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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #1 from Stefan Jones</title>
         <description>comment from Stefan Jones on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Whooo! Big win! You go there Al!</p>

<p>Al Franken could get even more publicity off of this by treating Weird Al to a meal at "Grandpa's," Al Lewis's Manhattan greasy spoon.</p>

<p>Lewis is an old lefty and would probably get a kick out of that.</p>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #2 from Claude Muncey</title>
         <description>comment from Claude Muncey on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I like <a href="http://www.calpundit.com/archives/001978.html" rel="nofollow">Kevin Drum's</a> line: <i>A federal judge told Fox News today not to let the courthouse door hit them on their corporate ass when they slink out of the building.</i></p>

<p>From what I can see the judge did everything but blow them a razzberry . . .</p>
	 <p>Posted August 22, 2003  7:06 PM by Claude Muncey</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #3 from Claude Muncey</title>
         <description>comment from Claude Muncey on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p><a href="http://www.nynewsday.com/nyc-fran0823,0,1365110.story?coll=nyc-topheadlines-left" rel="nofollow">Newday's version</a> has even more after the end of your text:</p>

<blockquote><i>Fox was seeking an injunction to bar Penguin from distributing copies of the book with its current cover, or any cover that featured the words "fair and balanced." The lawsuit described Franken as a "C-level political commentator" who is "increasingly unfunny." It suggested he was "intoxicated or deranged" when he confronted a table of Fox personalities at a correspondents' dinner in April.</i></blockquote>

<blockquote><i>"He is not a well-respected voice in American politics; rather, he appears to be shrill and unstable," the suit said. "His views lack any serious depth or insight."</i></blockquote>

<blockquote><i>By contrast, Fox took pains to promote its own programming in the suit, citing a subscriber base of 80 million viewers and repeatedly noting the network is the top ratings winner among cable news channels.</i></blockquote>

<p>I love that last paragraph -- so fair and balanced.</p>
	 <p>Posted August 22, 2003  7:12 PM by Claude Muncey</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #4 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Cute. "Everybody watches us, so we must be right about this point of law." At least they got some advertising out of it.</p>
	 <p>Posted August 22, 2003  7:16 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #5 from David Moles</title>
         <description>comment from David Moles on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Are we <i>sure</i> Rupert Murdoch doesn&#8217;t own Penguin?</p>

<p>It occurs to me that public discourse might actually be a little better off if the media conglomerates&#8217; different subsidiaries would start cross-attacking each other to generate publicity instead of cross-promoting each other. Not much better off, but a little.</p>

<p>(Come to think of it, I&#8217;m kind of surprised William Gibson hasn&#8217;t already used that idea.)</p>
	 <p>Posted August 22, 2003  7:37 PM by David Moles</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #6 from Rich McAllister</title>
         <description>comment from Rich McAllister on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I read <a href="http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/ip/foxpenguin80703cmp.pdf" rel="nofollow"> the whole Fox complaint</a>. The bit about their ratings was actually one of the few sensible things in it -- they were there to try to establish that "Fair and Balanced" was really  widely known and used as a Fox trademark and so there was real value in it which Franken and Penguin were trying to appropriate.</p>

<p>If anybody finds the full text of the judge's ruling please let me know.</p>
	 <p>Posted August 22, 2003  7:39 PM by Rich McAllister</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #7 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Rich, the trouble with that argument was that just about everyone I know was shocked to learn that Fox had laid claim to "fair & balanced". That puts the kibosh on the idea that their use of it is widely known.</p>
	 <p>Posted August 22, 2003  8:04 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #8 from Claude Muncey</title>
         <description>comment from Claude Muncey on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>David's comment pushed me over to Google -- hmm Penguin owned by <a href="http://www.pearson.com/" rel="nofollow">Pearson plc</a> (and yes Teresa, I am sure that <i>you</i> knew that already, but I didn't) which also owns the Financial Times group.  Nice combination.</p>
	 <p>Posted August 22, 2003  8:53 PM by Claude Muncey</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #9 from Lis Riba</title>
         <description>comment from Lis Riba on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Fox's version was credited to AP, but included some anti-Franken lines that I didn't see in the original AP article (though from Claude Muncey's comment, I see that Newsday also added that paragraph -- is Newsday owned by Rupert Murdoch by any chance?)</p>
	 <p>Posted August 22, 2003  9:11 PM by Lis Riba</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #10 from Kate Nepveu</title>
         <description>comment from Kate Nepveu on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I haven't seen the decision online yet, but I'd watch this page:</p>

<p>http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/RulingsOfInterest.htm</p>

<p>and well as Findlaw</p>

<p>http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/documents/</p>

<p>The complaint on Findlaw was filed in state court; I assume the defendants removed it to federal court? </p>
	 <p>Posted August 22, 2003  9:49 PM by Kate Nepveu</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #11 from Lis Riba</title>
         <description>comment from Lis Riba on 22.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I know that it was moved from state to federal courts sometime late last week or early this week; I don't know by whom. I think partly because it was a more national issue.</p>
	 <p>Posted August 22, 2003 11:05 PM by Lis Riba</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #12 from Alan Bostick</title>
         <description>comment from Alan Bostick on 23.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Read <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/23/nyregion/23FRAN.html?ei=5062&en=6cfbdf84c389c8ed&ex=1062216000&pagewanted=print&position=" rel="nofollow">The New York Times'</a> coverage.</p>

<p>Fox news was laughed out of court.</p>

<p><i>Literally.</i></p>
	 <p>Posted August 23, 2003  2:43 AM by Alan Bostick</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #13 from Kip W</title>
         <description>comment from Kip W on 23.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Looks like "Dumb and Dumber" might be a good fallback slogan for them. Maybe the movie people could sue them and increase their viewership... at least among that particular coveted demographic.</p>
	 <p>Posted August 23, 2003  8:00 AM by Kip W</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #14 from Kip W</title>
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         <content:encoded><p>The NY Times article is great; thanks, Alan. Looks like the decision to sue was really, really stupid, whether they were backed by Dennis Slater, Dennis Miller, or Dennis the Menace, in my fair and balanced opinion.</p>

<p>For messing with satire, they should have been stepped on outside the courthouse by a huge foot from an Italian painting, with a loud squelching noise. Nobody expected that!</p>
	 <p>Posted August 23, 2003  8:08 AM by Kip W</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #15 from James D. Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from James D. Macdonald on 23.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>See also <a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/003248.html#003248" rel="nofollow">this thread</a>.</p>
	 <p>Posted August 23, 2003  8:55 AM by James D. Macdonald</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #16 from marc</title>
         <description>comment from marc on 23.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/entertainment/6597319.htm<br />
has the story with an even better closing:</p>

<p> 9Posted on Sat, Aug. 23, 2003 9 9<br />
Fox's bid to block Franken book is denied<br />
ERIN McCLAM<br />
Associated Press</p>

<p>NEW YORK - Calling it an easy case, a judge rejected Fox News Channel's bid to block liberal humorist Al Franken's new book, whose cover mocks the Fox slogan "fair and balanced."</p>

<p>U.S. District Judge Denny Chin said the book, "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right," is a parody protected by the First Amendment.</p>

<p>"There are hard cases and there are easy cases," the judge said Friday in a Manhattan courtroom. "This is an easy case. This case is wholly without merit, both factually and legally."</p>

<p>The network had argued the book's cover, which features the word "Lies" over images of Fox prime-time host Bill O'Reilly and conservative pundit Ann Coulter, could trick some consumers into believing the book was associated with Fox.</p>

<p>Franken called the ruling a victory for the First Amendment and satirists everywhere - "even bad satirists."</p>

<p>He also said he was grateful for the publicity: publisher Penguin Group added 50,000 copies to the original run of 270,000 after Fox filed suit, and rolled out the book Thursday instead of its planned September release date.</p>

<p>"In addition to thanking my own lawyers," Franken said, "I'd like to thank Fox's lawyers for filing one of the stupidest briefs I've ever seen in my life."</p>

<p>Fox trademarked "Fair and Balanced" as a slogan in 1998. It was seeking an injunction barring Penguin Group from using the cover or any other promotion including those words.</p>

<p>On Friday, the book was listed at No. 2 on Amazon.com's best seller list, behind "The South Beach Diet."</p>

<p>Fox spokesman Paul Schur said the network was considering its options.</p>

<p>"We don't care if it's Al Franken, Al Lewis or Weird Al Yankovic," he said. "We're here to protect our trademark and our talent."</p>

<p>The judge also took direct aim at Fox for bringing the case and criticized the "fair and balanced" trademark itself as weak because the words are used frequently in what the judge called "the public marketplace."</p>

<p>"It is ironic that a media company, which should be protecting the First Amendment, is seeking to undermine it," Chin said.</p>

<p>In court, Fox sought to convince the judge Franken was harming the network by using its slogan to sell books. Fox lawyers said it was not clear to consumers that the book was a parody or joke.</p>

<p>"It's a deadly serious cover," Fox lawyer Dori Hanswirth said. "And it's using the trademark of Fox News to sell itself."</p>

<p>The judge pointed out the book cover also features pictures of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.</p>

<p>"Is someone going to think they are affiliated with Fox?" Chin said, to laughter in the courtroom.</p>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #17 from Jon Hansen</title>
         <description>comment from Jon Hansen on 23.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Lis, NewsDay is owned by the Chicago Tribune, which is run by Dennis Fitzsimmons.</p>
	 <p>Posted August 23, 2003 11:48 AM by Jon Hansen</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Federal judge denies Fox&apos;s request for injunction -- comment #18 from Chad Orzel</title>
         <description>comment from Chad Orzel on 24.Aug.03</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I keep meaning to comment on this, but new-doggie things have kept me a little too busy. She's calmed down enough for a resumption of almost regular blogrolling, so here's my comment, a little bit late:</p>

<p><i>Rich, the trouble with that argument was that just about everyone I know was shocked to learn that Fox had laid claim to "fair & balanced". That puts the kibosh on the idea that their use of it is widely known.</i></p>

<p>You do say "just about," but let me add myself to the short list of the unsurprised. I knew that "Fair & Balanced" was a Fox News tagline (mostly by way of liberal bloggers quoting Fox's more egregious distortions and following them with "'Fair & Balanced,' my ass..." or words to that effect).</p>

<p>Well, OK, I was slightly surprised to hear that they had officially trademarked it, but only a tiny bit, given the many and manifest idiocies I've seen perpetrated under intellectual property law. It was always obvious to me, though, that Franken was riffing off Fox's tagline.</p>

<p>Would I be likely to confuse this riffing with a Fox endorsement of Franken's book? No, but then I'm smarter than the average cabbage.<br />
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