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      <description> --until I saw today's New York Daily News, I hadn't realized he wanted to invade Canada....</description>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #1 from paul</title>
         <description>comment from paul on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does John McCain hate America?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  5:02 PM by paul&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #2 from Earl Cooley III</title>
         <description>comment from Earl Cooley III on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the infamous Jesusland map, the United States of Canada is supposed to get the bulk of the blue states, so McCain's invaders will have a fight on their hands if they try anything (although Jesusland probably has more nuclear weapons, I suppose).</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  5:05 PM by Earl Cooley III&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #3 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One might ask better at what? Perhaps he wants to make sure that the US has better sprinters, in which case he plans to invade Jamaica.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  5:50 PM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #4 from dave hutchinson</title>
         <description>comment from dave hutchinson on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, he's obviously pointing towards England. (We're putting a fence up as I write.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  5:55 PM by dave hutchinson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #5 from Sarah</title>
         <description>comment from Sarah on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, sillies, it's a typo.  It should say "butter."  He's off to Ireland to pick up some Kerrygold.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  6:13 PM by Sarah&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #6 from Linkmeister</title>
         <description>comment from Linkmeister on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah @ #5, in these days of high gas prices, wouldn't it be cheaper to go to Wisconsin for butter?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  6:19 PM by Linkmeister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #7 from michiko</title>
         <description>comment from michiko on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He can certainly try and invade Canada, but it's not going to work.  I mean, remember 1776?  And 1812?  Third time's a charm is not guaranteed, you know...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  6:19 PM by michiko&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #8 from SeanH</title>
         <description>comment from SeanH on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah @5: Given Barack Obama's unfortunate comment regarding the section of US society often regarded as the Republican Party's natural base of support, perhaps it should be "Follow me to a bitter country"?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  6:44 PM by SeanH&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #9 from Summer Storms</title>
         <description>comment from Summer Storms on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would anyone up there mind if my family I invade Canada, in the event of another <strike>Republican win</strike> stolen election? It's only a small force: three cats, three adult humans, armed with a small library of books.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  6:44 PM by Summer Storms&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #10 from Summer Storms</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, make that "my family <b>and</b> I".</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  6:45 PM by Summer Storms&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #11 from Sajia Kabir</title>
         <description>comment from Sajia Kabir on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don't mind, Summer Storms, but you'll be facing the Conservatives here (at least until the coming federal election).</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  7:03 PM by Sajia Kabir&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #12 from Summer Storms</title>
         <description>comment from Summer Storms on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sajia @ 11: I have a bit more trust in the Canadian system of government - and the Canadian people - to correct that eventually than I would have in their American analogues to do likewise in the event of a McCain "victory".</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  7:16 PM by Summer Storms&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #13 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the adjective should be 'bitter' given the tone of all the speeches preceding McCain's insomnia cure.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  7:23 PM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #14 from Constance</title>
         <description>comment from Constance on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buchanan wanted to invade Canada too.  And Cuba.  And -- I forget where else, and make them all the U.S.A. and safe for slavery.  That's James Buchanan, btw, not Pat.  Though maybe he does too, who knows?</p>

<p>What James did manage to do was send the navy and army to Paraguay while the confederacy-in-the-making prepared for secession and Civil War, and he helped by sending all the weapons and ammo to them.</p>

<p>Love, C.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  7:29 PM by Constance&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #15 from pants</title>
         <description>comment from pants on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was funny.<br />
I actually laughed.<br />
Really.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  7:37 PM by pants&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #16 from SylvieG</title>
         <description>comment from SylvieG on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, sure, come on in! Make yourselves at home!Have some Timbits! Just make sure to wipe your feet on the mat before entering - we have enough conservative cooties as it is...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  8:47 PM by SylvieG&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #17 from Lin D</title>
         <description>comment from Lin D on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add two more people, a few more cats, and another library of books to the line waiting to move to Canada.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  9:23 PM by Lin D&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #18 from Ken Houghton</title>
         <description>comment from Ken Houghton on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, please. He can't come here.  I just put a lot of effort into moving away from the coming McCain Administration.</p>

<p>Summer Storms:  <a href="http://www.cic.gc.ca/" rel="nofollow">Here's the paperwork</a>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  9:35 PM by Ken Houghton&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #19 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 17<br />
Make that three people and two libraries. (And at least three more computers.)</p>

<p>What, you thought I was going to let the cat leave without me?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  9:40 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #20 from Josh Jasper</title>
         <description>comment from Josh Jasper on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be^Hitter country.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008  9:54 PM by Josh Jasper&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #21 from Earl Cooley III</title>
         <description>comment from Earl Cooley III on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I could get used to poutine, since smuggling Texas BBQ north across the front lines could be problematic.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008 11:23 PM by Earl Cooley III&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #22 from geekosaur</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Summer Storms @<a href="#291857" rel="nofollow">12</a>:</strong><br />
I'm a little worried about Canada:  as bad as things are here, there are fewer safeguards of personal freedoms in the law there.  (Granted, the way the US hs been going is leaving me rather paranoid about them.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008 11:38 PM by geekosaur&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #23 from Summer Storms</title>
         <description>comment from Summer Storms on  5.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geekosaur, the impression I get from most Canadians I speak to is that the Canadian mindset is geared such that they are unlikely to allow things to get as bad there as the Rethuglicans would like things to get here. Also, most personal freedoms seem to me to be more intact in Canada than they are here these days, in terms of actual practice.</p>

<p>Anyone from Canada care to comment on this, at all?</p>

<p>And I also have less fear of a theocratic takeover, Scudder-style, in Canada than in the U.S. As a woman and someone who is openly non-Christian, I'd have essentially no chance of a normal life under such a regime (not that it would be much better for anyone else).</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  5, 2008 11:56 PM by Summer Storms&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #24 from Kristen Chew</title>
         <description>comment from Kristen Chew on  6.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain=Do Not Want.</p>

<p>We have our own troubles up here with Conservatives. They do not need reinforcements.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  1:08 AM by Kristen Chew&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #25 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</title>
         <description>comment from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) on  6.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Sajia Kabir @ 11, Summer Storms @ 12</b></p>

<p>In any case, Canadian Conservatives are almost leftists compared to the theokleptocrats we've got in the US now.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  1:48 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #26 from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)</title>
         <description>comment from Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers) on  6.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the original word was "batter".  He's a really abusive guy, if you ask me.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  1:49 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #27 from Jules</title>
         <description>comment from Jules on  6.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geekosaur @22: it seems to me that the <a href="http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/annex_e.html#I" rel="nofollow">Canadian constitution</a> includes a pretty good enumeration of personal freedoms and rights.  That's not to say I can't think of things that should be added to them, but the same's true for every such charter of rights I've ever seen.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  5:39 AM by Jules&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #28 from Jules</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce @25: Agreed.  Reading the summary of their main policies <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_of_Canada#Ideology.2C_principles.2C_and_policies" rel="nofollow">here</a> they sound a lot more like the UK Conservative party, who may be idiots, but are at least _reasonable_ idiots.</p>

<p>:)<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  5:46 AM by Jules&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #29 from Graydon</title>
         <description>comment from Graydon on  6.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current Conservative Party is significantly dominionist; perhaps not so much so as the Republican Party, but the thread is there. It is certainly not as rich or as well organized, and it has not (yet) managed to move the discourse as far to the right; we've still got an effective Communications Commission, less nakedly pro-corporate legislation, and we <b>don't</b> have the equation of money and speech.</p>

<p>But, like everywhere else, organizations for profit maximization are a major problem and will either eventually be banned or take over.</p>

<p>The thing that worries me is not so much the Conservatives -- though I would very much like to know who paid for Steven Harper's leadership run; he has flatly refused to say -- as the fight in the Liberals between pro-corporate, pro-ideological-purity, and urm, govern? factions.  Both of the first two are actively harmful, and doing very well on the passionate intensity front.</p>

<p>It is at times like these that the deep and pervasive cynicism of my fellow Canadians is a great comfort to me.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  7:56 AM by Graydon&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #30 from John Stanning</title>
         <description>comment from John Stanning on  6.Sep.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a map of the world according to McCain, like the ones for Reagan and <a href="http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2006/12/03/44-the-world-according-to-dubya/" rel="nofollow">Dubya</a>. McCain does probably know where a few places are - I guess the map according to Palin would have a lot of blanks and "here be dragons".</p>]]>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Summer 23:</b> Yes, I've lost count of the number of things I'd be executed for if Palin and her ilk got their absolute druthers.  Out-of-the-closet gay, out-of-the-broom-closet Wiccan, ACLUer (gotta send in that renewal), DSAer (ditto), voted Dem for every office (except non-partisan ones) in every election since I was old enough except one, and pro-Choice in that one.*  Pro-hemp, pro-legalization-or-at-least-decriminalization of marijuana, pro-gun control, anti-war, pro-porn...the list goes on.  Any one of them would be enough for them.</p>

<p>*Well, what would you do if a pro-Choice Republican (really good in other ways too) ran against a so-called pro-Life Democrat (and a wild-eyed wacko to boot)? It was the early 80s, the Republicans were more liberal than the Democrats are now, and Michigan was and is a weird, scary political place.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008 12:26 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graydon:<br />
<i>I would very much like to know who paid for Steven Harper's leadership run; he has flatly refused to say</i></p>

<p>*blinks* Aren't donations to politicians a matter of public record Up North?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008 12:33 PM by Doctor Science&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctor Science @32 --</p>

<p>Donations to <i>politicans</i> are very tightly controlled, with low maximum values.  (This is one of the things the Conservatives don't like, but it would be political suicide to try to change it with a minority, and no one has managed to actually get them charged with ignoring some of those laws yet in any case, though that is grinding forward slowly and will probably eventually eat a party functionary or two.)</p>

<p>But if you are not a sitting MP, and you're running for leadership of a political <b>party</b>, no such controls apply; it's legally entirely internal to the party; no different, legally, from someone campaigning to be president of their local Elk Lodge. So someone or someones ponied up a couple-three millions of dollars, and Mr. Harper will not say who, nor release the records.</p>

<p>So someone owns him, and the political costs of not saying who are high, so my expectation is that even a fair chunk of the consistent Conservative voters would be appalled if they found out precisely who it was. (Carl Rove's dominatrix?  Coalition of beet farmers? Scaife?  Haliburton? One can speculate endlessly; the best bet is "oil-worshipping dominionists".)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  1:26 PM by Graydon&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain just wants to retrieve the draft dodgers and send them to Guantanamo. Or, maybe it's because Palin knows that there is a whole lot of oil and gas left in Northern BC and Alberta. Let the oil companies come up here and screw us, but for heaven's sake, leave Alaska alone ...they just may get fed up and choose to breakaway ...and join Canada. Oh hell, just invade us. It's been coming for years. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  3:38 PM by mommy c&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it was supposed to be `barter country.' He's just proposing a new economic model to help the US through the credit crunch.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  6:49 PM by dave hutchinson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #36 from Paula Lieberman</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26 Bruce</p>

<p>Batter? McCain's making cookies?</p>

<p>Hmm, Gov Palin goes out moosehunting and McCain's staying home in the kitchn baking cookies?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  7:26 PM by Paula Lieberman&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #37 from Rob Rusick</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graydon @33: <i>One can speculate endlessly; the best bet is "oil-worshipping dominionists".</i></p>

<p>I figured 'oil-worship' was the metaphor behind <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093777/" rel="nofollow">Prince of Darkness</a> <i>(by John Carpenter)</i>. That it featured Donald Pleasence as a priest is only a bonus.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  7:27 PM by Rob Rusick&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Earl</b>, #21, when I left visiting with Luke on Wednesday, I stopped at a nearby restaurant and had as an appetizer (and thus brought 2/3 of it home) the Coachman Fries.  French fries covered with chili covered with two kinds of cheese and then jalapeno slices.  Boy, that was good.  I have no idea why it's called Coachman Fries, though, and I did look carefully to make sure it wasn't Couchman Fries.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  8:44 PM by Marilee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why they call them CoachMan Fries; it's probably named that to remind people that they're eating in a sports bar. I wouldn't dip fries in "spicy ranch dressing" on a dare. My favorite fries additive is cream gravy with lots of pepper (the kind often associated with chicken fried steak), although I have tried fries with vinegar in Winnipeg (during my 1994 Worldcon trip) and liked it without shame.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  6, 2008  9:18 PM by Earl Cooley III&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Paula @ 36</b></p>

<p><i>McCain's staying home in the kitchn baking cookies?</i></p>

<p>Nah.  He'd make something manly like chicken-fried steak. Won't catch <i>him</i> doing something girly like baking!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  7, 2008 12:25 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Graydon @ 33</b></p>

<p><i>"oil-worshipping dominionists"</i></p>

<p>Ia! Ia! Shell Oil Fthag'n!<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  7, 2008 12:31 AM by Bruce Cohen (SpeakerToManagers)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #42 from James D. Macdonald</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great moments at the Republican Convention: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usvotemccainschooloffbeat" rel="nofollow">The wrong Walter Reed</a>.</p>

<p>Notice, though, that McCain actually is standing in front of a green screen.  This is to make Cobert's <a href="http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?videoId=174545" rel="nofollow">Green Screen Challenge</a> easier for everyone.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  7, 2008  9:53 AM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now a Republican Women's group in Florida is saying Paling offered to go on Oprah and was refused; so they are boycotting.</p>

<p>I can see it now, "we'vre tried to get her in front of the people, but the, "liberal media" won't have her."</p>

<p>Oi.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  7, 2008 11:12 AM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Now a Republican Women's group in Florida is saying Paling offered to go on Oprah and was refused; so they are boycotting.</i></p>

<p>This is another "Hillary wouldn't meet with the Gold Star Mothers" moment.  Oprah publicly stated, long ago, that she wouldn't have any of the candidates on her show.  And she hasn't.</p>

<p>"The item in today's Drudge Report is categorically untrue. There has been absolutely no discussion about having Sarah Palin on my show. At the beginning of this Presidential campaign when I decided that I was going to take my first public stance in support of a candidate, I made the decision not to use my show as a platform for any of the candidates. I agree that Sarah Palin would be a fantastic interview, and I would love to have her on after the campaign is over."<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  7, 2008 11:39 AM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>I knew John McCain was hot for more wars, but-- -- comment #45 from Juliet E McKenna</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can read more on the Oprah issue at <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk" rel="nofollow">The Guardian</a>. Just scroll down a bit.</p>

<p>I'm thinking the Federal bail-out of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae will attract more attention?</p>

<p>Breaking news on the BBC at the moment.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  7, 2008 11:48 AM by Juliet E McKenna&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim:  I didn't think it was true.  I think it's a staged controversy, and meant to keep pressure on the press, and off the campaign for her lack of appearance.</p>

<p>We can only hope this little charade is lost in the fiasco of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.</p>

<p>Now is the time to bring the Keating Five back to life.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  7, 2008 12:21 PM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry #46: <i>meant to keep pressure on the press, and off the campaign for her lack of appearance.</i></p>

<p>I don't see how that's supposed to work.  I don't know if anyone in McCain's base would notice whether or not she'd ever been on Meet the Press or Face the Nation or any of the other Sunday Talking Heads shows, but pretty soon it's going to be obvious to the independents and undecideds.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  7, 2008  5:02 PM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, I always thought that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were merely government agencies to start with.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  7, 2008  5:39 PM by Earl Cooley III&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September  8, 2008  1:55 AM by Marilee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Army's suicide rate <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/09/09/army.suicides/" rel="nofollow">continues to rise</a>. Could someone recommend a lickspittle neocon chickenhawk weblog that I could use as a punching bag?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 10, 2008 12:38 AM by Earl Cooley III&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I didn't mean to shut down the whole topic. I suppose I could just take a few deep breaths and surrender to outrage fatigue instead of lashing out.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 10, 2008 11:47 AM by Earl Cooley III&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share your feelings, Earl.  The misuse and abuse of our troops in this war makes me want to kill everyone who advocated it.  I suppress this urge, being a civilized being who doesn't want to go to prison, but the rage is there.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 10, 2008 11:55 AM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 31, 2009  6:13 PM by MickeyBr&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>god I h8 that man...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 31, 2009  6:14 PM by MickeyBr&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>god I h8 that man...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 31, 2009  6:14 PM by MickeyBr&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder. It's certainly harsh. Also rude.</p>]]>
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