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      <description>Remembering who the American Legion are, and what they come from: Digby, Jonathan Schwarz, and Rick Perlstein. Perlstein bonus: a...</description>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #1 from Andrew</title>
         <description>comment from Andrew on 16.May.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You'd think people would remember the AL's appearance in Grapes of Wrath.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 16, 2007 12:05 AM by Andrew&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #2 from Josh</title>
         <description>comment from Josh on 16.May.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for relapsing into old drive-by correction habits, but I hope, being PNH, you'll understand the compulsion:</p>

<p>Perlstein.</p>

<p>Now back to policing the web for "Delaney"s.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 16, 2007 12:45 AM by Josh&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #3 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</title>
         <description>comment from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) on 16.May.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American Legion has conveniently forgotten all the lovely "support" given to the troops by their very own government, not only in this war, but in all others past.  The support by the military medical facilities, the support by the Veterans' Administration*, the support of prisoners of war, etc. ad nauseum.  Or maybe it's not amnesia but apology.</p>

<p>The point about the Grapes of Wrath goes a little deeper.  When that was written, it was only a few years since the US Army had fired on and killed US Army veterans in Washington.  But that was in another century and, besides, the troops are dead.  And we are condemned to relive our history.</p>

<p></p>

<p>* The agency that controls veterans, not so?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 16, 2007  1:51 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #4 from FS</title>
         <description>comment from FS on 16.May.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>a reminder of why many good people couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Hubert in ‘68.</em></p>

<p>Yes, and what a monumental case of cutting off your nose to spite your face that was.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 16, 2007 10:22 AM by FS&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #5 from cathy</title>
         <description>comment from cathy on 16.May.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another happy thought about the past history of the American Legion - they were one of the groups that actively lobbied congress and helped kill a bill that would have created a U.S. version of the kindertransport.  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 16, 2007 10:49 AM by cathy&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #6 from albatross</title>
         <description>comment from albatross on 16.May.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's entertaining seeing the rhetoric about "supporting the president in time of war" turned around on them.  This is just so common in politics--the grandly-stated principle of today is contradicted tomorrow when it's expedient to do so, and nobody much blinks.  Remember when the Clinton administration was in power, and it was Democratic mouthpieces giving us the line about supporting the president, the broad powers of the presidency, etc.? And the Republicans worried about too much power concentrated in the White House, wars with little popular support and no real US interest at stake, etc?  </p>

<p>Perhaps with the web and the blogosphere, we can end up with a bit more institutional memory.  (It's not like nobody in the media remembers last year's rhetoric or lies, though--they just don't mention them.)  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 16, 2007 12:08 PM by albatross&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #7 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 16.May.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'Politicise' always seems to mean 'use for your political advantage and my disadvantage'.</p>

<p>Or, since this is so obviously an <a href="http://breathspakids.blogspot.com/2007/04/drugs-demagogues-and-irregular-verb.html" rel="nofollow"> irregular verb</a>:</p>

<p>I use for patriotic purposes.<br />
You politicise.<br />
S/he commits treason.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 16, 2007  1:28 PM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #8 from Henry</title>
         <description>comment from Henry on 16.May.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're not alone on Pearlstein/Perlstein; see also <a href="http://professorkim.blogspot.com/2004/06/rick-perlstein-sy-hersh-and-those.html" rel="nofollow">BdL</a>. There's lots, <em>lots</em> more juicy stuff about Humphrey (and esp. his relationship with LBJ) in Perlstein's <em>Nixonland</em>, forthcoming next year.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 16, 2007  6:56 PM by Henry&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #9 from bad Jim</title>
         <description>comment from bad Jim on 17.May.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever anyone trots out the old line, "Why do you care about illegal surveillance if you aren't doing anything wrong?", it's handy to be able to point out that they continually and emphatically equate dissent with treason.</p>

<p>First they came for the amphibians...<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 17, 2007  3:48 AM by bad Jim&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #10 from aaa</title>
         <description>comment from aaa on 19.May.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former chief UN weapons inspector <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter" rel="nofollow">Scott Ritter</a> has also recently written about the American Legion <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20070510_the_good_american/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May 19, 2007  2:35 PM by aaa&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Not just an alternate version of the VFW -- comment #11 from Dan MacQueen</title>
         <description>comment from Dan MacQueen on  3.Jun.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This entry was just reposted on the livejournal feed: I don't know if that's due to a technical problem on your end or livejournal's, though.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted June  3, 2007  8:44 PM by Dan MacQueen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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