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      <description>Kate Beaton isn&amp;#8217;t the only one doing historical webcomics. London-based animator Sydney Padua is doing a series of comics about...</description>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #1 from will shetterly</title>
         <description>comment from will shetterly on 11.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delightful!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2009  4:08 AM by will shetterly&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #2 from Zander</title>
         <description>comment from Zander on 11.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovelace and Babbage is a beautiful thing and deserves to be more widely known.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2009  7:39 AM by Zander&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #3 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 11.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was especially amused by the cartoon about Lovelace as the Byronic Woman.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2009  9:28 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #4 from xeger</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed!!!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2009 10:00 AM by xeger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #5 from Mark</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Byronic containment field failing!</p>

<p>So very much win.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2009 11:09 AM by Mark&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #6 from Mike Leung</title>
         <description>comment from Mike Leung on 11.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After George Carlin died, a lot of his broadcast interviews became available online. The common observation/question that stood out was something like, "wow, you really make your audience think, don't you?" He always denied this, responding that he wasn't challenging the audience to think but instead showed the audience that he was thinking. While not necessarily a best-practice in performance comedy (we can imagine Stan Laurel dedicating thought to what he did, but we don't laugh because he showed any) showing the audience thought without imposing on their own seems to be an inherent best-practice in comics as a medium. The medium is hostile to subplots (subplots are still a barrier to accessing Alan Moore's work). And in comics any cropping of the figure disproportionately risks losing the reader, since each panel occupies so much more of storytelling "time."</p>

<p>I like how the internet has opened more access to comics, where artists like Padua can play at push this gap between the artist's display of thought and how little the thinking is imposed on the audience.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2009 11:11 AM by Mike Leung&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #7 from Mike Leung</title>
         <description>comment from Mike Leung on 11.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>...pushing this gap between the artist's display of thought and how little the challenge to think is imposed on the audience...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2009 11:26 AM by Mike Leung&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #8 from Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey</title>
         <description>comment from Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey on 11.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!  This is just swell.  And I appreciate it more because of <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.sf.fandom/msg/c0a2b4ddd0f95c84" rel="nofollow">my own small Babbage-related obsession</a>, namely the copies of Carquillat's <a href="http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/txtn/ho_31.124.htm" rel="nofollow">Jacquard Jacquard</a> he purchased, and its even more recursive sequel, the <a href="http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/geog/gessler/collections/silk-jacquard-visite-large.jpg" rel="nofollow">Jacquard Jacquard Jacquard</a>.</p>

<p>I had not realized that Babbage owned a silver female automaton.  Must read <i>Passages from the Life of a Philosopher</i> one of these years.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2009 12:06 PM by Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #9 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on 11.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puns are not poetry? Harrumph!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 11, 2009 12:57 PM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #10 from Paula Lieberman</title>
         <description>comment from Paula Lieberman on 13.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just noticed this thread, partially because....</p>

<p>Coworker in adjacent cubicle whose eating habits are somewhat reminiscent of a hobbit (he eats breakfast and maybe second breakfast, and....): "I'm forwarding you some good link about Ada Lovelace, including a cartoon."</p>

<p>Me:  "Have you eaten your Babbage today?"</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 13, 2009  9:07 AM by Paula Lieberman&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #11 from ajay</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent stuff! Will be reading that in future, and hoping for the involvement of some other Eminent Victorians (Michael Faraday? Charles Darwin?)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 13, 2009  9:36 AM by ajay&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #12 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on 13.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Bill Higgins</b> @ 8... </p>

<p>I was quite amused by this part of your linked post.</p>

<blockquote>Babbage worked out a system of colored stage lighting using limelight shining through glass tanks of colored fluid.  He produced a ballet that would show off his special effects, and got some of his Royal Society buddies to assist him.  Hyman comments that, with Babbage and Michael Faraday, this ballet had perhaps the most scientifically high-powered tech crew in history.</blockquote>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 13, 2009 10:44 AM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #13 from Stephan Brun</title>
         <description>comment from Stephan Brun on 14.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comic. I did some checking, and it seems Sydney Padua is a friend of Suw Charman, sometime <a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/commentlist-oneauthor.php?commentid=177213" rel="nofollow">commenter</a> hereabouts.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 14, 2009  2:08 AM by Stephan Brun&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #14 from Stephan Brun</title>
         <description>comment from Stephan Brun on 14.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Fragano, in the panel you are referring to, Lady Ada is wondering whether puns are poetry, so she can smite the punster (Babbage, incorrigible, as it happens). Having little exposure to poetry, having been raised by <strike>wolves</strike> mathematicians, she truly doesn't know (but suspects).</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 14, 2009  2:37 AM by Stephan Brun&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #15 from Stephan Brun</title>
         <description>comment from Stephan Brun on 14.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(It's all explain'd in the origin story (where the two team up and fight the alien invasion.))</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 14, 2009  2:50 AM by Stephan Brun&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #16 from Dave Bell</title>
         <description>comment from Dave Bell on 17.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, a page of <a href="http://www.meccano.us/difference_engines/index.html" rel="nofollow">stuff on Difference Engines, including Meccano and Lego</a>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 17, 2009  4:35 PM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Lovelace and Babbage -- comment #17 from Suw</title>
         <description>comment from Suw on 18.Jul.09</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo! Yes, I'm afraid I've been far too erstwhile around these parts lately! </p>

<p>I know Syd has some really cool stuff planned for the comic, so it will be well worth keeping an eye on. I'm not sure if her frequent repetition of "Wow, Faraday was really hot!" will have any bearing on future episodes, but I suspect (hope) it may (will). </p>

<p>She's also done an episode in colour for BBC's TechLab, which is well worth a look: </p>

<p>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8139075.stm</p>

<p>If anyone's curious, this whole shenanigans started as Syd's contribution to Ada Lovelace Day, an international day of blogging to raise the profile of women in tech. Fabulous result, if you ask me! </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted July 18, 2009  6:10 AM by Suw&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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