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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #1 from John M. Ford</title>
         <description>comment from John M. Ford on 18.Jul.02</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One might think of the Net as a memory palace, built under the instructions of Mrs. Winchester, to elevations by Maurits Escher, on the scale of Angkor Wat.</p>

<p>Or possibly it was laid out that way, but the original was lost during the Great Vowel Shift and we now see an artistic reconstruction by Bruce McCall.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 18, 2002 12:28 PM by John M. Ford&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #2 from Avram</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa, for a monet I wasn't sure if your were talking about the web, and thought that you had to keep yourself occupied to ward off recurring halucinations of Jesus chowing down on guinea pig.  </p>

<p>I've been reading too much Tim Powers.  (Did I mention that Declare is out in mass-market paperback?)  <br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 18, 2002  4:08 PM by Avram&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #3 from Arthur D. Hlavaty</title>
         <description>comment from Arthur D. Hlavaty on 18.Jul.02</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word K-Mac is looking for is sfwametrics.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 18, 2002  6:44 PM by Arthur D. Hlavaty&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #4 from Erik V. Olson</title>
         <description>comment from Erik V. Olson on 18.Jul.02</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although K-mac hasn't taken it to the logical conclusion. I can't find out how well Clarke does when nominated in east coast cities. </p>

<p>(If you think this is a joke, you've never seen The Elias Baseball Analyst. Last edition was 1989. Alas.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 18, 2002  9:51 PM by Erik V. Olson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #5 from Christopher Hatton</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avram, "For a monet"?  I would take this for a typo if we weren't talking about painting, and if you weren't such a clever fellow.</p>

<p>Hmm, "for a monet I wasn't sure if you were talking about the web..." AHA!  You were distracted by a painting of some water lilies!</p>

<p>Is that right?  Isitisitisit?  :-)</p>

<p>Titivolus vincit!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 18, 2002 11:51 PM by Christopher Hatton&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #6 from Bob Webber</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh.  My.  God.  It's a social-theorist Hugo gripe session!</p>

<p>I think, though, that "Zounds!" &amp;c. are euphemisms for earlier theatrical swearing, which was outlawed from licensed theatres and publishing by an, um, Bible-minded monarch, James Stuart.  Probably the ad campaign depicted at Broughton is part of what brought that about.</p>

<p>By the way, my explanation for the stylistic differences between the central figure and the surrounding ones (several of whom seem to have the same face) is that it's the result of a Cartoon Jam.</p>

<p>Cf. "Time Travellers Guide to Stuart England" at &lt;http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/guide17/part05.html&gt; for the early C. 17 attitude toward swearing.  If memory serves, the Tudors kept a court that was rather loose-mouthed on religious niceties, though very careful of avoiding any whiff of Politics.</p>

<p><br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 19, 2002  9:46 AM by Bob Webber&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #7 from Bob Webber</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr Mike:</p>

<p>Yes, all that at the same time, and the habitants are all delusional schizophrenics.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 19, 2002  9:48 AM by Bob Webber&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #8 from Cassandra Phillips-Sears</title>
         <description>comment from Cassandra Phillips-Sears on 19.Jul.02</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite "what on earth were they thinking" site might be villiansupply.com. </p>

<p>http://villainsupply.com/doomsday.html</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 19, 2002 12:47 PM by Cassandra Phillips-Sears&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #9 from Bob Webber</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh!  Look!  A cute little psychopathic villain with a doomsday device!  Isn't he a cuuuuteeeee...</p>

<p>Definitely a page with some potential for making T. fall down and go boom.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 19, 2002  8:17 PM by Bob Webber&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the one with the very efficient, not terribly expensive doomsday device, that just needs one tiny...um, huge...diamond to work.  And not just any diamond.  A PARTICULAR diamond.</p>

<p>Reminds me of the evil overlord lists.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 19, 2002 11:51 PM by Christopher Hatton&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #11 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so, Mike. I like the part about the frogs best. </p>

<p>Avram, Christ eating a guinea pig is not one of my characteristic hallucinations. Mine tend to involve animate misbehavior on the part of hitherto inanimate objects.</p>

<p>Bob, I don't know about euphemisms, but "zounds" is a contraction of "God's wounds", and "s'blood" is a contraction of "God's blood". And if (as the site suggests) swearing by sacramental symbols and objects counts , French Canadians are still doing it.</p>

<p>I've known villainsupply.com for some time now -- and yes, I found it while hunting for variant Evil Overlord lists. I won't claim I've been from one end of this galaxy to the other, but I have seen a lot of strange stuff.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 20, 2002 12:32 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #12 from Bob Webber</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa, what I meant was that an earlier generation just frankly swore, "by God's wounds!" or "by Christ's foot!"</p>

<p>Under Jacobean strictures on speech and the theatre (and in particular the accompanying fines and punishments) people quickly learned to say "Zounds!" or to swear "by Pharaoh's foot!"</p>

<p>The euphemisms and substitutions presumably saves Our Lord from gradual dismemberment as he uncomplainingly covered the bad debts left by false oaths.  Or did so well enough that those who insisted on a higher degree of verbal purity had to move to Massachusetts to found a more Pious Commonwealth.</p>

<p>(Ah, if only they could see the Confederacy of Scofflaws and Generation of Pottymouths for whom they prepared the ground.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 20, 2002  2:57 PM by Bob Webber&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #13 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So "Zounds!" is like saying "Geeminently Christmas"? Sheesh. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 21, 2002 10:21 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #14 from John M. Ford</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While "sheesh," of course, is an ablation of "baksheesh," implying "you couldn't pay me to say that."</p>

<p>JMF, Unstable Narcolepton Emitter</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 22, 2002  3:33 PM by John M. Ford&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #15 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>thud</i></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 22, 2002  5:05 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm afraid that the proposed root of "sheesh" is a bak formation.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 22, 2002  7:41 PM by Bob Webber&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 23.Jul.02</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Kyrie elision.</i></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 23, 2002  7:40 AM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #18 from Mark Bourne</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then, of course, there's the most accurate and life-shaping astrology site on the Web (now *that's* saying something).  I live by its Truth:</p>

<p>http://www.humorscope.com/</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 23, 2002 12:24 PM by Mark Bourne&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #19 from DM SHERWOOD</title>
         <description>comment from DM SHERWOOD on 24.Jul.02</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about pages found on the Web that you had no buisness even thinking about. Thought you might be interested in that Surrealist Work <br />
'The Virgin Spanking the Chist Child before Three Witnesss' by <br />
Max Ernst<br />
URL http://www.duke.edu/web/lit132/spanking.html </p>

<p>I swear I was researching the Surrealists Honest<br />
                     Yours DMS</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 24, 2002  7:18 AM by DM SHERWOOD&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #20 from Mary Kay</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I don't understand is why no one is commenting on the rose FAQ.  That's the funniest thing I've seen in a coon's age.</p>

<p>Of course, I just returned from a week in Oklahoma with my parents and my sense of humor may not yet be properly restored.</p>

<p>MKK</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 24, 2002  3:16 PM by Mary Kay&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Kay, it made me laugh out loud, and later when I went back and re-read it, it did it again. It's funny if you know anything about gardening, and cataplexy-inducing if you know from roses.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 25, 2002  8:26 AM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #22 from Mary Kay</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's odd you know.  I know all that stuff, or lots of it anyhow but I hate actually doing anything relating to gardening.  I like looking at the results, but I hire someone to come and do all that work.  My father can grow anything anywhere and I guess I picked up all that knowledge by osmosis.  Well that and omnivorous reading.</p>

<p>MKK</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 25, 2002 11:09 AM by Mary Kay&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #23 from Kip T. Williams</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good coincidence I should read this just now. I was musing on a line from "Shakespeare's Lost Comedie" (Firesign Theatre) less than an hour ago: "'Snuts! What's happened to our righteous Speed?"</p>

<p>Just so you'll know, I forwarded the rose FAQs to two or three people, at least one of whom appreciated it, and another of whom I haven't heard from yet. One question I didn't see on there: "What is a rose is a rose is a rose is a rose?"</p>

<p>All this Christ Child stuff reminds me of an early National Lampoon article, a memoir by His cousin, which mentions how Jeez was kind of a weirdo, and the other kids used to 'leper' him, running away and shouting "Ding ding! Unclean!"</p>

<p>Then there was the Christmas when all the grandkids (our generation) received ceramic Baby Jesi. There was some conferring about what to do with them. The unimaginative were all for simply hiding or losing them somewhere. I wanted to try and collect enough to have a Baby J chess set, but since this wasn't realistic, I fell back on the notion of obtaining a second one, then drilling holes in the tops of their heads to make delightful salt and pepper shakers.</p>

<p>Kip</p>

<p>ps: What does "Remember info" do? I originally guessed it was so I wouldn't have to retype that stuff every time, but that doesn't seem to be the case. "Forget Personal Information" -- at our age, do we really need a button for this?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 26, 2002 10:18 AM by Kip T. Williams&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #24 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 26.Jul.02</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, Mark, I put off looking at that humorous horoscope site because I've seen lots of humorous horoscopes. I finally went and looked. I see why you're so fond of it. That thing reads like Scraps DeSelby at his best.</p>

<p>DM, I'd seen it before, but that is in fact one darned strange painting.</p>

<p>Kip, "A rose is a rose is a rose is a rose" was Gertrude misunderstanding one of Pabs' complaints about Alice's boring cooking.</p>

<p>"Remember info" is supposed to keep you from having to retype it every time. It came with the template. I haven't tried the "Forget Personal Information" button because I'm afraid it would work.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 26, 2002 12:29 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning house, and other inexplicable destinations -- comment #25 from Earl Cooley III</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I browsed a site that sells the Jesus athletic statues and they really missed a trick with the gymnastics statue: it should have been the iron cross on the still rings. The symbolism would have been rather compelling....</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  1, 2002  2:12 AM by Earl Cooley III&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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