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      <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby</title>
      <description>By John M. Ford, from the Infernokrusher thread: [From Verona Total Breakdown (Liebestod), a forgotten early Infernokrusher work by Bill...</description>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #1 from James D. Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from James D. Macdonald on 23.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Sounds a lot like the Leonardo di Caprio version.</p>
	 <p>Posted June 23, 2005  1:19 PM by James D. Macdonald</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #2 from Andrew Plotkin</title>
         <description>comment from Andrew Plotkin on 23.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Survey says, "I want a t-shirt of the closing couplet of that."</p>
	 <p>Posted June 23, 2005  2:39 PM by Andrew Plotkin</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #3 from Steve Eley</title>
         <description>comment from Steve Eley on 23.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>It's amazing how Romeo & Juliet is the default choice for all style pastiches.  I once started doing it for <a href="http://www.madapeden.com" rel="nofollow">Mad Ape Den</a> and got most of the way through Act I Scene I.  Then I realized the Den has no address to send new submissions to, and I never figured out how to ask for an e-mail address.  </p>

<p>But man, it was fun.</p>

<p><br />
<i>THE FEW WHO SAY IT ALL:<br />
Two of a hut, all in a rut<br />
In hip V'na, as we lay our yap,<br />
A bad old way has got a new bad day<br />
As hip kin can put a hip paw in the sap.<br />
Out of any bad kid pod, one to a foe<br />
Two in a big big sex way vow to die;<br />
Who got in a bad era, and as two go<br />
The kin of all now say "We may not vie."<br />
The bad day of their oh-so-bad sex way<br />
And the way the kin had got to be bad yet,<br />
So 'til the two did die all had to vie,<br />
We now can put it all up on our set;<br />
So if you put an ear or two our way<br />
We can fix all we did not now say.</i><br />
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	 <p>Posted June 23, 2005  2:48 PM by Steve Eley</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #4 from pericat</title>
         <description>comment from pericat on 23.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>minority vote for t-shirts emblazoned</p>

<p><i>The worthy throwdown's always to the proud,</i><br />
<i>And hammer down is how the hard girls kiss.</i></p>
	 <p>Posted June 23, 2005  2:51 PM by pericat</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #5 from PennyJane</title>
         <description>comment from PennyJane on 23.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p><b>pericat</b>, I second that motion. I'd be even happier if the proceeds went to a foundation for cloning Mike Ford, the better to keep us all provided with alterno-Elizabethan texts.  </p>
	 <p>Posted June 23, 2005  4:52 PM by PennyJane</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #6 from Aconite</title>
         <description>comment from Aconite on 23.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>T-shirt, hell.  I want a "Small arms but hint what demolitions say" tat.</p>
	 <p>Posted June 23, 2005  5:03 PM by Aconite</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #7 from Dan Blum</title>
         <description>comment from Dan Blum on 23.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Surely there's room on this extremely hypothetical shirt for more than one couplet of that.  If not the whole thing, I vote for starting with Juliet's first lines.</p>
	 <p>Posted June 23, 2005  5:31 PM by Dan Blum</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #8 from pericat</title>
         <description>comment from pericat on 23.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>oh, but if you start with Juliet, you miss out on:</p>

<p><i>These lips are two shaped charges, primed and hot,</i><br />
<i>That wait the go-code for delivery.</i></p>

<p>Which would, come to think of it, be a fine t-shirt also.</p>

<p>Do the whole thing up, in a rainbow of assorted couplets and colours and fonts. Then exhort people to collect the whole set. Pay your rent through Christmas, I'll bet.</p>

<p>Mr Ford is a genius. (she said, stating the obvious)</p>
	 <p>Posted June 23, 2005 11:33 PM by pericat</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #9 from elise</title>
         <description>comment from elise on 24.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Do one with the whole thing, available also as tote bag or messenger bag, and also do the couplets and snippets.</p>

<p>(Proceeds to the John M. Ford Trust Fund, which for the past few years has helped pay Mike's insurance and medical bills, would be helpful; it's not cloning Mr. Ford that is needed so much as keeping the current model in running order. Thus endeth the  pep talk, brought to you by one of the members of the Society for the Preservation of Mike.)</p>

<p>I really want one of those with the whole thing on it. And the "hard girls" one, too. Oh, yeah.</p>
	 <p>Posted June 24, 2005  1:04 AM by elise</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #10 from NelC</title>
         <description>comment from NelC on 24.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>And like the better-known of Shakespeare's ouevre, chock full of potential novel titles: <i>How the Hard Girls Kiss, Small Arms But Hint, The Worthy Throwdown, Wait the Go-Code...</i></p>
	 <p>Posted June 24, 2005 10:42 AM by NelC</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #11 from Sigrid Ellis</title>
         <description>comment from Sigrid Ellis on 24.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Another vote on the me-too platform -- I'd love Cafe Press products with the whole text on it.</p>
	 <p>Posted June 24, 2005 12:51 PM by Sigrid Ellis</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #12 from jennR</title>
         <description>comment from jennR on 24.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Yet another me-too, especially to elise's idea.  Any or all.  I'd even wear them around town (rather than just to cons or gatherings). And I <strong>hate</strong> having to explain my shirt to everyone....</p>
	 <p>Posted June 24, 2005  1:59 PM by jennR</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #13 from John M. Ford</title>
         <description>comment from John M. Ford on 24.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>We here at Speculative Engineering are, uncharacteristically, moving to meet audience demand.  Will be firing up Corel later today, objective, .png.  (As in "start up the maching that goes .png, Doctor.")  Proceeds will go to the Medical Fund (which is unfortuately not deductible) and at least two shirts and a coffee mug ought to be involved.  Please don't spread the word until I announce that all systems are go; then you may spread it like honey on Pooh.</p>

<p>And thank you, everybody.</p>
	 <p>Posted June 24, 2005  2:33 PM by John M. Ford</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #14 from Jon H</title>
         <description>comment from Jon H on 25.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Anyone catch the big InfernoKrusher reading today in St. Louis?</p>

<p>Dunno who the author was, but CNN was showing lots of fire, and flaming gas cylinders jetting off, out of control.</p>

<p>Whoever it was, that's somebody to watch.</p>
	 <p>Posted June 25, 2005 12:05 AM by Jon H</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #15 from John M. Ford</title>
         <description>comment from John M. Ford on 25.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Thanks to the miracle of Bezier Curves (the shop's got props, cause the vandals pulled the handles), the <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/speceng" rel="nofollow">  Speculative Engineering Techstore</a> seems to be now up and running.</p>

<p>Right now we've got most of the shirts, and the carrier and messenger bags, showing the whole sonnet; items like mugs will probably feature the pithier extracts.  Suggestions are welcome, of course.</p>

<p>More news as it happens.</p>
	 <p>Posted June 25, 2005  5:09 AM by John M. Ford</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #16 from TexAnne</title>
         <description>comment from TexAnne on 25.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Well, phooey kablooey! The tote bag's already sold out! (OTOH, I did get to invent the first Infernokrusher-specific cussword.)</p>
	 <p>Posted June 25, 2005  9:19 AM by TexAnne</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #17 from John M. Ford</title>
         <description>comment from John M. Ford on 25.Jun.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>Actually, the tote bag showed as "sold out" as soon as I finished loading the data, so I assume (since I would think that CafePress prints on demand) that they're simply out of blank bags.</p>

<p>Probably all going over to Transylvania Poly. U.</p>
	 <p>Posted June 25, 2005  9:47 AM by John M. Ford</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #18 from Hilary Hertzoff</title>
         <description>comment from Hilary Hertzoff on 13.Jul.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p>I bought a pink jr. ringer t-shirt, size x-large, only to find that it was too small for me.</p>

<p>The nice people at Cafe Press replaced it with a nice boring white t-shirt, but told me not to send the other back, so I have a spare shirt available for cost of postage to the first person who sends me an e-mail.</p>
	 <p>Posted July 13, 2005  7:14 PM by Hilary Hertzoff</p></content:encoded>
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         <title>Billy the Shake goes to the Demo Derby -- comment #19 from Jonathan Vos Post</title>
         <description>comment from Jonathan Vos Post on 14.Jul.05</description>
         <content:encoded><p><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/07/050714004502.htm" rel="nofollow">Secret Sex Life Of Killer Fungus</a>.</p>

<p>"A fungus that causes life-threatening infections in humans may be having sex, say scientists.<br />
Aspergillus fumigatus, a fungus that has also been linked to asthma, had always been thought to reproduce asexually. But a study by researchers at Nottingham and Manchester universities has revealed that the fungus has a series of genes required for sexual reproduction. The discovery, published in the science journal Current Biology..."  </p>

<p>Lost interest when I didn't find out what kind of truck has a backseat where the Killer fungi have sex.<br />
</p>
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