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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #1 from Xopher</title>
         <description>comment from Xopher on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been looking at it frequently, noting the changes, and agonizing over which version of certain ones to pick...also I can't quite afford to buy them all, alas.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  2:12 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #2 from Avram</title>
         <description>comment from Avram on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CafePress doesn't bother to tell us whether the 80 sheets of premium 60lb book weight paper in the Toroidal Journal are ruled or blank. I'm guessing ruled, which rules it out for me, though "wire-o bound" has a musical sound and the cover is charming and nifty. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  2:12 PM by Avram&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #3 from Claude Muncey</title>
         <description>comment from Claude Muncey on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first reaction to "Toroidal lime shirt with additional dumb joke" was to wonder if they used <i>genuine</i> toroidal limes to get that color.</p>

<p>Must be a short circuit somewhere.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  2:34 PM by Claude Muncey&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #4 from betsy</title>
         <description>comment from betsy on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have the pink girly nutbar shirt and am waiting for an appropriate occasion to spring it on an unwary public. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  2:36 PM by betsy&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #5 from Xopher</title>
         <description>comment from Xopher on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I ordered a nutbar (yum!), a large comment thread mug, and n ll yr vwls shrt.  I mean shirt.  I'll order the other things I want right before WorldCon, so's they'll be fresh like.</p>

<p>Claude, you could also use those to make Keyhole Lime Pie.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  2:44 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #6 from Michael</title>
         <description>comment from Michael on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My "Large Inscrutable Mug 3" has been a complete success: in addition to holding a good 25% more coffee than the paper cups provided by my employer, the mugs text has in its first week derailed three meetings and entertained the administrative assistant for the hour it took her to decode it (she's way too good at that to remain an AA for long....). </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  2:45 PM by Michael&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #7 from Jon Hansen</title>
         <description>comment from Jon Hansen on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of revealing my status, what's the difference between auctorial insanities, deluded pro version and nonpro version?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  2:48 PM by Jon Hansen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #8 from Dan Blum</title>
         <description>comment from Dan Blum on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pro versions are the ones with the stripes on the back that say "I AM A PROFESSIONAL WRITER. I TELL LIES TO STRANGERS FOR MONEY."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  2:51 PM by Dan Blum&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #9 from Jon Hansen</title>
         <description>comment from Jon Hansen on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah.  I do that from time to time, but the money I've made at it probably wouldn't even cover a single mortgage payment.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  2:55 PM by Jon Hansen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #10 from Claude Muncey</title>
         <description>comment from Claude Muncey on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're quite right, Xopher, and I haven't had some Keyhole Lime Pie in a long time (I hear the version served at the CIA and NRO cafeterias is excellent).  The problem is that I can't seem to find torodial limes in the markets our here on the left coast.  </p>

<p>Teresa, you seem to have good sources for citrus.  Any luck finding these in NYC?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  2:55 PM by Claude Muncey&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #11 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I'm sure they sell them at the greenmarket right there in front of the Flatiron Building.  In little open crates called 'skidoos'.  They hold 23 toroidal limes each.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  3:25 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #12 from Mary Kay</title>
         <description>comment from Mary Kay on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several I intend to order Real Soon Now, but I'm wondering.  Do you intend to do anything with that flag quote of Patrick's?  That's what I'd really like.</p>

<p>MKK</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  4:11 PM by Mary Kay&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #13 from James D. Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from James D. Macdonald on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You only need to add an editor in a nightgown fleeing the Tor building in the "Mars Over Manhattan" picture to have a gothic novel cover.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  6:30 PM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #14 from John (B).</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well, I guess that I may as well pick myself up a nutbar t-shirt to wear around... it's not as if the secret police aren't following me about and reading all my emails already...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  7:52 PM by John (B).&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #15 from Marilee</title>
         <description>comment from Marilee on  7.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Large toroidal mug?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  7, 2004  9:51 PM by Marilee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #16 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  8.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mugs are toroidal to start.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  8, 2004  1:31 AM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #17 from Terry Karney</title>
         <description>comment from Terry Karney on  8.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrmn... I tell lies to people for money, but my profession is in low esteem right now. :)</p>

<p>I guess I'll have to take up writing.</p>

<p>Terry</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  8, 2004  2:26 AM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #18 from Marilee</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant the Toroidal picture on a large mug.  But you probably know that.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  8, 2004 10:53 AM by Marilee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #19 from piet</title>
         <description>comment from piet on 15.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I 've realized for a while this be the only way to make any money off me 'woik' (although adding swirl and swing to the text here n there to then aim at the higher priced fashion industry is more like what I have in mind) .. . .care to 'frienchoice' some morcels of mine .. .make my light heavy . .. come on I dare ya.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 15, 2004  4:13 AM by piet&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #20 from Xopher</title>
         <description>comment from Xopher on 18.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got my "I deeply resent" and "LL YR VWLS" t-shirts, and my Comment Thread mug.  Boy they're nice.  I'm holding off on any more t-shirts until I know what size I'll be for Worldcon. (I've already gone from XL to M...probably never be S, but who knows?)</p>

<p>Reading the comment thread mug, though, I realized that I really want a t-shirt with Patrick's "I'm a patriot" quote on it.  Any chance?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 18, 2004  2:45 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #21 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick's uncomfortable with that quote right now. Maybe later?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 18, 2004  5:56 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #22 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 18.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marilee, the Tor picture has the wrong aspect ratio for a mug. I'd have to wrap it sideways.</p>

<p>Piet, if there's a page where I can see your work, just give me the URL; but it's very easy to set up a CafePress site of your own. If you don't mind having only one design per product -- one messenger bag, one large mug, etc. -- they'll give you the site for free.</p>

<p>Terry, if you want a shirt that just says "I tell lies to strangers for money," say the word.</p>

<p>The most recent addition was another request. A reader wrote in to say that his parents would really like a nutbar bumper sticker or mug. All hail filial piety.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 18, 2004  6:04 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #23 from Tina</title>
         <description>comment from Tina on 19.May.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't know if anyone else wants one, but <b>I</b> want a t-shirt that says "I tell lies to strangers for money", even though I haven't had fiction published yet. Part of my job involves dealing with clients and vendors...</p>

<p>Also, aesthetics comment: I really like the "all your vowels" joke, but the design as is is makes me twitch. Any chance of a slightly less glowy non-rainbow version, or do I just decide I like the joke too much to let that stop me?</p>

<p>I'll probably be ordering the auctorial insanity, in both current and hopeful status versions. Haven't quite decided yet.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 19, 2004  1:57 PM by Tina&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>T-shirts and other silly things -- comment #24 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, come to think of it...with the flag in disgrace and all.  Right.  Sorry.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 19, 2004  2:32 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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