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From the wonderful Hitherby Dragons comes Night of the Antinomian, which is kind of like those cheesy old movies about giant radioactive rabbits or ants or spiders, only different:
“It was, perhaps, a mistake,” Dr. Oboli admits.“Pardon?” asks General McCoy.
“It might have been a mistake. To harvest the genetic material of Johannes Agricola, and bring him back to life—fifty times his normal size!”
“Yes,” General McCoy says flatly. “Yes, it might have been.”
“I honestly didn’t think he’d ever escape the lab,” Dr. Oboli protests.
“Spilled milk, Dr. Oboli. Spilled milk. Tell us what we’re up against.”
“It’s probably the greatest threat ever to face humanity,” Dr. Oboli frets. “Historically, antinomians and humans have been able to coexist only because we were just as big as the antinomians and could kill them if we had to. But Johannes Agricola is already dead, and he’s also very large.”
“Large enough,” General McCoy asks, “to physically fling the saved into Heaven?”
“Exactly,” says Dr. Oboli. “No one is safe.”
“What about the sinners?” asks General McCoy, practically. “I mean, aren’t they safe? What if we buy some kind of golden calf from a military supplier and everyone worships it until the problem is resolved?”
“It won’t work,” Dr. Oboli moans. “Antinomians aren’t like ordinary Christians. They don’t care about sin any more than they care about good works. To Johannes Agricola, you’re either saved or damned from the moment that you’re born. It’s a doctrine of arbitrary judgment!”
I’ve always thought horror writers underestimated the potential usefulness of the doctrine of Election.
Elsewhere in the news:
You know from otherkin? People who believe that they are, in some spiritual or genetic or reincarnational sense, members of a nonhuman species, possibly more than one of them? It’s sort of like people with transgender issues feeling that they were (f.i.) born into a male body, but are somehow really female; only otherkin variously feel that they’re really elves, fairies, pixies, furries, selkies, angels, dragons, vamp[i][y]res, shapeshifters, phoenixes, Greys, or one of a wide variety of were-animals.
They’re not without a sense of humor about their condition. As one website says, in the course of discussing the various models otherkin have come up with to explain their felt condition:
There is also, of course, the possibility that we are all quietly insane. This has naturally been pointed out by a significant number of people, on the bizarre assumption that this could not possibly have occurred to anyone claiming the label. Of course it has. We’re insane, not stupid.
A charmingly inevitable event has occurred in the otherkin community, at a site called Molatar’s Castle:
This site is dedicated to spreading the Gospel in the werewolf and furry communities. It is my hope that many trans-species people will accept Jesus as their Savior through this ministry. …
You cannot make yourself righteous and holy on your own. Only Jesus can do that for you. If you are dissatisfied with attempting to be good through your own deeds and find yourself still enslaved to sin, then its time to choose Jesus as your Savior. If you are interested in becoming a Christian, please click on the salvation link to the left. Dear visitor, if you are trans-species, I can sympathize with you.
I too know the shame and anger about being trapped in a powerless and ugly human body. If you desire a shape-shift, please click on the P-shift essay link to your left and I will guide you. If you desire clarification of God’s Word, please click on the salvation, essay, and bibliography links provided at left.
This is Version 2.1 of Molatar’s Castle. I’ve re-written parts of my essay on vampires. I’ve removed some links to sites I no longer approve of. Much of the changes are invisible; I’ve been cleaning up the code to make this site faster. This dragon’s been working hard. …
I hope that by visiting my website that you will have learned something valuable. If you get Born Again because of this site, that would be even better.
It was bound to happen.
One of the reasons I’ve never believed satanic ritual abuse narratives—the ones where the supposed victims are always being “groomed” (they always use that word) to become the high priest or priestess of the group—is that their stories are devoid of normal human complications. Nobody ever develops chest pains, and has to be gotten out of their ceremonial robes and rushed to an ER. Nothing funny ever happens. Nobody ever fluffs a complex ritual. The air conditioning never breaks down. There are no theological or procedural disputes, no arguments about bookkeeping, no rebellious music committees. Satanic covens are never incapacitated because the potato salad sat out too long before the pre-ceremony setup session potluck. But most tellingly of all, no satanic group is ever riven by dissension because a couple of its members have started selling Amway and they won’t shut up about it.
Real people aren’t one-dimensional, and vice-versa. If you form a community around some shared interest, sooner or later someone in it is going to get Born Again and start preaching Jesus—unless it’s a born-again group to start with, in which case someone will begin selling Amway, or get into BDSM. It’s one of those things human beings do.
(Both links via Patrick.)
"Even when they're dragons" was a wonderful closer. Why did you take it out?
You liked it? I was thinking it was too pat. How did you come to notice I'd changed it?
...Oh, that's funny. I was just about to say "Okay, I'll go put it back," when I got an IM from Patrick saying "Your first comment asks a question about a belated edit you made, but you were right." This is instant feedback indeed.
If Molatar is an otherkin dragon, wouldn't he be Hatched Again?
I assume (without looking at the site) that Molatar has arguments for why Jesus died for the sins of all species, not just humans -- and also arguments for why that salvation excludes dogs, horses, slugs, planaria, gonococcus, etc.
Closest I come to this one is telling people of a Shamanic bent that my power animal is a velociraptor. (It isn't, it's a panther, but they get the joke.)
Teresa: I don't think it's too pat. Strikes me as just the right amount of good-natured snark. Mileages will vary, of course.
Will: Good one! Clever lad....
One of the reasons I’ve never believed satanic ritual abuse narratives—the ones where the supposed victims are always being “groomed” (they always use that word) to become the high priest or priestess of the group—is that their stories are devoid of normal human complications....
Thanks for the laugh, Teresa. I just did a mental checklist on my coven (Wiccan, not Satanic): Chest pains, check. Wardrobe Emergency, multiple, check. Potluck fiasco, check. High Action Multiple-Partner Melodrama You Really Want To Miss, check. Mid-ritual smoke detector goodness, check. Evangelical vegan vitamin salesman, check.
We can't be a cult, we're too normal. *chuckle*
Maybe if you get your Amway supplier to carry handcuffs and whips with little crosses on them...
We had a ritual once (Wiccan, like Thena), where the person leading the breathing meditation said "Breathe...and when you feel you've breathed enough...stop." This broke us all up into giggles and we had to start again. We later realized that it's actually excellent life advice, but not for the short term...
Also, ask me sometime why the words 'the plumber is coming' are my coven's equivalent of "Yngve is a louse!"
Molatar's Castle is one of an increasing number of incidents leading me to suspect that the religious right has been infiltrated by crack Discordian monkeywrencher cabal who are planting ridiculous stories like this in order to discredit enemies of the goddess. With this, the kerfuffle about 'Erototoxins' (surely plucked straight from the mind of R.A. Wilson) and the existence of Jerry Falwell, the project seems to be making great progress. :)
p.s. Hitherby Dragons is great!
I've long suspected that I'm actually a Gelatinous Cube born into a human body.
"It was said, sneeringly, by someone that if a clam could conceive of God, it would conceive of Him in the shape of a great, big clam. Naturally. And if God has revealed Himself to clams, it could only be under conditions of perfect clamhood, since any other manifestation would be wholly irrelevant to clam nature." -- Dorothy L Sayers
In honor of the inclusive nature of the harvest of salvation, I'll take my Eucharist with butter.
But then,
If:
Not being able to breath underwater or fly is frustrating to you,then you just might be... an otherkin. Hmmm...A part of your body changes form and/or color,
Computers often malfunction, act up, and do lots of unusual things in your presence, causing your coworkers to ask you to "stand over there, please" and causing your company's resident computer tech many hours of heartache,
You are fascinated with language, linguistics, theology, anthropology, slang, subculture and the madness of crowds,
The books that speak the greatest truths to you are found in the Fantasy/SF section,
D'oh. breath --> breathe. Should have left it French.
I'm not a dragon, but I can do the body-language.
I have a recurring weird delusion myself, it's the delusion that I can lie on my back and float about four feet off the ground and move backwards, head first. I have it most strongly when my leg is bad and I'm lying down, when it would be terribly useful to be able to float off the bed and to the bathroom, or to reach my book or whatever, without needing to use my leg. The thing that distinguishes this for me from imagination or dream-flying is that I have a real physical kinetic memory of doing it, the same as I have a memory of running, my muscles know what it feels like. I know what I need to do to move forward that way, and how being suspended feels, how I go around corners and everything, how I cope with not being able to see where I'm going. I have for years. (I find this delusion more irritating than anything.) The other day I finally figured this out -- it's not a muscle memory of a past life with antigravity or levitation skills, it's a muscle memory of swimming on my back. I can in fact really do it, I just need the room to be full of water first. This realization was actually a tremendous relief, inconvenient as flooding the apartment would be.
But anyway, this delusion has always helped me understand people who know they ought to have a tail or fur or be of some other gender. And it's not as if it hurts anyone.
I've just thought of a lovely theologically arguable justification for those otherkin. There are various things mentioned (and not very well described) in the bible as being in Heaven. Anything mentioned -- and this definitely includes dragons -- could have been in human form when alive on Earth and then had its true form restored in Heaven.
Besides, when the saints come marching in, is there any good reason not to include weresaints in that number?
"Yngve is a louse!"
trapped in an ugly, powerless human body?
In Native American beliefs, shape shifting is very prevalent in most every tribe. The Orenda is the Great Spirit that connects all living things, one to the other, including man. Since we are comprised of the same energy, it would only stand to reason that the energy could be manipulated to resemble any other creature that shares that connection. Of course this accomplishment is most commonly “witnessed” after much consumption of peyote.
As far as were-animals are concerned, most of the gods/goddesses are more animal than man to begin with. So it would stand to reason that people could be born with animal traits (perhaps the Orenda wasn’t properly manipulated to make them fully human when they were conceived) or even resemble animals as they matured.
Of course, Christianity is still slowly overshadowing the old beliefs, but by and large it hasn’t really spread like wildfire as one might expect. Perhaps the first brushes with Christianity left a bad taste in their mouths or maybe the old beliefs just seem to make more sense when you’re living on the Res. It is as if the elders are still waiting patiently for the Nunne’hi to come and save the day. If they fully accept Jesus, then they must admit that there are no Nunne’hi. If they don’t exist, then there is no hope that life will be any different than the one they live now.
I hung out with some otherkin for a while. Even managed to convince myself I was one for a while (a dragon, if you’re curious). Then woke up one morning and realized, yeah, the whole concept is pretty gosh darn crazy. It's a condition that, if caught early enough, is surprisingly easy to get over, minus the embarrassment of realizing that you went around claiming some pretty outrageous things.
Groups like this tend to be pretty serious when in ritual mode but otherwise have the standard comic/tragic realness of human existence, which only underscores how silly otherkin behavior can be. And prostheletizing to them is silliness cubed.
Then there are the people who believe they are "walk-ins" -- taken over by beings from another dimension, universe, or planet. They encourage people to "feel as if they don't belong here" and to embrace the "otherness" of their secondary personality. Borderline personality disorder deluxe -- take two, they're on special today!
There's a group of them (getting larger by the year) here in Candia, NH, running a "holistic alchemical school" for massage, Reiki, etc -- The Dovestar Institute. They expanded a while back and I found they're even on Hilton Head Island, SC, where they've wormed their way into the hospice center. I was suprised to find one of them assigned by hospice to be a "sitter" for my father, who is on hospice care.
Not that I think the walk-in believer is going to convert my father, but you have to wonder about a group that actively encourages people to engage/embrace clearly borderline personality behavior. And they're hospice workers for the elderly. Egads.
In more seriousness, I have a friend who is otherkin.
(Side note: It seems odd how "otherkin" here indicates a belief, as opposed to a fact. I dunno, it sounds more accurate to say "She believes she's otherkin; she thinks she's an elf" than "she's otherkin; she thinks she's an elf." That could be just me.)
It's a comparatively harmless form of selectively applying reality, if you ask me.
Stuart: Now you've got me envisioning a SJGames "Illuminati!" card for the Otherkin. Weird alignment, one arrow in/one out, power 2, resistance 4, income 1...
Here's another question. Would an otherkin who was (thought he was?) a phoenix be Burn Again?
Hmm. If future persons do actually undergo successful xenotransplants, I can see a twist in the 'otherkin' idea, and a real flowering of the myth.
Even if the tissues could/are tweaked so as not to be rejected (ie, proteins not attacked by the body's immune system), they were still once in the body of a different species. Fodder, fodder ...
Thanks for this entry. Now I have a Google search term that will require attention the next time I want to procrastinate :-)
Has anyone tried "Schoogle" (Google Scholar) yet?
And one who thinks he's a professional assassin is Bourne Again?
Xopher, I should bash you for that.
Susan: The guys I work with, mostly postdocs and grad students in a psych lab, say it rocks because they can find their own papers. Another friend says it rocks on principle. I tend to think the same.
Xopher: Taken by a Unix shell. (The Bourne SHell, bsh, became the Bourne Again SHell, bash.)
See also The Multiple Code, a Geek Code for those with multiple personalities where the possibilities include some of your personalities being dinosaurs, vampires, aliens, etc.
It's interesting what this discussion links -- DPD-evocative themes dominate the central narrative of Hitherby (R. Borgstrom has said so), and the author mentions, at times, what seems to be personal experience with DPD.
There might be something worth saying about certain doctrines relating to transubstantiation and its spiritual equivalents, but that's Not My Religion, so I'll keep quiet as I know far less than many here.
I am with you on the satanic coven thing. I wrote a short story about a satanic priest who lost faith after an acolyte botched a virgin sacrifice ritual. He'd finally presided over the ultimate ritual and then suffered from an "Is that all there is?" midlife crisis.
botched a virgin sacrifice ritual
"Only the girl isn't really a virgin. No god wants some broad who is inexperienced."
--Edward D. Wood, The Love of the Dead
Is there a support group for medium-sized human beings trapped inside a large human's body? I feel like I should really be about 6 inches shorter....
Dan Lewis wrote:
But then,
A part of your body changes form and/or color,
... and all I could think of was a certain part of the body, which is clearly conclusive proof that roughly half the species consists of otherkin.
Susan, I've played around with Schoogle a bit. It's got potential but it can't beat having access to an academic library's range of databases, especially if your library has federated searching, which can search all of them at once. (We're getting it next semester.) Heck, even your local public library most likely has access to a range of databases paid for by the state that can beat it. There's been a lot of discussion on various library blogs about it, and no, we won't be going out of business because of Google Scholar, thank you.
I tried Schoogling Tolkien, and it will be useful for a paper I'm writing to have a list of what papers cite certain of his papers. But when I looked at what papers have cited "The Lord of the Rings," it's all computer science papers. Not very useful for my purposes at all. And most of the citations do not lead to the actual article -- for that you need access to a library. Then I Schoogled myself (sounds even naughtier than googling myself), and found only one of my publications listed, buried among all the papers by the Other Janet Croft, who writes about cardiac arrest and related topics. So what we can assume from that is that Schoogle has only a very limited selection of databases to search, heavy on computer science and medicine but light on literature and library science.
Like Google itself, Google Scholar can supplement your research but can't substitute for actually using your library. Although I can't deny that it has potential and I look forward to seeing it grow. If it gets to the point where it can serve as a citation analysis tool for the humanities I'll be delighted.
My favorite part of Molotar's site is his screed against RPGs (which smacks of being rejected from gaming groups a few too many times). The best part is the final paragraph of the rant:
I no longer play roleplaying games. I don't need them. I have the Holy Spirit to give me miraculous powers. I have the Father to supply all my needs. I have Jesus to change me into a dragon and create neat lizard people to assist me in heaven. I don't need the fantasy because I have the reality.
I recently saw the gamer doco Uber Goober, wherein one of the representatives of the Christian Anti-D&D movement is a minister-type who has a radio show. At one point, he started going on about a gamer guy he knew who could astrally project himself into movie theatres and watch movies for free.
I think the minister would get along very well with Molatar, oddly.
xeger, that was my immediate thought as well.
Will, thanks for explaining (inadvertently, from the timing) Patrick's comment, which was tremendously funny but which I didn't get.
Btw, an otherkin evangelical who thinks he's a postwar West German politician is Bonn Again. And one who, with JFK, says "Ich bin ein Berliner" is Bun Again. (OK, a berliner isn't really a bun. Work with me.) And one who thinks he's nothing but a program in the Matrix is Bin Again (properly .bin Again, but hey). Did we do skeletons? Bone Again? Famous bear-killing frontiersmen? Boone Again?
Yes, there are more. But I'm pretty sure that if you people weren't all lib'rulz, I'd have earned the Death Penalty by now, so I'll stop while a plea bargain is still possible.
And a trampolinist would be Boing Again.
Which would make Cory Doctorow BoingBoing Again.
No! Otherkin Evangelicals who think they're Cory Doctorow! It's just too good. "So best," as Wonkette would say.
Stefan, if you're a gelatinous cube I can only advise you to stay out of Utah.
Jo, I know that one. In my dreams I don't do a lot of outdoor flying, but I've always been able to scramble up through the air and skim along at ceiling level, pushing against corners and high bits of molding with my feet. It's exactly like swimming.
My own otherkinnish weirdness, if I believed in such things, is that I've got a voice that speaks no known language babbling away in my head. Sometimes I can hear it more clearly, sometimes less. When it's most obtrusive, I feel like I'm just a hair away from being able to vocalize what it's saying, though I never quite get there.
It sounds like the voice of the standard portrait of Diderot: reasonable, knowledgeable, worldly; at once morally serious and very slightly amused. At times it sounds like it's commenting on events of the moment, but usually it's just rolling out one of its inscrutable monologues. It's never angry. Oh, and once in a while it sounds like it's quoting a proverb.
What significance do I assign to this? None. I'm a human being, if a somewhat idiosyncratic specimen. What I conclude is that the range of potential human behavior includes having one's speech centers spin out an infinite supply of proprietary Lorum Ipsum.
Teresa, I never knew we shared that particular trait. Except mine is frequently angry, and what voice it is varies from day to day, or even moment to moment. Also it likes to list things. What the lists are I don't know, but I'm pretty sure they aren't the ingredients for a cake, if you know what I mean.
I consider it undifferentiated expression, the speaking of things which cannot be spoken of. And I have a ritual where it comes out, out loud. If you want to be able to get yours to speak with your actual mouth, I'd just like to say that I've taught others to do this, that you obviously have a head start, and that the technique I use is completely religion-free. Or at least religion-independent; you have to believe that your mind has bits that aren't ordinarily accessible, that's about it.
I like to tell people that I hear voices, but if they're telling me to kill people I'd never know, because they don't speak any language I understand. I am, of course, joking.
For completeness:
Would one who thinks they're a cow be Barn Again? A bear, Beorn Again? A C++ template, Bjarne Again? A copyright lawyer, Berne Again? I guess that last is me -- I'm not really a copyright lawyer, but I play one at work.
(still laughing at xopher+pnh)
...a Scottish child? (Bairn again)
...a tennis star/member of ABBA? (Bjorn again)
...aged cartoon industrialist? (Burns again)
If you hear unknown languages muttering about in your head, be very careful about doing any telekinesis. (It's a sign of warlockry in Lawrence Watt-Evans's Ethshar books, the more recent of which have been published by Tor, after all.)
My favorite line (so far) from Molatar's Castle:
getting Born Again is a wonderful experience and worth the miniscule intellectual effort...which he (naturally) recommends as a first step prior to undergoing a permanent shape-shift.
Zvi: ISTR reading on the L-Space Web that there's an Abba cover band called Bjorn Again...
Glen -- and couldn't be bothered spell-checking (oo, spells!) to avoid misspelling 'minuscule'.
I've had that unknown languages in my head, speaking to me and almost but not quite understanding. But that was on 500 mcg.
My flying dreams, what few I've had, always turn into falling dreams, and I wake up very disoriented.
A very small percentage of people who take SSRIs have auditory hallucinations. Since my body likes to be an outlier, I have them. Mostly I hear music, but occasionally I hear people talking. Always, they are just at the edge of hearing so that I can't quite understand what they're saying, but I don't think it's because they're speaking an unknown language. The cadences are definitely English.
MKK
Let me clarify. The "voice" in my head (I can't speak for Teresa) is heard the same way you hear a song you like (or hate!) playing in your head. It's not quite an auditory hallucination, in other words. I have "visions" the same way. I can always tell the difference between something I'm actually seeing with my eyes, and something I'm "seeing" with my inner eye, visual cortex, whatever. The only exception so far was "false light" after a very extended period of sitting in some VERY intense darkness.
I guess the difference is that I hear music I've never heard before (and write some of it down), hear words that have never been spoken in my hearing (or anyone's), and see things that have never happened, even on a movie screen. So the usual "vivid memory" explanation doesn't hold water, but I don't really have a deep need to analyze the experience.
And with late 70s tennis as your religion, it's Bjorne Again.
Ah, the Otherkin business. Have a friend who overly identifies as a dragon, in particular with his boyfriend, which caused unusual and unexpected troubles when I tried to run a "kill the dragon" plotline in a D&D game.
Then I run into far too many furries who are going around and saying "Mew" at things. My general thought when I encounter this is "If you're really a kitten, let's see you eat a bug and then lick your ass."
But then Furry kitten behavior is at a disjoint from actual kitten behavior. Ditto with all the types who say "I'm a wolf" and then act hyper and attempt to make wolf sounds at any available dogs or coyotes, who look askance at the insane human. Contrawise, I'm not a wolf, but I am a dog owner, and do know how to howl the particular notes which will get canines to join in or answer in response.
Still chuckling about the satanists. Whenever I hear one of those recollected memories stories, my main thought is that it's small wonder that the satanists haven't taken over the world with them grooming such nebishes for the top of the priesthood.
Night of the Antinomian was, as a historical note, partly inspired by Making Light---I had encountered the concept before, in a family member's critique of her Calvinist mother, but I think it was the recent post Strict Orthodoxy here that gave me the term and started me thinking about it.
Also, hi! I've been reading since February or so, thanks to a heads-up from Catie Murphy. ^_^
Xopher, you're only safe because I am not the Law. (If you're wondering, yes, that means I support the death penalty for certain things, though for punning I generally would only sentence a good noodle flogging, which sounds vaguely obscene now that I think about it.)
I get voices in my head, but usually they're my characters. Occasionally they talk to each other, even when living in completely different worlds.
What? What? Why are you all looking at me like that?
On the subject of otherkin, see Outcast Otherkin: "Look, whatever you believe is cool. Just allow us to make fun of you for it. "
I've been swimming with a Masters team here in NYC for about ten years now; it seemed very natural to me, therefore, when sometime this summer I started having flying dreams that used the butterfly stroke to get me around.
If you fancied yourself an Otherkin Ghostbuster, would you need to be Born Egon?
Andrew Willett, I sentence thee to a flogging of 75 strokes with a wet vermicelli.
Jon,
Amazing link, particularly this:
now, I'm not so sure
I've been thinking about my true otherkin self, perhaps I'm deluded?
I mean, sure, those things that mark me as vibratorkin are still there, but lately, I've been dreaming about things. Blue things. Craving red berries, seeking wisdom from bearded old men, fearing being devoured by cannabalistic monks who live with cats and create evil women. Yes, I suspect I am smurfkin, as this girl's cousin is elfkin. I too believe smurfs are real, as he believes in Middle Earth. I too feel alienated, different, alone, and I'm not even a 15 year old who shall be deeply embarrased by having this brought up years later!
Perhaps someone here can astral project my way and check out my dreams tonight? Surely, there must be some other outcast who can help me in my quest for self knowledge?
'Tis worth noting that there is evidence that the brain structures of transgendered folks are, in fact, not in accord with their external genitalia, and that when they go on hormones their brain function improves (because it's being submerged in the chemistry that suits its structure better).
So it doesn't strike me so much as a "somehow", but as a "we know how already, because we can point at the different brain structures on a CAT scan, what we don't know yet is how that happens".
As to otherkin and multiplicity and similar things: I don't, as a general rule, think of any of the various metaphors people use to systematise their experiences are intrinsically sillier than others. Some folks adopt certain systems in response to a feeling of alienation or a need to feel special or different; others just find them, y'know, functional.
(I am, as a general rule, as much an agnostic about whether or not these systems function because they're factual or because they're a convenient metaphorical shorthand or because they're a useful thought-hack or some other reason as I am about the nature of the divine.)
The functional folks who use these structures tend to be much less visible than the wacked-out ones, for a number of reasons probably easily extrapolatable. The functional ones are also more likely to have the "we're insane, not stupid" sensahuma about things, in my experience, and I consider that a reasonable rough guideline for which folks I'll wind up getting along with.
And if you think you're a Klingon, you'd be Dorn Again.
The last time I thought I heard voices just out of reach in my head, it turned out that I needed to replace the flapper in the guest bathroom toilet.
The voice in my head since 2 Jan 2004 speaks in full equations. It almost, but not quite, has my accent. It speaks most clearly when I'm very short of sleep, and my critical faculties are weak. And sometimes in my dreams. So I write the equations down, upon awakening, or before crashing into the arms of Morpheus, submit them, get four dozen published, and wonder exactly what's going on. Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
Does that mean that I'm a Mathkin? Inside every body there's a multidimensional hyperspace recursion struggling to get out?
Fortunately, I'm paid at least part time to be an Adjunct Math Professor. They don't actually mind my doing "research" so long as it doesn't interfere with my classroom behavior, which is rather well-regarded.
However, the borders of reality have begun to dissolve. My students, on their very exams, have struggled with Eldrich Equations not found in any terrestrial textbook, sprung from my fevered brow. And some students have gotten the right answers. And some of them, poor souls, have begun to do their own "research." Even now, one of the senior Architecture students is designing a building based on my twisted take on Chaos Theory. I predict that, once it is built, some people will go in, and never be seen again. *cue theremin*
I have that voice, too, and its tone is similar to that of Teresa's (perhaps slightly more childish and/or mad--but if mad, mad thinking it's being perfectly reasonably, and slightly condescending to boot); however, it's not as if it's speaking another language; it's more like it's speaking English with all the actual phonemes edited out, so that it retains only cadence and tone. I hear it most clearly when I am trying to do math (something it neither helps nor hinders as far as I can tell).
I also have a memory that I thought for a while was from a past life, until I described it to my parents and they noted a striking similarity to the famous anti-Goldwater "daisy ad," which I must have seen replayed in a documentary when I was an infant or small child. I must have been very young, because in the memory it is not someone else counting petals--I am counting them myself. And then the bomb goes off.
Since it hasn't been said yet: Hello, Rebecca! You're just in time to remind me how far behind I am in my Hitherby reading. Alas, the world is full of shiny things.
(And - if you'll permit me the moment of fanboy obeisance - the handful of weekends I spent two summers ago as the Viscount of Alternatives are some of the finest hours I've spent round a coffee table. I had to stop and go make Shakespeare, but that's the way of things. Nonetheless - well done, well done.)
NelC writes: "Is there a support group for medium-sized human beings trapped inside a large human's body? I feel like I should really be about 6 inches shorter...."
Hm. I suspect my head is sized for someone 6 inches taller than my 5'9ish.
Marilee: "The last time I thought I heard voices just out of reach in my head, it turned out that I needed to replace the flapper in the guest bathroom toilet."
My dishwasher in Chicago used to make a noise at one moment in the cycle which sounded to me like it was saying my name, "Jon".
Darkhawk: "I don't, as a general rule, think of any of the various metaphors people use to systematise their experiences are intrinsically sillier than others." Wise words.
Which doesn't mean Don't Laugh. What it does mean is, as R. A. Lafferty put it: "The opposite of 'serious' isn't 'funny.' The opposite of both 'serious' and 'funny' is 'sordid.'"
For a while, when my command of the languages in question was better than it is now, I used to muse over important decisions by speaking aloud to myself in three languages. It was a great thinking strategy - the language structures meant that each issue was approached differently.
It also meant that people crossed the street to avoid me.
Hey, Lennox. Good to see you here.
I wonder how much of the 'otherkin' delusion is a product of the 'everyone is special and unique' educational philosophy. Yeah, no one is exactly like anyone else and few of the differences show on the outside, but that doesn't mean we need internal aliens or wolves or elves to explain why we don't fit in perfectly. (Does anyone fit in perfectly? Somehow, I doubt it.)
My own internal voice occasionally pipes up with a running third person description of what I'm doing. This is only annoying when it becomes sarcastic.
Rebecca, Catie has a lot to answer for. It's her fault I read here.
Oh, voices inSIDE the head. Well I get those too, doesn't everyone? In one round of treatment for depression (before we had SSRIs) the analyst had me take a Minnesota Multi-Phasic Inventory. When I checked that yes I did hear voices in my head, it got me a lot of attention very quickly. I hold conversations in my head with various people, real, fictional, and legendary, all the time. I wonder if I could ever learn meditation -- it seems to me my brain has to be busy all the damn time.
MKK
Tayefeth wrote:
My own internal voice occasionally pipes up with a running third person description of what I'm doing. This is only annoying when it becomes sarcastic.
Heh. I've always called that the 'censor'. The voice that pipes up and says things like "Cars are real" and "No matter how much you think you can, you can't fly" - or "It's really a bad idea to say "Yup, that's right - I've got a machine gun in this violin case" even if the security guy at the airport's already made a joke about taking violins to Chicago"
You liked it? I was thinking it was too pat. How did you come to notice I'd changed it?
I noticed because the line made me laugh, and not in a derisive way. My laugh was a recognition that we live in an interesting world. A few minutes later, I decided I wanted to read it again and noticed the line was gone.
Obviously, I thought it was the just the right amount of pat.
Also, if you believe you're really Fran Tarkenton, you have obviously Blown a Game.
MKK: Oh, voices inSIDE the head. Well I get those too, doesn't everyone?
I do. Mostly they sing. Or play music. They're not very good. And they mumble.
Jon: My dishwasher in Chicago used to make a noise at one moment in the cycle which sounded to me like it was saying my name, "Jon".
I used to have one that did just that very thing exactly. You never answered, though.
Garden of Eden otherkin: Bared Again.
My voice tends to jabber on in the general tone of a cranky old man. Sometimes, when it's less cranky, it gets a touch of the old sage about it, like it's imparting the wisdom of the ages, only in utter babble. The thing is, it seems to know it's utter babble and pleased as hell.
Anyway, I staggered sideways when I read Snow Crash, with the people speaking in glossolalia, which is really human Ur-language related to Sumarian. Got me thinking about the babbling old man in my head.
The Otherkin self-identification with the same list of rather pedestrian power animals (wolf, tiger, dragon, phoenix) puts me in mind of Lady Pixie Moondrip's Random Craft Name Generator. It also makes me wonder if I'll ever meet anyone who fancies themselves a stoat or a catoblepas.
It likely has something to do with the number of people who, on hearing of reincarnation, decide they're Cleopatra reborn, rather than Grover Cleveland's barber.
I don't hear voices in my head--at least, not when I'm not reciting something in my head.
Though I don't do much of that either. I tend to recite out loud, either in a low voice to myself or--if I'm alone--louder. Especially with books or writings I find particularly good. So I guess it might look like I'm walking down the street talking to voices only I can hear, but I'm not.
I'm a fox in my dreams. She only appears when I'm under stress, and the dream is always the same: I'm being chased by a mob with torches and I keep falling down, when suddenly I realize that I can do better on all fours anyway. I can feel my tail grow, and my ears, and everything becomes very clear, especially smells. And I run and run and they can't catch me. It's exhilarating and a little frightening because once or twice I've woken up with bruised palms and soles. But I'm always much more centered and able to deal with whatever was stressing me.
Keith, I've always thought it would be fascinating to be able to reproduce the language I hear in my head and compare it to others'--I've flirted with the idea of an ur-language.
My take on the whole otherkin thing is that it is something a lot of 'out of place' youngsters latch on to because they, for some reason, feel out of step with the world, and are looking for a reason why. In my particular case, that seems to be a big factor in why I started looking into it (although this was long before I knew the Internet existed) - it wasn't until nearly a decade later that I found out I have many characteristics of Asperger's Syndrome, which explained quite a lot about why I felt out of step with the world! Another young person I knew into the otherkin thing ended up being diagnosed with schizophrenia.
Otherwise, I take a similar agnostic view to Darkhawk's (which was most excellently worded).
It also makes me wonder if I'll ever meet anyone who fancies themselves a stoat or a catoblepas.
Kevin, I did once encounter a young lady online who fancied her otherkin self to be a cockroach - and was serious about it. Well, as serious as one could be - she was a cheerfully strange person about everything.
Personally, I've always believed I was a transwealthual, a rich person born into the life of a poor person. I believe this condition can only be allieviated by having skilled surgeons graft large amount of money onto my bank account.
I'm like Will Frank: I don't get voices either. I do fairly often talk to myself and answer back (e.g., when grocery shopping: "David, you know full well that you ought not to buy more chocolate chip Pop-Tarts." "Yeah, and I'm going to anyway." "I know. -Sigh-.") and I have a vague sort of sense that these are different facets of my personality talking to each other -- but there is a strong sense that it's all me, part of one identity.
Jo's story about swimming triggered a very minor revelation. I remember when I was young being in a store and seeing an item on a high shelf and knowing what it would be like to levitate up and take a closer look. I'd never made the connection before, but it was the same sensation as being at the bottom of a swimming pool and bobbing up to the surface.
I was going to say that my dreams of flying aren't much like swimming, but now that I think about it, I'm not sure that's true. The flying is a lot like gliding through water just after having pushed off of a wall. That explains why I rarely get much speed or altitude; my flying dreams are very little like comic-book flight at all.
I've had the sort of "voices" Marilee describes -- one thing I've learned in the last dozen years is that home ownership leads to developing basic plumbing skills! Similarly, when I hear voices that don't quite resolve into words, it sometimes means I've left a TV or radio on in another room. (Or that the Very Loud Neighbors -- recently moved, thank Deity-of-your-choice -- were doing something.)
Then again, as part of my convoluted religious background, I was part of a charismatic prayer group at my then-parish and learned to "speak in tongues", a skill I still practice occasionally, if only in the bathtub. That combined with a hot bath can be very relaxing!
TNH's namesake, Teresa of Avila, had some interesting and wise things to say in The Interior Castle about auditory hallucinations. It's been a while since I've read it, though, so I'm not sure I could quote it adequately. IIRC, it was along the lines of "mostly harmless."
I've had the "flying" dreams too, but not for a long time; I used to have them quite often when I was in my late teens and early twenties. In my case it was more like "walking" in a swimming pool, long effortless strides in a buoyant substance, only it was air and not water, or my legs moved but didn't touch the floor more than one step in twelve or so, and, like Teresa, I pushed against ceilings or furniture for momentum.
Never had the urge to be "otherkin." I *did* have an imaginary horse at the age other kids had imaginary friends, but that may have been influenced by too many cowboy shows on TV -- I wanted to be Roy Rogers, not Trigger.
How is it, by the way, that I have not come across Hitherby Dragons erenow? Someone's falling down on their obligation to point me at this kind of thing. Oh, well, going through its archives will be a project for idle hours in the next couple of weeks....
Sorry, David. I've brought it up a few times on here before, but never in an Open Thread "hey everyone look at this wonderfully cool thing" sort of way.
Jo: I know your swimming/flying experience very well. My childhood swimming was seasonal (I'd swim for hours and hours every day in the summer and then not at all otherwise) and I spent much of my Septembers having feelings like yours.
I'm still fairly sensitive to ocean currents - if I spend much of a day in or on or near the ocean, say at the boardwalk, I'll feel like the current's moving me back and forth for about three days after.
Never heard any voices or any such things as folks have been describing, though, nor have I ever thought I was an animal, person of another gender, alien, etc. trapped in my own body. I think my only odd experience of the sort is the definable pressure I feel around electronic devices that've been left on for too long. I'd rather assumed everyone felt this, but too many of my friends have looked at me strangely for me to cling to that. I guess I'm just sensitive to static buildup or whatever.
Oh, and Jonathan? Your most recent comment is a small treasure to me. Thank you!
So comic-book writers are Byrne again?
The satanic cults, of course, didn't seem to have much in the way of internal politics going on, despite all those political figues, judges, lawyers and teachers who were alleged to be members (not any specific names, mind you, just that there were supposed to be a lot of rich and powerful people in them so that they could so completely hide *all* evidence of their own existence), nor any specific theology. They existed only to sacrifice victims, sexually abuse kids, and impregnate young women to make them give birth to more victims. Does that sound like an organization of humans?
I'm a little disappointed that hitherby decided on "Night of the Antinomian" rather than picking the far more entertaining Circumcellion Heresy of north Africa.
Circumcellions were radical Donatists who regarded martyrdom as the highest end and carried big clubs. They used to waylay travelling merchants in remote places and have conversations along the following lines:
SCENE: an isolated pass in Numidia.
M. CAECILIUS METO, A TRAVELLING MERCHANT: Stand back, you devils! What do you want? I warn you, if you are bandits, you will not take my wares without a fight!
JUGO, A CIRCUMCELLION: Peace, heathen scum. We are Circumcellions, faithful (although unorthodox) followers of Christ. We desire only to die in Christ and join him in Heaven.
METO: Well, so you say. What's with the club, then?
JUGO: Ah, I was coming to that. Martyr me.
METO: What?
JUGO: Martyr me. Go on, here's my club. A couple of quick swats on the head and it's Eternal Light for me. Yippee!
METO: You've clearly been out in the sun too long. Go and have a lie down under yonder olive tree. I'm not going to beat you to death. I barely know you.
JUGO: Do you deny me salvation? Right! I'll not ask you again. Martyr me or I will beat you very severely with this club (which, for some reason, is called an Israelite) and then steal all your stuff.
METO: ...OK then. Just bend your head forward a bit...
And that, kids, is why there aren't as many Circumcellions around today as there used to be.
You mean I'm not the only person to have audio playback of conversations in my head? From the way the psychiatrist looked at me I thought I had to be.
One odd thing I do is play conversations back in English whatever language they were originally in. Sometimes I could hear my ex's mother speaking in my head so clearly that I had to remind myself I couldn't be hearing her words because she wouldn't have spoken them in English.
Randall - presumably Talking Heads would also be Byrne Again, if they reformed.
Romantic poets? Byron again
Hard-SF writers? Born Egan
(Hey, all the good ones were taken)
ajay - clearly, I have only scratched the surface of possible giant heretic horror movies. There's also a lot of room for romantic comedies and even touching feel-good stories, e.g., where a giant apolinarianist befriends a human child, but then discovers that the Logos wants to hollow the kid out to serve as its vessel. In the end, it turns out it was all a test, like that thing with Abraham. Everyone laughs and laughs.
Jon H: Alas, my head is well proportioned to my body, else I'd offer you a head transplant. Perhaps, if our skulls are similarly sized, a brain transplant...?
Stefan Jones: Gelatinous cube, haha! I find myself wandering, um, wondering what a Beholder would feel like in a human's body. Or vice versa.
ajay: also a "tavern haunter [and] bar hopper" according to Pirate Productions.
That's weird - it's highlighted as a link, but *isn't* a link. Strange.
The URL is:
http://www.pirateproductions.com/word_listc.htm
Marilee - you made me laugh out loud.
JvP - Yes, you are DEFINITELY a "Mathkin."
Generally speaking, otherkin remind me somewhat of the line from "Bull Durham" (I'm going to paraphrase here), "Why is everyone always famous in a former life? Wasn't anyone Joe Schmoe?" Otherkin seem always to be dragons, wolves, elves with mystical powers, etc. Has anyone ever heard of an otherkin who is a vole, a pigeon, or some other pedestrian critter with no romance or special abilities?
Coming in late: Xopher -- "Closest I come to this one is telling people of a Shamanic bent that my power animal is a velociraptor. (It isn't, it's a panther, but they get the joke.)"
So: did you ever study Saurintology? (No, I'm almost serious. It was founded by a "person of a Shamanic bent," too).
There's an Australian ABBA tribute band called Bjorn Again.
Only slightly related to the topic, but I've always wandered why those who believe themselves to be reincarnations always seem to be the reincarnation of a princess, or a high priest, or suchlike? Surely, given the occupational distribution of the past human population they'd most likely to have been a peasant (or a hunter, or a factory worker...) It can't be because they think of themselves as somehow "special" can it? Noooo....
[Slaps head!] Sorry, didn't see Jill Smith's reference to Bull Durham! My comment was just a reincarnation of that one obviously.
T: That sounds like what I call the harmonic. It's the rhythm to write against. Getting that straight for a project helps keep tone consistent. It gets driven out by earworms, which is why I'm so picky about music when I'm writing. Sometimes it seems to me less like talking in another language and more like the pure seam of language that lies underneath words.
"Why is everyone always famous in a former life? Wasn't anyone Joe Schmoe?"
One theory to answer to this is that although reincarnation is false, people's lives do leave "echoes". (This ties in with ghosts, too). Certain people hear the echoes and think they are memories. Obviously the more intense a person's life, the greater the echo and the more people likely to hear it.
I only have an occasional (sometimes sardonic) sound track of "songs appropriate to the situation" popping into my head. I *wish* I had dreams of being taller, or smoothly levitating to reach all those things on top shelves, but alas....
Then again, as part of my convoluted religious background, I was part of a charismatic prayer group at my then-parish and learned to "speak in tongues", a skill I still practice occasionally, if only in the bathtub. That combined with a hot bath can be very relaxing!
That's pretty much the thing I do...minus the supportive religious background. I've been doing glossolalia my entire life. In the ritual I spoke of, it's the trance induction.
We call such things "spiritual technology." Some of them can be adapted to a variety of religious frames, and glossolalia is one of them.
Nick - never heard of Saurintology. It sounds delightfully silly in a "you've GOT to be kidding" kind of way.
Jill - a friend of mine pointed out that most of us, for most of our previous lives, had to have been Chinese peasants.
I've pointed out that there are now more people alive than have ever lived and died since the genus Homo first appeared. (Am I the only one who thinks this is terrifying?) Even leaving out the fact that many of those people were repeats, that means there have to be SOME of us -- great numbers, actually -- who are on our first goaround on this plane.
Since "old souls" are considered more sensible and mature and spiritually advanced, this explains a lot about the world and its upfuckèdness.
As for the pigeons and voles -- I'm sure they exist, but they don't tell anyone. Or never notice, because they're busy trying to struggle UP TO the standard of being human...I can name some people I'm pretty well convinced are otherkin slugs, for example.
Only slightly more seriously, some otherkin claim that the reason they're in human form is that their natural form cannot exist in this world. This is more commonly held among the dragons and wyverns than the wolves and panthers.
My own personal theory on this is that some of these people are just inventing things to get attention, and a subset of them drift into actual delusions. Others are having a spiritual experience like the one I had when I "danced my power animal" at a Pagan gathering, but in a completely different cultural frame.
In the frame that comes from the cultures where shamanism is practiced, each individual is held to have a "power animal." This is a specific animal that was once a living creature, and is now a spirit. It gives the human person its strength and other virtues, in exchange for being able to live and breathe again (a good deal for both parties IMO).
But our culture has no such beliefs or framework. So what happens when a person in our culture has the experience that elsewhere might be interpreted as "feeling your power animal"?
What our culture DOES have is a belief that some people are transgendered (this is borne out by science, apparently, but is new as a cultural frame). It doesn't surprise me at all that people are interpreting their experiences as being "transspecied" -- just as the same people who used to be "taken by the Elves" are now "kidnapped by aliens."
I think it might be a helpful metaphor in either case. I know my power animal metaphor helps me when I need to be aggressive, and when I dance. Whether it's capital-T True is much less important.
"danced my power animal"
Is that what they call it now?
*runs away*
I am an appendix-less man trapped in an appendixful man's body. Unfortunately, HMO Blue won't pay for the removal of an uninfected appendix. Until I am either lucky enough to get appendicitis or rich enough to pay full price for the surgery, I must carry around this lump of useless, alienated flesh in my body, separating me from my true nature.
I'm not too fond of my lymph nodes, either.
If you form a community around some shared interest, sooner or later someone in it is going to get Born Again and start preaching Jesus—unless it’s a born-again group to start with, in which case someone will begin selling Amway ...
I hope nobody takes this the wrong way, but -- speaking as an atheist with no hint of Christianity in his family tree -- it has often seemed to me that there are striking similarities between an Amway sales pitch and the way a convinced Christian goes about trying to evangelize a heathen (like me). Did the Amway founders deliberately adopt their sales tactics by analysing religious missionary practices? And why do so many folks seem to find the act of selling so spiritually comforting?
Jason and Jill Smith:
Thank you. My serious subtext is that people who feel compelled to be something other than a mundane human seek a supportive individual, or support group. Having found one or more, it becomes "safe" to feel that way, which can be an enormous relief, and very empowering. The down-side is that there is no bright line between "supportive" and "codependent." Hence "folie a deux" and cults of all kinds.
Many of us on the blog have found the Literary culture, the Science Fiction/Fantasy culture, the scholarly culture, the military culture, the religious culture, the Red Sox nation, or the Knitting Culture essential to our wellbeing.
My latest support group:
The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences.
Earlier, on another thread, I'd mentioned how I had a number of able-to-be-cited 1-sentence contributions there. More seriously, I have been getting more and more of abstracts (key equation, key results, key references, key hotlinks) accepted by the editorial board at AT&T Research, under the leadership of Dr. Neil A. J. Sloane. I now have 32 entries there (use their search toggled to:
Enter a []sequence, [*]word, or []sequence number:
Jonathan Vos Post
to see the list. There are another dozen or so undergoing editorial review. The result? I get emails from people in Tennessee, Paris, and Belgrade (to take this morning's inbox) commenting on my results or on my comments. Also, I gave a paperclipped-coverpaged bundle of over 20 of these to my Department Chairman and the Academic Vice President, as input to the decisionmaking on the Spring 2005 math classes assignments, to start about 3 Jan 2005. Right now they are in an anomaly, where my wife (full-time Professor of Physics) has been assigned the Intermediate Algebra classes that I teach, leaving me no classes at all. De facto demotion for outpublishing the rest of the department, and for getting the highest rating from students.
The VP rolls his eyes, and starts working behind the scenes to correct the anomaly. Meanwhile students come to me and my wife in the parking lots and on the lawns of campus in a panic, as they have heard great things about our teaching and don't want these classes from the wrong person.
I also have 120 contributions to:
I've drawn this tentative conclusion, where by "Literature" I include "A Literature" (i.e. the Literature of the American West, or the Biomedical Literature):
Post's First Law of Literature:
Literature is a Slow Blog!
IIRC Amway's founder, Richard Devos is an evangelical Christian.
Regarding satanic abuse narratives - I've read the (ur-?)narrative Michelle Remembers, and feel that I should point out the klutziness of much of that cult's behaviour. At one point they put little Michelle inside a wooden devil-statue and push small reptiles through the mouth opening onto her. Naturally, she scoops them back out again, and they don't know what to do about it. I vaguely recall that on another occasion she messes up their ritual by either vomiting or wetting herself, and they don't have a plan in place for dealing with that, either. Which leads me to suspect that they had not really thought through the complexities of dealing with small children.
"Amway's founder, Richard Devos is an evangelical Christian."
No relation to my Vos family, whose most famous member of this generation is the brilliant and successful comedian:
He has a really useful and attractive web site. His material, beyond what the networks aired when he was a finalist on "Last Comic Standing" and a judge in that show's second season, is rather "blue."
Those who offered condolences when he finished 3rd on "Last Comic Standing" were told "Waddaya mean failure? I earn 3 times as much since then, while working fewer hours."
As Saint Robert Zimmerman said:
"There's no success like failure, and failure's no success at all."
I have to chime in on the side of people with voices in their heads. I actually get three or four different *kinds* (although all in the same "voice) -- I get "what I'm going to say, only two seconds earlier" (which I wish was more useful for keeping me from saying stupid things), I get "replays of old conversations", I get "ongoing internal debates," and I get "someone is reading me a book" (although often the "book" is just some ongoing story I have in my head).
I thought that was normal? Reinforcing social mores, and all of that?
Re. hypnogogic auditory hallucinations (and we are talking hypnogogia here, right? not mild schizophrenia?): Courtesy of a thorough musical education, I often hear entire phantom orchestras. The music is incredibly rich and detailed, and it's usually this close to something I could easily transcribe, but just beyond my abilities. The style is like a mix of Bernard Herrmann and Bela Bartok. Neither of which is a style of music I do professionally.
Re. werewolves: After gorging myself on the Universal "Wolf-Man" DVD box, I did a bit of research into actual werewolf lore. It turns out that 90% of what we "know" about werewolves was invented out of whole cloth by Curt Siodmak in 1939/40. In European folklore, a werewolf was a type of witch who used spells and fetish items to intentionally transform into a wolf to kill enemies and steal livestock. During the inquisition, werewolves were typically invoked to solve otherwise unsolvable crimes.
If otherkin were a work of fiction (rather than simply a piece of work), I would say it was just a cheap, unimaginative mashup of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Island of Dr. Moreau.
Xopher: on the more people alive now than there ever were, see John Brunner's chilling short story "The Vitanulls", which takes reincarnation theory as hard science and looks at the implications.
Xopher: I've pointed out that there are now more people alive than have ever lived and died since the genus Homo first appeared. (Am I the only one who thinks this is terrifying?)
It's not the least bit terrifying, because it's not the least bit true. The best estimate I've seen, based on ecosystem carrying capacities over the past few million years, is that 110 billion members of genus Homo have ever lived, and the dead outnumber the living by something like 18:1. Even if you assume that the entire human species sprang from Eve's loins shortly after 4004 BCE, reasonable models of population growth produce results showing that the dead outnumber the living by something between 5:1 and 10:1.
Darkhawk: 'Tis worth noting that there is evidence that the brain structures of transgendered folks are, in fact, not in accord with their external genitalia, and that when they go on hormones their brain function improves (because it's being submerged in the chemistry that suits its structure better).
So it doesn't strike me so much as a "somehow", but as a "we know how already, because we can point at the different brain structures on a CAT scan, what we don't know yet is how that happens".
You can't see function on a CAT scan, only structure. I think you meant a positron emission tomography scan.
Seth Gordon: I bet you would be remembering your lymfh nodes fondly if you got rid of them.
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