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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #1 from Darice Moore</title>
         <description>comment from Darice Moore on  1.Jun.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year, the local newspaper marked the opening of hurricane season with <a href="http://www.sptimes.com/2006/06/01/State/You_re_on_your_own_Re.shtml" rel="nofollow">an article</a> sternly telling us that we aren't to expect a lot of help, and that we will have to be sure to be able to take care of ourselves for at least 72 hours.  From the governor (Jeb) on down, we are being told we can't just depend on government assistance.</p>

<p>(Not that some of us ever did.  However, that still doesn't address what you do when you have no cash, no way of buying up the recommended supplies, no way of getting out of town, and a living place that could be swamped with water from above or below.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  1, 2006 11:22 PM by Darice Moore&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #2 from Stefan Jones</title>
         <description>comment from Stefan Jones on  1.Jun.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm waiting for Bush to promise government funding for Faith Based Storm Abatement measures.</p>

<p>What does he have left to lose?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  1, 2006 11:28 PM by Stefan Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #3 from Josh Jasper</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case of emergency, eat the politicians first.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  1, 2006 11:33 PM by Josh Jasper&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #4 from James D. Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from James D. Macdonald on  1.Jun.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Bush can declare a War On Bad Weather, and invade Venezuela.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  1, 2006 11:47 PM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #5 from Tuwa</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, do we have to wait for an emergency?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  1, 2006 11:51 PM by Tuwa&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #6 from Writerious</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Army Corps of Engineers recently reported the results of a study suggesting that maybe the levees weren't properly reinforced for a hurricane of that size.</p>

<p>Gee... ya think?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  1, 2006 11:54 PM by Writerious&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #7 from Josh Jasper</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a War On Bad Coffee and invade Japan?  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  1, 2006 11:59 PM by Josh Jasper&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #8 from robert west</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh -- or just a war on coffee, the modern analog of the war on drugs. We could get Brazil and Indonesia that way ...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 12:03 AM by robert west&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #9 from Josh Jasper</title>
         <description>comment from Josh Jasper on  2.Jun.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If coffee is outlawed, only outlaws will be awake enough to function early in the morning.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 12:13 AM by Josh Jasper&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #10 from Vian</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War on coffee?  Argh!  Italians and French persons  would briefly riot, and then settle down for a nap in the streets ... actually, that might not be so terrible.</p>

<p>You can't just declare war on the most essential food group in the pyramid, for heaven's sake.  What next?  The war on decent sparkling red wine?  The war on Extremely Dark Chocolate?  </p>

<p>Declare war on fish. Bleah.  Keep the nasty scaly (occasionally salty furry) things in the deep.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 12:40 AM by Vian&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #11 from CaseyL</title>
         <description>comment from CaseyL on  2.Jun.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>"This year, the local newspaper marked the opening of hurricane season with an article sternly telling us that we aren't to expect a lot of help, and that we will have to be sure to be able to take care of ourselves for at least 72 hours. From the governor (Jeb) on down, we are being told we can't just depend on government assistance."</i></p>

<p>Truth in advertising, GOP version.</p>

<p>The Right has achieved its satori:  the citizenry pays taxes, is told to expect no vital govt services in return, and the citizenry sighs and goes out to buy more candles.</p>

<p>If this was France, Jeb's mansion would already be in flames, and maybe that place his brother lives in, too.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 12:48 AM by CaseyL&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #12 from John</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Corps has now admitted that several of the new flood control levees around New Orleans have settled alarmingly, several feet in places, since they were built in the last few months.  They claim they can fix them, but it will take several more months (and more money) to get it done.</p>

<p>As a civil engineer, I can only wonder how in h*ll the Corps can not get the settlement figured out when building a levee requires piling lots of soil (i.e. weight) on top of wet, soft soil that isn't used to holding up lots of weight.  It's called soil consolidation, people!  Look it up!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  5:32 AM by John&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #13 from Joe Crow</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Right has achieved its satori: the citizenry pays taxes, is told to expect no vital govt services in return, and the citizenry sighs and goes out to buy more candles.</i></p>

<p>Well, at a certain point it becomes too expensive for any bandit group to maintain the facade of "governance" and they revert to their natural state of banditry. Among the first things to go are all those shiny social benefits that they use to keep the peasants comfortable. The last thing to go is their exclusive reservation of the use of violence. Hitting peasants and taking their money is what they're really about, at the core.</p>

<p>Now some members of the bandit group may have forgotten what they were really there for, or may never have realized what they were actually doing, and they get wierded out by the transition, and make noises about "abandoning our responsibilities" and suchlike. This usually results in the more practically minded bandits arranging for them to get it in the neck at the earliest convenient moment. </p>

<p>Question is whether the folks getting raided by the bandits will realize what's going on, or just recruit a new set of bandits to protect them from the old bandits. </p>

<p>And yeah, I do tend to conflate the mafia, Golden Triangle warlords and the US government. They're just different stages of the same social phenomenon. </p>

<p>This anarchist screed was brought to you by the letter A and the number 23.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  5:56 AM by Joe Crow&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #14 from ajay</title>
         <description>comment from ajay on  2.Jun.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War on Coffee? Well, the republic began with a War on Tea, after all...</p>

<p>Again, the John Wyndham line from "The Kraken Wakes" (global warming and rising sea levels in the 1950s...)</p>

<p>"The government, meanwhile, belied its name by being unwilling to take measures to conserve even the lives of its citizens".</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  6:08 AM by ajay&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #15 from Valerie Emanuel</title>
         <description>comment from Valerie Emanuel on  2.Jun.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the honor of living in central Florida, and at this time of year my thoughts turn to . . . backing up my writing. I do this the easy, cheap way. I copy and paste it into an email, then send it to myself.</p>

<p>Soooo much easier to redo the formatting than to retype everything from a hard copy, especially when you'd have to retype an entire novel. And it gives me peace of mind should we be forced to evacuate.</p>

<p>I also keep my jewelry in a ziplock, but that's of much less value to me. :-)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  7:13 AM by Valerie Emanuel&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #16 from Tom S.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie:  Why not just send your writing files as attachments instead of cutting and pasting?  That way you could preserve everything, including formatting.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  8:49 AM by Tom S.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #17 from Lori Coulson</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Writerious: The levees around N'awlins were constructed to handle an F3 hurricane. Katrina was an F5 at one point, and hit the Gulf Coast at F4...</p>

<p>John: You must have missed yesterday's report that the ground in some areas of New Orleans is subsiding AN INCH A YEAR. The current levees were built based on a subsidance rate of ONE FIFTH OF AN INCH A YEAR.</p>

<p>"How high's the water, Mama?"</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  9:39 AM by Lori Coulson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #18 from mike</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn't R. David Paulison the gentleman that recommended we use duct tape and plastic to seal doors and windows in the event of a terrorist attack?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  9:55 AM by mike&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #19 from John</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori,</p>

<p>No, I saw that NO was sinking faster than expected.  That is a separate issue from what I was reporting about.  The levees the Corps has constructed are sitting on unstable soil (which they were apparently unaware of), and the weight of the levee caused it to settle several feet over the last few months.  In engineering terms, that is a lot different from a gradual subsistence of an inch/year.  The sudden settlement of several feet on a project under construction tells me someone didn't do their subsurface investigations properly, or the design of the levees did not take it into account.</p>

<p>Either way, we've got an incompetent agency charged with flood control.  Maybe now something will be done about it.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 10:16 AM by John&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #20 from Diana Rowland</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We started putting our hurricane kits together this week. We have several "stages" of kits this year, after our experience of last year.  The first is, of course, the basic emergency kit: flashlights, water, batteries, duct tape, first aid kit, blah blah blah. The second is the car kit which includes Things To Keep Two Year Old Entertained during endless driving, as well as diapers, finger food, satellite radio, etc.  Third is for the crappy weeks after the storm when there is no power and no food and no gas and no way to buy any of the above: non-perishable food that actually tastes good (please, god, not another MRE!), tons of baby wipes, air mattresses and battery-operated fans for sleeping on the ground floor when it is 99 degrees outside, a few cases of crystal-lite "on the go" water flavoring because last year I got so sick of plain warm water I never wanted to see another bottle, clothesline and clothespins for drying the clothes we will have to wash in the bathtub, bugspray, and sunscreen.</p>

<p>We're also getting the chain saw serviced and ready to go, and putting all of our precious pictures and disks in one box to take during evacuation.  A friend of mine lost everything but the slab of her house in Katrina (she's now living in my rental house in Slidell), and she told me that before she'd evacuated she had very carefully put all of her pictures into ziploc bags.  Right now, in the swamp, there are several ziploc bags floating around containing the (irreplaceable) pictures of her children.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 10:17 AM by Diana Rowland&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #21 from Lori Coulson</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, pardon my language, but *Oh shit!* Several feet???!!! I agree that someone really screwed up.</p>

<p>Diana -- if you haven't done so, you might want to add one of the powdered forms of PedialyteTM (or one of its competitors) to the emergency kit. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 10:25 AM by Lori Coulson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #22 from toni</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diana, I didn't realize you were in New Orleans. I'm in Baton Rouge. I'd have been happy to take you and your family in.</p>

<p>John, not only is it incredulous, but they should have easily known better.  When the builders of "Jazz Land" wanted to build the theme park, they had to drive very deep piles before they hit solid surface, and then they used those as a foundation. This was done a few years ago and was constantly in the news about the state of the sub-surface / soil in and around New Orleans. We're contractors (we do civil construction), and without even doing a test, we knew they needed to not rely on the soil. This is way beyond someone not doing their homework. This is negligence and pure stupidity.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 10:50 AM by toni&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #23 from Dave Bell</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elsenet, an acquaintance disappeared at the end of March.</p>

<p>A month later, people were starting to worry.</p>

<p>He turned up a week or so back. Some big storm had brought down power and telephone lines, and it taken that long to repair.</p>

<p>He hadn't had to eat the minstrels, but there was still much rejoicing.</p>

<p>It doesn't need a hurricane...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 11:38 AM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #24 from Josh Jasper</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedialyte (tm) is OK, but <a href="http://www.jbox.com/PRODUCT/YN716" rel="nofollow">Pocari Sweat powder</a> is nifty, high tech, and above all, so strange and Japanese that no one will steal it.  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 12:11 PM by Josh Jasper&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #25 from Diana Rowland</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori--that's a great idea. Thanks.</p>

<p>Toni--that's a very sweet offer. :)  Actually, we live on the northshore and suffered only minimal damage to our house so it was still livable.  However, I work in law enforcement so I pretty much <i>had</i> to stick around afterwards (slogging through muck and sewage in search and recovery...ugh.)  It was hardest on my then-fifteen-month-old daughter because of the heat.  Basically, each day while I was off doing the search and recovery, as soon as it started to get really hot (y'know, like 8am) my husband would pack the baby into the car (since it had AC) and just drive, often to the other side of Baton Rouge (where gas was available.)</p>

<p>This year, the majority of our preparations take into account how to keep a toddler comfortable and occupied when there's no power.  We even bought a power inverter and several Wiggles DVDs so that she can sit in the car and be occupied.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 12:34 PM by Diana Rowland&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #26 from Mary Aileen Buss</title>
         <description>comment from Mary Aileen Buss on  2.Jun.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh Jasper said: <i>If coffee is outlawed, only outlaws will be awake enough to function early in the morning.</i></p>

<p>This made me shriek with laughter. I am *so* stealing it, and I don't even drink coffee.</p>

<p>--Mary Aileen</p>]]>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #27 from Darice Moore</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Right has achieved its satori: the citizenry pays taxes, is told to expect no vital govt services in return, and the citizenry sighs and goes out to buy more candles.</i></p>

<p>It gets better.  In Florida, because insurance companies are not only refusing to insure new clients, but yanking insurance away from existing ones (that would be our family this year), we are all having to purchase...</p>

<p>...wait for it...</p>

<p>government-provided insurance.  Citizens Insurance is, by the way, about four times more expensive than any other insurance policy.  People who live close to the financial bone are often choosing to forgo insurance (if they own their homes outright), because it's either insure or eat.</p>

<p>Conservative socialism.  It's the worst of both worlds.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  1:01 PM by Darice Moore&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #28 from cheem</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It gets better. In Florida, because insurance companies are not only refusing to insure new clients, but yanking insurance away from existing ones (that would be our family this year), we are all having to purchase...</i></p>

<p><i>...wait for it...</i></p>

<p><i>government-provided insurance. Citizens Insurance is, by the way, about four times more expensive than any other insurance policy. People who live close to the financial bone are often choosing to forgo insurance (if they own their homes outright), because it's either insure or eat.</i></p>

<p>Well, you have to understand that an Insurance Company is all about the Company first... the whole Insurance thing is incidental.  </p>

<p>It simply doesn't make sense from a business point of view to provide hurricane insurance in an area where there's a significant chance of there being a hurricane.  It's like selling flood insurance to people who live on ten-year floodplains.  Now, sell flood insurance to people living on hundred-year floodplains and you're making money.  Maybe you should move to Ohio.  I hear the hurricane insurance rates there are very reasonable.</p>

<p>As for the expensive government insurance, you have to understand that the government has to somehow support itself.  Since it's completely unreasonable to tax the well-off (because, you see, they count and you poor plebs don't), they must make their money by "taxing" the worse off in the manner you just described.  It's a win-win situation... if the poor buy the expensive insurance, then the tax cuts are financed.  If they don't, then they go away after the hurricane and mansions can be built.  Everybody who counts is happy!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  5:04 PM by cheem&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  If businesses are getitng the same treatment.  There's going to be a mass exodus of corporations from FL.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  5:05 PM by Josh Jasper&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #30 from Linkmeister</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"<i>Well, at a certain point it becomes too expensive for any bandit group to maintain the facade of "governance" and they revert to their natural state of banditry. Among the first things to go are all those shiny social benefits that they use to keep the peasants comfortable. The last thing to go is their exclusive reservation of the use of violence. Hitting peasants and taking their money is what they're really about, at the core.</i>"</p>

<p>Um, are you describing Hamas or the Bush Administration?  There seem to be an awful lot of similarities between the two when you put it that way. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  6:35 PM by Linkmeister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #31 from oliviacw</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big corporations will decide to self-insure - I heard a report on NPR recently about Walmart doing just that.  The little ones will do what the originary people do, either suck it up and pay or "self-insure" by going without.  Walmart can survive losing one or two stores out of hundreds, but the single store of Bob's Crawdad Emporium will just fold.</p>]]>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #32 from clew</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About nonperishable food that tastes better than MREs - the Indian meals from "Tasty Bite" are a big, big part of my household's planning. They're good enough to replace most order-in meals. Also, you can order caseloads of them online. </p>

<p>Hey! Maybe all us little folks should start a nonprofit insurance company to cover all of us! We could call it "Government (Not United-States". </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  8:14 PM by clew&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #33 from Linkmeister</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clew, I think that's how Lloyds of London works.  Individual underwriters pool their cash.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  8:34 PM by Linkmeister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #34 from rhandir</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linkmeister,<br />
that is almost exactly how Lloyds works. It's a confedaration of individual underwriters. Except that individual underwriters who write the policies get groups of stooges, er, investors called the Names to place at risk <i>their entire fortune</i> as backing for the insurance. No limited liability there!</p>

<p>Needless to say, when policies don't have to be paid, everybody is happy and makes good money. When things get sticky, a great number of people can be <i>ruined</i> in precisely the Dickensian/Austenian sense. There was a combination of a bad run of luck, dishonesty, and people on fixed incomes (!) buying into being Names during the 80's and 90's. Makes for interesting reading.</p>

<p>Its worth noting that Lloyd's was one of the only insurers who paid <i>all</i> claims on the 1909 San Fransisco Quake and Fire. Cuthbert Heath, then manager of Lloyd's*, cabled back to the San Francisco branch: "Pay all our policyholders in full irrespective of the terms of their policies."   </p>

<p>-r.<br />
*or maybe he just was the particular underwriter who held fire claims in the region. Not quite sure on that detail.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  9:30 PM by rhandir&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #35 from rhandir</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I can't resist adding, from one of Lloyd's own <a href="http://www.lloyds.com/market/Issue2-2006-en/article2.htm" rel="nofollow">pages</a>:<blockquote>And while it’s comforting to think that such a situation [another SF quake] would be better handled today, the aid and clean-up operation for hurricane Katrina last year suggests that such optimism may be misplaced.</blockquote>British understatement being what it is and all, that gives me pause.</p>

<p>-r.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  9:34 PM by rhandir&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rhandir, Dick Francis has used Lloyds' insurance "schemes" in a couple of his novels ("Rat Race" & "Break-In"), or I'd be less informed than I am. ;)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  9:36 PM by Linkmeister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #37 from Lis Riba</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a bit about the insurance problems yesterday morning on NPR. </p>

<p>The inability to get insurance (not affordable insurance, but insurance at all) is one of the major factors holding up the rebuilding of New Orleans. </p>

<p>They mentioned Florida, including the fact that some people are taking out longterm loans in order to pay for their insurance.</p>

<p>And there were similar problems up and down the coast.</p>

<p>If people are unwilling to build without insurance, and insurance is unwilling to cover certain areas at all... what is that going to do to our economy?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  9:36 PM by Lis Riba&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #38 from Linkmeister</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"<i>what is that going to do to our economy?</i>"</p>

<p>You can't get a mortgage without insurance, for one.  That has an impact on lots of businesses, like lenders, homebuilders, construction companies, plumbers, electrical contractors, etc., etc.</p>

<p>So the whole Southeast may be in recession for quite a while if something isn't done about insurance and reinsurance regulation.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006  9:52 PM by Linkmeister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #39 from Climate Writer</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all things climate go to www.realclimate.org. While the hurricane connection to global warming is supported in the Atlantic, general denial by the administration is the order of the day.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 11:20 PM by Climate Writer&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #40 from James D. Macdonald</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it's time for me to link to my <a href="http://www.sff.net/people/doylemacdonald/emerg_kit.htm" rel="nofollow">Emergency Kit</a> inventory lists again.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  2, 2006 11:36 PM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #41 from Scott H</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you're <b>really</b> nervous and well-off financially, I'll call your attention to <a href="http://www.ultimatesecurehome.com/secure_home_amenities.htm" rel="nofollow">the following house.</a>. </p>

<p>$.50 says the guy who built this place this was a Heinlein fan.  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2006 12:56 AM by Scott H&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #42 from Joe Crow</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Um, are you describing Hamas or the Bush Administration? There seem to be an awful lot of similarities between the two when you put it that way.</i></p>

<p>Well, yeah. Hamas wants to be the Bush Administration when it grows up, and under stress, the Bush Administration (or any other, for that matter) turns back into Hamas. Or the Medillin Cartel. Nature of the Beast.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2006  1:00 AM by Joe Crow&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #43 from Keir</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>It simply doesn't make sense from a business point of view to provide hurricane insurance in an area where there's a significant chance of there being a hurricane. It's like selling flood insurance to people who live on ten-year floodplains. Now, sell flood insurance to people living on hundred-year floodplains and you're making money. Maybe you should move to Ohio. I hear the hurricane insurance rates there are very reasonable.</blockquote>

<p>The insurance companies aren't going to be keen on hurricane prone regions now, especially as global warming pushes on. (One big reason I believe in global warming? The insurance companies do.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2006  1:32 AM by Keir&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #44 from Faren Miller</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If hurricanes keep getting worse and Global Warming seems likely to raise sea levels enough for large areas of coastline to disappear, I guess the insurance companies have a point when they refuse to deal with coastal folks. Though I moved inland for other reasons, now it <i>almost</i> seems like the prudent thing to do. Still, any scenario of swamped port cities will presumably play out over decades, so New York and San Francisco aren't about to vanish like Atlantis (or many parishes in New Orleans) unless the Big One hits or the monster storms move way north.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2006 11:13 AM by Faren Miller&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #45 from Jon Meltzer</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the ultimate secure home: buried in the web text is the revealing sentence</p>

<p>"The house is currently being offered at only a fraction of the actual building costs ($875,400)"</p>

<p>And a true Heinlein fan would build a home in the shape of an unfolded tesseract, not one that looks like Bag End. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2006 11:25 AM by Jon Meltzer&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #46 from CHip</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Right has achieved its satori: the citizenry pays taxes, is told to expect no vital govt services in return, and the citizenry sighs and goes out to buy more candles.</i></p>

<p>That's one step short; satori is achieved when the citizenry, left in the dark, treats the trivial tax cuts it's given as manna deserving reelection, and doesn't question the monster tax cuts given the Right's rich patrons.</p>

<p>BTW, I think several people have been unfair to Hamas; Bush has never had a general reputation for less corruption than his opponents and doesn't have to deal with either a "police force" controlled by his mortal enemies or a massively more powerful occupying force. Comparing him to Medellin cartels, who are just in it for the money -- now \that/ is fair.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2006 12:18 PM by CHip&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, looking at that dome, and its supposed novel use of concrete, it reminds me very much of the nave of Durham cathedral.</p>

<p>Which is about 900 years old.</p>

<p>Of course, the architect probably had God on his side. But England is the place for big medieval buildings.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2006  1:21 PM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #48 from Magenta Griffith</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, thanks for the link. That is my dream house.</p>

<p>Jon, the text states over and over how much it was overbuilt, i.e. much more than standard specifications. I could probably build something like that in a rural area of Minnesota for a lot less if I wanted to, and had the money. It reminds me of the Canadian house in "Friday". </p>

<p>I like earth-sheltered houses.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2006  6:16 PM by Magenta Griffith&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #49 from Niall McAuley</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, that <a href="http://www.ultimatesecurehome.com/secure_home_amenities.htm" rel="nofollow">house</a>? The concrete, domed one?</p>

<p>If I was really in the market, for a house like that, the inappropriate use of commas in the ad would, put, me, off.</p>

<p>No, shit,!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2006  6:38 PM by Niall McAuley&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #50 from Marilee</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magenta, it has steps!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2006  8:34 PM by Marilee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #51 from Dave Bell</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I write, <i>Panorama</i> on BBC1 is broadcasting an account of how the Republican Party in the USA has systematically lied about global warming.</p>

<p>The BBC may be restricting access to UK internet users--they sometimes do for copyright reasons--but <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/homepage/int/pr/no/b1/t/clim_chaos8panorama/-/news/1/hi/programmes/panorama/default.stm" rel="nofollow">try this link for streaming video</a>.<br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  4, 2006  5:32 PM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hurricane Season -- comment #52 from Stefan Jones</title>
         <description>comment from Stefan Jones on  4.Jun.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore's interview on ABC's Sunday morning news show:</p>

<p>http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2037865</p>

<p>Warning: Begins with a commercial.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  4, 2006  8:11 PM by Stefan Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
         <link>http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/007603.html#129259</link>
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         <pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 20:11:05 -0500</pubDate>
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