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William de Say

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  William de Say was born in in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England; died before 12 Feb 1272.

    Family/Spouse: Sibyl. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Hawise de Say  Descendancy chart to this point died after 1317.
    2. 3. William de Say  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 20 Nov 1253 in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England; died before 16 Sep 1295.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Hawise de Say Descendancy chart to this point (1.William1) died after 1317.

    Hawise married John Marshal after 1267. John (son of William Marshal and Pernel del Ortiay) was born about 1257 in of Hingham, Norfolk, England; died before 4 Dec 1282. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. William Marshal  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 24 Sep 1277 in Denham, Suffolk, England; died on 24 Jun 1314 in Bannockburn, Stirlingshire, Scotland.

  2. 3.  William de Say Descendancy chart to this point (1.William1) was born on 20 Nov 1253 in of Edmonton, Middlesex, England; died before 16 Sep 1295.

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth. Elizabeth died after 1307. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Geoffrey de Say  Descendancy chart to this point was born between 1279 and 1281 in of West Greenwich, Kent, England; died before 3 Mar 1322.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  William Marshal Descendancy chart to this point (2.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 24 Sep 1277 in Denham, Suffolk, England; died on 24 Jun 1314 in Bannockburn, Stirlingshire, Scotland.

    Notes:

    Hereditary Marshal of Ireland. Present at the siege of Caerlaverock. Summoned to Parliament from 8 Jan 1309 to 26 Nov 1313. Killed at the battle of Bannockburn.

    Family/Spouse: Christian de Burgh. Christian (daughter of Robert Fitz Walter and Devorguille de Burgh) died before 6 Dec 1315 in Holywell Priory, Shorewell, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Hawise Marshal  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1301; died before Sep 1334.

  2. 5.  Geoffrey de Say Descendancy chart to this point (3.William2, 1.William1) was born between 1279 and 1281 in of West Greenwich, Kent, England; died before 3 Mar 1322.

    Notes:

    Summoned to Parliament by writ, 26 Jul 1313 to 14 May 1321.

    Geoffrey married Idoine de Leybourne on 28 Dec 1295. Idoine (daughter of William de Leybourne and Juliane de Sandwich) died after 14 Nov 1337. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Juliane de Say  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 8. Geoffrey de Say  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 30 Apr 1305 in of West Greenwich, Kent, England; died on 26 Jun 1359.


Generation: 4

  1. 6.  Hawise Marshal Descendancy chart to this point (4.William3, 2.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 1301; died before Sep 1334.

    Hawise married Robert de Morley before 20 Oct 1316. Robert (son of William de Morley and Cecily de Mohaut) was born in in of Morley, Norfolk, England; died on 23 Mar 1360 in Burgundy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. William de Morley  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 24 Jun 1319 in of Great Hallingbury, Bishop's Stortford, Essex, England; died on 30 Apr 1379 in Hallingbury, Essex, England; was buried in Austin Friars, Norwich, Norfolk, England.

  2. 7.  Juliane de Say Descendancy chart to this point (5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1)

    Juliane married Roger de Northwode after 23 Mar 1322. Roger (son of John de Northwode and Agnes de Grandison) was born about 1307 in of Northwood in Sheppey, Kent, England; died on 5 Nov 1361. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. John de Northwode  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Northwood in Sheppey, Kent, England; died on 27 Feb 1379.

  3. 8.  Geoffrey de Say Descendancy chart to this point (5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) was born on 30 Apr 1305 in of West Greenwich, Kent, England; died on 26 Jun 1359.

    Notes:

    Admiral of the Fleet from the mouth of the Thames westward. He fought at Crécy in the second division.

    Family/Spouse: Maud de Beauchamp. Maud (daughter of Guy de Beauchamp and Alice de Tony) died after 30 Oct 1369; was buried in Black Friars, Holborn, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Idoine de Say  Descendancy chart to this point died before 1379.
    2. 12. Joan de Say  Descendancy chart to this point died on 29 Jun 1378.


Generation: 5

  1. 9.  William de Morley Descendancy chart to this point (6.Hawise4, 4.William3, 2.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born on 24 Jun 1319 in of Great Hallingbury, Bishop's Stortford, Essex, England; died on 30 Apr 1379 in Hallingbury, Essex, England; was buried in Austin Friars, Norwich, Norfolk, England.

    Notes:

    De jure Lord Marshal. Summoned to Parliament from 4 Dec 1364 to 16 Feb 1379.

    William married Cecily Bardolf after 8 Dec 1326. Cecily (daughter of Thomas Bardolf and Agnes) died on 23 Nov 1386; was buried in Austin Friars, Norwich, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 13. Thomas Morley  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1354 in of Morley, Norfolk, England; died on 24 Sep 1416 in Calais, France; was buried in Austin Friars, Norwich, Norfolk, England.

  2. 10.  John de Northwode Descendancy chart to this point (7.Juliane4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) was born in in of Northwood in Sheppey, Kent, England; died on 27 Feb 1379.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 1321

    Notes:

    Summoned to Parliament by writ from 1 Jun 1363.

    John married Joan Hert in 1350. Joan (daughter of Robert Hert) died after Aug 1398. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. Juliane de Northwode  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1362.

  3. 11.  Idoine de Say Descendancy chart to this point (8.Geoffrey4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) died before 1379.

    Idoine married John de Clinton about 1350. John (son of John de Clinton and Margery Corbet) was born about 13 Apr 1328 in of Maxstoke, Warwickshire, England; died on 6 Sep 1398; was buried in Haversham, Buckinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 15. Margaret de Clinton  Descendancy chart to this point

  4. 12.  Joan de Say Descendancy chart to this point (8.Geoffrey4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) died on 29 Jun 1378.

    Joan married William de Fiennes before 1356. William (son of John de Fiennes and Maud de Monceux) was born about 1330 in of Herstmonceux, Sussex, England; died on 2 Dec 1359 in Overseas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. William Fiennes  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Herstmonceux, Sussex, England; died on 18 Jan 1402; was buried in Herstmonceux, Sussex, England.


Generation: 6

  1. 13.  Thomas Morley Descendancy chart to this point (9.William5, 6.Hawise4, 4.William3, 2.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 1354 in of Morley, Norfolk, England; died on 24 Sep 1416 in Calais, France; was buried in Austin Friars, Norwich, Norfolk, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1352

    Notes:

    Privy councillor. Hereditary Marshal of Ireland. Summoned to Parliament from 20 Oct 1379 to 3 Sep 1416. According to Walter Rye (citation details below), he was captain general of all English forces in France in the year of his death, 1416.

    Thomas married Joan Hastings before 3 Apr 1374. Joan (daughter of Hugh de Hastings and Margaret de Everingham) died before Jun 1380; was buried in White Friars, Norwich, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. Robert Morley  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1375; died between 8 Jan 1399 and 27 Oct 1401.

    Thomas married Anne Despenser before 21 Oct 1390. Anne (daughter of Edward le Despenser and Elizabeth Burghersh) was born about 1363; died on 30 Oct 1426. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 14.  Juliane de Northwode Descendancy chart to this point (10.John5, 7.Juliane4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) was born about 1362.

    Juliane married John Dygge about Nov 1379. John (son of Roger Dygge and Albina) was born in in of Diggs Court in Barham, Kent, England; died in 1421. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. John Dygge  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Diggs Court in Barham, Kent, England; died after 1449.

  3. 15.  Margaret de Clinton Descendancy chart to this point (11.Idoine5, 8.Geoffrey4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1)

    Family/Spouse: Baldwin de Montfort. Baldwin (son of John de Montfort and Joan de Clinton) was born in in of Coleshill, Warwickshire, England; died between 1385 and 1386 in Spain. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 19. William Montfort  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1375 in of Coleshill, Warwickshire, England; died on 6 Dec 1452; was buried in Aldridge, Staffordshire, England.

  4. 16.  William Fiennes Descendancy chart to this point (12.Joan5, 8.Geoffrey4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) was born in in of Herstmonceux, Sussex, England; died on 18 Jan 1402; was buried in Herstmonceux, Sussex, England.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex, 1396-97, 1398-99.

    William married Elizabeth Batisford before 23 Apr 1385. Elizabeth (daughter of William Batisford and Margery de Peplesham) died before 1407. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 20. Roger Fiennes  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 14 Sep 1384 in Herstmonceux, Sussex, England; died between 29 Oct 1449 and 18 Nov 1449.


Generation: 7

  1. 17.  Robert Morley Descendancy chart to this point (13.Thomas6, 9.William5, 6.Hawise4, 4.William3, 2.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 1375; died between 8 Jan 1399 and 27 Oct 1401.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1416

    Notes:

    Walter Rye (citation details below) places him as a son of Thomas Morley's second wife Anne Despenser, which is chronologically impossible.

    Robert married Isabel Moleyns before Aug 1394. Isabel (daughter of William de Moleyns and Margery Bacon) died before Jun 1409. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 21. Thomas Morley  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1393; died on 6 Dec 1435; was buried in Hingham, Norfolk, England.

  2. 18.  John Dygge Descendancy chart to this point (14.Juliane6, 10.John5, 7.Juliane4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) was born in in of Diggs Court in Barham, Kent, England; died after 1449.

    John married Juliane Horne before 1413. Juliane was born in in of Popeshall, Kent, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 22. Thomas Digges  Descendancy chart to this point

  3. 19.  William Montfort Descendancy chart to this point (15.Margaret6, 11.Idoine5, 8.Geoffrey4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) was born about 1375 in of Coleshill, Warwickshire, England; died on 6 Dec 1452; was buried in Aldridge, Staffordshire, England.

    Notes:

    Steward of the household of Richard de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick. Knight of the shire for Warwickshire 1422-23, 1427, 1429, 1437, 1445, 1450. Sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire 1431-32, 1441-42, 1450-51.

    William married Margaret Pecche before 1407. Margaret (daughter of John Pecche and Katherine) was born on 30 Apr 1386; died before Apr 1417. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 23. Baldwin Montfort  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1412 in of Avon Dassett, Warwickshire, England; died before 10 Feb 1475.

  4. 20.  Roger Fiennes Descendancy chart to this point (16.William6, 12.Joan5, 8.Geoffrey4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) was born before 14 Sep 1384 in Herstmonceux, Sussex, England; died between 29 Oct 1449 and 18 Nov 1449.

    Other Events:

    • Baptised: 14 Sep 1384, Herstmonceux, Sussex, England

    Notes:

    Knight of the shire for Sussex. Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex 1423, 1434-35. Constable of Porchester. Treasurer of the Household to Henry VI. Keeper of the King's Wardrobe. Chief Steward of the Duchy of Lancaster (Southern Parts and Wales).

    He fought at Agincourt, 1415.

    Roger married Elizabeth Holand before 1422. Elizabeth (daughter of John Holand and Margaret) died after Apr 1441. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 24. Margaret Fiennes  Descendancy chart to this point died after 20 Apr 1458; was buried in Chapel of St. Nichols, St. Mary's, Beddington, Surrey, England.
    2. 25. Richard Fiennes  Descendancy chart to this point died on 25 Nov 1483; was buried in Herstmonceux, Sussex, England.


Generation: 8

  1. 21.  Thomas Morley Descendancy chart to this point (17.Robert7, 13.Thomas6, 9.William5, 6.Hawise4, 4.William3, 2.Hawise2, 1.William1) was born about 1393; died on 6 Dec 1435; was buried in Hingham, Norfolk, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1394

    Notes:

    Privy councillor. De jure Lord Marshal, Marshal of Ireland. Fought at Agincourt. Took part in the sieges of Rouen, Melun, and Meaux. Present at the death of Henry V and bore one of the banners at his funeral.

    Summoned to Parliament from 15 Jul 1427 to 5 Jul 1435.

    Thomas married Isabel de la Pole before 6 Feb 1403. Isabel (daughter of Michael de la Pole and Katherine Stafford) died on 8 Feb 1467. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 26. Elizabeth Morley  Descendancy chart to this point died between 12 Nov 1446 and Mar 1451.
    2. 27. Anne Morley  Descendancy chart to this point died in 1471; was buried in Gressenhall, Norfolk, England.

  2. 22.  Thomas Digges Descendancy chart to this point (18.John7, 14.Juliane6, 10.John5, 7.Juliane4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1)

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 28. Joan Digges  Descendancy chart to this point died before 31 Oct 1516.

  3. 23.  Baldwin Montfort Descendancy chart to this point (19.William7, 15.Margaret6, 11.Idoine5, 8.Geoffrey4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) was born about 1412 in of Avon Dassett, Warwickshire, England; died before 10 Feb 1475.

    Notes:

    He entered holy orders as a priest, about 1460-61.

    Family/Spouse: Joan Vernon. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 29. Robert Montfort  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Church Bickenhall, Warwickshire, England.

  4. 24.  Margaret Fiennes Descendancy chart to this point (20.Roger7, 16.William6, 12.Joan5, 8.Geoffrey4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) died after 20 Apr 1458; was buried in Chapel of St. Nichols, St. Mary's, Beddington, Surrey, England.

    Family/Spouse: Nicholas Carew. Nicholas (son of Nicholas de Carew and Isabel de la Mare) died on 20 Apr 1458; was buried in Chapel of St. Nichols, St. Mary's, Beddington, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 30. James Carew  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Beddington, Surrey, England; died on 22 Dec 1492.

  5. 25.  Richard Fiennes Descendancy chart to this point (20.Roger7, 16.William6, 12.Joan5, 8.Geoffrey4, 5.Geoffrey3, 3.William2, 1.William1) died on 25 Nov 1483; was buried in Herstmonceux, Sussex, England.

    Notes:

    Lord Dacre of Herstmonceux. Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex 1452-53. Privy councillor. Chamberlain to Queen Elizabeth Woodville. Summoned to Parliament by writs dated 9 Oct 1459 to 15 Nov 1482.

    Richard married Joan Dacre after May 1446. Joan (daughter of Thomas Dacre and Elizabeth Bowet) was born about 1433; died on 8 Mar 1486; was buried in Herstmonceux, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 31. Thomas Fiennes  Descendancy chart to this point was born in in of Claverham in Arlington, Sussex, England; died on 8 Feb 1526.