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Gerberga of Lorraine

Female - Aft 1017


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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Gerberga of Lorraine died Aft 1017.

    Gerberga married Lambert I "The Bearded" Between 985 and 990. Lambert (son of Reginar III "Longneck" and Adela) was born Abt 950; died 12 Sep 1015, Florennes, Namur, Belgium. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 2. Lambert II  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 991, of Louvain, Brabant, Belgium; died Aft 21 Sep 1062.
    2. 3. Mathilde of Louvain  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 993.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Lambert II Descendancy chart to this point (1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 991, of Louvain, Brabant, Belgium; died Aft 21 Sep 1062.

    Notes:

    Count of Louvain. Sometimes nicknamed "Baudry."

    "Lambert scorned both temporal and spiritual authorities and in 1054 even took up arms against Holy Roman Emperor Henry III. He was defeated and lost his life at Tournai. [...] During his reign Brussels began its growth. Lambert arranged to transfer the remains of Saint Gudule to the St. Michael church. This church, thereafter known as Saints-Michel-et-Gudule, developed to become St. Michael and Gudula Cathedral. Lambert also constructed a fortress on the Coudenberg hill." [Wikipedia]

    Lambert married Uda of Lorraine. (daughter of Gozelo I) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 4. Adela de Louvain  Descendancy chart to this point died 1083.
    2. 5. Henry II of Louvain  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1021; died Abt 1078; was buried , Abbey of Nivelles, Brabant.

  2. 3.  Mathilde of Louvain Descendancy chart to this point (1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 993.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1004, Louvain, Brabant, Belgium

    Notes:

    Also called Mahaut de Louvain; Maud de Leuven; Mathilda of Lens.

    Mathilde married Eustace I. Eustace (son of Baldwin and Adelvie de Gant) was born Abt 995; died Abt 1049. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 6. Eustache II of Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point died Abt 1080.
    2. 7. Lambert II of Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point died 1054, Phalempin, Nord, France.
    3. 8. Gerberge de Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1059.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Adela de Louvain Descendancy chart to this point (2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1083.

    Adela married Otto. Otto (son of Wilhelm III and Oda) was born Abt 1005; died 1067. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 9. Adelheid  Descendancy chart to this point died 28 Mar 1100.
    2. 10. Kunigunde  Descendancy chart to this point died 8 Jun 1140.

  2. 5.  Henry II of Louvain Descendancy chart to this point (2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1021; died Abt 1078; was buried , Abbey of Nivelles, Brabant.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1020
    • Alternate death: 1079

    Notes:

    Called "le Ceinture," the Belted. Count of Louvain and Lorraine.

    Henry married Adelheid. Adelheid (daughter of Eberhard) died Aft 1086. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 11. Henry III of Louvain  Descendancy chart to this point died 1095, Tournai, Hainaut, Belgium.
    2. 12. Ida of Louvain  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Louvain, Brabant, Belgium; died 1139.
    3. 13. (Unknown) of Louvain  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 14. Godfrey I of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1060, Louvain, Brabant, Belgium; died 25 Jan 1139, Jerusalem.

  3. 6.  Eustache II of Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Abt 1080.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1089
    • Alternate death: 1093

    Notes:

    Count of Boulogne. Also known as Eustace aux Gernons (Eustace with the mustaches).

    Fought at Hastings. Wikipedia: "In the following year, probably because he was dissatisfied with his share of the spoil, he assisted the Kentishmen in an attempt to seize Dover Castle. The conspiracy failed, and Eustace was sentenced to forfeit his English fiefs. Subsequently he was reconciled to the Conqueror, who restored a portion of the confiscated lands."

    Eustache married Godgifu of England Bef 1049. Godgifu (daughter of Æthelred II "Unræd", King of England and Emma of Normandy, Queen Consort of England; Queen Consort of Denmark and Norway) was born Abt 1010; died Bef 1049. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 15. Geoffrey of Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1060, of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England; died Aft 1086.

    Eustache married St. Ida of Verdun 1057. St. (daughter of Godfrey "The Bearded" and Doda) was born Abt 1040; died 13 Aug 1113. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 16. Eustache III of Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1125.

  4. 7.  Lambert II of Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1054, Phalempin, Nord, France.

    Notes:

    Count of Lens; Governor of Lille Castle.

    Killed in the battle of Lille.

    Lambert married Alice of Normandy 1054. Alice (daughter of Robert I and (Unknown mistress of Robert I)) was born Abt 1030; died Bef 1090. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 17. Judith of Lens  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1054; died Aft 1086.

  5. 8.  Gerberge de Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1059.

    Gerberge married Frederick of Luxembourg. Frederick (son of Frederick I of Luxembourg and (Unknown daughter of Heribert I)) was born Abt 1003; died Aft 1035. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 18. Jutta of Luxembourg  Descendancy chart to this point


Generation: 4

  1. 9.  Adelheid Descendancy chart to this point (4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 28 Mar 1100.

    Notes:

    Heiress of Orlamünde.

    Adelheid married Adalbert. Adalbert (son of Esiko and Mathilde von Werl-Hövel) was born Abt 1030; died Abt 1080. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 19. Otto  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1075; died 9 Feb 1123.

  2. 10.  Kunigunde Descendancy chart to this point (4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 8 Jun 1140.

    Notes:

    Heiress of Beichlingen.

    Kunigunde married Kuno von Beichlingen. Kuno (son of Otto I von Northeim and Richenza) died 1103. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 20. Liutgard von Beichlingen  Descendancy chart to this point

    Kunigunde married Jaropolk Pjotr Isjaslawitsch Abt 1073. Jaropolk (son of Iziaslav I, Grand Prince of Kiev and Gertrude-Olisava of Poland) was born Bef 1050; died 22 Nov 1087. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 21. Anastasia Jaropolkowna  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1074; died 8 Jan 1159.
    2. 22. (Unknown) von Wladimir  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1076.

  3. 11.  Henry III of Louvain Descendancy chart to this point (5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1095, Tournai, Hainaut, Belgium.

    Notes:

    Count of Leuven.

    Died of wounds sustained at a tournament.

    Henry married Gertrude of Flanders Abt 1090. Gertrude (daughter of Robert I "The Frisian" and Gertrude of Saxony) was born Abt 1070; died 1117. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 23. Adelaide of Louvain  Descendancy chart to this point died Abt 1158.

  4. 12.  Ida of Louvain Descendancy chart to this point (5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Louvain, Brabant, Belgium; died 1139.

    Ida married Baldwin II of Hainaut 1084. Baldwin (son of Baldwin VI and Richilde of Egesheim) was born 1056; died 1098, Anatolia. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 24. Arnould de Hainault  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 25. Ida de Hainaut  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1085; died Aft 1101.
    3. 26. Baldwin III of Hainaut  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1088; died 1120.
    4. 27. Alix of Hainaut  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1098; died Aft 1153.

  5. 13.  (Unknown) of Louvain Descendancy chart to this point (5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    (Unknown) married Arnold I van Aarschot. Arnold died Aft 1135. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 28. Godfried van Aarschot-Rhenen  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1125; died Abt 1160.

  6. 14.  Godfrey I of Brabant Descendancy chart to this point (5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1060, Louvain, Brabant, Belgium; died 25 Jan 1139, Jerusalem.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 25 Jan 1140, Jerusalem

    Notes:

    Duke of Brabant. Count of Louvain. Duke of Lower Lorraine.

    The Bearded ( "A La Barbe"); the Courageous; the Great.

    Godfrey married (Unknown mistress of Godfrey of Brabant). [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 29. Joscelin of Louvain  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Petworth, Sussex, England; died 1180.

    Godfrey married Ida of Chiny and Namur Abt 1100. Ida (daughter of Otto II and Adelaide de Namur) was born Abt 1083; died Between 1117 and 1122. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 30. Godfrey II  Descendancy chart to this point died 1142.
    2. 31. Ida de Louvain  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 27 Jul 1162.
    3. 32. Alice of Louvain, Queen Consort of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1103; died 25 Mar 1151, Afflighem Abbey, Brabant, Belgium; was buried , Reading Abbey, Berkshire, England.

    Godfrey married Clementia of Burgundy Aft 1119. Clementia (daughter of William I "The Great" of Burgundy and Stephanie) was born Abt 1078; died Abt 1133. [Group Sheet]


  7. 15.  Geoffrey of Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1060, of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England; died Aft 1086.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1045
    • Alternate death: 1105

    Notes:

    Many sources show him as a bastard son of Eustace of Boulogne by an unknown mistress. In "The Parentage of Geoffrey fitz Eustace (c. 1045-1105)" (Foundations 10:98, 2018), Kim Anderson and Richard Joscelyne make a good case that he was probably a legitimate son of Eustace by his first wife, Godgifu.

    Was Godfrey the crusader the same Geoffrey that married Beatrice de Mandeville? This claim pops up in many places; people doing personal genealogical research are most likely to encounter it in David H. Kelley's essay in Ancestral Roots, eighth edition (line 158A). The short answer: No.

    Both were sons of Eustace II, albeit by different mothers. The claim that they were a single person doesn't hold up. Todd A. Farmerie: "Murray's analysis takes the sole argument in favor of this connection, that the names Geoffrey and Godfrey were, at the time, synonymous, and shows it to be false. This leaves us with two men with the same father but different names, ending up in different places and conflicting family histories -- one with documented children, the other remembered as unmarried and childless -- without the slightest reason to suggest that they were anything but siblings other than personal preference." Additionally, Boulogne and Bouillon are completely different places. Godfrey/Geoffrey's Boulogne is the one on the north coast of France, now called Boulogne-sur-Mer. The region surrounding it, Boulonnais, became an earldom in the ninth century and was later brought to the crown of England by Maud of Boulogne's marriage to Stephen of Blois.

    Geoffrey married Beatrice de Mandeville Bef 1084. Beatrice (daughter of Geoffrey I de Mandeville and Adeliza de Balts) was born , of Rycote, Oxfordshire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 33. William of Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1085, of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England; died Bef 1130.

  8. 16.  Eustache III of Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1125.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1142, Rumilly-le-Comte Priory, Rumilly, Pas-de-Calais, France

    Notes:

    Count of Boulogne and Lens.

    Died as a monk at Rumilly-le Comte Priory, to which he retired by 1125.

    Eustache married Mary of Scotland. Mary (daughter of Malcolm III Canmore, King of Scotland (Alba) and St. Margaret of Scotland) died 18 Apr 1118. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 34. Maud of Boulogne, Queen Consort of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1072; died 30 May 1151; was buried , Faversham Abbey, Kent, England.

  9. 17.  Judith of Lens Descendancy chart to this point (7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1054; died Aft 1086.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Abt 1090

    Notes:

    AR8 says (in a note to 148:22) that, contrary to what was stated in previous editions, Judith was "Adelaide's child by her first marriage to Enguerrand II", but Stewart Baldwin, in the Henry Project's discussion of the three marriages of William I's sister Adelaide, assembles a convincing argument that Judith was a daughter of Lambert of Lens after all. A 19 Nov 2009 post to SGM by John P. Ravilious adds further evidence for the identification of Lambert as her father.

    To be fair, Peter Stewart is unconvinced.

    Judith married Waltheof Aft Jan 1070. Waltheof (son of Siward and Ælfled of Bernicia) was born 1027, of Potton, Bedfordshire, England; died 31 May 1076, Winchester, Hampshire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 35. Alice of Northumberland  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1126.
    2. 36. Maud of Northumberland  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1072; died 1130; was buried , Scone, Perthshire, Scotland.

  10. 18.  Jutta of Luxembourg Descendancy chart to this point (8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Also called Judith.

    Jutta married Walram. Walram was born Abt 1030; died 1082. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 37. Heinrich I  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1059; died 1119.


Generation: 5

  1. 19.  Otto Descendancy chart to this point (9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1075; died 9 Feb 1123.

    Notes:

    Count of Ballenstedt.

    Otto married Eilica von Sachsen. Eilica (daughter of Magnus of Saxony and Sophia of Hungary) was born Abt 1080; died 16 Jan 1142. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 38. Albrecht  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1100; died 18 Nov 1170.

  2. 20.  Liutgard von Beichlingen Descendancy chart to this point (10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Liutgard married Wilhelm of Luxembourg. Wilhelm (son of Conrad I of Luxembourg and Clementia of Aquitaine) died 23 Jan 1130. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 39. Liutgard von Luxemburg  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1170.

  3. 21.  Anastasia Jaropolkowna Descendancy chart to this point (10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1074; died 8 Jan 1159.

    Anastasia married Gleb Wseslawitsch. Gleb (son of Wseslaw I Brjatscheslawitsch, Grand Prince of Kiev) was born Abt 1053; died 1118. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 40. Wolodar Glebowitsch  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1167.

  4. 22.  (Unknown) von Wladimir Descendancy chart to this point (10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1076.

    Notes:

    Possibly named Mechtild. Heiress of Beichlingen.

    (Unknown) married Günther I Aft 1087. Günther died 1109. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 41. Sizzo  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1093; died 1160.

  5. 23.  Adelaide of Louvain Descendancy chart to this point (11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Abt 1158.

    Adelaide married Simon I of Lorraine. Simon (son of Thierri II of Lorraine and Hedwig of Formbach) was born 1076; died 13 Apr 1138. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 42. Agatha of Lorraine  Descendancy chart to this point died 1147.
    2. 43. Matthias I of Lorraine  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1119; died 13 May 1176.

  6. 24.  Arnould de Hainault Descendancy chart to this point (12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Arnould married Beatrix van Ath. (daughter of Walter van Ath and Ade de Montdidier) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 44. Eustache de Hainault  Descendancy chart to this point died 1192, Palestine.

  7. 25.  Ida de Hainaut Descendancy chart to this point (12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1085; died Aft 1101.

    Ida married Thomas de Marle Abt 1100. Thomas (son of Enguerrand I de Coucy and Ade de Roucy) was born Abt 1060; died Between 1129 and 1130. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 45. Basilie de Coucy  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1156.

  8. 26.  Baldwin III of Hainaut Descendancy chart to this point (12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1088; died 1120.

    Notes:

    Count of Hainaut.

    Baldwin married Yolande von Wassenberg Abt 1107. Yolande (daughter of Gerhard I von Wassenberg) was born Abt 1090, of Guelders, Netherlands; died 1155. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 46. Ida de Hainaut  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 47. Richilde de Hainault  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 48. Baldwin IV of Hainaut  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1110; died 8 Nov 1171.

  9. 27.  Alix of Hainaut Descendancy chart to this point (12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Bef 1098; died Aft 1153.

    Notes:

    Also called Aleidis.

    Alix married Nicolas II de Rumigny Between 1115 and 1120. (son of Nicolas I de Rumigny) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 49. Nicolas III de Rumigny  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 50. Béatrix de Rumigny  Descendancy chart to this point

  10. 28.  Godfried van Aarschot-Rhenen Descendancy chart to this point (13.(Unknown)4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Bef 1125; died Abt 1160.

    Godfried married Sophia. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 51. Dirk van Rhenen  Descendancy chart to this point

  11. 29.  Joscelin of Louvain Descendancy chart to this point (14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Petworth, Sussex, England; died 1180.

    Notes:

    Castellan of Arundel.

    Joscelin of Louvain's mother may have been Godfrey I's second wife Clementia of Burgundy.

    Joscelin married Agnes de Percy Abt 1157. Agnes (daughter of William de Percy and Alice de Tonbridge) died Bef 13 Oct 1204; was buried , Whitby, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 52. Henry de Percy  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Petworth, Sussex, England; died Bef 29 Sep 1198.
    2. 53. Maud de Percy  Descendancy chart to this point

  12. 30.  Godfrey II Descendancy chart to this point (14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1142.

    Notes:

    Count of Lovain.

    Godfrey married Luitgarde of Sulzbach 1139. Luitgarde (daughter of Berengar I of Sulzbach and Adelheid von Diessen) died Aft 1162. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 54. Godfrey III  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1141; died 10 Aug 1190; was buried , St. Peter's Church, Leuven, Belgium.

  13. 31.  Ida de Louvain Descendancy chart to this point (14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 27 Jul 1162.

    Ida married Arnold II. Arnold (son of Arnold I and Bertha) was born Between 1105 and 1106; died 20 Feb 1147. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 55. Dietrich IV  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1130; died 1172.

  14. 32.  Alice of Louvain, Queen Consort of England Descendancy chart to this point (14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1103; died 25 Mar 1151, Afflighem Abbey, Brabant, Belgium; was buried , Reading Abbey, Berkshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Buried: Afflighem Abbey, Brabant, Belgium
    • Alternate death: 26 Mar 1151, Afflighem Abbey, Brabant, Belgium
    • Alternate death: 23 Apr 1151, Afflighem Abbey, Brabant, Belgium

    Notes:

    Also called Adeliza; Adelize; Athelice; Aeliz; Aleide; Aleyda; Aelidis; Adelide; Adelidis; Adelaidis.

    In 1150 she retired to a nunnery at Afflighem, in South Brabant, where she died the next year.

    Alice married Henry I, King of England 29 Jan 1121, Windsor, Berkshire, England. Henry (son of William I, King of England and Matilda of Flanders, Queen Consort of England) was born 1068; died 1 Dec 1135, Lyon-la-Forêt, near Rouen, Normandy, France; was buried , Reading Abbey, Berkshire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Alice married William d'Aubigny Between Dec 1136 and Aug 1139. William (son of William d'Aubigny and Maud le Bigod) was born , of Buckenham, Norfolk, England; died 4 Oct 1176, Waverley Abbey, Surrey, England; was buried , Wymondham Priory, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 56. William d'Aubigny  Descendancy chart to this point died 24 Dec 1193; was buried , Wymondham Priory, Norfolk, England.

  15. 33.  William of Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1085, of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England; died Bef 1130.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Abt 1159

    William married . Unknown [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 57. Rohese de Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England; died Bef 30 May 1151; was buried , Holy Trinity Church, London, England.
    2. 58. Faramus of Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1105, of Tingry, Pas de Calais, France; died Between 1183 and 1184.

  16. 34.  Maud of Boulogne, Queen Consort of England Descendancy chart to this point (16.Eustache4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1072; died 30 May 1151; was buried , Faversham Abbey, Kent, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1105
    • Alternate death: 3 Jul 1151, Hedingham Castle, Kent, England

    Notes:

    Suo jure Countess of Boulogne and Lens.

    Maud married Stephen of Blois, King Of England 1125. Stephen (son of Etienne Henri and Adela of Normandy) was born Abt 1092, Blois, Lois-et-Cher, France; died 25 Oct 1154, Dover, Kent, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 59. Eustace IV  Descendancy chart to this point died 10 Aug 1153; was buried , Faversham, Kent, England.
    2. 60. Marie of England  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1136; died 1182, Monastery of Sainte-Austreberthe, Montreuil, France.

  17. 35.  Alice of Northumberland Descendancy chart to this point (17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1126.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1141

    Notes:

    Also called Alice Waltheof.

    Alice married Ralph de Tony 1103. Ralph (son of Radulf III de Tosny and Isabel de Montfort) was born Abt 1081; died 1126; was buried , Châtillon-les-Conches Abbey, Eure, Normandy, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 61. Margaret de Toeni  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1185.
    2. 62. Roger de Tony  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1104, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died Aft 29 Sep 1158.

  18. 36.  Maud of Northumberland Descendancy chart to this point (17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1072; died 1130; was buried , Scone, Perthshire, Scotland.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Between 1130 and 1131
    • Alternate death: 1131
    • Alternate death: Bef 1132

    Notes:

    Also called Maud of Huntingdon.

    Maud married Simon I de Senlis Bef 1091. Simon (son of Landri de Senlis and Ermengarde) died Abt 1111, La Charite-sur-Loire, Nievre, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 63. Maud de Senlis  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1158.
    2. 64. St. Waltheof  Descendancy chart to this point died 3 Aug 1159.
    3. 65. Simon II de Senlis  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1103; died Aug 1153; was buried , St. Andrew's, Fife, Scotland.

    Maud married David I, King of Scotland Bef Jul 1113. David (son of Malcolm III Canmore, King of Scotland (Alba) and St. Margaret of Scotland) was born Abt 1080; died 24 May 1153, Carlisle, Cumberland, England; was buried , Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 66. Henry of Scotland  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1114; died 12 Jun 1152; was buried , Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

  19. 37.  Heinrich I Descendancy chart to this point (18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1059; died 1119.

    Notes:

    Count of Limburg. Duke of Lower Lorraine.

    Heinrich married Adelheid von Pottenstein. Adelheid (daughter of Boto von Pottenstein and Judith von Schweinfurt) died Aft 13 Aug 1106. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 67. Matilda of Limburg  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 68. Adelheid von Limburg  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 6 Feb 1146.
    3. 69. Agnes von Limburg  Descendancy chart to this point died 1136.

    Heinrich married (Unknown) von Arlon. (daughter of Walram II) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 70. Walram III "Paganus"  Descendancy chart to this point died 6 Aug 1139.


Generation: 6

  1. 38.  Albrecht Descendancy chart to this point (19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1100; died 18 Nov 1170.

    Notes:

    Called "the Bear." Duke of Saxony. Margrave of the Nordmark in 1134. Margrave of Brandenburg.

    Albrecht married Sophia von Winzenburg Abt 1125. Sophia (daughter of Hermann I and Hedwig von Krain und Istrien) died 8 Jun 1160. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 71. Adalbert  Descendancy chart to this point died 1171.
    2. 72. Otto I  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 21 Jun 1126; died 7 Mar 1184.
    3. 73. Hedwig von Brandenburg  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1140; died Bef 1 Apr 1203; was buried 1 Apr 1203, Altzella Abbey, near Nossen, Saxony, Germany.
    4. 74. Bernhard III  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1140; died 9 Feb 1212.

  2. 39.  Liutgard von Luxemburg Descendancy chart to this point (20.Liutgard5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1170.

    Liutgard married Henry II de Grandpré. Henry (son of Henry I de Grandpré and Ermentrude de Joux) died Between 1188 and 1190. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 75. Henry III de Grandpré  Descendancy chart to this point died 1211.

  3. 40.  Wolodar Glebowitsch Descendancy chart to this point (21.Anastasia5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1167.

    Notes:

    Prince of Minsk.

    Wolodar married Richiza of Poland. Richiza (daughter of Boleslaw III "Wrymouth", King of Poland and Salome von Berg-Schelklingen) was born 12 Apr 1116; died Aft 25 Dec 1155. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 76. Sofie of Polock  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1140; died 5 May 1198.

  4. 41.  Sizzo Descendancy chart to this point (22.(Unknown)5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1093; died 1160.

    Notes:

    Count of Schwarzburg. Count of Käfernburg.

    Sizzo married . Unknown [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 77. Mechtilde von Schwarzburg-Käfernburg  Descendancy chart to this point died Between 1191 and 1192.

  5. 42.  Agatha of Lorraine Descendancy chart to this point (23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1147.

    Agatha married Renaud III of Burgundy. Renaud (son of Stephen I of Burgundy and Beatrix) was born Abt 1093; died 1148. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 78. Beatrice of Burgundy  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1144; died 15 Nov 1184, Jouhe, Jura, France.

  6. 43.  Matthias I of Lorraine Descendancy chart to this point (23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1119; died 13 May 1176.

    Notes:

    Duke of Lorraine.

    Matthias married Bertha of Swabia Abt 1138. Bertha (daughter of Frederick II von Hohenstaufen and Judith of Bavaria) was born 1123; died Aft Mar 1195. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 79. Judith de Lorraine  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 80. Frédéric I  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1143; died 1207.
    3. 81. Alice of Lorraine  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1145; died 1200.

  7. 44.  Eustache de Hainault Descendancy chart to this point (24.Arnould5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1192, Palestine.

    Eustache married Marie de Morlanwelz. Marie (daughter of Jean de Morlanwelz) died Bef 1174. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 82. Eustache le Valet  Descendancy chart to this point died Jul 1186.
    2. 83. Ada de Roeulx  Descendancy chart to this point

  8. 45.  Basilie de Coucy Descendancy chart to this point (25.Ida5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1156.

    Notes:

    Also called Béatrix.

    Basilie married Evrard III de Breteuil. Evrard (son of Valeran II de Breteuil and Ivette) died Abt 7 Jan 1148, Laodicea, Anatolia. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 84. Valeran III de Breteuil  Descendancy chart to this point died Abt 1162.

  9. 46.  Ida de Hainaut Descendancy chart to this point (26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Ida married Roger de Tony Abt 9 Aug 1138. Roger (son of Ralph de Tony and Alice of Northumberland) was born Abt 1104, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died Aft 29 Sep 1158. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 85. Godehilde de Tony  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1186.
    2. 86. Ralph de Tony  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1140, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died 1162.

  10. 47.  Richilde de Hainault Descendancy chart to this point (26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Richilde married Everard II Radulf de Mortagne Bef 1144. (son of Walter de Mortagne and Petronella) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 87. Everard III Radulf de Mortagne  Descendancy chart to this point

  11. 48.  Baldwin IV of Hainaut Descendancy chart to this point (26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1110; died 8 Nov 1171.

    Notes:

    Count of Hainaut.

    With Baldwin IV of Hainaut and his wife Alix de Namur, the line back from TNH's probable Quebec "gateway ancestor" Jean Sicard de Carufel joins up with the ancestry of proven TNH gateway ancestor Olive Welby.

    Count of Hainault.

    Baldwin married Alix de Namur Abt 1130. Alix (daughter of Godfrey of Namur and Ermisende of Luxembourg) died Jul 1169. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 88. Agnès de Hainault  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1174.
    2. 89. Laurence de Hainault  Descendancy chart to this point died 9 Jun 1181.
    3. 90. Jolande of Hainaut  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft Nov 1202.
    4. 91. Baldwin V of Flanders  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1150; died 17 Dec 1195.

  12. 49.  Nicolas III de Rumigny Descendancy chart to this point (27.Alix5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Mentioned 1132.

    Nicolas married Eve de Chièvres 'dite Domizon Aft 1150. Eve (daughter of Guy de Chièvres and Ida van Ath) was born Abt 1110. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 92. Julienne de Rumigny  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 93. Nicholas IV de Rumigny  Descendancy chart to this point died Abt 19 Feb 1205.

  13. 50.  Béatrix de Rumigny Descendancy chart to this point (27.Alix5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Mentioned 1177.

    Béatrix married Gossuin III de Mons. Gossuin (son of Gossuin II de Mons and Ida van Ath) died Bef 1177. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 94. Alix de Mons  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1207.

  14. 51.  Dirk van Rhenen Descendancy chart to this point (28.Godfried5, 13.(Unknown)4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Burgrave of Utrecht,

    Dirk married . Unknown [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 95. Sophia van Rhenen  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1203.

  15. 52.  Henry de Percy Descendancy chart to this point (29.Joscelin5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Petworth, Sussex, England; died Bef 29 Sep 1198.

    Notes:

    He took his mother's name.

    Henry married Isabel de Brus. Isabel (daughter of Adam II de Brus and Juetta de Arches) was born , of Skelton, Yorkshire, England; died Aft 1230. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 96. William de Percy  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1193, of Topcliffe, Yorkshire, England; died Bef 28 Jul 1245; was buried , Sallay Abbey, Yorkshire, England.

  16. 53.  Maud de Percy Descendancy chart to this point (29.Joscelin5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Maud married John d'Eiville. John (son of Robert d'Eiville and Juliana de Montfort) was born , of Egmanton, Nottinghamshire, England; died Aft Jun 1228. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 97. Robert d'Eiville  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Egmanton, Nottinghamshire, England; died Aft 1242.

  17. 54.  Godfrey III Descendancy chart to this point (30.Godfrey5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1141; died 10 Aug 1190; was buried , St. Peter's Church, Leuven, Belgium.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1142
    • Alternate death: 21 Aug 1190

    Notes:

    Count of Louvain. Duke of Lorraine. Duke of Brabant.

    Godfrey married Imagina of Looz. (daughter of Ludwig I and Agnes von Metz) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 98. Godfrey de Lovaine  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 26 Apr 1226.

    Godfrey married Margaret von Limburg 1158. Margaret (daughter of Henry II and Maud von Saffenberg) died 1172. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 99. Henri I of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1158; died 5 Sep 1235, Koln, Germany; was buried , St. Peter's, Leuven, Belgium.

  18. 55.  Dietrich IV Descendancy chart to this point (31.Ida5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1130; died 1172.

    Notes:

    Count of Cleves.

    Dietrich married Adelheid von Sulzbach. (daughter of Gebhard III of Sulzbach and Matilda of Bavaria) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 100. Dietrich V  Descendancy chart to this point was born Between 1160 and 1170; died Bef 1202.
    2. 101. Arnold III von Kleve  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1163; died Bef 1200.

  19. 56.  William d'Aubigny Descendancy chart to this point (32.Alice5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 24 Dec 1193; was buried , Wymondham Priory, Norfolk, England.

    Notes:

    Earl of Arundel, also styled earl of Sussex. Hereditary Chief Butler of England; Privy Councillor; Constable of Windsor Castle 1191-3.

    According to Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans (citation details below), he was a crusader.

    "William d'Aubigny, Earl of Sussex, s. and h., n 1176/7, was confirmed in that dignity, but the Castle and Honour of Arundel having, in accordance with the policy of Henry II, been retained by the Crown, on the death of the last holder, he did not obtain restoration of them till Richard I restored them to him, 27 June 1190, when (according to the admission of 1433 abovenamed) he became Earl of Arundel. He was, however, styled Earl of Arundel before he received possession of the Castle and Honour, namely, on 18 Sep. 1189, and on 26 Nov. of the same year he witnessed King Richard's Charter as 'Will. Earl of Arundel.' He received also at the same time, the third penny of the pleas of Sussex in the precise words of the grant made to his father. In 1191 he was made Custos of Windsor Castle, and in 1194 one of the Receivers of the money raised for the King's ransom. He m. Maud, widow of Roger (de Clare), Earl of Hertford (who had d. 1173), da. and h. of James de St. Hilaire du Harcouet, by Aveline, his wife. He d. 24 Dec. 1193, and was bur. at Wymondham Priory." [Complete Peerage I:235-36]

    William married Maud de St. Hilary. Maud (daughter of James de St. Hilary du Harcourt and Aveline) was born , of Field Dalling, Norfolk, England; died 24 Dec 1193; was buried , Priory of Great Carbrooke, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 102. William d'Aubigny  Descendancy chart to this point died 1 Feb 1221, Cainell, near Rome; was buried , Wymondham Priory, Norfolk, England.

  20. 57.  Rohese de Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Carshalton, Epsom, Surrey, England; died Bef 30 May 1151; was buried , Holy Trinity Church, London, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1153

    Notes:

    "Richard de Lucy's only known wife was Rose, who died sometime before Queen Maud's death in 1152. Queen Maud and her son and heir, Eustace, witnessed a notification by Richard that he had, 'granted to the canons of Holy Trinity, London, in frank almoin, 20s. yearly rent from Niweton [Newington] for the soul of Roheis his wife, who is buried in their church...'" ["A Rose by Any Other Name: Another Daughter of Richard de Lucy," citation details below. Notwithstanding this, King Stephen's wife Maud actually died in 1151.]

    Rohese married Richard de Lucy Between 1130 and 1135. Richard (son of Aveline) was born Between 1105 and 1110, Luce, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; died 14 Jul 1179, Lesnes Abbey, Kent, England; was buried , Lesnes Abbey, Kent, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 103. Alice de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1219.
    2. 104. Maud de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1170.
    3. 105. Aveline de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1219.
    4. 106. Godfrey de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point
    5. 107. Reynold de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point died Abt Jan 1199.
    6. 108. Rose de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point
    7. 109. Geoffrey de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Newington, Kent, England; died Bef 1179.

  21. 58.  Faramus of Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1105, of Tingry, Pas de Calais, France; died Between 1183 and 1184.

    Notes:

    Also called Faramus of Tingry.

    Faramus married Maud. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 110. Sibyl of Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point died Abt 1208.

  22. 59.  Eustace IV Descendancy chart to this point (34.Maud5, 16.Eustache4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 10 Aug 1153; was buried , Faversham, Kent, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 16 Aug 1153

    Notes:

    Count of Boulogne, 1150.

    Ancestral Roots (8th ed.) has him born circa 1120, but that obviously can't be right. His parents' marriage is well known to have taken place in 1125; if he had been born before that, he most certainly would not have been regarded as the heir apparent after Stephen seized the crown in 1135. Wikipedia gives him the much more plausible birthdate of "c. 1129".

    Eustace married Constance of France. Constance (daughter of Louis VI, King of France and Alix of Savoy, Queen Consort of France) died 16 Aug 1176, Rheims, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France. [Group Sheet]


  23. 60.  Marie of England Descendancy chart to this point (34.Maud5, 16.Eustache4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1136; died 1182, Monastery of Sainte-Austreberthe, Montreuil, France.

    Notes:

    Also called Mary of Blois. Abbess of Romsey; Countess of Boulogne.

    Marie married Mathieu of Flanders 1160. Mathieu (son of Thierri III of Lorraine and Sibyl of Anjou) was born Abt 1138; died 25 Jul 1173, Driencourt, Somme, Picardy, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 111. Ida of Flanders  Descendancy chart to this point died 1216.
    2. 112. Machtild of Boulogne  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1169; died Between 1210 and 1211; was buried , Afflighem Abbey, Brabant, Belgium.

  24. 61.  Margaret de Toeni Descendancy chart to this point (35.Alice5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1185.

    Notes:

    Also known as Isabel de Toeni.

    Margaret married Walter de Clifford. Walter (son of Richard fitz Pons and Maud of Gloucester) was born Abt 1108, of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died 1190. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 113. Lucy de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Clifford, Herefordshire, England.
    2. 114. Rosamund Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1150; died Abt 1176.
    3. 115. Walter II de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1150, Clifford's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died 1216.

  25. 62.  Roger de Tony Descendancy chart to this point (35.Alice5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1104, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died Aft 29 Sep 1158.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Abt 1160

    Notes:

    Also called Roger de Conches.

    Roger married Ida de Hainaut Abt 9 Aug 1138. (daughter of Baldwin III of Hainaut and Yolande von Wassenberg) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 85. Godehilde de Tony  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1186.
    2. 86. Ralph de Tony  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1140, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died 1162.

  26. 63.  Maud de Senlis Descendancy chart to this point (36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1158.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1140
    • Alternate death: Between 1158 and 1163
    • Alternate death: Bef 1165

    Notes:

    Also called Maud de St. Liz.

    Maud married Robert fitz Richard 1112. Robert (son of Richard fitz Gilbert and Rohese Giffard) died Bef 1136; was buried , St. Neot's Priory, Cambridgeshire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 116. Maud de Senlis  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1125; died Aft 1185.
    2. 117. Walter fitz Robert  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1134, of Little Dunmow, Essex, England; died 1198, Little Dunmow, Essex, England; was buried , Dunmow Priory, Little Dunmow, Essex, England.

    Maud married Saher I de Quincy Aft 1136. Saher was born , of Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, England; died Between 1156 and 1158. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 118. Robert de Quincy  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Tranant, East Lothian, Scotland; died Aft 20 Aug 1201.
    2. 119. Alice de Senlis  Descendancy chart to this point died 1204.

  27. 64.  St. Waltheof Descendancy chart to this point (36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 3 Aug 1159.

    Notes:

    Prior of Kirkham 1145; Abbot of Melrose 1148-59.


  28. 65.  Simon II de Senlis Descendancy chart to this point (36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1103; died Aug 1153; was buried , St. Andrew's, Fife, Scotland.

    Notes:

    Earl of Huntingdon and Northampton.

    From the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:

    His career was complicated by rivalry with the Scottish royal house over the honour of Huntingdon, the inheritance of his mother, Maud. He was a minor when his father died between 1111 and 1113, and custody of the estate, with the rank of earl, passed to Maud's second husband, David, future king of Scots. Following Maud's death in 1131, by which date Senlis had reached his majority, King David remained in control, despite Senlis's demands for justice. King Stephen then recognized Henry, son of David and Maud, as earl of Huntingdon in 1136 and again in 1139; and although Senlis had probably held the honour and earldom during Henry's temporary forfeiture (January 1138 – April 1139), it was only on the final collapse of Stephen's Scottish diplomacy in the summer of 1141 that his claims were fully realized. His comital standing remains a source of much confusion. The argument that in 1136 Northampton was 'detached from the earldom of Huntingdon and made a separate earldom for Simon' is difficult to accept. (Some modern authorities have even seen him as an earl of Northumberland — he was never such.) His earliest known appearance as earl of Northampton occurs in 1138 or early in 1139; and the evidence suggests that 'Northampton' and 'Huntingdon' were alternative names for the same earldom, which normally, though not invariably, also embraced Bedfordshire and Cambridgeshire. One of Stephen's foremost adherents, Senlis fought at the battle of Lincoln on 2 February 1141, and was a commander of the victorious royalist army at Winchester the following September. His comital authority extended over Northamptonshire, Huntingdonshire, and Bedfordshire, and within the first two shires he exercised regalian rights and assumed full responsibility for county government, clearly at Stephen's bidding. Jocelin of Furness's life of Abbot Waldef of Melrose, Senlis's younger brother, contains important information on his career and character. Henry of Huntingdon believed that he and Eustace, Stephen's eldest son, were the most uncompromising opponents of Henry Plantagenet in 1153, and that peace was possible only because of their sudden deaths. He was a major benefactor of numerous religious institutions, and founded a Cistercian abbey at Sawtry in 1146–7, as well as a Cluniac nunnery, Delapré Abbey. He married Isabella, or Elizabeth, daughter of Robert, earl of Leicester, and was Leicester's named ally in his famous treaty with the earl of Chester c. 1150. He and his wife, who as a widow married Gervase Paynel (d. 1194) of Dudley, had a son and at least one daughter: Simon (III) de Senlis (d. 1184), the last Senlis holder of the earldoms of Northampton and of Huntingdon, and Isabel, who married William Mauduit (d. 1194) of Hanslope. Simon (II) de Senlis died in August 1153 in Northampton and was buried in St Andrew's Priory, Northampton.

    Simon married Isabel of Leicester Bef 1138. Isabel (daughter of Robert of Meulan and Amice de Gael) died Aft 1190. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 120. Isabel de Senlis  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1210.

  29. 66.  Henry of Scotland Descendancy chart to this point (36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1114; died 12 Jun 1152; was buried , Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1115

    Notes:

    Earl of Northumberland and of Huntingdon. Also called Eanric mac Dabid; Henry of Huntingdon.

    "Henry, earl of Northumberland (c. 1115–1152), prince, was the only surviving adult son of David I (c. 1085–1153), king of Scots, and his queen, Maud (or Matilda) (d. 1131), widow of Simon (I) de Senlis. From c. 1128 his name was linked with his father's in governance, and in 1144 he appears as rex designatus ('king-designate'). Although the exact significance of this style is unclear, it seems certain that he had formally been proclaimed as future king; and in practice from the 1130s 'David's was a dual reign...with joint or at least coadjutorial royal government' (G. W. S. Barrow, ed., The charters of King David I: the written acts of David I king of Scots, 1124–53, and of his son Henry earl of Northumberland, 1139–52, 1999, p. 34). This partnership--though Henry was self-evidently the junior partner--had momentous consequences for the Scots monarchy's power and prestige. Henry shared fully in David's policies of modernization by which Scotland began to be transformed into a European-style kingdom, and above all he was inseparably associated with his father in furthering historic Scottish claims to 'northern England'. Leading vast armies against King Stephen, they made extensive gains at his expense." [Oxford Dictionary of National Biography]

    Henry married Ada de Warenne Aft 9 Apr 1139. Ada (daughter of William II de Warenne and Isabel de Vermandois) died 1178. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 121. Aleida of Scotland  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 11 Jan 1204.
    2. 122. William I "The Lion", King of Scotland  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1142; died 4 Dec 1214, Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland; was buried , Arbroath Abbey, Angus, Scotland.
    3. 123. Margaret of Huntingdon  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1145; died 1201; was buried , Sawtrey Abbey, Huntingdonshire, England.
    4. 124. David of Scotland  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1152; died 17 Jun 1219, Jerdelay, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England; was buried , Sawtrey Abbey, Huntingdonshire, England.

  30. 67.  Matilda of Limburg Descendancy chart to this point (37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Matilda married Henry I de la Roche. (son of Albert III and Ida) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 125. Matilda de la Roche  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 126. Béatrix de Namur  Descendancy chart to this point

  31. 68.  Adelheid von Limburg Descendancy chart to this point (37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 6 Feb 1146.

    Adelheid married Friedrich von Arnsberg. Friedrich (son of Konrad von Arnsberg and Mathilde von Northeim) was born Abt 1075; died 11 Feb 1124. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 127. Jutta von Arnsberg  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1103; died Aft 1154.

  32. 69.  Agnes von Limburg Descendancy chart to this point (37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1136.

    Agnes married Friedrich IV von Putelendorf. Friedrich (son of Friedrich III von Goseck and Adelheid von Stade) was born Abt 1085; died Abt 26 Jun 1125. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 128. Bertha von Putelendorf  Descendancy chart to this point died 1190.

  33. 70.  Walram III "Paganus" Descendancy chart to this point (37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 6 Aug 1139.

    Notes:

    Count of Limburg. Count of Arlon.

    Probably nicknamed "Paganus" due to a late baptism.

    Walram married Judith von Wassenberg Abt 1110. Judith (daughter of Gerhard I von Wassenberg) was born 1090; died 24 Jun 1151. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 129. Henry II  Descendancy chart to this point died Aug 1167, Rome.


Generation: 7

  1. 71.  Adalbert Descendancy chart to this point (38.Albrecht6, 19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1171.

    Notes:

    Count of Ballenstädt.

    Adalbert married Adelheid von Meissen Aft 1157. (daughter of Konrad I and Liutgart von Ravenstein) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 130. Gertrud von Ballenstädt  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1194.

  2. 72.  Otto I Descendancy chart to this point (38.Albrecht6, 19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 21 Jun 1126; died 7 Mar 1184.

    Notes:

    Margrave of Brandenburg.

    Otto married Adelheid. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 131. Albrecht II  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1177; died 25 Feb 1220.

  3. 73.  Hedwig von Brandenburg Descendancy chart to this point (38.Albrecht6, 19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1140; died Bef 1 Apr 1203; was buried 1 Apr 1203, Altzella Abbey, near Nossen, Saxony, Germany.

    Hedwig married Otto Abt 1155. Otto (son of Konrad I and Liutgart von Ravenstein) was born 1125; died 18 Feb 1190; was buried , Altzella Abbey, near Nossen, Saxony, Germany. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 132. Adelheid von Meissen  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1160; died 1 Feb 1211.
    2. 133. Dietrich IV  Descendancy chart to this point was born 11 Mar 1162; died 2 Feb 1221.

  4. 74.  Bernhard III Descendancy chart to this point (38.Albrecht6, 19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1140; died 9 Feb 1212.

    Notes:

    Duke of Saxony.

    Bernhard married Judith of Poland. Judith (daughter of Mieszko III, High Duke of Poland and Elisabeth of Hungary) was born Abt 1152; died Aft 1201. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 134. Heinrich I von Anhalt  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1170; died Between 1251 and 1252.
    2. 135. Albrecht I  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1180; died 8 Nov 1261.

  5. 75.  Henry III de Grandpré Descendancy chart to this point (39.Liutgard6, 20.Liutgard5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1211.

    Notes:

    Count of Grandpré.

    Henry married Isabeau de Coucy. (daughter of Raoul I de Coucy and Agnès de Hainault) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 136. Henry IV de Grandpré  Descendancy chart to this point died 1229.

  6. 76.  Sofie of Polock Descendancy chart to this point (40.Wolodar6, 21.Anastasia5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1140; died 5 May 1198.

    Sofie married Valdemar I den Store, King of Denmark 1157. Valdemar (son of St. Canute Lavard and Ingeborg of Kiev) was born 14 Jan 1131; died 12 May 1182, Vordingborg, Denmark. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 137. Valdemar II Sejr, King of Denmark  Descendancy chart to this point was born 28 Jun 1170; died 28 Mar 1241.
    2. 138. Helene of Denmark  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1180; died 22 Nov 1233.
    3. 139. Richiza of Denmark  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1190; died 8 May 1220; was buried , Ringsted, Zealand, Denmark.

  7. 77.  Mechtilde von Schwarzburg-Käfernburg Descendancy chart to this point (41.Sizzo6, 22.(Unknown)5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Between 1191 and 1192.

    Mechtilde married Adolf II of Holstein. Adolf (son of Adolf I von Schauenburg and Hildewa) was born Abt 1128; died 6 Jul 1164. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 140. Adolf III of Holstein  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1160; died 3 Jan 1225.

  8. 78.  Beatrice of Burgundy Descendancy chart to this point (42.Agatha6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1144; died 15 Nov 1184, Jouhe, Jura, France.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 15 Nov 1185

    Beatrice married Frederick Barbarossa, Holy Roman Emperor 9 Jun 1156, Würzburg, Germany. Frederick (son of Frederick II von Hohenstaufen and Judith of Bavaria) was born 1122; died 10 Jun 1190, Saleph River, Cilicia, Anatolia. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 141. Heinrich VI, Holy Roman Emperor  Descendancy chart to this point was born Nov 1165; died 28 Sep 1197, Messina, Sicily.
    2. 142. Otto II von Hohenstaufen  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1167; died 2 Jan 1200.
    3. 143. Philip II, King of Germany  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1177; died 21 Jun 1208, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany.

  9. 79.  Judith de Lorraine Descendancy chart to this point (43.Matthias6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Judith married Stephen II of Burgundy. Stephen (son of William IV of Burgundy and Poncette de Traves) died Aft 21 Jul 1173. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 144. Stephen III of Burgundy  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1172; died 16 Mar 1241.

  10. 80.  Frédéric I Descendancy chart to this point (43.Matthias6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1143; died 1207.

    Notes:

    Duke of Lorraine.

    Frédéric married Ludmilla of Poland. Ludmilla (daughter of Mieszko III, High Duke of Poland and Elisabeth of Hungary) was born Abt 1150; died 1223. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 145. Frédéric II  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1172; died 10 Oct 1213.

  11. 81.  Alice of Lorraine Descendancy chart to this point (43.Matthias6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1145; died 1200.

    Alice married Hugh III 1165. Hugh (son of Odo II of Burgundy and Marie de Champagne) was born Abt 1148; died 25 Aug 1192, Tyre; was buried , Abbey of Cîteaux, Côte-d'Or, Dijon, Burgundy, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 146. Odo III of Burgundy  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1166; died 6 Jul 1218, Lyon, Rhone, France.
    2. 147. Alexander of Burgundy  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1170; died Abt 6 Sep 1205.

  12. 82.  Eustache le Valet Descendancy chart to this point (44.Eustache6, 24.Arnould5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Jul 1186.

    Notes:

    Lord of Roeulx.

    Eustache married Bertha de Gavre. (daughter of Rasso III de Gavre and Eve de Chièvres 'dite Domizon) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 148. Eustache Canivet  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1224.

  13. 83.  Ada de Roeulx Descendancy chart to this point (44.Eustache6, 24.Arnould5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Ada married Nikolaus van Boulaere. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 149. Aleid van Boulaere  Descendancy chart to this point

  14. 84.  Valeran III de Breteuil Descendancy chart to this point (45.Basilie6, 25.Ida5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Abt 1162.

    Valeran married Holdeburge. Holdeburge died Aft 24 Jun 1156. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 150. Mathilde de Breteuil  Descendancy chart to this point died 14 Mar 1208.

  15. 85.  Godehilde de Tony Descendancy chart to this point (46.Ida6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1186.

    Notes:

    Also called Godeheut, Godehold.

    Godehilde married William de Mohun. William (son of William de Mohun and Agnes de Gant) was born , of Dunster, Williton, Somerset, England; died 1176. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 151. William de Mohun  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1156, of Dunster, Williton, Somerset, England; died Oct 1193.

  16. 86.  Ralph de Tony Descendancy chart to this point (46.Ida6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1140, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died 1162.

    Notes:

    Also called Ralph de Conches.

    Ralph married Margaret of Leicester Aft 1155. Margaret (daughter of Robert of Meulan and Amice de Gael) was born Abt 1125; died Aft 1185. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 152. Roger de Tony  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died Jan 1209.
    2. 153. Ida de Tony  Descendancy chart to this point

  17. 87.  Everard III Radulf de Mortagne Descendancy chart to this point (47.Richilde6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Castellan of Tournai. Mentioned 1157.

    Everard married Mathilde de Béthune. (daughter of Guillaume I de Béthune and Clémence de Cambrai-Oisy) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 154. Richilda de Tournai  Descendancy chart to this point

    Everard married Gertrude de Montaigu. (daughter of Lambert de Montaigu) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 155. Baudouin de Mortagne  Descendancy chart to this point

  18. 88.  Agnès de Hainault Descendancy chart to this point (48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1174.

    Agnès married Raoul I de Coucy. Raoul (son of Enguerrand II de Coucy and Agnes de Beaugency) was born 1134; died Nov 1191, Acre, Palestine. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 156. Isabeau de Coucy  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 157. Yolande de Coucy  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1164; died 18 Mar 1222; was buried , Abbey of St. Yved, Braine, France.

  19. 89.  Laurence de Hainault Descendancy chart to this point (48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 9 Jun 1181.

    Laurence married Bouchard V de Montmorency Jan 1173. Bouchard (son of Matthieu I de Montmorency and Alice) died 1189, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 158. Alix de Montmorency  Descendancy chart to this point died 24 Feb 1221.

  20. 90.  Jolande of Hainaut Descendancy chart to this point (48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft Nov 1202.

    Jolande married Hugues IV Candavène Bef 28 Apr 1180. Hugues (son of Anselme Candavène and Mathilde) was born Abt 1166; died Feb 1205, Didymoteicho, Thrace, Greece. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 159. Elisabeth  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1240.

  21. 91.  Baldwin V of Flanders Descendancy chart to this point (48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1150; died 17 Dec 1195.

    Notes:

    Count of Hainault and Flanders. Margrave of Namur.

    With Baldwin V of Hainaut and his wife Marguerite of Lorraine, the line back from TNH's probable Quebec "gateway ancestor" Jean Sicard de Carufel joins up with the ancestry of proven TNH gateway ancestor Olive Welby.

    Baldwin married Marguerite of Lorraine Apr 1169. Marguerite (daughter of Thierri III of Lorraine and Sibyl of Anjou) was born Between 1140 and 1145; died 12 Nov 1194. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 160. Isabella of Flanders, Queen Consort of France  Descendancy chart to this point was born 23 Apr 1170, Valenciennes, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; died 15 Mar 1190, Paris, France; was buried , Cathedral of Notre Dame, Paris, France.
    2. 161. Baldwin I of Flanders, Latin Emperor of Constantinople  Descendancy chart to this point was born Jul 1171; died 11 Jul 1205.
    3. 162. Yolanda of Flanders  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1175; died Aug 1219.
    4. 163. Sybille de Hainaut  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1179; died 1217.

  22. 92.  Julienne de Rumigny Descendancy chart to this point (49.Nicolas6, 27.Alix5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Mentioned 1171.

    Julienne married Renaud de Rozoy. (son of Clarembaud and Elizabeth of Namur) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 164. Roger de Rozoy  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1286.

  23. 93.  Nicholas IV de Rumigny Descendancy chart to this point (49.Nicolas6, 27.Alix5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Abt 19 Feb 1205.

    Nicholas married Mathilde d'Avesnes. Mathilde (daughter of Jacques d'Avesnes and Adela of Guise) died Aft 5 Nov 1236. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 165. Nicholas V de Rumigny et de Florennes  Descendancy chart to this point died 21 Mar 1257.

  24. 94.  Alix de Mons Descendancy chart to this point (50.Béatrix6, 27.Alix5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1207.

    Alix married Roger. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 166. Nicholas de Condé  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1219.

  25. 95.  Sophia van Rhenen Descendancy chart to this point (51.Dirk6, 28.Godfried5, 13.(Unknown)4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1203.

    Sophia married Hendrik II van Kuyc Abt 1160. Hendrik (son of Herman van Malsen) was born Abt 1130; died 1204. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 167. Albrecht van Cuyck  Descendancy chart to this point died 1233.
    2. 168. Ludgardis van Perk  Descendancy chart to this point died Between 1219 and 1231.
    3. 169. Alveradis van Cuyck  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1165; died Aft 1226.

  26. 96.  William de Percy Descendancy chart to this point (52.Henry6, 29.Joscelin5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1193, of Topcliffe, Yorkshire, England; died Bef 28 Jul 1245; was buried , Sallay Abbey, Yorkshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1193, Alnwick, Northumberland, England
    • Alternate birth: 1197, of Topcliffe, Yorkshire, England

    Notes:

    "His heart was buried before the Lady altar in the church or chapel of the Hospital of Sandon, Surrey." [Royal Ancestry]

    William married Joan Briwerre Abt 1226. Joan (daughter of William de Briwerre and Beatrice de Vaux) died Bef 12 Jun 1233; was buried , Hospital of Sandon, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 170. Anastasia de Percy  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 28 Apr 1272.

    William married Ellen de Balliol Abt 1233. Ellen (daughter of Ingram de Balliol and (Unknown daughter of Walter de Berkeley)) was born Abt 1200, of Alnwick, Northumberland, England; died Bef 22 Nov 1281. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 171. Henry de Percy  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1235, of Topcliffe, Yorkshire, England; died 29 Aug 1272; was buried , Sallay Abbey, Yorkshire, England.

  27. 97.  Robert d'Eiville Descendancy chart to this point (53.Maud6, 29.Joscelin5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Egmanton, Nottinghamshire, England; died Aft 1242.

    Robert married Denise Fitz William Bef 1229. Denise (daughter of William fitz William and Ela de Warenne) died Bef 1285. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 172. John d'Eiville  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Egmanton, Nottinghamshire, England; died Bef Oct 1291.

  28. 98.  Godfrey de Lovaine Descendancy chart to this point (54.Godfrey6, 30.Godfrey5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 26 Apr 1226.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Abt 26 Apr 1226

    Notes:

    Custodian of the honor and castle of Eye, Suffolk. CP notes that he passed most of his life in England, and that toward the end of John's reign Godfrey was in arms against him but returned to allegiance in 1217.

    Godfrey married Alice de Hastings Abt 1199. (daughter of Robert de Hastings and Maud de Flamville) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 173. Matthew de Lovaine  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Little Easton, Essex, England; died Bef Jun 1258.

  29. 99.  Henri I of Brabant Descendancy chart to this point (54.Godfrey6, 30.Godfrey5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1158; died 5 Sep 1235, Koln, Germany; was buried , St. Peter's, Leuven, Belgium.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1165

    Notes:

    Duke of Lorraine and Barbant. Margrave of Antwerp.

    Henri married Machtild of Boulogne 1179. Machtild (daughter of Mathieu of Flanders and Marie of England) was born Abt 1169; died Between 1210 and 1211; was buried , Afflighem Abbey, Brabant, Belgium. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 174. Margareta of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1192; died 5 May 1231.
    2. 175. Aleidis of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1194; died Bef 1267.
    3. 176. Machteld of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1200; died 21 Dec 1267.
    4. 177. Henri II of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1207; died 1 Feb 1248.

  30. 100.  Dietrich V Descendancy chart to this point (55.Dietrich6, 31.Ida5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Between 1160 and 1170; died Bef 1202.

    Notes:

    Count of Cleves.

    Dietrich married Margaretha van Holland. Margaretha (daughter of Floris III and Aleida of Scotland) died Aft 1203. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 178. Dietrich VI Nust  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1185; died 13 May 1260.

  31. 101.  Arnold III von Kleve Descendancy chart to this point (55.Dietrich6, 31.Ida5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1163; died Bef 1200.

    Arnold married Adelheid von Heinsberg. (daughter of Gottfried von Heinsberg and Sophie) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 179. Dietrich I  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1192; died 4 Nov 1227.

  32. 102.  William d'Aubigny Descendancy chart to this point (56.William6, 32.Alice5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1 Feb 1221, Cainell, near Rome; was buried , Wymondham Priory, Norfolk, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Mar 1221, near Rome
    • Alternate death: Bef 30 Mar 1221, Cainell, near Rome

    Notes:

    Earl of Arundel; Earl of Sussex. Chief Butler of England; Privy Councillor; Judge in the King's Court 1198, 1200, 1218. A King's man at Runnymede.

    Went on Crusade in 1218; was present at the siege of Damietta.

    "In the beginning he was one of King John's favourites, but he joined the baronial party opposing the King in 1216 after the sealing of the Magna Carta. According to the Barnwell Chronicle when the barons met in London in 1216 to plan the division of England among them, they assigned to d'Aubigny the government of Lincolnshire. In 1217 he switched his support back to the young Henry III." [Leo van de Pas]

    From Complete Peerage I:236-38:

    William (d'Aubigny), Earl of Sussex, and Earl of Arundel, s. & h. He was a favorite of King John, whose concession of the Kingdom to the Pope, 15 May 1213, he witnessed, and whom he accompanied to Runnymede, 15 June 1215. (d) When, however, King John abandoned Winchester, 14 June 1216, to Louis (afterwards Louis VIII) of France, he joined that Prince, but (consistently taking the winning side) returned to his allegiance 14 July 1217, after the Royalist victory at Lincoln. Shortly afterwards he acted as Justiciar, the young King, Henry III, having restored to him his forfeited possessions. He m. Mabel, 2nd da. of Hugh (le Meschin, surnamed Kevelioc), Earl of Chester, by Bertrade, da. of Simon, Count of Evreux in Normandy. She, in her issue, was (1232) one of the four coheirs to her br. Ranulph (surnamed Blundeville), Earl of Chester. He embarked in the crusade of 1218, and was at the taking of Damietta in Nov. 12 19, but d. at Cainell, near Rome, ("quoddam oppidulum Kainel nomine") shortly before 30 Mar. 1221 (when the news reached England) and was bur. at Wynmondham Priory.

    (d) His namesake of Belvoir became one of the sureties for the King's observance of Magna Charta as 'William d'Aubigny, Sheriff of Warwick and Leicester.'

    William married Mabel of Chester. (daughter of Hugh of Chester and Bertrade de Montfort) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 180. Isabel d'Aubigny  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1240.
    2. 181. Nichole d'Aubigny  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Barrow-on-Soar, Leicestershire, England; died Abt 1240.
    3. 182. Maud d'Aubigny  Descendancy chart to this point died Between 1238 and 1243.
    4. 183. Cecily d'Aubigny  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1260.

  33. 103.  Alice de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1219.

    Alice married Odinel de Umfreville Bef 1173. Odinel (son of Odinel de Umfreville) was born , of Prudhoe, Hexham, Northumberland, England; died 1182. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 184. Richard de Umfreville  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Prudhoe, Hexham, Northumberland, England; died Bef 8 Nov 1226.
    2. 185. Margary de Umfreville  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1198.
    3. 186. Emma de Umfreville  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 187. Alice de Umfreville  Descendancy chart to this point

  34. 104.  Maud de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1170.

    Maud married Walter fitz Robert. Walter (son of Robert fitz Richard and Maud de Senlis) was born Bef 1134, of Little Dunmow, Essex, England; died 1198, Little Dunmow, Essex, England; was buried , Dunmow Priory, Little Dunmow, Essex, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 188. Robert fitz Walter  Descendancy chart to this point was born , Little Dunmow, Essex, England; died 9 Dec 1235.
    2. 189. Alice fitz Walter  Descendancy chart to this point

  35. 105.  Aveline de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1219.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1206

    Aveline married Gilbert de Montfitchet. Gilbert (son of William de Montfitchet and Margaret fitz Gilbert) was born Bef 1135, of Stanstead Mountfitchet, Essex, England; died 1186. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 190. Richard de Montfitchet  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1178, of Stanstead Mountfitchet, Essex, England; died Between 1202 and 1203.

  36. 106.  Godfrey de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Bishop of Winchester.


  37. 107.  Reynold de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Abt Jan 1199.

    Notes:

    "Reynold de Lucy, ancestor of this family, was probably a near kinsman of the great justiciar Richard de Luci. He was associated with the county of Cumberland as early as 1158. From 1168 to 1175 he was in charge of the Honour of Peverel of Nottingham; and was keeper of Nottingham Castle when it was taken and burnt by Earl Ferrers in the rebellion of 1174. In 1181 he was in Ivry. In 1187, he escorted Henry II's granddaughter, daughter of Henry the Lion of Saxony, from Southampton to the Continent. He was present at the Coronation of Richard I in September 1189." [Complete Peerage]

    That Reynold / Reginald de Lucy was a son of Richard de Lucy the justiciar has been shown by Rosie Bevan and Peter G. M. Dale in their paper "Reginald de Lucy, Son of Richard de Lucy, King's Justiciar: New Perspectives" (citation details below), in which they transcribe a copy of the original charter of gift by Richard de Lucy to the church of Holy Trinity, London of 20 shillings rent from his vill of Newington, Kent, for the soul of his wife Rose, witnesses to which include "Geoffrey de Lucy and Reginald his brother." This copy was "found in a folio entitled A Collection of Deeds and Seals comprising copies of charters and seals commissioned by the English antiquary, Elias Ashmole", and the authors carefully document its provenance and connection to the original, which probably perished in the fire in Elias Ashmole's rooms in Middle Temple in 1679.

    Bevan and Dale also opine that the 1199 death date given for Reginald / Reynold de Lucy may actually be that of his son Reginald, and that this Reginald may have died earlier.

    Reynold married Amabel Fitz William Bef 1162. Amabel (daughter of William Fitz Duncan and Alice de Rumilly) died Bef 1201. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 191. Richard de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Egremont, Cumberland, England; died 1213; was buried , St Bees Priory, Cumberland, England.
    2. 192. Cecily de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1230.
    3. 193. Cecily de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point

  38. 108.  Rose de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Rose married William de Mounteny. William was born , of Mountnessing, Essex, England; died Bef 1151. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 194. Muriel de Mounteny  Descendancy chart to this point

  39. 109.  Geoffrey de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Newington, Kent, England; died Bef 1179.

    Geoffrey married (Unknown second wife of Geoffrey de Lucy). [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 195. Geoffrey de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Newington, Kent, England; died Bef Dec 1234.

  40. 110.  Sibyl of Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (58.Faramus6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Abt 1208.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1219

    Notes:

    Also called Sibyl de Tingry.

    Sibyl married Enguerrand de Fiennes Bef 1171. Enguerrand (son of Eustache de Fiennes) was born , of Fiennes, Pas de Calais, France; died 1189, Acre, Palestine. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 196. Guillaume de Fiennes  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef Jul 1240.

  41. 111.  Ida of Flanders Descendancy chart to this point (60.Marie6, 34.Maud5, 16.Eustache4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1216.

    Notes:

    Countess of Boulogne.

    Ida married Berchtold IV von Zähringen 1183. Berchtold (son of Konrad I and Clemence de Namur) was born Abt 1125; died 8 Dec 1186. [Group Sheet]


  42. 112.  Machtild of Boulogne Descendancy chart to this point (60.Marie6, 34.Maud5, 16.Eustache4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1169; died Between 1210 and 1211; was buried , Afflighem Abbey, Brabant, Belgium.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 5 Aug 1224

    Notes:

    Also called Mahaud; Maud; Mathilde d'Alsace; Mathilde of Flanders.

    Machtild married Henri I of Brabant 1179. Henri (son of Godfrey III and Margaret von Limburg) was born Abt 1158; died 5 Sep 1235, Koln, Germany; was buried , St. Peter's, Leuven, Belgium. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 174. Margareta of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1192; died 5 May 1231.
    2. 175. Aleidis of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1194; died Bef 1267.
    3. 176. Machteld of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1200; died 21 Dec 1267.
    4. 177. Henri II of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1207; died 1 Feb 1248.

  43. 113.  Lucy de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (61.Margaret6, 35.Alice5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Clifford, Herefordshire, England.

    Lucy married Hugh de Say. Hugh (son of Hugh fitz Osbern and Eustacia de Say) was born , of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died Bef 29 Sep 1190. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 197. Hugh de Say  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died Between 1195 and 1196.

  44. 114.  Rosamund Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (61.Margaret6, 35.Alice5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Bef 1150; died Abt 1176.

    Notes:

    The "Fair Rosamund" who was mistress to Henry II.


  45. 115.  Walter II de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (61.Margaret6, 35.Alice5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1150, Clifford's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died 1216.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Bef 1173
    • Alternate death: Abt Jan 1222
    • Alternate death: Bef 22 Jan 1222
    • Alternate death: 22 Jan 1222

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Herefordshire.

    Walter married Agnes de Condet Abt 1185. (daughter of Roger de Condet and Basilia) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 198. Walter III de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died Bef 23 Dec 1263.
    2. 199. Roger de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Tenbury, Worcestershire, England; died Bef 28 Aug 1231; was buried , Dore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

  46. 116.  Maud de Senlis Descendancy chart to this point (63.Maud6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1125; died Aft 1185.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1135

    Maud married William II d'Aubeney. William (son of William "Brito" d'Aubeney and Cecily le Bigod) was born , of Belvoir, Leicestershire, England; died 1167. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 200. Maud d'Aubigny  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1209.
    2. 201. William d'Aubeney  Descendancy chart to this point was born Aft 1146, of Belvoir, Leicestershire, England; died 7 May 1236; was buried , Newstead, Lincolnshire, England.

  47. 117.  Walter fitz Robert Descendancy chart to this point (63.Maud6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Bef 1134, of Little Dunmow, Essex, England; died 1198, Little Dunmow, Essex, England; was buried , Dunmow Priory, Little Dunmow, Essex, England.

    Walter married Maud de Lucy. Maud (daughter of Richard de Lucy and Rohese de Boulogne) died Aft 1170. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 188. Robert fitz Walter  Descendancy chart to this point was born , Little Dunmow, Essex, England; died 9 Dec 1235.
    2. 189. Alice fitz Walter  Descendancy chart to this point

  48. 118.  Robert de Quincy Descendancy chart to this point (63.Maud6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Tranant, East Lothian, Scotland; died Aft 20 Aug 1201.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: of Buckby, Northamptonshire, England
    • Alternate death: Bef 29 Sep 1197
    • Alternate death: Bef 1208

    Notes:

    Or de Quency. [Royal Ancestry] Justiciar of Scotland; Crusader.

    Robert married Orabel fitz Ness. Orabel (daughter of Ness fitz William) died Bef 30 Jun 1203. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 202. Saher de Quincy  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1155, Winchester, Hampshire, England; died 3 Nov 1219, Damietta, Egypt; was buried , Acre, Palestine.

  49. 119.  Alice de Senlis Descendancy chart to this point (63.Maud6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1204.

    Alice married Roger de Huntingfield. Roger (son of William Fitz Roger de Huntingfield and Sibyl de Gigny) was born Bef 1145, of Huntingfield, Suffolk, England; died 1204. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 203. William de Huntingfield  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1160, of Huntingfield, Suffolk, England; died Bef 25 Jan 1221.

  50. 120.  Isabel de Senlis Descendancy chart to this point (65.Simon6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1210.

    Notes:

    Also called Isabel de St. Liz.

    Isabel married William Mauduit. William (son of William Mauduit and Alice) was born Between 1130 and 1135, of Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England; died 2 Oct 1194; was buried , Waverley Abbey, Surrey, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 204. Robert Mauduit  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1172, of Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England; died Bef 19 Jun 1222.

  51. 121.  Aleida of Scotland Descendancy chart to this point (66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 11 Jan 1204.

    Aleida married Floris III 1162. Floris (son of Dirk VI and Sophia von Rheinick) was born Abt 1140; died 1 Aug 1190, Antioch, Anatolia. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 205. Margaretha van Holland  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1203.
    2. 206. Willem I  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1170; died 4 Feb 1222.

  52. 122.  William I "The Lion", King of Scotland Descendancy chart to this point (66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1142; died 4 Dec 1214, Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland; was buried , Arbroath Abbey, Angus, Scotland.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1143

    Notes:

    Earl of Northumberland 1152-7; Earl of Huntingdon 1165-74.

    "Two of his charters, which he issued in his minority, show that he was then using his mother's name of Warenne." [Royal Ancestry]

    William married (Unknown mistress of William the Lion, King of Scotland). [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 207. Ada of Scotland  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 24 Sep 1200.

    William married (Unknown) de Avenal. (daughter of Richard de Avenal) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 208. Isabel of Scotland  Descendancy chart to this point

    William married Ermengarde de Beaumont 5 Sep 1186. Ermengarde (daughter of Richard I de Beaumont and Lucy de l'Aigle) died 11 Feb 1233; was buried , Balmerino Abbey, Fife, Scotland. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 209. Margaret of Scotland  Descendancy chart to this point was born Between 1187 and 1195; died Bef 25 Nov 1259; was buried , Black Friars, Holborn, London, England.
    2. 210. Alexander II, King of Scotland  Descendancy chart to this point was born 24 Aug 1198, Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland; died 8 Jul 1249, Kerrera, Argyll, Scotland; was buried , Melrose Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

  53. 123.  Margaret of Huntingdon Descendancy chart to this point (66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1145; died 1201; was buried , Sawtrey Abbey, Huntingdonshire, England.

    Notes:

    Also Margery, Marjory, Margaret of Scotland.

    "Following the Battle of Alnwick in July 1174 (in which her brother William the Lion, King of Scots was captured by the English), Margaret was imprisoned at Rochester Castle and afterwards removed to Rouen. On her release, Margaret married (2nd) in 1175 HUMPHREY DE BOHUN." [Royal Ancestry]

    Margaret married Conan IV 1160, England. Conan (son of Alan III and Bertha of Brittany) was born Abt 1138; died 20 Feb 1171. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 211. Constance of Brittany  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1162; died 4 Sep 1201, Nantes, France.

    Margaret married Humphrey de Bohun Between 29 Sep 1172 and 1 Jan 1175. Humphrey (son of Humphrey de Bohun and Margaret of Hereford) was born Bef 1144, of Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England; died 1181; was buried , Llanthony Priory, outside Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 212. Henry de Bohun  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1175, of Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England; died 1 Jun 1220, Palestine; was buried , Llanthony Priory, outside Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England.

  54. 124.  David of Scotland Descendancy chart to this point (66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1152; died 17 Jun 1219, Jerdelay, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England; was buried , Sawtrey Abbey, Huntingdonshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1144

    Notes:

    Earl of Huntingdon and Cambridge. Also called David of Huntingdon.

    David married (Unknown mistress of David of Scotland). [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 213. Margaret of Scotland  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1185; died Bef 14 Jun 1243.

    David married Maud of Chester 26 Aug 1190. Maud (daughter of Hugh of Chester and Bertrade de Montfort) was born 1171; died Abt 6 Jan 1233. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 214. Isabel of Huntingdon  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 20 Mar 1252; was buried , Sawtrey Abbey, Huntingdonshire, England.
    2. 215. Ada of Huntingdon  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 2 Nov 1241.
    3. 216. Margaret of Huntingdon  Descendancy chart to this point died Abt 6 Jan 1233.

  55. 125.  Matilda de la Roche Descendancy chart to this point (67.Matilda6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Matilda married Nicholas d'Oisy Bef 1150. Nicholas (son of Wautier I d'Oisy and Ida de Mortagne) died Between 1169 and 1171. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 217. Jacques d'Avesnes  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1150; died 7 Sep 1191, Arsulf, Palestine.

  56. 126.  Béatrix de Namur Descendancy chart to this point (67.Matilda6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Béatrix married Gerhard van Breda. Gerhard (son of Hendrik I van Brunesheim) died Bef 1152. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 218. Hendrik II van Breda  Descendancy chart to this point died 1192.

  57. 127.  Jutta von Arnsberg Descendancy chart to this point (68.Adelheid6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1103; died Aft 1154.

    Notes:

    Also called Ida von Arnsburg.

    Jutta married Gottfried I van Kuyck 1129. Gottfried (son of Hendrik I and Alveradis) was born Abt 1100. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 219. (Unknown) von Arnsberg  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 220. Adelheid von Arnsberg  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 221. Heinrich I  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1130.

  58. 128.  Bertha von Putelendorf Descendancy chart to this point (69.Agnes6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1190.

    Bertha married Berthold I von Henneberg. Berthold (son of Godebold von Henneberg and Liutgard von Hohenberg) died 1157. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 222. Poppo VI von Henneberg  Descendancy chart to this point died 14 Sep 1190.
    2. 223. Irmgard von Henneberg  Descendancy chart to this point died 15 Jul 1197.

  59. 129.  Henry II Descendancy chart to this point (70.Walram6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aug 1167, Rome.

    Notes:

    Duke of Limburg. Count of Arlon. Died while campaigning with Frederick Barbarossa in Italy, in the epidemic of 1167 at Rome.

    Henry married Maud von Saffenberg. Maud (daughter of Adalbert von Saffenberg and Mechtild) died 2 Jan 1145; was buried , Abbey of Rolduc, Kerkrade, Netherlands. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 224. Margaret von Limburg  Descendancy chart to this point died 1172.
    2. 225. Heinrich III  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1140; died 21 Jun 1226.


Generation: 8

  1. 130.  Gertrud von Ballenstädt Descendancy chart to this point (71.Adalbert7, 38.Albrecht6, 19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1194.

    Gertrud married Walter von Arnstein. (son of Walther von Arnstein and Ermengard) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 226. Gerhard von Arnstein  Descendancy chart to this point died Abt 1256.

  2. 131.  Albrecht II Descendancy chart to this point (72.Otto7, 38.Albrecht6, 19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1177; died 25 Feb 1220.

    Notes:

    Margrave of Brandenburg.

    Albrecht married Mathilde Aug 1205. Mathilde (daughter of Konrad and Elisabeth of Poland) died 1255. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 227. Matilde von Brandenburg  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1210; died 10 Jun 1261.
    2. 228. Johann I  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1213; died 4 Apr 1266.
    3. 229. Otto III  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1215; died 9 Oct 1267.

  3. 132.  Adelheid von Meissen Descendancy chart to this point (73.Hedwig7, 38.Albrecht6, 19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1160; died 1 Feb 1211.

    Adelheid married Przemysl Ottokar I, King of Bohemia Abt 1180. Przemysl (son of Wladislaw II, King of Bohemia and Jutta von Thüringen) was born Abt 1155; died 15 Dec 1230. [Group Sheet]


  4. 133.  Dietrich IV Descendancy chart to this point (73.Hedwig7, 38.Albrecht6, 19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 11 Mar 1162; died 2 Feb 1221.

    Notes:

    Also called Theodoric. Margrave of Meissen.

    Dietrich married Jutta von Thüringen 1194. Jutta (daughter of Hermann I and Sophie von Sommerschenburg) was born Abt 1183; died 6 Aug 1235. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 230. Hedwig von Meissen  Descendancy chart to this point died 2 Feb 1249.
    2. 231. Heinrich of Meissen  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1215; died Bef 8 Feb 1288.

  5. 134.  Heinrich I von Anhalt Descendancy chart to this point (74.Bernhard7, 38.Albrecht6, 19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1170; died Between 1251 and 1252.

    Notes:

    Prince of Anhalt. He was a famous Minnesänger. At the beginning of the 14th century, five of his Minnelieder (love songs) were copied into the Codex Manesse.

    Heinrich married Irmgard von Thüringen Abt 1211. Irmgard (daughter of Hermann I and Sophie of Bavaria) was born Abt 1197; died Abt 1244. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 232. Hedwig von Anhalt  Descendancy chart to this point died 21 Dec 1259.
    2. 233. Jutta von Anhalt  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 14 May 1277.
    3. 234. Siegfried I of Anhalt  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1230; died Aft 25 Mar 1298.

  6. 135.  Albrecht I Descendancy chart to this point (74.Bernhard7, 38.Albrecht6, 19.Otto5, 9.Adelheid4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1180; died 8 Nov 1261.

    Notes:

    Duke of Saxony.

    Albrecht married Agnes von Thüringen. Agnes (daughter of Hermann I and Sophie of Bavaria) was born Abt 1206; died Bef 1247. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 235. Jutta of Saxony  Descendancy chart to this point died 23 Dec 1287.

    Albrecht married Agnes of Austria 1222. Agnes (daughter of Leopold VI of Austria and Theodora Angela) was born 19 Feb 1206; died 29 Jul 1226. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 236. Jutta of Saxony  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1224.

    Albrecht married Helene von Braunschweig-Lüneburg Between 1247 and 1248. Helene (daughter of Otto I and Matilde von Brandenburg) was born 18 Mar 1223; died 6 Sep 1273. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 237. Albrecht II of Saxony  Descendancy chart to this point died 25 Aug 1298, Aken, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany; was buried , Franciscan cloister, Wittenberg, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany.

  7. 136.  Henry IV de Grandpré Descendancy chart to this point (75.Henry7, 39.Liutgard6, 20.Liutgard5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1229.

    Notes:

    Count of Grandpré.

    Henry married Marie de Garlande Bef Apr 1217. Marie (daughter of Guillaume IV de Garlande and Adèle de Châtillon) died Aft 1259. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 238. Henry V de Grandpré  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1218; died Aft 7 Apr 1287.

  8. 137.  Valdemar II Sejr, King of Denmark Descendancy chart to this point (76.Sofie7, 40.Wolodar6, 21.Anastasia5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 28 Jun 1170; died 28 Mar 1241.

    Valdemar married Dona Berengaria Between 1213 and 1214. Dona (daughter of Sancho I, King of Portugal and Dulce of Barcelona) was born Abt 1194, Coimbra, Portugal; died 27 Mar 1221, Ringsted, Zealand, Denmark. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 239. Erik IV-VI, King of Denmark  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1216; died 10 Aug 1250.
    2. 240. Sophie of Denmark  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1217; died 2 Nov 1247, Flensburg, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany.
    3. 241. Christoffer I, King of Denmark  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1219; died 29 May 1259, Ribe, Jutland, Denmark; was buried , Ribe, Jutland, Denmark.

  9. 138.  Helene of Denmark Descendancy chart to this point (76.Sofie7, 40.Wolodar6, 21.Anastasia5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1180; died 22 Nov 1233.

    Helene married Wilhelm Jul 1202, Hamburg, Germany. Wilhelm (son of Heinrich of Saxony and Matilda of England) was born 11 Apr 1184, Winchester, Hampshire, England; died 13 Dec 1213, Lüneburg, Lower Saxony, Germany. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 242. Otto I  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1204; died 19 Jun 1252.

  10. 139.  Richiza of Denmark Descendancy chart to this point (76.Sofie7, 40.Wolodar6, 21.Anastasia5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1190; died 8 May 1220; was buried , Ringsted, Zealand, Denmark.

    Richiza married Erik X Knutsson, King of Sweden 1210. Erik (son of Canute I Eriksson, King of Sweden) was born Abt 1180; died 10 Apr 1216. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 243. Ingeborg Eriksdotter  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1212; died 1254.

  11. 140.  Adolf III of Holstein Descendancy chart to this point (77.Mechtilde7, 41.Sizzo6, 22.(Unknown)5, 10.Kunigunde4, 4.Adela3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1160; died 3 Jan 1225.

    Notes:

    Count of Holstein.

    Adolf married Adelheid von Querfurt Bef May 1189. Adelheid (daughter of Burchard II and Mathilde) died Aft Apr 1201. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 244. Adolf IV of Holstein  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1192; died 8 Jul 1261.

  12. 141.  Heinrich VI, Holy Roman Emperor Descendancy chart to this point (78.Beatrice7, 42.Agatha6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Nov 1165; died 28 Sep 1197, Messina, Sicily.

    Notes:

    Also King of Sicily 1194-97.

    Heinrich married Constance of Sicily 27 Jan 1186, Milan, Lombardy, Italy. Constance (daughter of Roger II, King of Sicily and Beatrice de Vitry-Réthel) was born 2 Nov 1154; died 27 Nov 1198. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 245. Friedrich II, Holy Roman Emperor  Descendancy chart to this point was born 26 Dec 1194; died 13 Dec 1250.

  13. 142.  Otto II von Hohenstaufen Descendancy chart to this point (78.Beatrice7, 42.Agatha6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1167; died 2 Jan 1200.

    Notes:

    Count Palatine of Burgundy.

    Otto married Marguerite de Blois Abt 1191. Marguerite (daughter of Thibaut V and Alice of France) died 7 May 1231. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 246. Beatrix von Hohenstaufen  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1192; died Abt 6 May 1231.

  14. 143.  Philip II, King of Germany Descendancy chart to this point (78.Beatrice7, 42.Agatha6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1177; died 21 Jun 1208, Bamberg, Bayern, Germany.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Feb-Mar 1177, Pavia, Lombardy, Italy
    • Alternate birth: 1181

    Notes:

    Phillip of Hohenstaufen, Duke Of Swabia, "King of the Romans". Was never formally made Holy Roman Emperor.

    Murdered by Otto of Wittelsbach.

    Philip married Irene Angelina 25 May 1197. Irene (daughter of Isaac II Angelos, Emperor of Byzantium and (First wife of Isaac II Angelos)) was born Abt 1181, Constantinople; died 27 Aug 1208, Hohenstaufen Castle, Bavaria. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 247. Maria von Hohenstaufen  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1201; died 1235.
    2. 248. Kunigunde von Hohenstaufen  Descendancy chart to this point was born Between Jan 1202 and Mar 1202; died 13 Sep 1248; was buried , St. Veit, Prague, Bohemia.
    3. 249. Elizabeth von Hohenstaufen  Descendancy chart to this point was born Between Mar 1205 and May 1205; died 30 Nov 1235.

  15. 144.  Stephen III of Burgundy Descendancy chart to this point (79.Judith7, 43.Matthias6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1172; died 16 Mar 1241.

    Notes:

    Count of Auxonne.

    Stephen married Beatrix. Beatrix (daughter of William II) died 1227. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 250. Jean de Châlons  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1190; died 30 Sep 1267.

  16. 145.  Frédéric II Descendancy chart to this point (80.Frédéric7, 43.Matthias6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1172; died 10 Oct 1213.

    Notes:

    Duke of Lorraine.

    Frédéric married Agnes de Bar. Agnes (daughter of Thibaud I and Laurette de Looz) was born Abt 1177; died 21 Jun 1226. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 251. Alix de Lorraine  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 29 Sep 1242.
    2. 252. Mathieu II  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1193; died 9 Feb 1251.

  17. 146.  Odo III of Burgundy Descendancy chart to this point (81.Alice7, 43.Matthias6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1166; died 6 Jul 1218, Lyon, Rhone, France.

    Notes:

    Duke of Burgundy.

    Odo married Alice of Vergy 1199. Alice (daughter of Hugh of Vergy and Gillette de Trainel) was born 1182; died 1252. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 253. Hugh IV of Burgundy  Descendancy chart to this point was born 9 Mar 1212; died 27 Oct 1272.

  18. 147.  Alexander of Burgundy Descendancy chart to this point (81.Alice7, 43.Matthias6, 23.Adelaide5, 11.Henry4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1170; died Abt 6 Sep 1205.

    Alexander married Béatrix de Rion Abt 1195. Béatrix died Aft 12 Jan 1221. [Group Sheet]


  19. 148.  Eustache Canivet Descendancy chart to this point (82.Eustache7, 44.Eustache6, 24.Arnould5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1224.

    Notes:

    Lord of Roeulx.

    Eustache married Marie de Tournai. (daughter of Baudouin de Mortagne and Heldiarde) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 254. Eustache Campulus  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef Apr 1282.

  20. 149.  Aleid van Boulaere Descendancy chart to this point (83.Ada7, 44.Eustache6, 24.Arnould5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Heiress of Boulaere.

    Aleid married Gilles II de Trazegnies 1197. Gilles (son of Otton II de Trazegnies de Blicquy and Mathilde de Neyghem) was born Abt 1174; died 1204. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 255. Otton III de Trazegnies  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1198; died Between 12 Aug 1241 and Apr 1242.

  21. 150.  Mathilde de Breteuil Descendancy chart to this point (84.Valeran7, 45.Basilie6, 25.Ida5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 14 Mar 1208.

    Mathilde married Simon I de Clermont. Simon (son of Renaud II de Clermont and Clemence de Bar-le-Duc) died Aft 1162. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 256. Raoul I de Clermont  Descendancy chart to this point died 30 Mar 1226.

  22. 151.  William de Mohun Descendancy chart to this point (85.Godehilde7, 46.Ida6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1156, of Dunster, Williton, Somerset, England; died Oct 1193.

    Notes:

    "William de Mohun died in October 1193, perhaps abroad." [Royal Ancestry also "The Trowbridge Ancestry", citation details below.] Some sources say Jerusalem. Contemporary records show that he made a pilgrimage there but do not clarify where he died.

    William married Lucy. Lucy died Aft 1201. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 257. Reynold I de Mohun  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1183, of Dunster, Williton, Somerset, England; died 1213.

  23. 152.  Roger de Tony Descendancy chart to this point (86.Ralph7, 46.Ida6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died Jan 1209.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1160

    Notes:

    Also called Roger de Tonches. Founded the nunnery of St. Giles in the Wood, Flamstead, Hertfordshire.

    "Went with Richard I on Crusade, 1191, and distinguished himself at Arsulf and fought against the Saracens at ElKhuweilfe, 1192. In 1204 he lost all of his Norman lands to the King of France." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    Roger married Constance de Beaumont 1175. Constance (daughter of Richard I de Beaumont and Lucy de l'Aigle) died Aft 1226. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 258. Ralph VI de Tony  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1189, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England; died Abt 29 Sep 1239, At sea.

  24. 153.  Ida de Tony Descendancy chart to this point (86.Ralph7, 46.Ida6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Stewart Baldwin, at The Henry Project, states that "The parentage of Ida remains unknown":

    While it had been known for some time that the mother of William was a "countess" Ida, her identity was only recently proven. As one of two known contemporary English countesses named Ida, the wife of Roger Bigod had already been a prime candidate [see Paul C. Reed, "Countess Ida, mother of William Longespée, illegitimate son of Henry II", TAG 77 (2002), which was going to press just as the crucial discovery was made]. Convincing proof of her identity as the wife of Roger Bigod was only recently discovered by Raymond W. Phair, who announced his discovery in the soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup on 3 July 2002, and then published it in The American Genealogist [Raymond W. Phair, "William Longespée, Ralph Bigod, and Countess Ida", TAG 77 (2002), 279-81], citing a list of prisoners after the Battle of Bouvines in 1214, in which Ralph Bigod was called a brother of the earl of Salisbury. The parentage of Ida remains unknown, but see Reed (2002) for the possibility that she might have been a daughter of Roger de Toeni and Ida of Hainault.

    Douglas Richardson's Royal Ancestry (2013) gives Ida de Tony as a daughter of Ralph de Tony and Margaret of Leicester. Richardson set forth his arguments for this in a 2008 post to soc.genealogy.medieval, reproduced below:

    From: Douglas Richardson
    Subject: Ida de Tony, wife of Roger le Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, and mother of William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury
    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 06:32:55 -0800 (PST)

    [...] For conclusive evidence that Ida, wife of Earl Roger le Bigod, was a member of the Tony family, see Morris, The Bigod Earls of Norfolk in the 13th Century (2005): 2, who cites a royal inquest dated 1275, in which the jurors affirmed that Earl Roger le Bigod had received the manors of Acle, Halvergate, and South Walsham, Norfolk from King Henry II, in marriage with his wife, Ida de Tony (citing Rotuli Hundredorum 1 (1812): 504, 537). Morris shows that Earl Roger le Bigod received these manors by writ of the king, he having held them for three quarters of a year at Michaelmas 1182 (citing PR 28 Henry II, 1181-1182 (Pipe Roll Soc.) (1910):64). This appears to pinpoint to marriage of Ida de Tony and Earl Roger le Bigod as having occurred about Christmas 1181.

    For evidence that Ida de Tony was the mother of William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury (illegitimate son of King Henry II of England), see London, Cartulary of Bradenstoke Priory (Wiltshire Rec. Soc. 35) (1979): 143, 188, which includes two charters in which Earl William Longespee specifically names his mother as Countess Ida. Furthermore, among the prisoners captured at the Battle of Bouvines in 1214 was a certain Ralph [le] Bigod, who a contemporary French record names as "brother" [i.e., half-brother] to William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury [see Brial, Monumens de Règnes des Philippe Auguste et de Louis VIII 1 (Recueil des Historiens des Gaules et de la France 17) (1878): 101 (Guillelmus Armoricus: "Isti sunt Prisiones (capti in bello Bovinensi)...Radulphus Bigot, frater Comitis Saresburiensis"); see also Malo, Un grand feudataire, Renaud de Dammartin et la coalition de Bouvines (1898):199, 209].

    As for Countess Ida's parentage, it seems virtually certain that she was a daughter of Ralph V de Tony (died 1162), of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, by his wife, Margaret (b. c.1125, living 1185), daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester [see C.P.7 (1929): 530, footnote e (incorrectly dates Ralph and Margaret's marriage as "after 1155" based on the misdating of a charter --correction provided by Ray Phair); C.P. 12(1) (1953): 764 - 765 (sub Tony); Power, The Norman Frontier in the Twelfth and Early Thirteenth Centuries (2004): 525 (Tosny pedigree)].

    For evidence which supports Ida's placement as a child of Ralph V de Tony, several facts may be noted. First, Countess Ida and her husband, Roger le Bigod, are known to have named children, Ralph and Margaret, presumably in honor of Ida's parents, Ralph and Margaret de Tony [see Thompson, Liber Vitae Ecclesiae Dunelmenis (Surtees Soc. 136) (1923): fo.63b, for a contemporary list of the Bigod children]. Countess Ida was herself evidently named in honor of Ralph V de Tony's mother, Ida of Hainault. Next, William Longespee and his descendants had a long standing association with the family of Roger de Akeny, of Garsington, Oxfordshire, which Roger was a younger brother of Ralph V de Tony (died 1162) [see C.P. 8 (1932): chart foll. 464; 14 (1998): 614; Loyd, Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Fams. (1951): 2; VCH Oxford 5 (1957): 138; Harper-Bill, Dodnash Priory Charters (Suffolk Rec. Soc. 16) (1998): 34 - 37, 39 - 40, 72 - 73; Fam. Hist. 18 (1995 - 97): 47 - 64; 19 (1998): 125 - 129]. Lastly, Roger le Bigod and his step-son William Longespée both had associations with William the Lion, King of Scots, which connection can be readily explained by virtue of King William's wife, Ermengarde, being sister to Constance de Beaumont, wife of Countess Ida's presumed brother, Roger VI de Tony [see C.P. 12(1) (1953): 760 - 769 (sub Tony)].

    William the Lion was likewise near related to both of Countess Ida's presumed parents, her father by a shared descent from Countess Judith, niece of William the Conqueror, and her mother by a shared descent from Isabel de Vermandois, Countess of Surrey. Roger le Bigod and William Longespee were both present with other English relations of William the Lion at an important gathering at Lincoln in 1200, when William the Lion paid homage to King John of England [see Stubbs, Chronica Magistri Rogeri de Houedene 4 (Rolls Ser. 51) (1871): 141 - 142].

    Thus, naming patterns, familial and political associations give strong evidence that Ida, wife of Earl Roger le Bigod, was a daughter of Ralph V de Tony.

    A later post from Richardson in the same thread:

    From: Douglas Richardson
    Subject: Re: Ida de Tony, wife of Roger le Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, and mother of William Longespee, Earl of Salisbury
    Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 11:28:47 -0800 (PST)

    Morris says that Ida de Tony was a ward of the king when the king married her to Roger le Bigod. That presumably means she was not yet 21 at her marriage, which occurred at Christmas 1181. If so, she would have to have been born no earlier than 1160.

    Also, to be a ward of the king, your father would have been a tenant in chief of the king who left a minor heir in custody. The only requisite Tony male in this time period that would appear to fit that description would be Sir Ralph de Tony (husband of Margaret de Beaumont), who died in 1162, leaving a minor son, Roger. An estimate for a birth of Sir Ralph de Tony is hard to determine, but he was conceivable born as early as 1130, and probably no later than 1135. We know his parents were married in the reign of King Henry I who died in 1135.

    As for the chronology of other parts of the Tony family. Sir Ralph de Tony's sister, Godeheut de Tony, wife of William de Mohun, had a grandson and heir, Reynold de Mohun, born about 1185. So Godeheut de Tony was born say 1135, give or take. Sir Ralph de Tony's younger brother, Sir Roger de Tony, had his son and heir, Baldwin, born about 1170. So Sir Roger was born say 1140, give or take.

    In any case, the fact that Ida de Tony was a ward at the time of her marriage would seem to clearly indicate her parentage.

    An email from Todd A. Farmerie to Marianne Dillow, reproduced in the same thread as Richardson's two posts above (the archives of the thread are somewhat jumbled, making it hard to tell the exact order of posts). It summarizes Farmerie's reservations about Richardson's identification of Ida de Tony's parents. In the scheme that Farmerie considers equally probable, Ida's parents would be Ralph de Tony's father Roger de Tony and Roger's wife Ida de Hainault:

    I think you already had others point you to the group archives. Let me just say that this is not about confidence in an individual's work. It is a legitimate difference of opinion, two people, each equally qualified, using the same data, and reaching different conclusions.

    I didn't want to get into another round of argument in the group, as it has been argued several times before. Briefly, though, everything that has been said about her being child of Ralph would also apply to her being sister of Ralph. All of the names, all of the associations, etc.

    Whether she was daughter or sister comes down to how old you think she is, and we have no evidence. Thus, virtual certainty is a bit of an exaggeration. That she was of this immediate family is pretty safe, but which generation, there is room for doubt.

    Let me also say this, and I just offer it at face value. This is not the first 'near certainty' that has been proclaimed with regard to her parentage. For years it was argued that it was almost certain she was a completely different person. Then a new piece of evidence comes out and we have seamlessly switched to a different near certainty. Basically, when someone says that something is a virtual certainty, they are doing it either because they think it is absolutely certain, and are simply recognizing that all history has a minute chance of revision, or alternatively, because they know it isn't certain, but they have convinced themselves that it is the right answer and are trying to make it sound better than it really is. This is not a 99.99% certainty, it is a 75% likelihood, coupled with a strong gut feeling and some gilding of the lily. That, at least, is my view.

    I guess my real point is, don't take anything at face value. Mr. Richardson has made some insightful hypotheses. As far as I know, he was the first to guess that Ida, wife of Roger de Toeny was identical to Ida, mother of William Longespee. He had no evidence for it - it was just a strong gut instinct that led him to the right answer when proof was found a decade later. He has also reached some conclusions that are nothing but wishful thinking (such as his first 'certain' ancestry of Ida, which we now know is completely false). Both were expressed with equal certainty. Mr. Richardson is not unique in this. The same is true of others here, myself included. Don't just accept what anyone says. Look at all of the different opinions and ignore who is saying what, just take what seems the best solution from it, no matter who offers it.

    Even if only one person has suggested a connection, look at the evidence and try out some other possibilities and see if they will fit as well. No one is right all the time - everyone has their biases, and to be good at this, it is important to move beyond the individual opinions and reach your own conclusions from the original data. (Sorry to preach.)

    Finally, a post from the same thread setting forth a chronological argument for Richardson's position, and giving a reasonable guess as to her year of birth:

    From: mississippienne@gmail.com
    Subject: Re: Ida de Tony, wife of Roger le Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, and mother of William Longespée, Earl of Salisbury
    Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:54:13 -0800 (PST)

    [...] Girls as young as 12 were considered marriageable during this time period, and since we have no firm dates for either Ida's birth or that of her son William, she might've been as young as 15 or as old as her twenties by the time she gave birth to him. Unless someone happens upon a charter in which William de Longspee helpfully provides his exact date of birth and that of his mother, we will probably never know for sure. All we know is that she went onto have at least eight children with Roger Bigod; assuming no twins, Ida was bearing children at least until about 1190. As M. Sjostrom points out, it's stretching the chronology to the breaking point to get Ida de Tony to be the daughter of Ida of Hainault.

    I think a reasonable time for Ida de Tony would be a birth c. 1160, her son William born 1175-1180, marriage to Roger Bigod in 1181, at which point she was bearing his children until the early 1190s or thereabouts, when she would've been in her thirties.

    Ida married Henry II, King of England. Henry (son of Geoffrey V of Anjou and Maud "The Empress") was born 4 Mar 1133, Le Mans, Maine, Pays de la Loire, France; died 6 Jul 1189, Chinon, Indre-et-Loire, Centre, France; was buried , Fontévrault Abbey, near Chinon, Anjou, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 259. William I Longespée  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1170; died Abt 1225; was buried , Salisbury Cathedral, Wiltshire, England.

    Ida married Roger II le Bigod Abt 25 Dec 1181. Roger (son of Hugh I le Bigod and Juliana de Vere) was born , of Framlingham, Suffolk, England; died Bef 2 Aug 1221. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 260. Margaret le Bigod  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 261. Hugh II le Bigod  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 18 Feb 1225.
    3. 262. Mary le Bigod  Descendancy chart to this point

  25. 154.  Richilda de Tournai Descendancy chart to this point (87.Everard7, 47.Richilde6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Lady of Feignies. Mentioned 1187.

    Richilda married Walter I van Zotteghem. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 263. Aleidis van Zotteghem  Descendancy chart to this point

  26. 155.  Baudouin de Mortagne Descendancy chart to this point (87.Everard7, 47.Richilde6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Castellan of Tournai. Lord of Mortagne. Mentioned 1166.

    Baudouin married Heldiarde. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 264. Marie de Tournai  Descendancy chart to this point

  27. 156.  Isabeau de Coucy Descendancy chart to this point (88.Agnès7, 48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Isabeau married Henry III de Grandpré. Henry (son of Henry II de Grandpré and Liutgard von Luxemburg) died 1211. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 265. Henry IV de Grandpré  Descendancy chart to this point died 1229.

  28. 157.  Yolande de Coucy Descendancy chart to this point (88.Agnès7, 48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1164; died 18 Mar 1222; was buried , Abbey of St. Yved, Braine, France.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 22 Mar 1222

    Yolande married Robert II 1184. Robert (son of Robert I "le Grande" and Agnes de Baudement) was born Abt 1154; died 28 Dec 1218; was buried , Abbey of St. Yved, Braine, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 266. Robert III "Gasteblé" of Dreux  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1185; died 3 Mar 1234.
    2. 267. Pierre de Braine  Descendancy chart to this point was born Between 1187 and 1190; died Abt 28 May 1250, At sea; was buried , Saint-Yved-de-Braine Abbey, near Laon, France.
    3. 268. Philippa of Dreux  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1192; died 17 Mar 1240.

  29. 158.  Alix de Montmorency Descendancy chart to this point (89.Laurence7, 48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 24 Feb 1221.

    Alix married Simon V de Montfort. Simon (son of Simon IV de Montfort and Amicie de Beaumont) was born Abt 1175; died 25 Jun 1218, Toulouse, Languedoc, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 269. Amicie de Montfort  Descendancy chart to this point died 20 Feb 1253.
    2. 270. Amuary VII de Montfort  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1191; died 1241, Otranto, Apulia, Italy; was buried , St. Peter's, Rome, Italy.

  30. 159.  Elisabeth Descendancy chart to this point (90.Jolande7, 48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1240.

    Notes:

    Countess of St. Pol.

    Elisabeth married Gautier III de Châtillon. Gautier (son of Gui II de Châtillon and Adèle de Dreux) was born Abt 1170; died 1219. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 271. Guy de Châtillon  Descendancy chart to this point died Aug 1226, Avignon, Vaucluse, France.

  31. 160.  Isabella of Flanders, Queen Consort of France Descendancy chart to this point (91.Baldwin7, 48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 23 Apr 1170, Valenciennes, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; died 15 Mar 1190, Paris, France; was buried , Cathedral of Notre Dame, Paris, France.

    Notes:

    Also called Isabella of Hainaut.

    Isabella married Philippe II Augustus, King of France 28 Apr 1180, Abbey of Saint-Trinité, Bapaume, Pas-de-Calais, France. Philippe (son of Louis VII, King of France and Adèle of Blois, Queen Consort of France) was born 22 Aug 1165, Gonesse, France; died 14 Jul 1223, Mantes la Jolie, Yvelines, France; was buried , Abbey of Saint-Denis, Saint-Denis, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 272. Louis VIII, King of France  Descendancy chart to this point was born 3 Sep 1187, Paris, France; died 8 Nov 1226, Castle of Montpensier, Puy-de-Dôme, France; was buried , Abbey of Saint-Denis, Saint-Denis, France.

  32. 161.  Baldwin I of Flanders, Latin Emperor of Constantinople Descendancy chart to this point (91.Baldwin7, 48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Jul 1171; died 11 Jul 1205.

    Notes:

    "A leader of the Fourth Crusade, Apr 1202. Defeated at the battle of Adrianople, Mar 1205, by the forces of Kaloyan, Tsar of the Bulgars, he was taken prisoner and executed, though the circumstances of his death are not precisely known. The Byzantine historian George Acropolites reports that the Tsar Kaloyan had Baudouin's skull made into a drinking cup." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    Baldwin married Marie of Champagne 6 Jan 1186. Marie (daughter of Henry I of Champagne and Marie of France) was born Abt 1174; died 9 Aug 1204. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 273. Margaret II of Flanders  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1202; died 10 Feb 1280; was buried , Abbey of Flines, Flines-lez-Raches, Hauts-de-France, France.

  33. 162.  Yolanda of Flanders Descendancy chart to this point (91.Baldwin7, 48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1175; died Aug 1219.

    Yolanda married Peter II of Courtenay, Emperor of Constantinople Jun 1193. Peter (son of Pierre of France and Elisabeth de Courtenay) was born Abt 1155; died Bef Jan 1218. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 274. Yolanda of Courtenay, Queen Consort of Hungary  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1200; died 1233.

  34. 163.  Sybille de Hainaut Descendancy chart to this point (91.Baldwin7, 48.Baldwin6, 26.Baldwin5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1179; died 1217.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1227

    Sybille married Guichard IV de Beaujeu 1196. Guichard (son of Humbert IV de Beaujeu and Agnes de Thiern) died 1216. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 275. Agnès de Beaujeu  Descendancy chart to this point died 11 Jul 1231.
    2. 276. Humbert V de Beaujeu  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1198; died 21 May 1250, Syria.

  35. 164.  Roger de Rozoy Descendancy chart to this point (92.Julienne7, 49.Nicolas6, 27.Alix5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1286.

    Roger married Alix d'Avesnes. (daughter of Jacques d'Avesnes and Adela of Guise) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 277. Julienne de Rozoy  Descendancy chart to this point

  36. 165.  Nicholas V de Rumigny et de Florennes Descendancy chart to this point (93.Nicholas7, 49.Nicolas6, 27.Alix5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 21 Mar 1257.

    Nicholas married Elisabeth de Coucy Bef May 1214. Elisabeth (daughter of Enguerrand II de Coucy and Ade de Nesle) died Aft Jul 1263. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 278. Hugues II de Rumigny  Descendancy chart to this point died 2 Aug 1270.

  37. 166.  Nicholas de Condé Descendancy chart to this point (94.Alix7, 50.Béatrix6, 27.Alix5, 12.Ida4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1219.

    Notes:

    Mentioned 1188.

    Nicholas married Élizabeth de Morialmé Between 1210 and 1216. Élizabeth (daughter of Arnoud de Morialmé and Jeanne de Bailleul) died Aft Dec 1256. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 279. (Unknown) de Condé  Descendancy chart to this point

  38. 167.  Albrecht van Cuyck Descendancy chart to this point (95.Sophia7, 51.Dirk6, 28.Godfried5, 13.(Unknown)4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1233.

    Notes:

    Stadgraaf of Utrecht. Lord of Herpen and Merum.

    Albrecht married Heilwig van Merheim. (daughter of Rutger van Merheim and Aleidis) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 280. (Unknown) van Cuyck  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1240.

  39. 168.  Ludgardis van Perk Descendancy chart to this point (95.Sophia7, 51.Dirk6, 28.Godfried5, 13.(Unknown)4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Between 1219 and 1231.

    Ludgardis married Godfried II van Breda Bef Aug 1190. (son of Hendrik II van Breda and Christina) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 281. Sophie van Breda  Descendancy chart to this point

  40. 169.  Alveradis van Cuyck Descendancy chart to this point (95.Sophia7, 51.Dirk6, 28.Godfried5, 13.(Unknown)4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1165; died Aft 1226.

    Alveradis married Dirk. Dirk (son of Dirk and (Unknown) van Naaldwijk) died 31 Dec 1228. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 282. Hendrik van Voorne  Descendancy chart to this point died 13 Mar 1259.

  41. 170.  Anastasia de Percy Descendancy chart to this point (96.William7, 52.Henry6, 29.Joscelin5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 28 Apr 1272.

    Anastasia married Ralph fitz Ranulph. Ralph (son of Ranulph fitz Robert and Mary le Bigod) was born , of Middleham, Durham, England; died 31 Mar 1270; was buried , Coverham Abbey, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 283. Mary fitz Ranulph  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 11 Apr 1320; was buried , Coverham Abbey, Yorkshire, England.

  42. 171.  Henry de Percy Descendancy chart to this point (96.William7, 52.Henry6, 29.Joscelin5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1235, of Topcliffe, Yorkshire, England; died 29 Aug 1272; was buried , Sallay Abbey, Yorkshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1235, Alnwick, Northumberland, England

    Notes:

    Taken prisoner in the battles of Lewes; liberated after the victory at Evesham.

    Henry married Eleanor de Warenne 8 Sep 1268, York, Yorkshire, England. Eleanor (daughter of John de Warenne and Alice de Lusignan) was born 1251; died Aft 1282; was buried , Sallay Abbey, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 284. Henry de Percy  Descendancy chart to this point was born 25 Mar 1273, Petworth, Sussex, England; died 2 Oct 1314, Alnwick, Northumberland, England; was buried , Fountain Abbey, Yorkshire, England.

  43. 172.  John d'Eiville Descendancy chart to this point (97.Robert7, 53.Maud6, 29.Joscelin5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Egmanton, Nottinghamshire, England; died Bef Oct 1291.

    Notes:

    Chief Justice and Keeper of the King's Forest North of Trent. Sheriff of Yorkshire. Constable of York and Scarborough Castles. "Following the defeat of Simon de Montfort, he became one of the most active leaders of the disinherited barons." [Royal Ancestry]

    John married Maud Bef 5 Feb 1276. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 285. John d'Eiville  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Adlingfleet, Yorkshire, England; died Between 1325 and 1326.

  44. 173.  Matthew de Lovaine Descendancy chart to this point (98.Godfrey7, 54.Godfrey6, 30.Godfrey5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Little Easton, Essex, England; died Bef Jun 1258.

    Notes:

    Custodian of the honor of Eye.

    Matthew married Muriel. Muriel died Aft 1274. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 286. Matthew de Lovaine  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1237, of Little Easton, Essex, England; died Bef 24 May 1302.

  45. 174.  Margareta of Brabant Descendancy chart to this point (99.Henri7, 54.Godfrey6, 30.Godfrey5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1192; died 5 May 1231.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 21 Sep 1231

    Margareta married Gerhard van Gelre Abt 1206. Gerhard (son of Otto I van Gelre and Richardis von Scheyern-Wittelsbach) was born Abt 1185; died 22 Aug 1229. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 287. Richardis van Gelre  Descendancy chart to this point died Between 1293 and 1298.
    2. 288. Margareta van Gelre  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 10 Jan 1250.
    3. 289. Otto II van Gelre  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1215; died 10 Jan 1271.

  46. 175.  Aleidis of Brabant Descendancy chart to this point (99.Henri7, 54.Godfrey6, 30.Godfrey5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1194; died Bef 1267.

    Aleidis married Guillaume IX d'Auvergne Bef 3 Feb 1225. Guillaume (son of Guy II d'Auvergne and Pernelle de Chambon) was born Abt 1195; died 1246. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 290. Mahaut d'Auvergne  Descendancy chart to this point died 20 Aug 1280.
    2. 291. Marie d'Auvergne  Descendancy chart to this point died 19 May 1280.

  47. 176.  Machteld of Brabant Descendancy chart to this point (99.Henri7, 54.Godfrey6, 30.Godfrey5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1200; died 21 Dec 1267.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 22 Dec 1267

    Machteld married Floris IV Aft 5 Nov 1214. Floris (son of Willem I and Aleida van Gelre) was born 24 Jun 1210; died 19 Jul 1234. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 292. Adelaide of Holland  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1230; died Between 1 Mar 1284 and 7 Apr 1284.
    2. 293. Margaretha van Holland  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1234; died 26 Mar 1277.

  48. 177.  Henri II of Brabant Descendancy chart to this point (99.Henri7, 54.Godfrey6, 30.Godfrey5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1207; died 1 Feb 1248.

    Notes:

    Duke of Lorraine and Brabant. Called "Magnanimus."

    Henri married Maria von Hohenstaufen 22 Aug 1215. Maria (daughter of Philip II, King of Germany and Irene Angelina) was born Abt 1201; died 1235. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 294. Mahaut of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1224; died 29 Sep 1288; was buried , Cercamp Abbey, Artois, France.
    2. 295. Henry III of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1230; died 28 Feb 1261, Leuven, Vlaams-Brabant, Belgium; was buried , Church of the Dominicans, Leuven, Vlaams-Brabant, Belgium.

    Henri married Sophia von Thüringen 1240. Sophia (daughter of Ludwig II and St. Elisabeth of Hungary) was born 20 Mar 1224; died 29 May 1275. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 296. Heinrich I von Hessen  Descendancy chart to this point was born 24 Jun 1244; died 21 Dec 1308.

  49. 178.  Dietrich VI Nust Descendancy chart to this point (100.Dietrich7, 55.Dietrich6, 31.Ida5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1185; died 13 May 1260.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 26 Jun 1260

    Notes:

    Count of Cleves.

    Dietrich married Hedwig von Meissen Abt 1226. Hedwig (daughter of Dietrich IV and Jutta von Thüringen) died 2 Feb 1249. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 297. Dietrich VII von Kleve  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1226; died 1275.

  50. 179.  Dietrich I Descendancy chart to this point (101.Arnold7, 55.Dietrich6, 31.Ida5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1192; died 4 Nov 1227.

    Notes:

    Count of Heinsberg and Valkenburg.

    Dietrich married Isalda von Limburg. Isalda (daughter of Heinrich III and Sophie von Saarbrücken) died Abt 1221. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 298. Agnes van Heinsberg  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1217; died 1267.

    Dietrich married Beatrix 1225. (daughter of Gerhard I and Agnes von Bayern) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 299. Dirk II von Heinsberg  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1225; died 14 Oct 1268, Koln, Germany.

  51. 180.  Isabel d'Aubigny Descendancy chart to this point (102.William7, 56.William6, 32.Alice5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1240.

    Isabel married John Fitz Alan Bef 1223. John (son of William Fitz Alan and (Unknown) de Lacy) was born , of Clun, Shropshire, England; died Bef 15 Mar 1240. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 300. John Fitz Alan  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1223, of Clun, Shropshire, England; died Bef 10 Nov 1267.

  52. 181.  Nichole d'Aubigny Descendancy chart to this point (102.William7, 56.William6, 32.Alice5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Barrow-on-Soar, Leicestershire, England; died Abt 1240.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 20 Jan 1247

    Notes:

    Also called Colette.

    Nichole married Roger de Somery Bef 22 Nov 1232. Roger (son of Ralph de Somery and Margaret le Gras) was born Bef 1209, of Dudley, Staffordshire, England; died 26 Aug 1273. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 301. Maud de Somery  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Dudley, Worcestershire, England; died Bef 1302.
    2. 302. Margaret de Somery  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 18 Jun 1293.
    3. 303. Joan de Somery  Descendancy chart to this point died 1282, Knockin, Shropshire, England.

  53. 182.  Maud d'Aubigny Descendancy chart to this point (102.William7, 56.William6, 32.Alice5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Between 1238 and 1243.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Between 1238 and 1242
    • Alternate death: Abt 1240

    Maud married Robert de Tateshale Bef 1222. Robert (son of Walter de Tateshale and Iseult Pantolf) was born , of Tattershall, Lincolnshire, England; died 16 Jul 1249. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 304. Robert de Tateshale  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1222, of Tattershall, Lincolnshire, England; died 22 Jul 1273.

  54. 183.  Cecily d'Aubigny Descendancy chart to this point (102.William7, 56.William6, 32.Alice5, 14.Godfrey4, 5.Henry3, 2.Lambert2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1260.

    Cecily married Roger de Mohaut. Roger (son of Roger de Mohaut and Nichole) was born , of Mold, Cheshire, England; died 18 Jun 1260. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 305. Robert de Mohaut  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Hawarden, Suffolk, England; died Bef 16 Sep 1275.

  55. 184.  Richard de Umfreville Descendancy chart to this point (103.Alice7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Prudhoe, Hexham, Northumberland, England; died Bef 8 Nov 1226.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1227

    Richard married . Unknown [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 306. Sybil de Umfreville  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Prudhoe, Hexham, Northumberland, England; died Aft 1242.
    2. 307. Margery de Umfreville  Descendancy chart to this point
    3. 308. Gilbert de Umfreville  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1205, of Prudhoe, Hexham, Northumberland, England; died Bef 13 Mar 1245; was buried , Hexham Priory, Northumberland, England.

  56. 185.  Margary de Umfreville Descendancy chart to this point (103.Alice7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 1198.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Aft 1204

    Margary married William d'Aubeney. William (son of William II d'Aubeney and Maud de Senlis) was born Aft 1146, of Belvoir, Leicestershire, England; died 7 May 1236; was buried , Newstead, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 309. William IV d'Aubeney  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Belvoir, Leicestershire, England; died 4 Sep 1242; was buried , Beauvoir Priory, Leicestershire, England.

  57. 186.  Emma de Umfreville Descendancy chart to this point (103.Alice7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Emma married Walter fitz Gilbert. Walter (son of Gilbert) was born , of Bolam, Northumberland, England; died 1206. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 310. Aline de Bolam  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Bolam, Northumberland, England.

  58. 187.  Alice de Umfreville Descendancy chart to this point (103.Alice7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Alice married William Bertram 1185. William (son of Roger Bertram and Ada de Morville) was born , of Mitford, Morpeth, Northumberland, England; died Abt 1199. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 311. Roger Bertram  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1194, of Mitford, Morpeth, Northumberland, England; died 1242.

  59. 188.  Robert fitz Walter Descendancy chart to this point (104.Maud7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , Little Dunmow, Essex, England; died 9 Dec 1235.

    Notes:

    Leader of the Magna Carta sureties. From the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:

    "Fitzwalter, Robert (d. 1235), magnate and rebel, lord of Dunmow, Essex and Baynard's Castle, London, was the son of Walter fitz Robert and Matilda, daughter of Henry II's justiciar Richard de Lucy. Henry I had granted the honours of Dunmow and Baynard's Castle to Walter's father, Robert, the king's steward, a younger son of Richard fitz Gilbert de Clare. The date of Fitzwalter's birth is unknown, as are the circumstances of his upbringing, though he may be the Robert Fitzwalter mentioned in the Histoire de Guillaume le Maréchal as fighting in the Young King's retinue of over 200 knights at the great tournament at Lagny-sur-Marne in 1180.

    "[...]

    "The families of Quincy and Fitzwalter had long been linked, for Robert's father, Walter, and Saer (d. 1190) were half-brothers, the latter's father, also Saer, having married Maud de Senlis, the widow of Robert fitz Richard (d. 1134), and the Quincys held a fief of 1 1/2 fees from the barony of Dunmow. In a noted demonstration of alliance Fitzwalter and Quincy each bore the other's arms on their seals.

    "[...]

    "Fitzwalter's close involvement with the rebellion of 1215–17 and with Magna Carta has ensured his prominence, but historians have been sharply divided in their assessment of him. To Tout, Fitzwalter was 'the first champion of English liberty' (DNB), and prefigured Simon de Montfort. Others, like Norgate and Painter, reacting against this naive idealism, dismissed him as a haughty, selfish, but ultimately cowardly, feudal grandee, ready to obstruct justice by private warfare and to cloak treason with a series of makeshift justifications. Yet, given John's harsh and arbitrary rule, the king's opponents had little option save for conspiracy or armed rebellion, particularly after 1213 when Innocent III fully supported John. To see Fitzwalter falling short of the qualities of a great constitutional statesman is to be as anachronistic as Tout. He may have fought in large part to avenge personal wrongs and to regain lost rights, but he played an important role in sustaining the resistance which resulted in Magna Carta. Although Fitzwalter was resolute in his opposition to John, his participation on crusade and his conduct during Henry III's minority belie the image of a turbulent malcontent. Matthew Paris had little cause to praise Fitzwalter, but the final verdict is best left to him. He 'could match any earl in England; valiant in arms, spirited and illustrious, endowed with many possessions, generous, encompassed by a multitude of powerful blood relatives and strengthened by numerous relatives in marriage' (Gesta abbatum 1.220–21)."

    Robert married Rohese. Rohese died 1256, Woodham Walter, Essex, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 312. Maud fitz Walter  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1161; died Aft 26 Jan 1196.
    2. 313. Walter fitz Robert  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1219, of Woodham Walter, Essex, England; died Bef 10 Apr 1258.

  60. 189.  Alice fitz Walter Descendancy chart to this point (104.Maud7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Alice married Gilbert Pecche. Gilbert (son of Hamon Pecche and Alice Peverel) was born , of Great Bealings, Suffolk, England; died 1212. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 314. Maud Pecche  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1233; was buried , St. John's Abbey, Colchester, Essex, England.

  61. 190.  Richard de Montfitchet Descendancy chart to this point (105.Aveline7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Bef 1178, of Stanstead Mountfitchet, Essex, England; died Between 1202 and 1203.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1203
    • Alternate death: 1204

    Notes:

    "Died 1202-3, supposedly while on a Pilgrimage in Rome. Forester of Essex. He fought in Normandy 1194. Sheriff of Essex and Hertfordshire and Constable of Hetford Castle, 1200." [The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz]

    Richard married Millicent. Millicent died Aft 1210. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 315. Margaret de Montfitchet  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Stanstead Mountfitchet, Essex, England.
    2. 316. Philippe de Montfitchet  Descendancy chart to this point

  62. 191.  Richard de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (107.Reynold7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Egremont, Cumberland, England; died 1213; was buried , St Bees Priory, Cumberland, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Between 1213 and 1214
    • Alternate death: Bef 1214

    Notes:

    "Richard de Lucy, son and heir, in 1200 gave 300 marks for his relief and to have his inheritance in Copeland and Cambs, and for leave to marry where he would; also for the portions of the lands of his mother Amabel held by his aunt Alice, then wife of Robert de Courtenai, and his cousin Hawise, Countess of Aumale. He was one of the magnates who in 1201 refused personal service overseas with King John, and paid 15 marks in lieu thereof. About 1202 he granted a release of 'duretol' in Allerdale. In 1204 he and his wife Ada obtained a charter to them and her heirs of the forestership of Cumberland, as formerly held by her father, without partition to her sister Joan, and of the esnecia of the said Ada. Both he and his wife were benefactors of the monasteries of St. Bees, Wetheral and Calder." [Complete Peerage VIII:248-9]

    Richard married Ada de Morville 1200. Ada (daughter of Hugh de Morville and Helewise de Stuteville) died Aft 1230. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 317. Alice de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 318. Amabil de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point died Bef 1242.

  63. 192.  Cecily de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (107.Reynold7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1230.

    Cecily married Roger de St. John. Roger was born , of Barton St. John, Oxfordshire, England; died 1214. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 319. John de St. John  Descendancy chart to this point died 1229.

    Cecily married Walter de Cherlecote. Walter died Abt 1193. [Group Sheet]


  64. 193.  Cecily de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (107.Reynold7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Cecily married Roger de St. John. Roger (son of John de St. John) died Bef Jun 1214. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 320. John de St. John  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1196; died Bef 23 Jan 1230.

  65. 194.  Muriel de Mounteny Descendancy chart to this point (108.Rose7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Muriel married Jordan de Bricett. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 321. Maud de Bricett  Descendancy chart to this point

  66. 195.  Geoffrey de Lucy Descendancy chart to this point (109.Geoffrey7, 57.Rohese6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Newington, Kent, England; died Bef Dec 1234.

    Geoffrey married Juliane le Despenser 1207. Juliane (daughter of Amaury le Despenser and Amabel de Chesney) died Aft 1229. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 322. Geoffrey de Lucy  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Newington, Kent, England; died Bef 16 Aug 1252.

  67. 196.  Guillaume de Fiennes Descendancy chart to this point (110.Sibyl7, 58.Faramus6, 33.William5, 15.Geoffrey4, 6.Eustache3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef Jul 1240.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1241

    Notes:

    Seigneur of Fiennes in Pas de Calais; lord of Wendover.

    Guillaume married Agnès de Dammartin Bef 1 Jan 1204. Agnès (daughter of Aubrey II de Dammartin and Mahaut of Clermont) died Aft 1244. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 323. Enguerrand de Fiennes  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1205; died 1269.

  68. 197.  Hugh de Say Descendancy chart to this point (113.Lucy7, 61.Margaret6, 35.Alice5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died Between 1195 and 1196.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Abt 1196
    • Alternate death: Bef 29 Sep 1197

    Notes:

    "He was keeper of Norton Castle, in what is now co. Radnor, and fought under Richard I in Normandy in 1194. In 1195 he was in charge of the castle of Bleddfa in the March, now co. Radnor. In 1196 he and Roger de Mortimer of Wigmore were defeated near Radnor by the Welsh prince Rhys. He married Mabel, daughter of Robert Marmion. He was assessed to the third scutage of the army in Normandy in 1196, and seems to have been living in the early part of 1197, but d. s.p.m. before Michaelmas that year." [Complete Peerage]

    Hugh married Mabel Marmion. Mabel (daughter of Robert Marmion and Maud de Beauchamp) died Aft 1199. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 324. Margaret de Say  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England; died Bef 29 Sep 1242.

  69. 198.  Walter III de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (115.Walter7, 61.Margaret6, 35.Alice5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died Bef 23 Dec 1263.

    Notes:

    Sheriff of Herefordshire 1215-16. Constable of Carmarthen and Cardigan castles in 1228. Fought in Ireland, 1210, and in Wales, 1257, 1258, 1260, and 1263.

    Walter married Margaret verch Llewelyn Bef 2 Nov 1234. Margaret (daughter of Llewelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth and (One of the several mistresses of Llewelyn ap Iorwerth)) died 1265. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 325. Maud de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Clifford, Herefordshire, England; died Between 1282 and 1285.

  70. 199.  Roger de Clifford Descendancy chart to this point (115.Walter7, 61.Margaret6, 35.Alice5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born , of Tenbury, Worcestershire, England; died Bef 28 Aug 1231; was buried , Dore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: Abt 1189, Clifford's Castle, Herefordshire, England
    • Alternate death: 1232

    Roger married Sibyl de Ewyas Bef 13 Feb 1217. Sibyl (daughter of Robert de Ewyas and Pernel) died 1236, Ewyas, Herefordshire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 326. Roger de Clifford  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1221, of Tenbury, Worcestershire, England; died 1285, France; was buried , Dore Abbey, Herefordshire, England.

  71. 200.  Maud d'Aubigny Descendancy chart to this point (116.Maud7, 63.Maud6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1209.

    Notes:

    Complete Peerage calls her "probably" a daughter of William d'Aubeney and Maud de Senlis.

    Maud married Gilbert of Strathearn. Gilbert (son of Ferteth and Ethen) was born Bef 1151; died 1223. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 327. Robert of Strathearn  Descendancy chart to this point died Between 25 Sep 1237 and 1244.

  72. 201.  William d'Aubeney Descendancy chart to this point (116.Maud7, 63.Maud6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Aft 1146, of Belvoir, Leicestershire, England; died 7 May 1236; was buried , Newstead, Lincolnshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1 May 1236
    • Alternate death: 1 May 1238, Uffington, Lincolnshire, England

    Notes:

    Magna Carta surety. Sheriff of Rutland 1195; Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire 1197; Sheriff of Warwickshire and Leicestershire 1197; Governor of Rochester Castle. He was buried at Newstead, but his heart was interred at Belvoir Priory, Leicestershire.

    From Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans (citation details below):

    Having been forced to give his son to King John as a hostage in 1201, he was a member of the moderate or middle section of the baronage in the conflict between King John and the barons, remaining in attendance on the king until going over to the extreme party upon their taking possession of London on 24 May 1215. Going with them to Runnymede, he was elected a Magna Carta surety in 1215, and then withdrew to Belvoir. Although he was excommunicated by name by the Pope, along with de Quency and Mowbray, as a result of Runnymede, he refused to attend the Hounslow tournament on 6 July 1215.

    He was prevailed upon to return to service in the fall, and was placed in charge of Rochester, but was forced to surrender it to John after a gallant defense lasting from 11 Oct. to 30 Nov. 1215, and was thrown into prison, narrowly escaping hanging.

    In 1216, upon payment of a fine of 6,000 marks [£4000], he was released and regained his lands. He did homage to King Henry III, was entrusted with Sleaford Castle and a command at the battle of Lincoln of 19 May 1217, which earned him high favor. In 1219 and 1225 he served again as an itinerant justice.

    William married Margary de Umfreville. Margary (daughter of Odinel de Umfreville and Alice de Lucy) died Bef 1198. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 309. William IV d'Aubeney  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Belvoir, Leicestershire, England; died 4 Sep 1242; was buried , Beauvoir Priory, Leicestershire, England.

  73. 202.  Saher de Quincy Descendancy chart to this point (118.Robert7, 63.Maud6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1155, Winchester, Hampshire, England; died 3 Nov 1219, Damietta, Egypt; was buried , Acre, Palestine.

    Notes:

    Earl of Winchester. Also spelled Saier, Saer.

    Magna Carta surety.

    Steward of the King 1205-7; Constable of Fotheringay Castle 1215; Judge in the King's Court 1211, 1213-14; Keeper of Canford and Hedingham Castles 1214.

    Died in the Fifth Crusade. His heart was brought back and interred at Garendon Abbey near Loughborough, a house endowed by his wife's family. The rest of him was buried in Acre. [Royal Ancestry]

    Saher married Margaret of Leicester Bef 1173. Margaret (daughter of Robert de Bréteuil and Pernel de Grandmesnil) died 12 Jan 1235. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 328. Robert de Quincy  Descendancy chart to this point died 1217, London, England.
    2. 329. Hawise de Quincy  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1263; was buried , Earls Colne Priory, Halstead, Essex, England.
    3. 330. Orabel de Quincy  Descendancy chart to this point
    4. 331. Roger de Quincy  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1195; died 25 Apr 1264.
    5. 332. Robert de Quincy  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1200, of Wakes Colne, Essex, England; died Aug 1257.

  74. 203.  William de Huntingfield Descendancy chart to this point (119.Alice7, 63.Maud6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1160, of Huntingfield, Suffolk, England; died Bef 25 Jan 1221.

    Notes:

    Magna Carta surety. He was among the barons excommunicated by Pope Innocent in late 1215, and his lands were taken by the king. He reduced Essex and Sussex for Prince Louis of France, and in consequence his lands in Norfolk and Suffolk were plundered by John. He was taken prisoner at the battle of Lincoln, 20 May 1217, and his Lincolnshire lands were given to John Marshal. At the war's end, he made peace with Henry III and was restored to his estates.

    Warden of the Cinque Ports. Constable of Dover Castle, 1203-04. Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk, 1209-11. Justice itinerant in Lincolnshire.

    He died on crusade, possibly in the Near East. 25 Jan 1221 is that date on which his son Roger gave 100 marks for the livery of his inheritance.

    William married Isabel de Gressinghall Bef 1194. Isabel was born Between 1160 and 1165; died 1207. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 333. Alice de Huntingfield  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 334. Roger de Huntingfield  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1200, of Huntingfield, Suffolk, England; died 19 Jun 1257.

  75. 204.  Robert Mauduit Descendancy chart to this point (120.Isabel7, 65.Simon6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1172, of Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England; died Bef 19 Jun 1222.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 22 Jun 1222, of Hartley, Buckinghamshire, England

    Notes:

    Hereditary Chamberlain of the Exchequer. Joined the barons against John in 1215, but made his piece with Henry III in 1217.

    Robert married Isabel Basset Bef 1194. Isabel (daughter of Thurstan Basset) was born , of Thurleigh, Bedfordshire, England; died Between 24 Oct 1225 and 11 Dec 1225. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 335. William Mauduit  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1194, of Martley Mauduit, Hampshire, England; died Bef 14 Feb 1257.

  76. 205.  Margaretha van Holland Descendancy chart to this point (121.Aleida7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 1203.

    Margaretha married Dietrich V. Dietrich (son of Dietrich IV and Adelheid von Sulzbach) was born Between 1160 and 1170; died Bef 1202. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 336. Dietrich VI Nust  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1185; died 13 May 1260.

  77. 206.  Willem I Descendancy chart to this point (121.Aleida7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1170; died 4 Feb 1222.

    Notes:

    Count of Holland.

    Willem married Aleida van Gelre. Aleida (daughter of Otto I van Gelre and Richardis von Scheyern-Wittelsbach) was born Abt 1187; died 4 Feb 1218. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 337. Floris IV  Descendancy chart to this point was born 24 Jun 1210; died 19 Jul 1234.

  78. 207.  Ada of Scotland Descendancy chart to this point (122.William7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 24 Sep 1200.

    Notes:

    Founder of a nunnery at St. Bothans, now Abbey St. Bathans, according to The Scots Peerage [citation details below].

    Ada married Patrick of Dunbar 1184. Patrick (son of Waldeve of Dunbar and Aline) was born 1152; died 31 Dec 1232; was buried , St. Mary's Cistercian convent, Eccles, Berwickshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 338. Patrick of Dunbar  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1185; died Aft 14 Apr 1248, Marseilles, France.

  79. 208.  Isabel of Scotland Descendancy chart to this point (122.William7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Also called Isabel FitzWilliam.

    Isabel married Robert de Ros 1191, Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. Robert (son of Everard de Ros and Roese Trussebut) was born Abt 1170-1172, Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died Bef 23 Dec 1226, year only.; was buried , Temple Church, London, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 339. Robert de Ros  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Wark, Northumberland, England; died Bef Nov 1269.
    2. 340. William I de Ros  Descendancy chart to this point was born Aft 1192, of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England; died 1258; was buried , Kirkham Priory, Yorkshire, England.

  80. 209.  Margaret of Scotland Descendancy chart to this point (122.William7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Between 1187 and 1195; died Bef 25 Nov 1259; was buried , Black Friars, Holborn, London, England.

    Margaret married Hubert de Burgh Jun 1221, York, Yorkshire, England. Hubert (son of Walter de Burgh and Alice) was born Abt 1170; died 1243; was buried , Black Friars, Holborn, London, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 341. Margaret de Burgh  Descendancy chart to this point died Nov 1237.

  81. 210.  Alexander II, King of Scotland Descendancy chart to this point (122.William7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 24 Aug 1198, Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland; died 8 Jul 1249, Kerrera, Argyll, Scotland; was buried , Melrose Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

    Alexander married (Unknown mistress of Alexander II). [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 342. Marjory of Scotland  Descendancy chart to this point

    Alexander married Joan of England 19 Jun 1221, York, Yorkshire, England. Joan (daughter of John, King of England and Isabel of Angoulême, Queen Consort of England) was born 22 Jul 1210, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England; died 4 Mar 1238, York, Yorkshire, England; was buried , Tarrant Keynston Abbey, Tarrant Crawford, Dorset, England. [Group Sheet]


  82. 211.  Constance of Brittany Descendancy chart to this point (123.Margaret7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1162; died 4 Sep 1201, Nantes, France.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 5 Sep 1201, Nantes, France

    Constance married Guy de Thouars Bef Oct 1199. Guy (son of Geoffroi V and Aumur) was born Abt 1155; died 13 Apr 1213, Chemillé, France. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 343. Alix de Thouars  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1201; died 21 Oct 1221; was buried , Convent of the Cordeliers, Nantes, France.

  83. 212.  Henry de Bohun Descendancy chart to this point (123.Margaret7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1175, of Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England; died 1 Jun 1220, Palestine; was buried , Llanthony Priory, outside Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate birth: 1176
    • Alternate birth: Abt 1176, of Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England

    Notes:

    Earl of Hereford. Hereditary Constable of England. Sheriff of Kent, 1200.

    Magna Carta surety; as such, excommunicated by Innocent III 16 Dec 1215. Fought for Louis of France at the battle of Lincoln, where he was taken prisoner 20 May 1217, subsequently released and his forfeited lands restored. Left on the Fifth Crusade 1219; died in Palestine the following year.

    Henry married Maud de Mandeville. Maud (daughter of Geoffrey fitz Peter and Beatrice de Say) died 27 Aug 1236. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 344. Humphrey de Bohun  Descendancy chart to this point was born Aft 28 Apr 1199; died 24 Sep 1275; was buried , Llanthony Priory, outside Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England.

  84. 213.  Margaret of Scotland Descendancy chart to this point (124.David7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1185; died Bef 14 Jun 1243.

    Margaret married David de Lindsay Bef 1201. David (son of William de Lindsay and Alice de Limesi) was born Between 1175 and 1180; died 1213. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 345. Alice de Lindsay  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1205; died Aft 30 Nov 1288.

  85. 214.  Isabel of Huntingdon Descendancy chart to this point (124.David7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Bef 20 Mar 1252; was buried , Sawtrey Abbey, Huntingdonshire, England.

    Isabel married Robert de Brus. Robert (son of William de Brus and Christian) was born , of Annandale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland; died Between 1226 and 1233; was buried , Guisborough Priory, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 346. Robert de Brus  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1220, of Annandale, Dumfriesshire, Scotland; died 31 Mar 1295, Lochmaben Castle, Dumfriesshire, Scotland; was buried 17 Apr 1295, Guisborough Priory, Yorkshire, England.

  86. 215.  Ada of Huntingdon Descendancy chart to this point (124.David7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Aft 2 Nov 1241.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: Bef 1247

    Ada married Henry Hastings Aft 1224. Henry (son of William de Hastings and Margaret le Bigod) was born Abt 1205, of Blunham, Bedfordshire, England; died Bef 9 Aug 1250. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 347. Henry de Hastings  Descendancy chart to this point was born , of Ashill, Norfolk, England; died 1268.
    2. 348. Hillary de Hastings  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 1294.

  87. 216.  Margaret of Huntingdon Descendancy chart to this point (124.David7, 66.Henry6, 36.Maud5, 17.Judith4, 7.Lambert3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died Abt 6 Jan 1233.

    Margaret married Alan fitz Roland 1209. Alan (son of Roland fitz Uchtred and Ellen de Morville) died Abt 2 Feb 1234; was buried , Dundrennan Abbey, Kircudbright, Scotland. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 349. Devorguille of Galloway  Descendancy chart to this point died 28 Jan 1290; was buried , Sweet Heart Abbey, Galloway, Scotland.

  88. 217.  Jacques d'Avesnes Descendancy chart to this point (125.Matilda7, 67.Matilda6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born 1150; died 7 Sep 1191, Arsulf, Palestine.

    Notes:

    Also called Jacques d'Avesnes.

    From Wikipedia:

    He was the lord of Avesnes, Condé, and Leuze from 1171. In November 1187, James joined the Third Crusade as leader of a detachment of French, Flemish, and Frisian crusaders arriving by ship on the Israeli coast near Acre around 10 September 1189. James and his men came as military reinforcements for the Siege of Acre. At the Battle of Arsulf, James was thrown from his saddle and, after slaying fifteen enemy warriors, was himself cut down. The next day, a search party of Hospitallers and Templars found his body on the battlefield. It was taken back to Arsuf and buried there in a ceremony attended by Richard the Lionheart and Guy of Lusignan.

    Jacques married Adela of Guise 1180. (daughter of Bouchard of Guise and Alix) [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 350. Alix d'Avesnes  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 351. Mathilde d'Avesnes  Descendancy chart to this point died Aft 5 Nov 1236.
    3. 352. Ida d'Avesnes  Descendancy chart to this point died Abt 23 Sep 1216.
    4. 353. Bouchard IV d'Avesnes  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1181; died 7 Sep 1244.

  89. 218.  Hendrik II van Breda Descendancy chart to this point (126.Béatrix7, 67.Matilda6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1192.

    Notes:

    Lord of Breda.

    Hendrik married Christina Bef 1160. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 354. Godfried II van Breda  Descendancy chart to this point

  90. 219.  (Unknown) von Arnsberg Descendancy chart to this point (127.Jutta7, 68.Adelheid6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    (Unknown) married Hermann II. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 355. Gottfried  Descendancy chart to this point

  91. 220.  Adelheid von Arnsberg Descendancy chart to this point (127.Jutta7, 68.Adelheid6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1)

    Notes:

    Heiress of Altena.

    Adelheid married Eberhard. Eberhard (son of Adolf IV and Irmgard von Schwarzenburg-Sponheim) was born Abt 1130; died 23 Jan 1180. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 356. Oda von Altena  Descendancy chart to this point
    2. 357. Arnold von Altena  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1153; died Abt 1209.
    3. 358. Friedrich I von der Mark  Descendancy chart to this point was born Bef 1155; died 1199.

  92. 221.  Heinrich I Descendancy chart to this point (127.Jutta7, 68.Adelheid6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1130.

    Notes:

    Count of Arnsberg and Rietberg.

    Heinrich married Ermengarde. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 359. Gottfried II  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1157; died Between 1235 and 1236.

  93. 222.  Poppo VI von Henneberg Descendancy chart to this point (128.Bertha7, 69.Agnes6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 14 Sep 1190.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 14 Sep 1191

    Notes:

    Count of Henneberg.

    Poppo married Sophie. Sophie (daughter of Berthold V and Hedwig von Wittelsbach) died 2 Jan 1218. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 360. Poppo VII von Henneberg  Descendancy chart to this point died 21 Mar 1245.

  94. 223.  Irmgard von Henneberg Descendancy chart to this point (128.Bertha7, 69.Agnes6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 15 Jul 1197.

    Irmgard married Konrad von Hohenstaufen. Konrad (son of Frederick II von Hohenstaufen and Agnes von Saarbrücken) was born 1135; died 8 Nov 1195. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 361. Agnes von Hohenstaufen  Descendancy chart to this point was born 1176; died 9 May 1204.

  95. 224.  Margaret von Limburg Descendancy chart to this point (129.Henry7, 70.Walram6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) died 1172.

    Other Events:

    • Alternate death: 1173

    Margaret married Godfrey III 1158. Godfrey (son of Godfrey II and Luitgarde of Sulzbach) was born Abt 1141; died 10 Aug 1190; was buried , St. Peter's Church, Leuven, Belgium. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 362. Henri I of Brabant  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1158; died 5 Sep 1235, Koln, Germany; was buried , St. Peter's, Leuven, Belgium.

  96. 225.  Heinrich III Descendancy chart to this point (129.Henry7, 70.Walram6, 37.Heinrich5, 18.Jutta4, 8.Gerberge3, 3.Mathilde2, 1.Gerberga1) was born Abt 1140; died 21 Jun 1226.

    Notes:

    Duke of Limburg. Count of Arlon.

    Heinrich married Sophie von Saarbrücken. Sophie (daughter of Simon I von Saarbrücken and Mechtild) died Aft 1214. [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. 363. Isalda von Limburg  Descendancy chart to this point died Abt 1221.
    2. 364. Walram IV of Luxembourg  Descendancy chart to this point was born Abt 1180; died Aft 25 May 1226.