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      <description>I only know I found them. I don't know why. I surely wasn't looking for them. William Blake's cat. Van...</description>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #1 from Mary Kay</title>
         <description>comment from Mary Kay on  7.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear.  Giggles and outright guffaws resound.  I think I liked The Cavalier better though.  http://www.literary-cat.cwc.net/Arty_cats_2.htm</p>

<p>Some of these looked very familiar -- I think we may have a book with some of them....</p>

<p>Oh <i>there's</i> a surprise!</p>

<p>MKK</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  7, 2003  1:49 AM by Mary Kay&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #2 from Dave Bell</title>
         <description>comment from Dave Bell on  7.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have I mentioned the <a href="http://www.rathergood.com/" rel="nofollow">Viking Kittens</a>?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  7, 2003  1:59 PM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #3 from Xopher</title>
         <description>comment from Xopher on  7.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Viking Kittens are unbelievably horrible!  Horror Show, in fact.  O Chen Horror Show.</p>

<p>I was hard pressed not to laugh aloud.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  7, 2003  4:21 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #4 from Kate Yule</title>
         <description>comment from Kate Yule on  7.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm.  If the Viking Kittens' goal is the Western Shore, doesn't that imply they're sailing eastward?  Wouldn't west be more traditional?  And why am I so sure that "Western Shore" is relative to the land mass, and not to the body of water?</p>

<p>Hmmm #2.  Unlike dogs, cats apparently do not play poker.  A shame, really:  they bluff magnificently.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  7, 2003  8:17 PM by Kate Yule&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #5 from Robert L</title>
         <description>comment from Robert L on  7.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Viking kittens are so art. Just pretty terrible art.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  7, 2003 10:40 PM by Robert L&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2003 22:40:16 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #6 from Trent Goulding</title>
         <description>comment from Trent Goulding on  8.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Lord. The opening bars of Viking Kittens nearly made me spew liquid all over the keyboard, not least because it was unexpected. I mean, I expected wacky, just not...that.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  8, 2003 12:44 AM by Trent Goulding&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2003 00:44:47 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #7 from Kathryn Cramer</title>
         <description>comment from Kathryn Cramer on  8.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>...an early symptom of cat collecting?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  8, 2003  7:16 AM by Kathryn Cramer&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #8 from Dave Bell</title>
         <description>comment from Dave Bell on  8.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that I should apologise for directing people to a Viking page which makes such blatant use of horned helmets.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  8, 2003  9:05 AM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #9 from Paul Riddell</title>
         <description>comment from Paul Riddell on  8.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't knock the Viking Kittens:  you now have a view into my world.  You don't even want to know about the World's Meanest Box Turtle currently residing in my apartment, and how she's trying to fit zimmerit on her shell and install a LAW on top.  (I dread the day someone decides to start watching Japanese monster movies over here:  the first time she watches "Gamera", we're all doomed.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  8, 2003  1:49 PM by Paul Riddell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #10 from Jon</title>
         <description>comment from Jon on  8.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I wouldn't worry about the helmet thing.  Historical accuracy is the least of this page's problems.</p>

<p>Still, I laughed, I cried, I fell out of my chair.  Good thing no one was in the library at the time.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  8, 2003  4:49 PM by Jon&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #11 from Claude Muncey</title>
         <description>comment from Claude Muncey on  8.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remembering this earlier <a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/2003_02.html#002319" rel="nofollow">discussion</a>, I was wondering if anyone had identified just <i>who</i> Queen Anne of Brittany's patron cats were?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  8, 2003  5:56 PM by Claude Muncey&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #12 from James D. Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from James D. Macdonald on  9.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The patron-saint cat on the left is undoubtedly St. Anne, patron saint of Brittany, grandmother of Jesus, wife of St. Joachim.</p>

<p>The other two bear martyr's crowns.  The one in the center may be St. Edmund, who carries the ermine banner and clutches an arrow.  The other, a female carrying a cross bottony and holding out an empty hand, I haven't yet figured out.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  9, 2003 11:02 AM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2003 11:02:19 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #13 from Damien Warman</title>
         <description>comment from Damien Warman on  9.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate Yule ponders:  <i>If the Viking Kittens' goal is the Western Shore, doesn't that imply they're sailing eastward?</i></p>

<p>I put it to you, Kate, that the Vikittenings are sailing to the western shore of <i>Ireland</i>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  9, 2003  3:00 PM by Damien Warman&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #14 from marty</title>
         <description>comment from marty on 10.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had the Viking Kittens in my favorites list for quite a while now. Every so often I need to have a refresher to the days ...news.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 10, 2003 12:43 PM by marty&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #15 from Kip</title>
         <description>comment from Kip on 10.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the days of me youth, when a friend and I decided we should recreate the world's great works of art, only populated by big-eyed cats instead of people: <b>The Last Supper, The Guild of Cloth Merchants,</b> and so on. Sadly, this project languished around 1980, and nothing came of it except some good sketches. Well, the torch has been borne aloft triumphantly (although with more normal-sized eyeballs). I salute them.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 10, 2003  1:22 PM by Kip&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #16 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 10.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn, Jim sniped off the easy one. The old lady cat with all the headgear is undoubtedly Saint Anne. The rightmost saint is a martyr, but that's as far as I can take it. </p>

<p>It would help if I could see the original. If the reason the cat has its left arm up in that odd position is that it was originally holding a small masonry tower tucked into the crook of its elbow, then it's Saint Barbara. If it was holding a tray with eyeballs on it, it's Saint Lucy. And so forth and so on.</p>

<p>Saints without their emblems are as hard to sort out as an inked but not yet colored page full of superheroes.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 10, 2003  5:55 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #17 from James D. Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from James D. Macdonald on 11.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The saint on the right <i>could</i> be St. Helen, if the cross she's carrying is the True Cross.</p>

<p>St. Helen was a British girl, daughter of Old King Cole.  If that crown is a royal crown rather than a martyr's crown it will work.  We know from her covered hair that she's a married lady (so Virgin & Martyr is right out).  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 11, 2003  9:57 AM by James D. Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Dubious art -- comment #18 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 11.Feb.03</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Ghu, you're right; those are crespines she's wearing. That plus the crown plus the cross ... Saint Helena. And given the central figure's crown and arrow, you've got to be right about it being Saint Edmund the Martyr. </p>

<p>That's three out of three. You rock.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 11, 2003  2:42 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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