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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #1 from Stefan Jones</title>
         <description>comment from Stefan Jones on 26.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This gets me thinking: Are there any places in Europe that claim that they were settled or visited in ancient time by bands of Native Americans?</p>

<p>If no, GET TO IT! For a nominal fee, I can provide assistance in the form of Authentic Style "Red Injun (tm)" Brand tomahawks and arrow heads to plant around the site of your future tourist attraction. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003 12:16 PM by Stefan Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #2 from Lisa Spangenberg</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is funny, but the underlying "myth" is vaguely similar to the film "Joe Versus the Volcano."</p>

<p>http://us.imdb.com/Title?0099892</p>

<p>Also quite funny, and charming, though it was a box office dud.</p>

<p>L</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003 12:31 PM by Lisa Spangenberg&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #3 from Derryl Murphy</title>
         <description>comment from Derryl Murphy on 26.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three little words, Teresa: "Oh my heck!"</p>

<p>I really really really miss that state.</p>

<p>D</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  1:00 PM by Derryl Murphy&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #4 from Claude Muncey</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live and work near a couple of communities settled by Norwegians about a century ago (not to many batchelor farmers though) that tend to have a sense of humor.  Hmm . . . how about an embassy to their separated brethren during the festival?  With costumes of course . . . and I think I know who to mention it to . . .</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  1:15 PM by Claude Muncey&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #5 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am too polite to say what this made me think...</p>

<p>*makes Will-8 roll, just barely*</p>

<p>Yes, I am.  Too.  Polite.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  1:20 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #6 from Keith</title>
         <description>comment from Keith on 26.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Viking Festival without debauchery... sounds a bit iffy to me. There should be at the very least a local meed brewing contest... But then it is Utah. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  1:44 PM by Keith&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #7 from Dave Bell</title>
         <description>comment from Dave Bell on 26.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weekends back I was at Lincoln Castle, watching the Romans.</p>

<p>They had catapults.</p>

<p>Fortunately there was a substantial medieval wall between the targets and where I'd parked my car.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  2:55 PM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #8 from David Moles</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the reaction in New Zealand to Peter Jackson&#8217;s <i>Forgotten Silver</i> (if you haven&#8217;t seen it, do): a TV mock documentary about the discovery of a cache of films from a near-mythical early 20th-century NZ film pioneer named Colin Mackenzie (including, among other things, footage from Gallipoli, 'proof' that Richard Perase really did fly before the Wright Brothers, and so on) followed by an expedition into the bush to find the massive sets constructed for Mackenzie&#8217;s Biblical epic <i>Salome</i>, the premi&egrave;re of the restored film, et cetera...</p>

<p>At any rate, according to the accompanying short feature on the DVD, when <i>Silver</i> was broadcast there was nothing (other than the fact that it was in a &#8216;drama&#8217; time slot) to indicate that it was fiction, and the result was comparable to Orson Welles&#8217; &#8220;War of the Worlds&#8221; broadcast; only instead of terror at the thought of invading Martians, Kiwi viewers were filled with pride at the discovery of a new national hero &#8212; and many of them were <i>extremely</i> angry to find out that their patriotic emotions had been so cruelly toyed with.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  4:34 PM by David Moles&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8212; that should have been &#8220;Pearse&#8221.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  4:35 PM by David Moles&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #10 from Janni</title>
         <description>comment from Janni on 26.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone ought send this guy some of the best drinking and puking scenes out of EGIL'S SAGA, just so he'll be clear on what real Vikings are like.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  5:26 PM by Janni&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #11 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I need to point out the parodic nature of the Viking story?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  5:57 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #12 from David Moles</title>
         <description>comment from David Moles on 26.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you might.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  7:24 PM by David Moles&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #13 from Kevin Andrew Murphy</title>
         <description>comment from Kevin Andrew Murphy on 26.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa,</p>

<p>Compared to the various tales from the book of Mormon you've mentioned, or Emperor Ximu and his Thetans, the Krakatoa-like displacement of Viking settlers from Polynesia is positively mundane.</p>

<p>Besides which, as is obvious to any student of Victorian occultism (which has as much provenance as the Book of Mormon, and more than Dianetics), the coral atol that Eric and his father Harald landed on was either the Isle of Mu or some chunk of lost Lemuria, and they accidentally activated the vril-powered escape beams that the Lemurian survivors used to transport themselves to Mount Shasta in northern California.</p>

<p>Now mind you, I'm only going into theory here, but there must have been a massive charge of vril in the batteries built up after all those years, so instead of also transplanting Eric, Harold and the viking settlement to Mount Shasta, they overshot--no doubt due to the powerful network of ley lines in the north part of San Jose, which was bought up for this reason by the Rosicrucians--and found themselves in what would later become Utah.</p>

<p>Vril of course is an unearthly substance which allowed the Lemurians to levitate and perform other miracles, and is usually depicted as transparent and green, so it's hardly any wonder that some form of ancestral memory is at work, causing the decendants to fixate on green Jell-o.</p>

<p>I mean, it makes peaches levitate.  What else could it be?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  8:05 PM by Kevin Andrew Murphy&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #14 from Ulrika</title>
         <description>comment from Ulrika on 26.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a circuitous route to connect back to marshmallows.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  9:11 PM by Ulrika&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #15 from Paul Riddell</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I love to tell people the real origin of the word "Lemuria" when I'm feeling particularly cranky toward New Agers and other pseudoarchaeology fanatics.  What most New Agers don't realize is that the name was originally coined in the 1920s, before Wegener's theories of continental drift were presented, much less accepted.  (As an aside, we don't appreciate it today, but H.P. Lovecraft's acceptance of continental drift in his story "At The Mountains of Madness" would have killed his career had he been a geologist or palaeontologist at the time.  Even as late as 1969, some professors risked tenure by espousing continental drift.)  back then, palaeontologists needed an explanation as to how lemurs could have traveled from North America (where they're known from fossils) to Madagascar (where they're known today".  Since a land bridge from North America to Africa was a lot less plausible than a now-submerged land bridge from Africa to Madagascar, one then-popular theory was to look at a possible sunken continent now occupying the bottom of the Atlantic.  Behold, Lemuria!</p>

<p>Of course, the theoretical Lemuria wouldn't have had civilizations, considering that it was supposed to have sunk some 30 to 50 million years ago.  However, that's never stopped the New Agers, even after repeated scans of the Atlantic basin show no such sunken continent.  Ah well...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003  9:58 PM by Paul Riddell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <description>comment from John M. Ford on 26.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would issue a sweeping observation that would place this all into a cosmic perspective and explain the wacky weekend Helena Blavatsky and Immanuel Velikovsky spent together in an orgone box, but it's been a long week and I'm a little short of vril.</p>

<p>Of course, the crowd who own the Kensington Runestone -still- haven't gotten the joke.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 26, 2003 10:24 PM by John M. Ford&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #17 from Larry Lurex</title>
         <description>comment from Larry Lurex on 27.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy to report that several English people whose families have never travelled further abroad than France report American Indian parentage, and stress the importance of living in the traditional ways, smoking pipes of peace and eating bison.  Living in tipis is, of course, second nature to them.</p>

<p>Furthermore, they usually have knife throwing acts and chant "Ai ai ai ah" while throwing.</p>

<p>Happily, these people tend to move to the west country, where they are all a bit potty anyway.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 27, 2003 10:48 AM by Larry Lurex&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #18 from PiscusFiche</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Oh, that's great. (I needed that laugh to start my day.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 27, 2003 11:40 AM by PiscusFiche&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was it here or someplace else that brough to my attention the <a href="http://www.naaog.de/englisch/index_engl.html" rel="nofollow">Native American Association of Germany</a>?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 27, 2003  1:12 PM by David Moles&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, the Native American/German thing originates with Karl May, who about a hunnerd years back was an immensely popular author of pulp Westerns.  He never visited the US (I think he never left Germany), but he seems to have at least tried to get things right.  The German Eingeborenamerikanergekleidetevolksbunde go way back, and (at least from what little I've seen) they generally don't claim ancestry, they just want to live that way, and most make their best attempt to do so accurately.</p>

<p>This doesn't mean it isn't a fantasy life, but it's a different sort of fantasy life than imagining you're descended from the Lords of Mu.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 27, 2003  4:40 PM by John M. Ford&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #21 from Clark E Myers</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl May tried to get things right? I don't think so - the thriving cactus forests of West Texas? He certainly left Germany (Switzerland, Italy at least likely enough Austria) though not I think to live - didn't visit North America afaik. After he made his reputation he tried to backfill (obsf retcon) and had copies of the famous guns of his heroes made and such. It's interesting to note though that while SCAdians are dressing like (among others) medieval Germans, Germans are dressing like medieval Americans. Moscow Hide and Fur did and likely still does a thriving German business in all the bear gall and porcupine quills and other odds and ends as well as the hide and fur.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 27, 2003 10:36 PM by Clark E Myers&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Compared to the various tales from the book of Mormon you've mentioned, or Emperor Ximu and his Thetans, the Krakatoa-like displacement of Viking settlers from Polynesia is positively mundane.</i></p>

<p>That's what I was too polite to say.  Not that...er...that is...</p>

<p>Never mind.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 28, 2003  2:45 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <description>comment from Sander on 29.Jun.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: Blavatsky wrote in "The Secret Doctrine" (published 1888) about the seven root-races, the third of which lived in Lemuria, a continent that "embraced large areas in the Indian and Pacific oceans, and also portions of what is now Africa". I can't find an etymology for this use of the word, and I can't make sense of the time this continent was supposed to exist; but apparently the term itself was in use before the 1920's.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June 29, 2003  3:57 PM by Sander&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Outbreak of humor in Cedar City, UT; St. George area residents protest -- comment #24 from Tuxedo Slack</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am happy to report that several English people whose families have never travelled further abroad than France report American Indian parentage</i></p>

<p>How! Great man of peace! We understand!</p>

<p>(Ref that, anyone?)</p>]]>
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