper his eldist Sonne, and Thomas Colepeper second Sonne, and John Colepeper thirde Sonne, Elizabeth maried to St Clere gent., Anne maried to Raulfe Molyns of Barkeshier, and Johan maried to Aldred ffitz James of Somersetshire Esquire, Margarett married to Phillippe Chowte gent and Katherin maried to Edwarde Barrett gent.

    Anne's husband was actually William Molyns, not Raulfe or Ralph. Johanna's husband was Alfred Fitzjames, not Aldred, but given the fluidity of late-medieval names he may well have gone by Aldred two or three times a week. At any rate, even stipulating that these passages represent a perfect copy of the original 1592 visitation, it remains that this information would have been taken down by the heralds from people reciting family history over fifty years after the deaths of Alexander and Constance Culpeper.

    We would like to know if the author of the ODNB essay about Katherine Howard, Retha M. Warnicke, has other sources that would indicate that the courtier Thomas Culpeper was in fact a son of Alexander and Constance. We would also like to know the source for the information that his stated older brother, also named Thomas, was "a client of Thomas Cromwell." In the absence of any such information, we're inclined to believe that this theory of the parentage of the courtier Thomas Culpeper is merely yet another example of the less-than-perfect reliability of visitation pedigrees.

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    (1) Depending on whether TNH, AP, and GFS ancestor Joan Roberts was a daughter of her father Walter Roberts's second wife Isabel Culpepper, daughter of John Culpepper and Agnes Gainsford, as seems most probable, instead of his first wife, Margaret Penn. See Adrian Benjamin Burke, John Blythe Dobson, and Janet Chevally Wolfe, "The Exhurst Ancestry of the Stoughton Siblings of New England", The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 165:245, October 2011; 166:46, January 2012.

    (2) And possibly of PNH, if it's ever proved that his 9G-grandfather Henry Colepepper (d. 1675 in Virginia) was a son of his fellow Virginia emigrant John Culpeper (1637-1674), as has often been speculated. If this turned out to be the case, John Culpeper and Agnes Gainsford would be the most recent common ancestors of PNH and TNH.

    Catherine married Henry VIII, King of England on 28 Jul 1540 in Oatlands Palace, Surrey, England. Henry (son of Henry VII, King of England and lord of Ireland and Elizabeth of York, Queen Consort of England) was born on 28 Jun 1491 in Greenwich, Kent, England; died on 28 Jan 1547 in Hampton Court Palace, Richmond upon Thames, London, England; was buried in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 57.  Anne Boleyn, Queen Consort of England Descendancy chart to this point (41.Elizabeth7, 27.Elizabeth6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1500 in Blickling, Norfolk, England; died on 19 May 1536 in Tower Hill, London, England; was buried in Chapel of St. Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London, London, England.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: tower

    Anne married Henry VIII, King of England in Jan 1533. Henry (son of Henry VII, King of England and lord of Ireland and Elizabeth of York, Queen Consort of England) was born on 28 Jun 1491 in Greenwich, Kent, England; died on 28 Jan 1547 in Hampton Court Palace, Richmond upon Thames, London, England; was buried in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 74. Elizabeth I, Queen of England and Ireland  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 7 Sep 1533 in Greenwich Palace, Kent, England; died on 24 Mar 1603 in Richmond Palace, Surrey, England; was buried in Westminster Abbey, Westminster, Middlesex, England.

  3. 58.  Elizabeth Bryan Descendancy chart to this point (42.Margaret7, 27.Elizabeth6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died between 21 May 1546 and 17 Jul 1546; was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England.

    Notes:

    Elizabeth Bryan was vice-chamberlain to Catherine of Aragon, an office also held by her father, and a reputed mistress of Henry VIII. Following her husband's death, she was reduced to penury. Some of their former property eventually wound up in the Darcy family.

    Elizabeth married Nicholas Carew in Dec 1514. Nicholas (son of Richard Carew and Malyn Oxenbridge) was born before 1496; died on 3 Mar 1540 in Tower Hill, London, England; was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 75. Mary Carew  Descendancy chart to this point was buried in St. Botolph's, Aldgate, London, England.

  4. 59.  Jane Bourchier Descendancy chart to this point (43.John7, 27.Elizabeth6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died on 17 Feb 1562.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1561

    Notes:

    Or Joan.

    Family/Spouse: Edmund Knyvet. Edmund (son of Edmund Knyvet and Eleanor Tyrrell) was born in 1490 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died on 1 May 1539; was buried in Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 76. John Knyvet  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1517 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 1556.

  5. 60.  Elizabeth Seymour Descendancy chart to this point (44.Margaret7, 28.Ann6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died in 1563.

    Family/Spouse: Anthony Oughtred. Anthony died in 1534. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Family/Spouse: Gregory Cromwell. Gregory (son of Thomas Cromwell and Elizabeth Wykes) died in 1551. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 61.  Jane Seymour, Queen Consort of England Descendancy chart to this point (44.Margaret7, 28.Ann6, 15.Elizabeth5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1509 in Wolf Hall, Wiltshire, England; died on 24 Oct 1537 in Hampton Court Palace, Richmond upon Thames, London, England; was buried in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England.

    Jane married Henry VIII, King of England on 30 May 1536 in Whitehall Palace, London, England. Henry (son of Henry VII, King of England and lord of Ireland and Elizabeth of York, Queen Consort of England) was born on 28 Jun 1491 in Greenwich, Kent, England; died on 28 Jan 1547 in Hampton Court Palace, Richmond upon Thames, London, England; was buried in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 77. Edward VI, King of England  Descendancy chart to this point

  7. 62.  Thomas Lovett Descendancy chart to this point (45.Elizabeth7, 29.John6, 16.Philip5, 7.Elizabeth4, 4.Ida3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in in of Astwell in Wappenham, Northamptonshire, England; died on 19 Jul 1523.

    Family/Spouse: Anne Danvers. Anne (daughter of John Danvers and Anne Stradling) died on 11 Jul 1523. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 78. Elizabeth Lovett  Descendancy chart to this point died on 20 Aug 1577; was buried in Chicheley, Buckinghamshire, England.

  8. 63.  Dorothy Gascoigne Descendancy chart to this point (46.Margaret7, 30.Eleanor6, 17.Richard5, 8.Elizabeth4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died before 1526.

    Family/Spouse: Ninian Markenfield. Ninian (son of Thomas Markenfield and Eleanor Conyers) was born in in of Markenfield, Yorkshire, England; died on 25 Mar 1528. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 79. Alice Markenfield  Descendancy chart to this point died between 4 Mar 1553 and 7 Mar 1553.

  9. 64.  Katherine Tyrwhit Descendancy chart to this point (47.Maud7, 31.Robert6, 18.Elizabeth5, 9.Margaret4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born in in of Kettleby, Lincolnshire, England.

    Family/Spouse: Richard Thimbleby. Richard (son of John Thimbleby and Margaret Boys) was born about 1507 in of Irnham, Lincolnshire, England; died on 25 Sep 1590 in Irnham, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 80. Elizabeth Thimbleby  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Irnham, Lincolnshire, England.

  10. 65.  Robert Tyrwhit Descendancy chart to this point (47.Maud7, 31.Robert6, 18.Elizabeth5, 9.Margaret4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born before 1504; died on 10 May 1572; was buried in Jun 1572 in Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire, England.

    Robert married Elizabeth Oxenbridge between Apr 1538 and 4 Aug 1539. Elizabeth (daughter of Goddard Oxenbridge and Anne Fiennes) died before 28 Apr 1578 in St. John's Lane, Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 81. Katherine Tyrwhit  Descendancy chart to this point died in 1567.

  11. 66.  Philip Tyrwhit Descendancy chart to this point (47.Maud7, 31.Robert6, 18.Elizabeth5, 9.Margaret4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1510; died in Nov 1558.

  12. 67.  Henry Grey Descendancy chart to this point (48.Thomas7, 32.Cecily6, 19.William5, 9.Margaret4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born on 17 Jan 1517; died on 23 Feb 1554 in Tower Hill, London, England.

    Notes:

    1st Duke of Suffolk. 3rd Marquess of Dorset.

    Family/Spouse: Frances Brandon. Frances (daughter of Charles Brandon and Mary Tudor) was born on 16 Jul 1517 in Hatfield, Hertfordshire, England; died on 11 Nov 1559 in London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 82. Jane Grey, Queen of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Oct 1537 in Bradgate, Leicestershire, England; died on 12 Feb 1554 in Tower Hill, London, England.
    2. 83. Katherine Grey  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1540; died on 27 Jan 1568 in Yoxford, Sussex, England; was buried in Yoxford, Sussex, England.

  13. 68.  John Knyvet Descendancy chart to this point (49.Edmund7, 33.Edmund6, 20.Alice5, 10.John4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1517 in of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, England; died before 1556.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Plumstead, Norfolk, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 1561

    John married Agnes Harcourt about 1538. Agnes (daughter of John Harcourt and Margaret Barantyne) died in 1578. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 84. Abigail Knyvet  Descendancy chart to this point died on 15 Dec 1623; was buried in Wacton, Norfolk, England.

  14. 69.  Guildford Dudley Descendancy chart to this point (50.John7, 34.Elizabeth6, 21.Edward5, 11.Edward4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died on 12 Feb 1554 in Tower Hill, London, England.

    Guildford married Jane Grey, Queen of England on 21 May 1553 in Durham House, London, England. Jane (daughter of Henry Grey and Frances Brandon) was born in Oct 1537 in Bradgate, Leicestershire, England; died on 12 Feb 1554 in Tower Hill, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  15. 70.  Alice Saint Barbe Descendancy chart to this point (52.Thomas7, 36.Margery6, 23.Humphrey5, 12.Robert4, 5.Reynold3, 2.Eleanor2, 1.Ankaret1) died after 1596.

    Notes:

    Also called Alice Symbarbe.

    Alice married Christopher Batt on 8 Jul 1568 in St. Martin's, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England. Christopher (son of John Batt and Margaret Thistlethwaite) was born between 1538 and 1540; died before 31 Aug 1581; was buried on 31 Aug 1581 in St. Martin's, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 85. Thomas Batt  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 30 Dec 1571; died before 20 Feb 1632; was buried on 20 Feb 1632 in St. Martin's, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England.

  16. 71.  Edward Raleigh Descendancy chart to this point (53.Edward7, 37.Elizabeth6, 24.Thomas5, 13.Mary4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born about 1470 in of Farnborough, Warwickshire, England; died after 25 Aug 1508.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Between 25 Aug 1507 and 1508

    Edward married Anne Chamberlain between 1496 and 1505. Anne (daughter of Richard Chamberlain and Sybil Fowler) died after 1529. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 86. Bridget Raleigh  Descendancy chart to this point died before Jun 1542.
    2. 87. Mary Raleigh  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1523.

  17. 72.  Anne Talbot Descendancy chart to this point (54.John7, 38.Gilbert6, 25.John5, 14.John4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born between 1510 and 1515.

    Anne married Thomas Needham on 1 Feb 1526. Thomas (son of Robert Needham and Agnes Mainwaring) was born in 1510 in of Cranage, Cheshire, England; died before 1556. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 88. Robert Needham  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1535 in of Shavington in Adderley, Shropshire, England; died before 18 Dec 1603; was buried on 18 Dec 1603 in Adderley, Shropshire, England.

  18. 73.  John Dudley Descendancy chart to this point (55.Elizabeth7, 39.Elizabeth6, 26.John5, 14.John4, 6.Ankaret3, 3.John2, 1.Ankaret1) was born between 1504 and 1506; died on 22 Aug 1553 in Tower Hill, London, England.

    Notes:

    1st Duke of Northumberland.

    John married Jane Guildford before 1526. Jane (daughter of Edward Guildford and Eleanor West) was born about 1504; died on 22 Jan 1555 in Chelsea, Middlesex, England; was buried on 1 Feb 1555 in Chelsea, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 89. Guildford Dudley  Descendancy chart to this point died on 12 Feb 1554 in Tower Hill, London, England.