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      <description>Matthew Yglesias: The bad thing about bloggers writing books is that we torment you with nagging about the need to...</description>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #1 from Alex Cohen</title>
         <description>comment from Alex Cohen on 11.Apr.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm guessing that Patrick posted this because he finds it<br />
ridiculous. (Happy to be corrected, of course, in which I'd really like<br />
to hear the extended-dance-mix version of Patrick's opinion.) But I<br />
think there's something to it, although perhaps not what Yglesias meant.</p>

<p>When I buy a book by a favorite blogger, I am more aware than<br />
otherwise that by doing so I'm supporting their lifestyle, which<br />
includes creating free content and putting it on their blog. I consider<br />
this a fair trade.</p>

<p>When I did strategy consulting, I'd call this a mismatch between<br />
value creation and value capture. I'm not exactly paying for the thing<br />
I like best, and the author isn't exactly charging for the thing that<br />
makes them famous, but it seems to work out.</p>

<p>Of course, if MY had said "by buying the book, you're subsidizing my<br />
blog" it wouldn't have sounded quite as interesting. Or ridiculous.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  2:54 PM by Alex Cohen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #2 from Serge</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't remember being tormented by Our Moderators into buying their books. I feel left out. Sniff...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  2:57 PM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #3 from Terry Karney</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?  I buy a book I have a book.  It has no links, no streaming video, no ads down the sidebar.</p>

<p>It's a book.  That a blogger wrote it matters only insofar as he manages to do what set out to do when he wrote it.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  2:58 PM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #4 from rm</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be fair to MY's self-deprecating sarcasm. He doesn't mean you will<br />
get an interactive new-media experience. Or he means that interactive<br />
new-media experiences are as ordinary as dirt. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  3:26 PM by rm&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #5 from DaveKuzminski</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are bloggers who I would equate with columnists of the old<br />
days. In both cases, if they're interesting enough, I'll buy their<br />
books. If not, I'm probably ignoring both their books and<br />
blogs/columns. So, as for them mentioning their books, I see no problem<br />
with it aside from the fact that it might grate slightly on some<br />
readers of the column/blog who get tired of seeing the same advertising<br />
message repeated.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  3:29 PM by DaveKuzminski&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #6 from Vardibidian</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn't the context ("Praise is always welcome -- send me an email --<br />
but I'll also take on your criticisms and disagreements if you're<br />
inclined to try to get a response.") a promise to actually interact<br />
with people? The snark (I thought) was about the marketing language<br />
applied to a perfectly ordinary correspondence, albeit in email.</p>

<p>Thanks,<br /><br />
-V.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  3:38 PM by Vardibidian&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #7 from Jeremy Preacher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've discovered several authors via blogs/livejournal (John Scalzi,<br />
Cherie Priest, our own Jim Macdonald) and I concur with Alex's comment<br />
that I'm more than usually aware of the connection between the book in<br />
my hands and the person - or people - behind it. In at least one case<br />
it's encouraged me to go to a bookstore and pay full price for a<br />
second/third novel, rather than picking it up used.</p>

<p>Not entirely sure if that's germane, but I certainly find it interesting.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  3:39 PM by Jeremy Preacher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #8 from Magenta Griffith</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've bought books by bloggers a couple of times. None of them have<br />
had ads streaming down the side, thank goodness, and links if any, were<br />
ones I've had to type in myself. Books by bloggers are more like a<br />
collection of newspaper or magazine columns than anything else.</p>

<p>On the other hand, books don't change, so that if a year later, the<br />
writer has totally changed their opinions, or wants to try to change<br />
what they said, they can't. The trouble with the modern reliance on<br />
blogs and radio "commentators" is that when they are proven wrong,<br />
wrong, wrong, they can go back and try to claim that they said<br />
something different. </p>

<p>You bet I prefer books. Down with info-tainment.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  3:44 PM by Magenta Griffith&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #9 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Patrick Nielsen Hayden on 11.Apr.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>"I'm guessing that Patrick posted this because he finds it ridiculous"</em></p>

<p>Uh, no, I found it <em>funny</em>.  Which is to say, partly ridiculous and partly true, which I daresay is how Matthew intended it.</p>

<p>We don't, in fact, know how all this new media is going to shake out<br />
in the long run, so we tell ourselves a lot of stories and (hopefully)<br />
adjust as "truth blows us an icy kiss." This is pretty much the<br />
definition of a situation in which it's good to have some idealism,<br />
some skepticism, and a sense of humor.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  3:53 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #10 from Richard Anderson</title>
         <description>comment from Richard Anderson on 11.Apr.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Books by bloggers are more like a collection of newspaper or magazine columns than anything else.</i></p>

<p>Except that each chapter is maybe a page long.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  3:59 PM by Richard Anderson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #11 from Linkmeister</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, young Yglesias (hey, three words in a row starting with "Y"!)<br />
has a fairly well-developed sense of humor; I'm pretty sure that<br />
paragraph was tongue-in-cheek. I grinned, anyway.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  4:05 PM by Linkmeister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #12 from OtterB</title>
         <description>comment from OtterB on 11.Apr.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vardibidian #6 This was the way I took it, too, that the post<br />
suggested an interest in interacting with readers and there was an<br />
ironic twist to calling that a "vast interactive new media experience."</p>

<p>So far the only book I bought that was basically a compilation of<br />
blog posts, I found way too "slight" in print. But I do find that my<br />
preference in author's blogs affects my fiction purchasing somewhat.<br />
The Venn diagram of "Liking the blog" and "Liking the fiction" is a<br />
pair of overlapping circles but with noticeable areas that don't<br />
intersect. I have favorites whose books I buy regardless, some of whom<br />
don't blog at all, and there are authors whose fiction I like but whose<br />
blogs are just "meh" to me. But there are authors whose blogs I like<br />
much more than their fiction. I can see that the fiction is, in some<br />
theoretically objective sense, good - often award-winning - but it's<br />
just not my cuppa tea. But I will sometimes lean toward buying one of<br />
their new books anyway, because of enjoying the blog.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  4:10 PM by OtterB&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #13 from rea</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if MY had said "by buying the book, you're subsidizing my blog" it wouldn't have sounded quite as interesting.</i></p>

<p>MY is <i>paid to blog</i> by the Atlantic Monthly, odd as the idea of being paid to blog may seem.</p>

<p>In context, the "vast interactive new-media experience" was posting comments on his blog about his book. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008  9:05 PM by rea&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #14 from Greg London</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, ever since I upgraded to Book2.0, I've been enjoying the vast interactive new-media experience.</p>

<p>Look! If I flip these pages really fast, the picture in the corner <i>moves</i>!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2008 11:11 PM by Greg London&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #15 from heresiarch</title>
         <description>comment from heresiarch on 12.Apr.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took Yglesias to mean that reading a book while reading a blog by the same person addressing the same subject <i>is</i> a kind of new media interaction. </p>

<p>Imagine an author writes a book on, say, the intensifying global<br />
conflicts over resource scarcities. The author also has a blog, mostly<br />
about the same subject. As new information emerges, the author comments<br />
on how this interrelates with the material and ideas in his book. You,<br />
as a reader, are invited to comment on the same material. That really<br />
is a new form of author/reader interaction, isn't it? If you haven't<br />
read the book, you'll be missing out on a lot of the conversation.</p>

<p>I haven't read his book, and I rarely read his blog, so I've no idea<br />
if this is actually the case. Still, it seems like it might be a new<br />
model--a hybrid between an ongoing book lecture and a constantly-update<br />
preface. It would be neat: I often close a book thinking to myself,<br />
jeez, I sure wish I could ask the author a few questions!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 12, 2008  1:35 AM by heresiarch&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #16 from Randolph Fritz</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Future</b> looks remarkably like the past, so far.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 12, 2008  1:42 AM by Randolph Fritz&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #17 from Soon Lee</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Greg London #14:</b></p>

<p>It also makes <a href="http://www.jasperfforde.com/upgrade/upgrade21.html" rel="nofollow">upgrades</a> a cinch provided one observes the usual caveats about compatibility.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 12, 2008  2:31 AM by Soon Lee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #18 from Marilee</title>
         <description>comment from Marilee on 12.Apr.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of bloggers selling books, Jo Walton wants to go to Denvention so is selling signed <i>Tooth and Claw</i> and other things <a href="http://papersky.livejournal.com/382687.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 12, 2008  3:08 AM by Marilee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #19 from Doug</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of vast, new multi-media experiences, how long before the<br />
first e-book with a short movie or slide show with voice-over or<br />
something similar as its "cover" treatment?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 12, 2008  9:43 AM by Doug&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #20 from Charlie Stross</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, it would have happened already if it was economically viable.<br />
Alas, unless you're going to settle for the author sitting in front of<br />
a webcam and saying "buy my book", the production cost of even a one<br />
minute trailer will probably exceed the gross sales value of the<br />
best-selling ebook ever.</p>

<p>TV production costs are measured in millions of dollars per hour (up<br />
to six to ten megabucks per hour of a top-grossing show; down to<br />
$1M/hour for soap opera). For a cheesy reality show, you can budget<br />
$0.2-0.5M/hour. For a shoestring machinima production, you can probably<br />
get it down to $0.1M/hour, or $2000 per minute. That's for something<br />
like a space battle filmed in Eve Online and maybe a couple of jump<br />
shots to actors animated in Sims 2 or some other entry level machinima<br />
package. If you want to do something creative, the budget exponentiates<br />
rapidly.</p>

<p>And ebooks don't sell well. Even Baen only shift a few thousand<br />
units per book -- roughly comparable to their hardcover runs -- and<br />
they've got a devoted regular audience and don't make any of the usual<br />
customer-hostile mistakes. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 13, 2008  9:35 AM by Charlie Stross&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #21 from Charles Dodgson</title>
         <description>comment from Charles Dodgson on 13.Apr.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as an existence proof, I don't think anyone broke the bank<br />
promoting Peter Watts's Blindsight, but it did have a net-based video<br />
promo <a href="http://www.rifters.com/blindsight/vampires.htm" rel="nofollow">scientific lecture on vampires</a><br />
which held my attention well enough. (Witness also the no-budget<br />
political videos that are now crowding YouTube, or the promo<br />
screencasts that are increasingly common for, e.g., MIT-licensed<br />
freebie Rails plugins... but I digress.)</p>

<p>More generally, a lot of what you're paying for with professional<br />
video production is knowledge of the tools, which don't have to be all<br />
that expensive by themselves (viz. the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Cut_Pro" rel="nofollow">credits list</a><br />
for Final Cut Pro, including Cold Mountain, which was an Oscar nominee<br />
for edting). But the cheap stuff isn't necessarily what expensive pros<br />
know how to use, and that can result in, well... incongruities. My<br />
favorite concerns The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra, a full-length fan<br />
tribute to '50s skiffy B-movies which was shot in video on the cheap,<br />
and then bleached to black and white. This involved set construction<br />
and location work, and still came in under $50,000. When the film got a<br />
studio distribution deal, the first thing the studio did was produce a<br />
quickie professional trailer --- for which they paid, as I recall,<br />
something like double the cost of the movie itself.</p>

<p>So, while video is a field in which the unwary can blow huge amounts<br />
of money very quickly, it seems to be possible these days to do<br />
interesting stuff on the cheap...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 13, 2008  2:31 PM by Charles Dodgson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #22 from Charlie Stross</title>
         <description>comment from Charlie Stross on 13.Apr.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It <em>is</em> possible to do video on the cheap -- but you've got<br />
to know what you're doing and do it yourself. If you don't, and don't<br />
have friends who do, you're SOL.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 13, 2008  3:38 PM by Charlie Stross&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #23 from Jesse</title>
         <description>comment from Jesse on 14.Apr.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogs are free. Only worthless books are. For any blogger it's a step up to get a real paying gig.</p>]]>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #24 from Kate</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #7</p>

<p>I don't recall how I first happened upon <b>Making</b> <b>Light</b>, but it has certainly acted as a gateway drug to several dead tree science fiction purchases.</p>

<p>1. read <b>Making</b> <b>Light</b> (a reward in and of itself)<br /><br />
2. read comment by John Scalzi, follow link to Whatever<br /><br />
3. read Whatever (another reward IAOI)<br /><br />
4. read, nay, devour, Scalzi's free online book Agent to the Stars (no<br />
donation, as I am out of US, sorry John. I promise to buy it in dead<br />
tree form when the TP comes out).<br /><br />
5. read ML (or Whatever) comment by Charles Stross.<br /><br />
6. buy Charles Stross books.<br /><br />
7. wait impatiently for Scalzi's book contract.<br /><br />
8. read Whatever comment by Justine Larbalestier. There is an<br />
additional element here in that I knew a Larbalestier in my childhood<br />
and the curiousity got me. Follow link to Justine's Blog.<br /><br />
9. on Justine's blog, note comments about her author husband, Scott Westerfeld (who also has a blog).<br /><br />
10. buy Scott Westerfeld books. <br /><br />
11. once Justine hits the trade paperback stage, buy Justine's books.<br /><br />
12. once John Scalzi hits the TP stage, buy his books.<br /><br />
13. Profit!!! (well enjoyment anyway)</p>

<p>I tried, when I was in NYC, to get a copy of Teresa's <b>Making</b> Book, but was unable to find a copy.</p>

<p><br /><br />
So I have, as a result of reading this blog, bought and read (mostly, still some in the queue) upwards of 16 books.</p>

<p><br /><br />
And that is not including the one's that were just mentioned here that I have also bought (Shaun Tan's Arrival comes to mind).</p>

<p></p>

<p>You people (ha!) are a dirty low down bunch of enablers.</p>]]>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #25 from ajay</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Doug, it would have happened already if it was economically<br />
viable. Alas, unless you're going to settle for the author sitting in<br />
front of a webcam and saying "buy my book", the production cost of even<br />
a one minute trailer will probably exceed the gross sales value of the<br />
best-selling ebook ever.</i></p>

<p>I think Charlie's being unduly pessimistic here. First, as noted,<br />
Peter Watts' books are heading in this direction - and machinima<br />
production costs and the cost per unit quality of web video more<br />
generally are only going to go down. </p>

<p>Second, he's thinking too narrowly. OK, I agree, a one-minute space<br />
battle is going to be pretty costly. But what about Matt's book and<br />
non-fiction generally? Say he's interviewed, I don't know, John Nagl<br />
for the book - why not video the interview and use parts of that for<br />
the trailer? </p>

<p>Third, why not have online trailers? Why not have a minute of<br />
William Gibson talking about his new book and narrating a tour of Tokyo<br />
or wherever it's set? Authors do chat shows already...</p>]]>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #26 from Charles Dodgson</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Blogs are free. Only worthless books are.</em></p>

<p>Hmmm... are you aware that you're calling Charlie's  Hugo-nominated <a href="http://www.accelerando.org/" rel="nofollow">Accelerando</a> worthless?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 14, 2008 10:45 AM by Charles Dodgson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #27 from Terry Karney</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ajay: Online trailers, perhaps. A video bundled with the book, not<br />
so much (as least for me). An interview would pall pretty quickly, and<br />
I already dislike places where I have to sit through the same promo to<br />
get to the new material. </p>

<p>I dislike games which have bits of "story" in them, mostly because<br />
they aren't that interesting, and once I've seen them they just take up<br />
time pushing the same (weak) "story" and acting at me.</p>

<p>They don't add value, they detract.  I suspect I would feel much the same with video added to my books.</p>]]>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #28 from Terry Karney</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the fact (and I wish it went on just a trifle longer) that<br />
the cop is suddenly worried about the camera being on, but didn't have<br />
the brains to try and remove it.</p>

<p>I sure as hell hope he gets grief for that.</p>

<p>Contempt of cop is always risky, because they as a group, are<br />
possessed both of immediate power (resisting an unlawful arrest is a<br />
crime), and, pretty much, are their own oversight authority.</p>

<p>Cheap video has changed that, somewhat, but as the cop abusing the<br />
kid in the first clip shows, they don't have the sense that they have<br />
to answer to anyone, and believe they have the right quash oversight by<br />
the people they are supposed to be serving.</p>

<p>I'm not one to use the,"I pay your salary" argument very often, but<br />
cops are one case where whom they serve is of paramount importance, the<br />
fact they are supposed to serve the public, and the ideals of the<br />
public they serve are (so we keep being told) against the sort of<br />
arbitary instantiations of powe as are shown here matters.</p>

<p>I wish the idiot had called the kids mother; and that she was savvy,<br />
because my mother would have handed him his lunch, at the precint, with<br />
a lawyer, and a copy of the tape.</p>

<p>All hail YouTube.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 14, 2008 12:41 PM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #29 from Leah Miller</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the cost of media, and the possibility of video integration into an ebook: </p>

<p>I'm of the generation where short, consumable multimedia is both<br />
cheap and easy to produce, and I have a huge appetite for 2-10 minute<br />
vignettes I can show to my friends when we're bored. If some writer had<br />
some keen web-available teaser, and it was of <a href="http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.html" rel="nofollow">Strongbad</a> or <a href="http://askaninja.com/" rel="nofollow">Ask a Ninja</a> or <a href="http://loadingreadyrun.com/" rel="nofollow">Loading Ready Run</a> quality... that would greatly enhance things for me, and attract me to that ebook pretty quickly. </p>

<p>Also, bear in mind that some of the communities likely to read online fiction or ebooks in the near <b>future</b> are likely to have the skillset to quickly and casually produce massive amounts of media with little to no money.</p>

<p>Example: I play in a small online RPG guild. There are something<br />
like... 60-70 people in it, all between the ages of 15 and 37 (average<br />
about 22). At least three have posted small 'joke' projects that<br />
required extensive video and/or audio editing just to entertain the<br />
other 60 people who read the guild website. These are not typically<br />
people who have huge disposable incomes, though they do all have a high<br />
end PC and a net connection. Also note that video quality/resolution<br />
doesn't have to be as high for 'net or e-stuff, which cuts the costs<br />
down significantly. </p>

<p>I originally planned on ending this post by referencing the successful free online work of fiction <a href="http://www.johndiesattheend.com/" rel="nofollow">John Dies at the End</a>, as an example of the kind of thing which has a fanbase that could <i>hypothetically</i><br />
create a cool video on the cheap. I didn't think I'd actually find a<br />
real answer when I got there. Let's review our current main argument: </p>

<p>"Speaking of vast, new multi-media experiences, how long before the<br />
first e-book with a short movie or slide show with voice-over or<br />
something similar as its "cover" treatment?"<br /><br />
"Doug, it would have happened already if it was economically viable."</p>

<p>Well... go to John Dies at the End. They've got a <b>trailer for their book</b><br />
on its 'cover' (the front page of the website) and up on youtube. The<br />
e-book is just the free text of the website, and the trailer is <i>technically</i><br />
for both the ebook and the print edition... but as far as the question<br />
of whether or not a slideshow-movie-trailer for an ebook is viable?</p>

<p>It <i>is</i> economically viable, and it <i>has</i> happened.</p>

<p>Take that, <b>future</b>! </p>]]>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #30 from Marilee</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Charles Dodgson</b>, #26, I read <i>Accelerando</i> via my Asimov's subscription.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 14, 2008 11:05 PM by Marilee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #31 from Soon Lee</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insert obligatory comment on writing becoming more and more a performing art.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 16, 2008  2:05 AM by Soon Lee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Future of Publishing, Part 5,271,009 -- comment #32 from Dave Bell</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On movie/video production, I would say that the basic tools are<br />
cheap enough that talent is the limiting factor. My ancient video<br />
camera will do web-quality video. I can edit, composite, and add CGI.<br />
Even pro-quality green-screen materials, of useful size, are comparable<br />
to a good-quality filter.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 17, 2008  9:17 AM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For self-promoting spam it is.</p>]]>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Spam from 58.187.161.115]</p>]]>
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