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Visco

That's "Visco" as in The Visual Index of SF Cover Art. It's a wonky site, but potentially a great resource,...

Visco -- comment #1 from Tracie Brown

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:58:06 -0500

I remember these from my mother's collection. I also remember getting the creeps, as a little kid, from Yoo Hoo.

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Posted November 30, 2005 2:58 PM by Tracie Brown

Visco -- comment #2 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:02:12 -0500

Yeah. Hard to figure out what's going on there. Is it a happy rescue, or the discovery of a forlorn last cry for help?

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Posted November 30, 2005 3:02 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden

Visco -- comment #3 from Keith Kisser

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:15:10 -0500

They're all sort of morbidly humorous, like Edward Gorey filtered through Asimov�s brain. Great stuff.

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Posted November 30, 2005 3:15 PM by Keith Kisser

Visco -- comment #4 from PiscusFiche

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:27:21 -0500

Much more recent, but in the same vein as the "Last Robot", and probably inspired by it, are the paintings of Brian DeSpain.

Some of my favourites are:

Mr. Bubbles Birthday

Blendboy 2000

The Icarus Fish

As for VISCO, eet looks like it could be an awesome resource. Thanks for the link.

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Posted November 30, 2005 3:27 PM by PiscusFiche

Visco -- comment #5 from Serge

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:42:17 -0500

Which rock group's record is it that used Kelly Freas's famous painting of a giant robot gently holding a man in its hand?

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Posted November 30, 2005 3:42 PM by Serge

Visco -- comment #6 from Jeffrey Smith

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:48:51 -0500

Queen

News of the World

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Posted November 30, 2005 3:48 PM by Jeffrey Smith

Visco -- comment #7 from Elyse

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:54:22 -0500

Serge, would you be thinking of Queen's _News of the World_?

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Posted November 30, 2005 3:54 PM by Elyse

Visco -- comment #8 from Serge

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:55:50 -0500

Right. Thanks, Jeffrey.

About another group using SF's icons... To what extent were the Beatles interested in SF? Stephen Baxter once pointed out that H.G.Wells can be found on the cover of Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. And of course there's Ringo's solo album where he used a photo from The Day The Earth Stood Still.

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Posted November 30, 2005 3:55 PM by Serge

Visco -- comment #9 from Claude Muncey

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:19:56 -0500

Well, if we're going that way, there is Klaatu. To the best of my knowledge I have never heard their music, but the sight of the name on an album cover always brought a smile.

When I worked at Switchboard at UC Davis in the mid 70's, the words that Patricia Neal said to the robot was required trivia knowledge, along with what was alleged to be Adolf Hitler's most unusual physical attribute.

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Posted November 30, 2005 4:19 PM by Claude Muncey

Visco -- comment #10 from Serge

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:31:24 -0500

"...Adolf Hitler's most unusual physical attribute..."

OK, I'll bite. And will probably be sorry I said that.

What was Adolf Hitler's most unusual physical attribute?

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Posted November 30, 2005 4:31 PM by Serge

Visco -- comment #11 from Stefan Jones

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:37:20 -0500

Maybe apocryphal:

He only had one ball.

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Posted November 30, 2005 4:37 PM by Stefan Jones

Visco -- comment #12 from Clark E Myers

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:39:33 -0500

This has been a popular sig in some fannish circles:--
Hitler, he only had one ball/Goering, had two but they were small
Himmler, was very simmlar/But poor old Goebbels had no balls at all

I have fond memories of the Emsh Christmas covers for Galaxy. I suspect the notorious cover date slide means the Christmas covers were January issues? Likely my memories are strongly colored as well.

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Posted November 30, 2005 4:39 PM by Clark E Myers

Visco -- comment #13 from Meredith

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:44:31 -0500

Claude, if you are interested in hearing some Klaatu, arguably their most famous song ("Calling Occupants (Of Interplanetary Craft)") is in this WFMU archive.

It's ... different. :)

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Posted November 30, 2005 4:44 PM by Meredith

Visco -- comment #14 from Serge

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:47:27 -0500

Only one? Shot off during the Great War, or a congenital defect (among others of his)? Time for the Historians to pitch in...

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Posted November 30, 2005 4:47 PM by Serge

Visco -- comment #15 from Mark D.

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:53:48 -0500

That Hitler quatrain is traditionally sung to "Colonel Bogey's March". (There's a nice quick story under that link...)

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Posted November 30, 2005 4:53 PM by Mark D.

Visco -- comment #16 from Josh Jasper

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:05:16 -0500

Hah. My future father in law's work is there. God it's cheesy.

PS. Hitler has only got one ball...

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Posted November 30, 2005 5:05 PM by Josh Jasper

Visco -- comment #17 from Josh Jasper

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:05:52 -0500

Damn. Beat me to it.

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Posted November 30, 2005 5:05 PM by Josh Jasper

Visco -- comment #18 from Mark D.

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:17:44 -0500

But you have the complete text, Josh - nice!

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Posted November 30, 2005 5:17 PM by Mark D.

Visco -- comment #19 from Janet Croft

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:39:30 -0500

Good heavens -- I was trying to confirm the fact that Bette Midler used to sing this with great gusto (prolly still does) and came across the Wikipedia article listing a dozen variants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Has_Only_Got_One_Ball

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Posted November 30, 2005 5:39 PM by Janet Croft

Visco -- comment #20 from Robert L

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:42:22 -0500

I may be wrong, but IIRC F&SF did at one time offer prints of some of Hunter's robot series for sale.

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Posted November 30, 2005 5:42 PM by Robert L

Visco -- comment #21 from Claude Muncey

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:02:40 -0500

Well, that didn't take long . . .

According to The Straight Dope this knowlege of is derived from the Russian autopsy, which could only find one. Considering the somewhat worse for wear condition of the remains, the reason for this solitary condition was not clear.

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Posted November 30, 2005 6:02 PM by Claude Muncey

Visco -- comment #22 from Claude Muncey

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:06:18 -0500

My, that was a tortured sentence . . .

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Posted November 30, 2005 6:06 PM by Claude Muncey

Visco -- comment #23 from John M. Ford

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:17:17 -0500

...this knowledge is derived from the Russian autopsy...

Possibly, but the "Colonel Bogey" parody was popular during the war, before any autopsy was possible. And as Magda Goebbels had a large number of children (I believe it was seven), the line about her husband would seem unlikely to have any factual basis. I don't think the song is "based on" anything but a stock insult and some clever rhyme-play.

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Posted November 30, 2005 6:17 PM by John M. Ford

Visco -- comment #24 from Marilee

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:19:48 -0500

Hmph. I posted about VISCO in an open thread quite a while ago!

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Posted November 30, 2005 6:19 PM by Marilee

Visco -- comment #25 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:30:37 -0500

Then all credit and glory to you, Marilee, and shame on me for not registering it at the time.

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Posted November 30, 2005 6:30 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden

Visco -- comment #26 from Tim Walters

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:50:45 -0500

The SF-references-in-music List.

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Posted November 30, 2005 6:50 PM by Tim Walters

Visco -- comment #27 from jhlipton

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:01:17 -0500

The great and wonderful (and lamented) Kelly Freas had "News of the World" (which, IIRC, was used for "A Night at the Opera" cover) for sale at a convention I was at. It was somewhat out of my means, but I did procure "The Goblin Reservation", with a handwritten note, at that time.

One wonders where said painting is now (IIRC, again, it was purchased at said convention)?

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Posted November 30, 2005 7:01 PM by jhlipton

Visco -- comment #28 from John M. Ford

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:56:20 -0500

jh, the painting was on the "News of the World" album ("Night at the Opera" has a mostly white cover with heraldic critters); it's not the Astounding cover, which just had the 'bot and the body, but incorporates the band members and has a larger background to make room for them. I never saw either original, but I'm reasonably sure Kelly was commissioned to do a new painting -- he certainly would have preferred to do that than alter a perfectly good existing one.

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Posted November 30, 2005 7:56 PM by John M. Ford

Visco -- comment #29 from language hat

Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:16:24 -0500

God, those covers take me back. I subscribed to F&SF from the early '60s through most of the '70s, and I collected the earlier ones; seeing those images brings back my youth in almost painful clarity. Thanks for this.

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Posted November 30, 2005 8:16 PM by language hat

Visco -- comment #30 from qB

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:24:00 -0500

Re monorchids, interestingly (to me at least) it is whispered by some Zimbabweans - very quietly and in conditions deemed to be absolutely secure - that their glorious leader Robert Gabriel Mugabe is also afflicted by this condition. It had to be upped to one because the previous version, in which he had none, was belied by the sudden appearance of offspring with his second wife.

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Posted December 1, 2005 6:24 AM by qB

Visco -- comment #31 from qB

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:28:58 -0500

In fact he's got the 'tache too, now I think of it...

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Posted December 1, 2005 6:28 AM by qB

Visco -- comment #32 from Serge

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:36:40 -0500

Is there a jpeg of Freas's painting available somewhere? I'd love to use that as wallpaper for my office computer. (And it'd be appropriate with the way I sometimes feel by the end of the day.)

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Posted December 1, 2005 6:36 AM by Serge

Visco -- comment #33 from Serge

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 07:45:42 -0500

Mike wrote that "...as Magda Goebbels had a large number of children (I believe it was seven), the line about her husband would seem unlikely to have any factual basis..."

Remember, the size is not what matters, but what you do with it. (Last time I heard someone else use that line, I was at the Gap and my co-worker was talking about chainsaws and tree-cutting contests.)

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Posted December 1, 2005 7:45 AM by Serge

Visco -- comment #34 from Gordon Van Gelder

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 09:18:38 -0500

Teresa---

Donald Grant Books sells cards with the Mel Hunter robots on 'em. Check out www.grantbooks.com.

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Posted December 1, 2005 9:18 AM by Gordon Van Gelder

Visco -- comment #35 from Dave Luckett

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 09:39:13 -0500

The surgeons of the Red Army who performed the autopsy on Hitler were clear enough in their description of the situation: They found one testicle, but there was no evidence for a second externally, nor in the abdominal cavity. It would appear never to have descended, an unusual but not terribly uncommon condition. There's no reason to reject their findings, which were signed by all of them.

The questions regarding the matter are, I think, two: what did the undescended testicle mean to Hitler?; and how did the British Army, which sang that ditty in the western desert in 1942, come to be aware of it?

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Posted December 1, 2005 9:39 AM by Dave Luckett

Visco -- comment #36 from James D. Macdonald

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 09:41:13 -0500

"O daughter dear daughter now don't look so sad;
I had the same problem with your dear old dad.
But the postman is eager to answer the call
Of the wife of the man who has no balls at all."

No Balls At All

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Posted December 1, 2005 9:41 AM by James D. Macdonald

Visco -- comment #37 from Lori Coulson

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 10:12:14 -0500

Queen did commission Kelly to redesign the 'bot cover for _News of the World_.

I spoke to him after he'd been somewhere to meet the band (release party, maybe?) and he was delighted to have been asked and burbling over the whole thing.

Ghod, I miss him...

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Posted December 1, 2005 10:12 AM by Lori Coulson

Visco -- comment #38 from John M. Ford

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 14:40:33 -0500

Remember, the size is not what matters, but what you do with it.

The relevant line, however, is "...and Goballs has no balls at all."

Even leaving Magda and her medal-winning performance aside, there was nothing deficient about Joseph's drive -- he used his position (his job, that is) to hump every Ufa starlet he could get hold of.

This concludes the Reay Tannahill Lecture for today.

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Posted December 1, 2005 2:40 PM by John M. Ford

Visco -- comment #39 from Jeffrey Smith

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 14:42:05 -0500

Serge --

If you want the original, it was the cover for the October 1953 Astounding, available on the Visco site.

The Queen version is available at various places, I think.

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Posted December 1, 2005 2:42 PM by Jeffrey Smith

Visco -- comment #40 from Serge

Thu, 01 Dec 2005 14:47:32 -0500

Thanks, Jeffrey.

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Posted December 1, 2005 2:47 PM by Serge

Visco -- comment #41 from Craig McDonough

Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:51:32 -0500

...Ghod, I miss him...

I met him, I think, three times, and will always remember him.

He sort of, bubbled

I think the first time was at one of the "launch-cons" in Florida.

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Posted December 3, 2005 10:51 PM by Craig McDonough