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April 4, 2003

BRAMA bull session
Posted by Teresa at 11:04 PM *

Tired of the same old arguments? Want to feel like you’re visiting a semi-alien planet? Try the BRAMA Gateway Forum, and listen to the voices of the Ukrainian Diaspora. Naturally, they’re arguing right now about the war in Iraq. Otherwise it sounds a lot like a quiet week in the SFF Net SFWA forum, if SFWA made Byelorussian jokes and conducted half their arguments in the Cyrillic alphabet.

Comments on BRAMA bull session:
#1 ::: Rachel Heslin ::: (view all by) ::: April 04, 2003, 11:46 PM:

Okay, this I found interesting. Don't know how the survey was taken or its scientific validity, but, sadly, it doesn't surprise me.

#2 ::: Stefan Jones ::: (view all by) ::: April 05, 2003, 02:01 AM:

Massive cognitive dissonance on seeing my name as the poster . . .

I can believe that the poll could be accurate; that is, that is reflects the beliefs of a population. The U.S. has trod on a lot of toes and burned a lot of bridges this last year.

While there's a LOT about current U.S. foreign policy I dislike, I don't agree with it myself.

#3 ::: Rachel Heslin ::: (view all by) ::: April 05, 2003, 03:23 AM:

I think that it's true, not so much in the sense that we're going to go out and start bombing every little country that disagrees with us, but because the arrogance and short-sightedness of the current administration is encouraging an atmosphere of suspicion and mistrust in the international community, making peaceful alternatives to conflict more difficult.

#4 ::: Avram ::: (view all by) ::: April 05, 2003, 04:39 AM:

For each of those countries (North Korea, Iraq, USA, for those of you not bothering to follow the link), list how many wars they've been in over the past decade.

#5 ::: Paul Riddell ::: (view all by) ::: April 05, 2003, 01:10 PM:

You mean that SFWA members have a sense of humor, much less a sense of humor that developed? Where? I want to see that lone specimen before it becomes extinct...

#6 ::: Teresa Nielsen Hayden ::: (view all by) ::: April 05, 2003, 05:07 PM:

Paul, quite a few of them do. Honest. I'll grant you might have trouble spotting that in the midst of a SFWA argument.

#7 ::: Mr Ripley ::: (view all by) ::: April 07, 2003, 12:13 PM:

It was one of those online surveys a la CNN, posted on the homepage of Time's international edition. My guess is that the U.S. would still have won in a more scientific international poll taken at that time, but by nowhere nearly as much.

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