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      <description>I&amp;#8217;m sorry to say that the search string get published now! turns up over 3,000 hits on Google, with or...</description>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #1 from Karin</title>
         <description>comment from Karin on  6.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Searching on "black leather" and "mirrored sunglasses" will turn up quite a few William Gibson wannabes.  I bet you could male a whole game out of this sort of thing.</p>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #2 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  6.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Bet you could. This is fun.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  6, 2003  5:02 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #3 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>I've done some trial runs, and <i>mirrorshades black leather</i> seems to get the most cyberthingummy hits with the least noise.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  6, 2003  5:08 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #4 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  6.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I find that <i>beautiful shyly phaser</i> will get you a lot of bad Trek fic. I don't know whether it's optimal.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  6, 2003  5:16 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #5 from Karin</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Try "noble ranger" for a lot of D&D-esque fiction, and a ton of actual gaming stuff.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  6, 2003  5:41 PM by Karin</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #6 from Karin</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>"billowing cape" and "sword" are also good.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  6, 2003  5:44 PM by Karin</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #7 from Castiron</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>I haven't found a search string that's narrow enough to <em>only</em> get the fanfic, but "curse owl nimbus" gets plenty of Harry Potter fanpages.  If the rules require avoiding words that are proper nouns in the story, "curse owl broomstick" works too. (Earlier attempts with "blond broomstick" were quickly discarded.)</p>
	 <p>Posted March  6, 2003  7:21 PM by Castiron</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #8 from --k.</title>
         <description>comment from --k. on  6.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>You realize, of course, that (aside from entertainment value) this is (something of) a challenge.</p>

<p>The moreso, as no one seems to have taken it up since your first post on the phenomenon.</p>

<p>(I think it could be agreed that including the relevant phrase, "She loved him. She really loved him," as dialogue would be a cheat. --How about playing a <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22you+never+did+the+kenosha+kid%22" rel="nofollow">Kenosha Kid</a> with it? Not that I can see any interesting Kenosha Kid possibilities there. Maybe I should get back to work. Enough procrastinatin'.)</p>
	 <p>Posted March  6, 2003  7:45 PM by --k.</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #9 from Steve</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>"She loved. Him, she really loved. Him." doesn't have quite that Pynchonian swing.</p>

<p>"Snitch" seems to be an excellent Harry Potter tip-off. "Passionate snitch broom" is the best I've found so far without using proper nouns.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  6, 2003 11:07 PM by Steve</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #10 from redfox</title>
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         <content:encoded><p><i>lingering watcher kiss</i></p>
	 <p>Posted March  6, 2003 11:14 PM by redfox</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #11 from Jon</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>I also see that "get published tomorrow!" only gets about 12 hits.  The impatience of this busy, busy world, I'm guessing.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  7, 2003  8:43 AM by Jon</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #12 from Rivka Wald</title>
         <description>comment from Rivka Wald on  7.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I am pleased to see that "That Fateful Day" is also the name of a rock band.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  7, 2003  3:35 PM by Rivka Wald</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #13 from Rivka Wald</title>
         <description>comment from Rivka Wald on  7.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Oh my goodness.</p>

<p>If you really want to catch the golden Snitch of Harry Potter fanfic, try Googling for <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=american+transfer+student+hogwarts" rel="nofollow">american transfer student hogwarts</a>. Sure, by this point you'll find a fair number of <a href="http://www.riddikulus.org/authorLinks/CLS/" rel="nofollow">parodies</a>, but there are still plenty of <a href="http://www.worldofmagic.org/fanfic/american2.html" rel="nofollow">gems</a>. I quote:</p>

<p>[the Sorting Hat, critiquing the new American transfer student:] "Hmmm.... What an interesting specimen we have here. You know quite a bit of magic already, don't you? Yes, very intelligent you are. Proud, and yet humble at the same time. Very brave, lots of courage here. And.. oh yes, definitely crafty too. Hmmm.... Where should I place you?"</p>

<p>Where else but Gryffindor, of course, for Mary S- uh, Ellen. Whereupon:</p>

<p><i>"You're Harry Potter! Glad to meet you," she said, extending her hand. Harry shook it. "Sorry I cut you off, Harry. I mean, I just know who you are because we learned about you in school. And I just want to let you know up front, that I'm not going to be one of those people who fawns over you all the time. No disrespect meant by it, I just know how I feel when people do it to me. So, I try hard not to do it to others."</i></p>

<p><i>Ellen smiled around at them, and they all felt themselves taking an instant liking to her. </i></p>

<p>Every time I read something like this I come one step closer to writing a story myself. Because really, <i>could</i> I possibly do worse?</p>
	 <p>Posted March  7, 2003  4:56 PM by Rivka Wald</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #14 from jennie</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>"Steely blue gaze" gets 220 hits, the second  from elfporn.com (I wasn't curious enough to visit).  "Steely grey gaze" got 10, most of which appear to be sf type writing.  "Steely gray gaze" got 12, one of whcih is a cowboy tale.  "steely green gaze" also got 12.</p>

<p>There were no hits for "steely chartreuse gaze", though there were 85 without the quotes.</p>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #15 from Steve</title>
         <description>comment from Steve on  7.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I bow to Rivka, who has won the House Cup for HP fanfic filtering.</p>

<p><i>Every time I read something like this I come one step closer to writing a story myself. Because really, could I possibly do worse?</i></p>

<p>Oh, I'm sure <i>someone</i> could. The bottom for fanfic quality is <a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=%22marissa+picard%22&sa=N&tab=wg" rel="nofollow">lower than you'd think</a>. Adam Cadre, who did a <a href="http://www.masemware.com/mst3k/cgi/mstdisplay.pl/argon.01.AC.txt?htmlmode=color&filename=argon.01.AC.txt" rel="nofollow">painfully funny</a> MSTing of "The Eye of Argon" has <a href="http://www.masemware.com/mst3k/cgi/mstdisplay.pl/royal_wedding.AC.txt?htmlmode=on&filename=royal_wedding.AC.txt" rel="nofollow">taken a shot</a> at these, as have <a href="http://www.masemware.com/mst3k/cgi/misting-search2.pl?search_category=on&category=SR" rel="nofollow">many others</a>.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  7, 2003  5:33 PM by Steve</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #16 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  7.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p><i>claws stripe touch bub</i></p>
	 <p>Posted March  7, 2003  7:32 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #17 from Bill G.</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>I tried a few phrases that would be characteristic of E. E. Smith, and hit paydirt with "gold flecked blue eyes".  Not only does that turn up some Lensman fanfic, but it also brings up a pile (some might call it a steaming pile) of other fanfic too.</p>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #18 from Bill G.</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>Good (bad) results are also found using "not just for her body" as a search string.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  7, 2003  8:38 PM by Bill G.</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #19 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  7.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Rivka, you <i>rule</i>. That piece of HP Marysuismo is painful to read.</p>

<p>Has anyone else here tried Redfox's <i>lingering watcher kiss</i>? It turns up perfectly dreadful Buffy fic. The very first hit mentions Giles' buttocks, which is not a subject I want to know more about.</p>

<p>K., say what, Kenosha Kid? I thought that was supposed to be Orson Welles or summat.</p>

<p>Bill, that's a good one. I'm off to check it out.</p>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #20 from Rivka Wald</title>
         <description>comment from Rivka Wald on  7.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I should add that, curiously, the author of that Harry Potter fic I quoted has the same name as her main character. What are the odds of that?</p>

<p>Bill, "not just for her body" is inspired. You frighten me.</p>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #21 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  7.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Given that it's a raving Mary Sue, I'd put the odds at close to 100%.</p>

<p><i>Not just for her body</i> is horribly apt.</p>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #22 from Bryant</title>
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         <content:encoded><p><i>preserver kiss highthing</i></p>

<p>Oh, the <a href="http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7846/scrolls/eqten7.html" rel="nofollow">horror</a>.</p>

<p>"'As you remember,' intruded Washuu's voice into the still silence of the room. She cast Ayeka a meaningful, if questioning glance as she spoke. 'Leetah here possesses a healing power. I haven't quite worked out the specifics of it yet, but we've seen it in action, at least on her kind. And if my hypothesis is correct, she should be able to do the same on Mr. Masaki here?'"</p>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #23 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  7.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>For the benefit of those contemplating the relative merits of steely-blue eyes as opposed to gold-flecked blue eyes as opposed to some other improbable characteristic, I've just posted <i>MaggieFic92s Handy-Dandy Mary Sue Generator</i> out in the main sequence. </p>

<p>It gives you Mary Sue's <b>Name</b> (Giselle de Smytheford, DeLacey Ravenwing, Felicitie de la Fleur), <b>Eye Color</b> (smoky azure, swirling topaz, silver jade), <b>Hair Color</b> (tousled mahogany, burnished bronze, abundant wheat), <b>Signature Scent</b> (antique tea rose, spicy peaches, summersweet patchouli), <b>Paranormal Power</b> (Force adept, talks to animals, Power of Love), <b>Specialized Skill</b> (scientific genius, linguistics expert, CEO), <b>Distinguishing Mark</b> (streak of white hair, flawless skin, pointed ears), and <b>Newly Revealed Relationship to a Major Character</b> (Xander's girlfriend, Q's long-lost twin, Captain Picard's student).</p>

<p>(Oh yeah, <i>her</i>.)</p>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #24 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  7.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I've been subtracting <i>poem, poems, poetry</i> to keep things tidy.</p>

<p>To get a bunch of way girly fiction, google on <i>billowing silken teardrops</i>. Barf.</p>
	 <p>Posted March  7, 2003 10:44 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #25 from Sue Mason</title>
         <description>comment from Sue Mason on  8.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I couldn't figure out why you'd need 'stripe' in the search for<br />
'claws stripe touch bub'<br />
So I googled it, like a good girl, all makes sense now.</p>

<p>tailor doctor gaze lust<br />
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	 <p>Posted March  8, 2003  7:03 PM by Sue Mason</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #26 from Alan Hamilton</title>
         <description>comment from Alan Hamilton on  8.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I liked this from one site: <em>You know something's popular when it starts to inspire new fiction based on it.</em>  Uh, no.  There is fanfic about <em>everything</em>, no matter how obscure.  Little-watched shows that lasted only a few episodes have fanfic -- <a href="http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Vault/5146/phoenix2.html" rel="nofollow">The Phoenix</a> for example, which ran 5 episodes in 1982.<br />
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	 <p>Posted March  8, 2003 11:39 PM by Alan Hamilton</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #27 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  9.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Alan, when I found that piece of Tony Blair/Gordon Brown slash I blogged a while back, I knew anything was possible.</p>

<p>Sue, <i>claws</i> and <i>stripe</i> define the characters, <i>touch</i> sorts for theme, and <i>bub</i> gets rid of a bunch of natural history websites.</p>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #28 from Sue Mason</title>
         <description>comment from Sue Mason on  9.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I didn't twig 'stripe' at all, couldn't think what it refered to untill I did the google. I suppose my problem is that I wouldn't think of looking for fanfic between those two characters.</p>

<p>I suppose 'claw  tail  stroke bub' would do for me.</p>

<p>Not that one would, of course...<br />
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	 <p>Posted March  9, 2003  5:21 AM by Sue Mason</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Just checking -- comment #29 from Steve Taylor</title>
         <description>comment from Steve Taylor on 10.Mar.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Slightly tangential to this, http://www.theregister.co.uk likes to occasionaly run the result of googling phrases like 'staff access only' and so on, to show the wonders of website security.</p>
	 <p>Posted March 10, 2003  5:02 AM by Steve Taylor</p></content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2003 05:02:01 -0500</pubDate>
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