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      <description>John M. Ford writes:A comment someone sent to Neil about hoping there was a monument to Wodehouse in London somewhere...</description>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #1 from --kip</title>
         <description>comment from --kip on 30.Jan.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, thanks. Just woke the Spouse from her light slumber, who rushed into my office, filled with concern: "What's wrong? Are you okay?" --She was not so amused at my sheepish explanation.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  2:01 AM by --kip&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #2 from Avram</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel overly-intellectual just for getting that one. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  2:43 AM by Avram&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #3 from Jonathan Vos Post</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tlon time since I heard such a pun.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  3:07 AM by Jonathan Vos Post&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #4 from Carlos</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bifurcated.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  4:51 AM by Carlos&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #5 from Stuart Houghton</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*groan*  Bravo, Sir!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  5:10 AM by Stuart Houghton&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #6 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 30.Jan.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My small wail when I read that one startled Patrick and Liz and the intern, and my explanation was as sheepish as Kip's. It is good not to be alone.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  6:18 AM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #7 from BSD</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally, I get these things, or can figure them out, but this is just being obstinate. Now I feel dumb.</p>

<p>(Speaking of Dumb and Liz, remind her that <i>The Hand</i> was a fiasco. Thanks.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  7:41 AM by BSD&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #8 from Robert L</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE that title. BTW, this could work in NYC, too: on the south side of W. 35th St. between 9th and 10th Aves. there is an actual plaque stating that Nero Wolfe's town house once stood on that spot...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  9:27 AM by Robert L&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #9 from Keith</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too chuckled but I couldn't even begin to describe why to my grandmother. Even little Borges jokes make me happy. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  9:29 AM by Keith&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #10 from Derek Lowe</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes me want to sit down and have what I write turn out to be "The Code of the Woosters".</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004 10:05 AM by Derek Lowe&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #11 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BSD, what's that all about?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004 11:16 AM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #12 from Andrew Willett</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, if you're not careful you could sit down and eventually discover you've written "Pierre Menard."</p>

<p>Robert has given me an idea. I think the next plaque needs to commemorate the former site of Doctor Strange's Sanctum Sanctorum somewhere on Bleecker Street. I figure it must be somewhere near Perry or Charles. C'mon, who's with me?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004 11:37 AM by Andrew Willett&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #13 from David Moles</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there were more overlap between my Borges-reading friends and my Woodhouse-reading ones. Mr. Ford, write that story!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004 11:57 AM by David Moles&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #14 from Andrew Willett</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Of course, it could be worse. You could sit down and eventually realize that you've just posted something that completely misses the point of somebody else's joke.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004 12:20 PM by Andrew Willett&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #15 from Nancy Lebovitz</title>
         <description>comment from Nancy Lebovitz on 30.Jan.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorothy Heydt has put a lot of work into training the inhabitants of rec.arts.sf.fandom to answer questions about references instead of just making more jokes.....</p>

<p>That devastating Ford pun is a reference to the Borges story "Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius". There's a summary at http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jatill/175/SUMTlon.htm</p>

<p>I don't know whether there's an actual Ukbridge, or it's simply UK-bridge. </p>

<p>At this point, I'm also no longer absolutely sure that BSD really wants an explanation, or is posting a reference that I didhn't get.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004 12:49 PM by Nancy Lebovitz&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #16 from Erik Nelson</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure all the readers of this page would appreciate the H.G. Wells monument in Woking; a stainless steel Martian tripod towers over the shopping district. But all the Robin Hood thisandthat in Nottingham can make one say enough, already.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004 12:54 PM by Erik Nelson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #17 from Jonathan Vos Post</title>
         <description>comment from Jonathan Vos Post on 30.Jan.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone help me crack this short puzzle?  I really don't know the answer.  Never mind who asked me -- that story has too many Big Names.</p>

<p>What does this mean:</p>

<p><strong>LL&thePofH</strong></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  1:10 PM by Jonathan Vos Post&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #18 from pericat</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an Ukbridge. My employer has clients there.</p>

<p>They could be making it up, though, come to think of it.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  1:21 PM by pericat&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #19 from regyt</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>::snort:: I think I just fell in love with John M. Ford. And a little bit with everyone else here who reads Wodehouse and Borges. Frabjous!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  1:33 PM by regyt&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #20 from Dan Blum</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>
There is an Ukbridge. My employer has clients there.</blockquote>
<p>I can't find an Ukbridge in the UK - I think your clients are doing business in a typo (for "Uxbridge").
<blockquote>LL&thePofH</blockquote>
<p>With no context I'm afraid I get stuck on Superman's girlfriends.

</p></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  1:37 PM by Dan Blum&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #21 from PiscusFiche</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curses. This sounds suspiciously like a short story I just started. Except it's set in North Carolina and based off of Lee and I not finding a record store a weekend ago. Raleigh has been modifying itself too. Lee and I went to go <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/pixelfish/239723.html#cutid1" rel="nofollow">find tickets to the Henry Rollins show here</a>, and lo, the record store where we wanted to get them from was totally missing. No sign of it at all. Not even the building, as it was a two story building, and the row that was left was all single story. No signs, banners, placards, saying, "We've moved." No signs of anything missing actually. Just the entirely-not-there-at-all-ness of a missing record store. On top of this, the roads keep switching, and the stars swing about in a most disorderly fashion, so naturally, I had to write about it. (I'm still going to forge ahead though, because the damn thing is nearly written out now. Two acts of three.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  2:10 PM by PiscusFiche&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #22 from pericat</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I can't find an Ukbridge in the UK - I think your clients are doing business in a typo (for "Uxbridge").</i></p>

<p>It's Friday. I get to be dyslekic on Fridays. It's in my contract.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  2:31 PM by pericat&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #23 from language hat</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oy... the pain, the pain...</p>

<p>I say, old horse, I'm not quite sure how we got from Ukridge to Uxbridge, but I trust the Wodehousians here all recognize the name of Stanley Featherstonehaugh (pronounced Fanshaw) Ukridge, first encountered in <a href="http://wodehouse.ru/07.htm" rel="nofollow">Love Among the Chickens</a>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  3:02 PM by language hat&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #24 from Vicki</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaargh. I barely put my tea down in time. I should know better than to drink while reading something that is labeled as coming from Mike Ford.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  3:22 PM by Vicki&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #25 from Xopher</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I didn't get it at all.  Wodehouse but no Borges.  Still don't.  </p>

<p>But I made this comment years ago: Featherstonehaugh?  BoSh!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  3:38 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #26 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 30.Jan.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, I'll grant the difficult of posting an asterisk inside a square when ASCII-art spacing isn't an option. </p>

<p>I posted the first comment in this thread with a link to the story in it, but Patrick protested that I should give people a day or so to kick it around first, so I deleted the comment. Here's the thing itself, complete: <a href="http://www.its.caltech.edu/~boozer/etexts/tlon.html" rel="nofollow">Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius</a>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  6:35 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #27 from Brad DeLong</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>I feel overly-intellectual just for getting that one.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  7:45 PM by Brad DeLong&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #28 from BSD</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really did want an explanation, Avram just provided one. As to Liz and <i>The Hand</i> I swore to harass her about that forever. Good naturedly, of course.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 30, 2004  9:22 PM by BSD&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #29 from David Goldfarb</title>
         <description>comment from David Goldfarb on 31.Jan.04</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On rasseff the asterisk-in-square fairly quickly got abbreviated to [*].  The meme has done a little bit of spreading to other rec.arts.sf.* groups, although you can't guarantee outside of rasseff that the person of whom you're inquiring will understand it.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2004  4:07 AM by David Goldfarb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #30 from Robert L</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this also reminds me of the time I was reading Philip K. Dick's <i>Now Wait for Last Year.</i> At one point one of the characters goes to an address on Macomb St NW in the Washington, DC of the future. "Hey, that's where my friend Stephanie lives!" thought I. (She has since moved.) But that's what led to my learning that Stephanie's building was where Dick lived for a few years as a child.<br />
Love the Dr. Strange idea if you can figure out exactly where to put it.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2004 12:43 PM by Robert L&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #31 from Alan Bostick</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy Lebovitz:  <i>Dorothy Heydt has put a lot of work into training the inhabitants of rec.arts.sf.fandom to answer questions about references instead of just making more jokes.....</i>  </p>

<p>That speaks volumes about Dorothy Heydt, now, doesn't it.</p>

<p>Mike's pun went <i>completely</i> over my head.  But I would <i>never</i> ask for an explanation.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2004  1:05 PM by Alan Bostick&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, now I've read the story and I STILL don't get it...real a lot of Wodehouse, too.  What's all that got to do with Richard III?  (And what's a square with an asterisk signify?)</p>

<p>[sigh] Some of us just aren't cut out to swim with the big (lit) fish, I guess.</p>

<p>[goes and sits facing the corner wearing a tall, conical hat]</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2004  4:10 PM by Xopher&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #33 from Dave MB</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dorothy Heydt is one of the wonderful people<br />
who make r.a.sf.w worth reading (to the extent<br />
that it is).  Her suggestion is a good one --<br />
if you're posting an in-joke to a public forum,<br />
and you think the readers would be better off if<br />
they knew the punchline, isn't it better to give<br />
the game away.  After a suitable interval, of<br />
course, to give time for follow-on in-jokes.</p>

<p>I've had no success with LL&thePofH, I've<br />
only managed LR&theJofH plus the aforementioned<br />
Superman girlfriends.  The PofH that comes to <br />
mind is an RPofH.  I can't think of any way the<br />
LL could be Lazarus Long...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2004  6:51 PM by Dave MB&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Mike's pun went completely over my head.  But I would never ask for an explanation.</i></p>

<p>Why not?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2004  7:19 PM by David Goldfarb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xopher -- if the story were actually written, there would certainly be visits to Good Uncle Richard's sites (along with Arthur's and Lear's) on Ukridge's London tour.  "Of course the Tube is very low-ceilinged in places, as the King was, as you are aware, a hunchback."</p>

<p>Which concludes my contribution to the discussion.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2004 10:29 PM by John M. Ford&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #36 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it's worth, I'm both baffled by Alan's assertion that he would <em>"never</em> ask for an explanation", and vaguely annoyed by the Dorothy Heydt notion that we must all explain all the in-jokes lest some of the children feel left out.</p>

<p>Call me stupid (many people do!  it's evidently therapeutic!), but I don't see the harm in asking questions, nor do I see what's so terrible about people having in-jokes.  Jeez, everybody, grow up.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2004 12:02 AM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #37 from David Goldfarb</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my part -- at rather a risk of being too obvious here -- I found it metatextually amusing to ask someone to explain why he refuses to ask for explanations.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2004  1:05 AM by David Goldfarb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #38 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, BSD; but if Liz says it's irritating her, I will have to kill you. Sorry. Nothing personal about it. Every consulting editor at Tor has an in-house tracker, and she's mine. </p>

<p>David, it would be improper of me to say that Alan doesn't ask because his experience suggests that it's a bad idea, i.e. he's been trained; but he does, on reflection, Know Better; and if there's a more reliable consolation for getting older, I'd like to know what it is.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2004  1:12 AM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #39 from Robert L</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>For my part -- at rather a risk of being too obvious here -- I found it metatextually amusing to ask someone to explain why he refuses to ask for explanations.</i></p>

<p>Because then he may end up having to ask, as Byron did of Coleridge "explaining metaphysics to the nation," that "I wish he would explain his explanation."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2004  1:48 AM by Robert L&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #40 from qB</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More synchronicity, language hat! I've just finished reading <i>Love Among the Chickens</i> courtesy of the<a href="http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/search?amode=start&author=Wodehouse%2c%20P%2e%20G%2e%20" rel="nofollow">Project Gutenberg e-text</a>. </p>

<p>I shall remain silent on the subject of Borges on the grounds that I might incriminate myself.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2004  4:56 AM by qB&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #41 from Russell Martin</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2004 11:20 AM by Russell Martin&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #42 from Naomi Chana</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the advantages of living alone is that nobody need be disturbed by <i>my</i> whoops of laughter -- but I am obliged to this comment thread for reminding me where Stanley Ukridge had been traveling just prior to his irruption into Wodehouse's <i>oeuvre</i>.</p>

<p>Now I am pondering the extent to which <i>Love Among The Chickens</i> is derived from that famous remark of Baltasar Gracian that the stars were "chickens of the celestial acres" -- which Borges very correctly calls blasphemous -- and as such whether Wodehouse and Borges were related in even approximately the same way as Omar Khayyam and Edward Fitzgerald.</p>

<p>This is all helping immeasurably in keeping me from writing a very dull book review.  ;)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2004 12:09 PM by Naomi Chana&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #43 from language hat</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"It had always been my experience that, when Ukridge was around, things began to happen swiftly and violently, rendering meditation impossible."<br />
Which explains much of this comment thread.</p>

<p>Naomi: You mean Buenos Ayres, with a borrowed pipe?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2004  1:18 PM by language hat&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #44 from Alan Bostick</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TNH: <i>...and if there's a more reliable consolation for getting older, I'd like to know what it is.</i></p>

<p>I'm not sure it's universally reliable, but my own experience is that the sex gets better, too.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2004  3:05 PM by Alan Bostick&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>From correspondence -- comment #45 from Jonathan Vos Post</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the part in "The Aleph" where Jeeves and Wooster see the entire cosmos through an awkward place under the basement stairs, or maybe it was just Hugh Laurie's expression in the TV version.</p>

<p>And the bit where Jeeves shoves Spinoza through Borges' looking-glass, and then finds himself rerading his own obituary in the Anglo-American Cyclopedia, 1917 edition.</p>

<p>So he checks other dusty volumes of forgotten lore, including:</p>

<p>First Encyclopedia of Tlon; A General History of Labyrinths, by Silas Haslam; History of the Land Called Uqbar, also by Silas Haslam; and Lesbare und lesenswethe Bemerkungen uber das Land Ukkbar in Klein-Asien, by Johann Valentin Andrea; the title of the latter being read by Basil Fawlty after being hit on the head by the Moosehead and goosestepping in front of German tourist couple.</p>

<p>Of course, in "Very Good, Jeeves!" there is the sinister reference to Autumn Leaves by Gwendolen Moon, and also 'Twas on an English June by the same author, when it turns out at the end that Gwendolen Moon is really a pseudonym of Johann Valentin Andrea, to hint at the moons made of ice in the Hitler arcana.</p>

<p>Or is it fair to give spoilers for those who don't know that P. G. Wodehouse was in MI5, fighting the Machiavellin machinations of that blind "diplomat", the very Jorge Luis Borges who ran the Argentinian Operation for Professor Moriarty? Using "The Birds of the West Indies" by the actual James Bond as a cypher key?</p>

<p>Because, as we all know, James Bond was born in 1900, along Pine Street in Philadelphia. 89 years later, he died in Philadelphia, in Chestnut Hill. In between he had two careers, the first being a short one at the First Pennsylvania Bank. Imagine, James Bond as a bank teller. He couldn't imagine his whole life as that either. </p>

<p>So, he became an ornithologist at the Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia for 50 years. A renowned ornithologist, he knew more about birds in the Caribbean than anyone else, visiting 50 islands studying them. He wrote the definitive book, "The Birds of the West Indies." </p>

<p>Another author, who wants you to think that his name was Ian Fleming, who created the character 007, also spent considerable time in the West Indies. He learned of James Bond, the "birdman." He crossed paths with Bond, although Bond, a rather quiet, but very handsome man, did not know it. </p>

<p>A year later Bond was in Philadelphia, where he saw a review of his book about birds in a London newspaper that also mentioned the fictitious Bond 007. That's how he learned Fleming had "stolen" his name. </p>

<p>DC and Marvel are suing over this, I think.</p>

<p>And, to be sure, W. Somerset Maugham was the spymaster parodied by the writer who wants to be known as John Le Carre, who is actually John Ford.</p>

<p>And John Anson Ford had that other pseudonym: Robert Anson Heinlein....<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  2, 2004  6:36 PM by Jonathan Vos Post&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never suggested (and neither has Dorothy, afaik) that people who post obscure jokes are obligated to include explanations with the joke<br />
or even post them after the joke.</p>

<p>I'm promoting a policy of giving straight answers to people who ask for explanations.</p>

<p>Avram may have done a better thing by giving the explanation as an email rather than publically.<br />
</p>]]>
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