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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #1 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 26.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you're the dog under the table, and the table is a mountain, you're bound to have a tough time.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008  9:51 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #2 from Chris W.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, Teresa, so Clinton is under the table and sick as a dog . . . This gives me an idea for a new way of choosing the President. </p>

<p>Election by drinking games!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 10:02 PM by Chris W.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #3 from Avram</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it's a mesa...? </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 10:03 PM by Avram&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #4 from ethan</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Obviously she is now <strike>someone who is</strike> the underdog</em>...</p>

<p>OK. God, that was bugging me. Carry on.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 10:05 PM by ethan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #5 from Lance Weber</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avram @3: Like Jar-Jar Binks?<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 10:10 PM by Lance Weber&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #6 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep thinking of <a href="http://imdb.com/title/tt0467110/" rel="nofollow">Underdog.</a>  Of COURSE he runs the table&mdash;he's a superhero!  And he doesn't have to climb the mountain&mdash;he can fly to the top!</p>

<p>If Hillary is the Underdog, she HAS to win!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 10:22 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #7 from Jonah</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris @2 wrote:<blockquote>This gives me an idea for a new way of choosing the President.<br /><br />Election by drinking games!</blockquote>Actually, that's how the secret cabal who actually runs the world chose GWB.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 10:25 PM by Jonah&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #8 from aphrael</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apropos of nothing, the vote I cast for Leon Panetta in 1992, when I'd just moved into his Congressional district, is one of the few votes I've ever cast <em>for</em> someone (as opposed to voting against someone's opponent).</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 10:32 PM by aphrael&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #9 from Paula Helm Murray</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it makes my head spin, STOP IT!</p>

<p>Or I'll be the dog barfing under the table.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 10:51 PM by Paula Helm Murray&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #10 from Avram</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climbing mountains, running tables! <br />
Rolling dice and telling fables! <br />
Underdog! Underdog! </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 10:55 PM by Avram&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #11 from Joel Polowin</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas, Underdog's Super Energy Vitamin Pills lost their FDA certification, thanks to consumer-protection action by you-know-who.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 11:14 PM by Joel Polowin&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #12 from Adrian Smith</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean that Bill is now the Big Underdog?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 11:23 PM by Adrian Smith&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #13 from Gursky</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interviewer should have stopped the tape and walked away right there.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 26, 2008 11:50 PM by Gursky&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #14 from Bruce Arthurs</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon Panetta channels Donald Rumsfeld.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008 12:19 AM by Bruce Arthurs&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #15 from Terry Karney</title>
         <description>comment from Terry Karney on 27.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She's the dog under Table Mountain, and she's running to somewhere?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  2:12 AM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #16 from elise</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Le sous-chien est sous la table.  Et le singe... merde!  Le singe est dans la Maison Blanc!</p>

<p>Or something like that. Sorry, having an Eddie Izzard moment there.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  2:46 AM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #17 from David Goldfarb</title>
         <description>comment from David Goldfarb on 27.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself irresistably reminded of a quote from earlier in the current season of <em>Smallville</em>.  In the previous season, Lana Lang got out of her marriage to Lex Luthor by framing him for her murder.  Now he's out of prison and tracked her down; upon their meeting, she says to him:</p>

<p>"When I heard you'd freed yourself, I put out the breadcrumbs and waited for the wolf to come knocking."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  3:24 AM by David Goldfarb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #18 from Dave Bell</title>
         <description>comment from Dave Bell on 27.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ain't nothin' but a hound dog <br />
Cryin' all the time. <br />
You ain't nothin' but a hound dog <br />
Cryin' all the time. <br />
Well, you ain't never caught a rabbit <br />
And you ain't no friend of mine.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  3:46 AM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #19 from Scott</title>
         <description>comment from Scott on 27.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See also, how to identify the death of a metaphor... When it's liberally mixed with other mixed metaphors.  Underdog is no longer about fighting dogs, climbing mountains is no longer about... climbing, or mountains.  The one I'm surprised about is "run the table"  The first time I read it, I automatically edited in the far more dead metaphor "turn the table".</p>

<p>Gursky @13:<br />
If the interviewer was aware of how bad a jumble is, and cared, they would have paraphrased him in the final article.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  4:32 AM by Scott&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #20 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on 27.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am irresistibly reminded of one of Clive James' British television criticism pieces from the 1970's*.</p>

<blockquote> The essence of a cliché is that words are not misused, but have gone dead. To describe a wet cat as a drowned rat is to use language from which all life has departed, leaving mechanical lips and a vacant stare.</blockquote>

<p>-----<br />
* available <a href="http://www.clivejames.com/node/437" rel="nofollow">online</a>, since the book is out of print...I like!  James' writing is pithy and gifted enough to outlast the shows he criticised; it deserves to outlast the publication history of his books.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  5:38 AM by abi&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #21 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 27.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am now trying to figure out how a dead dog under Table Mountain may or may not be marching to Pretoria.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  6:47 AM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #22 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 27.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce Arthurs #14: It seems that Panetta was channelling <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A673607" rel="nofollow">Sir Boyle Roche</a>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  7:25 AM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #23 from Epacris</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I can't bear it any longer.  I'll throw my jackboot into the melting pot and ask what the heck "run the table" is supposed to refer to?  Something to do with gambling?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:22 AM by Epacris&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #24 from elise</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pool, Epacris. To run the table is to sink all the balls without missing a shot, thereby depriving one's opponent of any chance at all in the game.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:27 AM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #25 from fidelio</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running the table comes from billiards/pool--it means that you manage to sink every ball on the table in order, without a miss or a scratch, so that your opponent never gets a chance to shoot, and you win that round.</p>

<p>I'm now pondering the extent to which sportswriting and sports broadcasting are helping to destroy the English language. I'll be over in the corner, conducting a forensic investigation of dead, piteously-abused figures of speech.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:35 AM by fidelio&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #26 from bryan</title>
         <description>comment from bryan on 27.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAH HAH, I just happen to have a really bad poem for just such an occasion (the occasion to torture you with a bad poem):</p>

THE FASCIST OCTOPUS HAS SUNG ITS SWAN SONG
<p>

<p><br />
In each Generation of Regimes</p>

<p>One gains prominence, reigns by the fist</p>

<p>stoked thru a febrile Onanist's</p>

<p>Millenial Dreams:</p>

<p>Half Beast, Half Fowl,</p>

<p>Half Man, Half Monster</p>

<p>consuming its middle</p>

<p>Four Halves, disemvoweled.<br />
</p><p></p>

<p><br />
From some swamp rock</p>

<p>surveils its own image</p>

<p>then morosely crows the dark</p>

<p>like a backwards cock;</p>

<p>"More reason now there is than temper,</p>

<p>More mind than there is muscle;</p>

<p>I decrease unto a purple ember</p>

<p>More mass than master now must bustle."<br />
</p></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:38 AM by bryan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #27 from abi</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah.  Thanks, elise.</p>

<p>I was thinking database processing; would she reindex some Platonic ideal table of the population of voters in some fashion that would prevent Obama from accessing anyone?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:46 AM by abi&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #28 from ajay</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With reference to running the table: so basically this passage mixes two incompatible dead metaphors (underdog/mountain to climb) with a third incomprehensible one. <br />
Is it worse to use cliche'd metaphors or ones so new or obscure that people can't understand them? This seems to be worst with sports metaphors. George Allen, for example, <a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1422-2005Feb5.html' rel="nofollow">spoke entirely in football metaphors.</a> Had he become president, every other nation on the planet would have been unable to understand a word he was saying. </p>

<p>Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:51 AM by ajay&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #29 from touchstone</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is where we mourn the death of language, right? I mean, if he really cared at all about his craft, surely he could have worked one more reference in there somewhere? Stopping at three seems so slap-dash.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:13 AM by touchstone&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #30 from albatross</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abi #27: No, that won't happen till little Bobby Tables is old enough to run for office....</p>

<p>Xopher #6: Then is Obama Overcat?  </p>

<p>Jonah #7: Chose, hell, he won that drinking game fair and square.  And people think his misspent youth was wasted.... </p>

<p>...</p>

<p>Hillary's campaign manager came out to speak to me, tail between her legs, looking like a dog that had been kicked once too often.  She whimpered about Obama's biting remarks toward her candidate, to whom she remained (of course) fiercely loyal.  When I brought up Obama's latest ads, she bared her teeth, and growled that he'd get his in the next debate.  When I asked about the impending campaign against McCain, she pointed out that he was far too old to learn any new tricks, but was quick to add that Obama was a mere puppy, despite leading the pack at present.  After the hard questions, I tried to throw her a bone, asking how ex-President Clinton was doing, but she just muttered something about him being an old dog sniffing after some young bitch, and looked at me with sad eyes.  As the interview concluded, and I walked back to my car, I thought I could hear a forlorn howl from the office.  </p>

<p>I dunno.  Maybe leaving the mixed metaphors in was an improvement....</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:35 AM by albatross&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #31 from Lance Weber</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There's actually a humane society in town named <a href="http://www.tablemountainanimals.org/" rel="nofollow">Table Mountain Animal Shelter</a></p>

<p>Abi @27: Hmm, maybe "running the tables" _has_ been co-opted like that - thanks to Diebold!<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:43 AM by Lance Weber&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #32 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Announcer: "And now, another thrilling episode in the ongoing soap opera, As the Cookie Crumbles, so Falls the Cradle".</p>

<p>Rupert Murdoch: And with the death of metaphors, the fat lady sings for the demise of journalism.  The fog of war will cloud men's minds, and the dogs of war will be under the table with the empty bottles of mercy.  Truly is the sweet smell of success ripped untimely from the taste of ashes, and the candidate becomes the burnt toast of the town.</p>

<p>GWB: Mission Accomplished!<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:53 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>albatross @ 30</b></p>

<p>McCain may be too old to learn new tricks, but I think his pandering in the last few months has proved that he can still turn them.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:56 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #34 from bryan</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"There's actually a humane society in town named Table Mountain Animal Shelter"</p>

<p>I read that as there's actually a human society in a town named Table Mountain Animal Shelter. </p>

<p>One Line Sci Fi story:</p>

<p>Title: Notable Sign on entering town of Table Mountain Animal Shelter</p>

<p>"Warning to Man - don't let the sun set on you in this town."</p>

<p></p>

<p>I like stories where the title is longer than the story. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:57 AM by bryan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #35 from mayakda</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose an swan song from an octopus would actually be chromatic, since they can change color to communicate, right? Unless they decide to use black ink, instead.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008 10:24 AM by mayakda&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #36 from Wakboth</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avram @3: "Maybe it's a mesa...?"</p>

<p>That was a joke, ha ha. Fat chance!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008 12:32 PM by Wakboth&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #37 from elise</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Running the table" is an obscure reference?</p>

<p>I am reminded again how far I am from my blue-collar roots. </p>

<p>(Dang. Now I want a White Castle. Or mac-and-cheese from that cafeteria.  The only thing in the house is tinned salmon, some sundried tomato and chopped garlic, and some Trader Joe's pesto, though. This upward mobility stuff is confusing. But tasty, in its way.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008 12:50 PM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, pool isn't sports. Pool is POOL.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008 12:51 PM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #39 from rea</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary simply needs to take up arms against this sea of troubles . . .</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008 12:55 PM by rea&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #40 from Dave Bell</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely in US politics one needs to take up alms. And every cent that's offered, at that.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  1:29 PM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #41 from Ulrika</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panetta is obviously just a fan of <a href="http://www.willitblend.com/" rel="nofollow">Will It Blend?</a>.  Osterize that metaphor.</p>

<p>I'm a bit skeptical on the Hillary-as-Underdog thing, though.  As we know, Underdog is Humble and Lovable.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  1:40 PM by Ulrika&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #42 from Ulrika O&apos;Brien</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>...and that starts with P and that rhymes with T, and that stands for Tool!</p>

<p>But if poker can be broadcast on Sports networks, then surely pool is at least as athletic?  Not to mention golf.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  1:45 PM by Ulrika O&apos;Brien&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #43 from aaron</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"George Allen, for example, spoke entirely in football metaphors. Had he become president, every other nation on the planet would have been unable to understand a word he was saying."</p>

<p>A president named George who has a questionable relationship with the English language?  That seems familiar somehow.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  1:47 PM by aaron&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #44 from Clifton Royston</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All together, let's sing along!</p>

<p>I left my dogggg on Table Mountain,<br />
High on a hill he howls at me.<br />
I left my left at Albuquerque -<br />
I left my keys in Kankakee.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  2:12 PM by Clifton Royston&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #45 from Lance Weber</title>
         <description>comment from Lance Weber on 27.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elise #37: Add the salmon, garlic, sundried tomatos, breadcrumbs and an egg to a bowl. Mix well, form into patties and fry. Top with pesto and serve.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  2:22 PM by Lance Weber&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #46 from Jon H</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ajay @28: " George Allen, for example, spoke entirely in football metaphors."</p>

<p>Luckily, this is not true. He tossed in that one French racial slur.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  2:33 PM by Jon H&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #47 from elise</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance @45: good idea, but I already sauteed the salmon and garlic with sundried tomatoes, stirred the pesto in at the last moment, and piled the whole thing onto toasted English muffins. Nom nom nom.  Next time, patties, maybe.</p>

<p>Ulrika @42: Ah, but poker is not sports either. Poker is cards.  Two of the great pleasures in life: playing cards, and shooting pool. (Or shooting stick, as Feldman used to say.) Neither are sports in my definition, as that implies a level of effort wholly at odds with relaxing. Besides, anything you can drink a beer while doing and set the beer down within arm's reach isn't a sport, to me. (There's probably an exception to this, but I cannot think of it right now.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  2:41 PM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #48 from fidelio</title>
         <description>comment from fidelio on 27.Feb.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elise, Lance is right--since you can't produce the can of cream of whatever soup for the sauce, you're stuck with the pesto. Otherwise, you could pull that off the Friday menu of any meat-and-three here in Nashville.</p>

<p>Alas, pool references are obscure these days. It's ashame, really, because understanding how English* works (in pool and billiards, anyway) is a lesson that transfers to a lot of other important things. We need more pool halls--for the kids' sake! Think of the valuable life lessons they could learn.</p>

<p>Also, ESPN regularly shows tournaments on television--usually 9-ball. That may not make pool or billiards into a sport--I prefer to think of it as a meditative activity that allows you to drink beer while you're performing it.</p>

<p>I do, however, stand by my earlier position on the effect of sportswriters and sports broadcasters (especially the play-by-play guys) of the rapid conversion of metaphors (and other figures of speech) to not just nonsense but errant nonsense. If you thought Pat Summerall was bad, try fifteen minutes of Chris Berman. I dare you. </p>

<p><br />
*Not the language.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  2:47 PM by fidelio&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #49 from Malthus</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fidelio@48: Nonsense is usually errant by definition. I think you mean arrant nonsense. (A word that is rarely applied outside of two contexts:  nonsense and knavery. There have been plenty of sportscasters who've practiced both.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  5:43 PM by Malthus&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #50 from Lee</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elise, #47: <i>...anything you can drink a beer while doing and set the beer down within arm's reach isn't a sport</i></p>

<p>Oh, I <i>like</i> that! IMO, it's as good a short definition of the difference between "sport" and "game" as one is likely to see. (Which is to say that some sports are games, but not all games are sports.)<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  6:10 PM by Lee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #51 from ethan</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, when I was on the gay softball team in college, we always played holding beers. Although I guess that wasn't really a sport, either.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  6:27 PM by ethan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ethan 51: In fact, if it was like gay softball teams I've seen before, it strains even the definition of 'game'.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  6:33 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xopher #52: You should've seen our "games" against the Radio Station Hipsters. "The Homos vs. The Pomos".</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  7:17 PM by ethan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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<p>Shame that was a non-commercial station: if it were commercial the airtime sales guys could have gotten up a team called the Promos.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:05 PM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #55 from Lance Weber</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guys from Pimp My Ride: The Chromos</p>

<p>(stretch) Butterfly Collectors: The Entomos</p>

<p><br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:21 PM by Lance Weber&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #56 from Lance Weber</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohh ohh! I have a Challenge!</p>

<p><b>If the community at Making Light fielded a softball team, what would it be named?</b></p>

<p>PS. This probably belongs in an Open Thread but I'm lazy and this thread was already open in my browser :)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:28 PM by Lance Weber&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #57 from Ginger</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance @56:</p>

<p>The Photons.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:41 PM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either the Illuminaughti or the GloMos, I think.  (For "glow more," probably.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  8:42 PM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #59 from HP</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PICARD: I am Jean-Luc Picard, of the Starship Enterprise. We come to establish peaceful communications with your people.</p>

<p>AMBASSADOR JORJAL'AN: Thorpe with the Hail Mary. First and ten. Go long.</p>

<p>PICARD: I represent the United Federation of Planets. Our goals are peace and cooperation, so that we might learn from one another, and increase our mutual security.</p>

<p>JORJAL'AN: Thorpe with the Hail Mary! Heisman fumbles! Loss of down! Loss of down!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:00 PM by HP&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ethan, Xopher @51, 52: That's because your gay softball teams had no lesbians on them. Lesbians know the truth: softball is life*. Win it or die. </p>

<p>;-)</p>

<p><br />
*Except for the women's baseball team. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:07 PM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger, some womyn I used to know had a habit of dividing womyn they knew into three categories (whether or not they actually fit):</p>

<p>softball lesbians<br />
golf lesbians <br />
book lesbians</p>

<p>Not sure it really did anything useful for them, but it seemed to amuse the heck out of them.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:21 PM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger #60: Well, my team <em>did</em> tend to win, when we kept score, largely because of the Law Of Nature which states, first, that in any group of hipsters there will be at least a few skinny little twigs of people, and second, that in any group of gay men there will be at least one person who works out way, way, way too much. We had one guy who reliably hit it out of the park, no matter how poorly it was pitched.</p>

<p>elise #61: "book lesbians" reminded me of <a href="http://www.thunderant.com/?p=18" rel="nofollow">this bizarre little sketch</a> about a feminist book store, by Thunderant, who are, of all people, Fred Armisen (from SNL) and Carrie Brownstein (formerly of Sleater-Kinney, the best goddamn band in the history of bands).</p>

<p>And by the way, who gets the "thread hijacker" trophy this time? There seem to be a whole lot of contenders...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:35 PM by ethan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elise@61: I like those categories. Of course, you know I'm sitting here thinking of all the womyn/wimmyn/womon I've known, and which category I'd put each one into. </p>

<p>And whether I need more categories. </p>

<p>ethan @ 62: Did your team -- like mine -- have at least one Drama Queen? ;-)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 27, 2008  9:57 PM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #64 from Pocketeer</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Patrick, I had not heard of that twisted metaphor until your title compelled me to Google my ignorance away.</p>

<p>I shouldn't be surprised, but someone actually has taken a crack at imagining the <a href="http://www.informarn.nl/informes/orginternacionales/act020726_rusiaomc.html" rel="nofollow">Fascist Octopus</a> metaphor. No jackboots or Swan-singing, however.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008  1:58 AM by Pocketeer&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #65 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ginger @ 63</b></p>

<p>elise' list reminded me of the years I spent working for Nike, where I did meet a lot of golf lesbians.  Nike did point out the need for at least one more category, though: geek lesbians, who were well represented in the IT department.</p>

<p>There weren't many hipsters, though; everybody there worked out.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008  2:20 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Lance @ 56</b></p>

<p>The Lucifers, of course.  Although, if we could get Phil Folgio to coach, the Sparks would be good.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008  2:29 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ethan @62:  AIIIIIEEEE!  I used to work at Madwimmin Books, er, I mean Amazonfembooks.com, er, I mean, Amazon Bookstore, and you just caused some very serious flashbackiness there.  Hee hee hee! (And yes, for those that recognize the pseudonym there, Alison Bechdel used to troll the aisles for dialogue. Also, a true-life situation from work once wound up in Omaha the Cat Dancer after I told Kate Worley about it; it was the bit where the books on disabilities were shelved too high for customers in wheelchairs to reach.)</p>

<p>Dear me. I'm going to have weird dreams tonight, I just know it, of discussing whether or not round tarot decks are antipatriarchal or not.</p>

<p>Ginger @63: More categories are always fun. Any category that can't be subdivided is suspect, yah?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008  2:32 AM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce @65: Golf lesbians frighten me. On the other hand, geek lesbians are of the goodness. (And somewhere I have a t-shirt reading "click and drag queen.")</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008  2:33 AM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#59, also, is of the goodness.</p>

<p><i>You should've seen our "games" against the Radio Station Hipsters. "The Homos vs. The Pomos".</i></p>

<p>The only game where one entire team is out before the first ball.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008  7:18 AM by ajay&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce@ 65: Ah, yes, the geek lesbians. I have one right next door to me. I'm not geeky enough for that category, so I'll have to add the new category of "nerd lesbian", unless (of course) that's what the "book lesbian" refers to. I'm sure there's some overlap between groups. </p>

<p>elise@ 67: Infinite subdivision in infinite diversity, eh? There's an awesome power in the cmmunity's ability to find yet another group worthy of support, and debate. And "processing".</p>

<p>Speaking of worthwhile t-shirts (and I admire yours); I have one of the two political t-shirts that I liked: "Lick Bush in '92" (missed the '88 one).  </p>

<p>ajay @ 69: I wish I'd thought of that. ;-)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008  8:40 AM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #71 from Carrie S.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Oh, I like that! IMO, it's as good a short definition of the difference between "sport" and "game" as one is likely to see. (Which is to say that some sports are games, but not all games are sports.)</em></p>

<p>Personally I've always thought that the distinction between "sport" and "game" was that sports require some physical skill on the part of the player(s).  Hence, tiddlywinks, jacks and pool are sports, but poker, roleplaying games and chess are not.</p>

<p>This could just be so that I can claim to have been good at a sport--specifically, jacks.  I totally rocked at jacks.</p>

<p>Also, does the beer definition exclude target shooting (of any variety, with or without gunpowder) as a sport?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008  9:04 AM by Carrie S.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #72 from John Houghton</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That quote really hits the nail on the thumb.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008 10:28 AM by John Houghton&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #73 from Dan Layman-Kennedy</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the touchstones I've always used as a compass is that a well-mixed metaphor should be a dish that speaks for itself.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008 11:13 AM by Dan Layman-Kennedy&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>71:<i> Also, does the beer definition exclude target shooting (of any variety, with or without gunpowder) as a sport?</i></p>

<p>Good grief, I certainly hope so. (Mem.: never go on the pistol range with Carrie S.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008 11:45 AM by ajay&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #75 from JESR</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ethan, thanks for that; I believe that bookstore is up in the Multnomah District but Fred Armison's character is taken from the life, I'd bet, since she looks just like one of the owners of a bookstore in Oly.</p>

<p>The flyers! Oh, the flyers!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008 11:53 AM by JESR&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #76 from Dave Bell</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are varuious definitions in the UK which seem to be based on the idea that a "sport" is something for gentlemen, while everyone else plays games.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008 11:53 AM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #77 from Stephen</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: 56</p>

<p>The Photon Thread Torpedoes.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008 12:08 PM by Stephen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #78 from Terry Karney</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If physical skill is required, then shooting sports are sports (and that includes darts).</p>

<p>I do, however, think, as a matter of practical consideration, that those shooting sports where casual mishap can lead to people being killed, shouldn't have beer at arm's reach.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008 12:15 PM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #79 from Terry Karney</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ajay:  there is (from a practical standpoint) an advantage to playing with weapons while blissed out on one's pharmaceuticals of recreational choice, esp. if one has them ready to hand all the time.</p>

<p>Someday you may need to use them when, more or less, impaired.  </p>

<p>This doesn't mean I think one should go to the range and drink.  It means I think one should practice all but the powder-burning aspects.</p>

<p>I also handle knives when I'm drinking (usually while cooking).</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008 12:21 PM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #80 from LMB MacAlister</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last, a thread that barks up a tree after my own heart.  </p>

<p><b>bryan</b> @ #26: <blockquote>From some swamp rock . . . </blockquote>  I believe the first practitioner of swamp rock was Tony Joe White.</p>

<p><b>elise</b> @ #37:  I went back to my blue-collar roots, and have never missed the Big City.  But surely Tinned Salmon is an item of décor, not for the tummy.</p>

<p><b>Lance</b> @ #45:  I tried your recipe, with some excitement, but discovered the bowl chunks <i>just won't</i> make into patties.  And it's altogether indigestible.  Not to mention the damage to my teeth!  Have you any suggestions on how to tenderize the bowl?</p>

<p><b>elise</b>, again, @ #68:  I'm familiar with golf lesbians.  Here, in the home of Texas Wymyn's University, we also have Peterbilt lesbians, a/k/a Mechanical Engineers with Attitude.  Two other categories I'd suggest are Law Enforcement Lesbians (which probably include the military), and Art Lesbians (which include my step-daughter, who's married to a LEL).</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008  9:40 PM by LMB MacAlister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMB McAlister @ 80: <em>Law Enforcement Lesbians (which probably include the military)</em></p>

<p>Ah, I think this is a good category, although I'd suggest "Uniformed Lesbians" instead. My partner is not LE although she was in the military for a while. </p>

<p>There's nothing like a woman in uniform. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008  9:52 PM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #82 from Terry Karney</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger: Except for one out of, or half.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 28, 2008 11:48 PM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #83 from Charlie Stross</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly people!</p>

<p>There is a <b>VERY SIMPLE</b> explanation:</p>

<p>Panetta has finally outed the Clintons as ... werewolves!</p>

<p>&lt;national-review style="vicious innuendo"&gt;</p>

<p>Consider the facts: </p>

<p>* We tried to bribe them with a silver dollar <em>but they refused to touch it!</em></p>

<p>* Pork belly futures, as any rancher knows, are what wolves dream of.</p>

<p>* Bill has <em>publicly admitted</em> to being "the big dog".</p>

<p>* Have you ever seen the Clintons on a full moon? It's not pretty!</p>

<p>&lt;/national-review&gt;<br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 29, 2008  8:06 AM by Charlie Stross&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>LMB MacAlister @ 80</b></p>

<p><i>we also have Peterbilt lesbians, a/k/a Mechanical Engineers with Attitude.</i></p>

<p>Are they anything like Brick Outhouse-Built Lesbians?<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 29, 2008  9:33 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry @ 82: Mm. Mmm-mmm!</p>

<p>::wanders off in a happy daze::<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 29, 2008  9:39 AM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Terry @ 82</b></p>

<p>It's all the same: if you're only wearing half the uniform your are officially Out Of Uniform.  So which you prefer is a matter of taste.*</p>

<p>* Though if I were really crude I could point out that standing orders do require male enlisted personnel to salute.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 29, 2008 10:30 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You aren't out of uniform if you are dressed appropriately for the sport or recreational activity in which you are participating.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 29, 2008 12:05 PM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce:  If there's enough rank difference to require saluting, one is <i>decidedly</i> fraternizing.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 29, 2008  7:19 PM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But was the singing octopus going down for the third time, or just dancing on Buckley's grave while the wolves close in?</p>

<p>I imagine eight tentacles crushing the life out of a dictionary... forever.  ;-)<br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 29, 2008  8:20 PM by David Harmon&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger @81:  Uniformed Lesbians, yup.  There are some firefighters that ...  pardon me, I'm getting perilously close to quoting a character from Firefly.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 29, 2008 11:24 PM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>And Then, The Fascist Octopus Sang Its Swan Song -- comment #91 from Earl Cooley III</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, The Onion is on top of the situation: <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/idiom_shortage_leaves_nation_all" rel="nofollow">Idiom Shortage Leaves Nation All Sewed Up In Horse Pies</a></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  1, 2008  4:09 AM by Earl Cooley III&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elise @ 90: I had the firefighter calendar once..I'll be in my bunk too. </p>

<p><br />
(I was actually a firefighter in my yout'. I followed my parental footsteps into the town's volunteer FD. They both still fight fires and march in the parades.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  1, 2008  9:20 AM by Ginger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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