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      <description>The Times-Picayune has been on the story all along: The Saturday after Hurricane Katrina drowned my city, I sat alone...</description>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #1 from Moi</title>
         <description>comment from Moi on 21.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, so much, for posting that.</p>

<p>They deserve the goddamned Pulitzer, is what I think.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 21, 2005  7:28 PM by Moi&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #2 from hrc</title>
         <description>comment from hrc on 21.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That kind of writing puts the WaPo and the NYT to shame.  They've been sitting on their cushy tushes for way too long, republishing the administration spin as real stories.  I hope they read the Times Picayune and are embarassed enough to remember or perhaps understand for the first time what a journalist's true calling is.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 21, 2005  9:28 PM by hrc&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #3 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on 21.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deserved: Pulitzer prizes, pullet surprises (for the award dinner) and some kind of medal for Above and Beyond the Call.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 21, 2005  9:45 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #4 from Kayjay</title>
         <description>comment from Kayjay on 21.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above reminds me of why I'd never really make it as a journalist. I don't have the sinews for it. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 21, 2005  9:57 PM by Kayjay&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #5 from Terry Karney</title>
         <description>comment from Terry Karney on 21.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"With rue my heart is laden"</p>

<p>I used to do this.  Never at that level of need, but I used to do this. Now I fill the sandbags and haul people out of the wreckage, or would it they called.</p>

<p>They still haven't called us up, but Rita is coming, and my bags are still packed.  Reading the news is painful.  The bitter pain of frustration.  The story is there, the need for the Guard is there and I am here, serving by waiting.</p>

<p>Thank you.  A small bit of chatharsis to read this and cry.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 21, 2005  9:59 PM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #6 from kathy</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy shit.</p>

<p>they are all heros.  pass the pulitzers and whatever else is handy.  if these folks were not on the scene, i can only imagine how much worse things might have been, and how much less we might have known.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 21, 2005 10:17 PM by kathy&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #7 from Michael Falcon-Gates</title>
         <description>comment from Michael Falcon-Gates on 21.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pulitzer, ha. Not that they won't get the award, not  that they don't deserve it, but.. y'know, for the last thirty years, the inspiration for young reporters has been Woodward and Bernstein. That might change, a bit.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 21, 2005 10:20 PM by Michael Falcon-Gates&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #8 from kate</title>
         <description>comment from kate on 21.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this one for your mother?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 21, 2005 10:27 PM by kate&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #9 from julia</title>
         <description>comment from julia on 21.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read pieces of this in Newsday. I have to say that as a former, terribly disullusioned, journalism major this story made me cry.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 21, 2005 11:45 PM by julia&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #10 from Shunra</title>
         <description>comment from Shunra on 22.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa, thanks for that. The reading was a very good release for all that fury and frustration that has been building up and not quite properly find outlet in the past few weeks.</p>

<p>And PJ, might I contend that rather than "above and beyond" that is actually the clearest expression of the call (The Call?) that has been seen in the media for a good long while? </p>

<p>There *is* a call for people, I believe, and people who listen well enough get to do that sort of expression of it, I think. Be it an inward thing, made of biologically controlled impulses or an outward pressure, intelligent or otherwise, seeing that call/calling responded to so heroically was one of the satisfying aspects of reading the story. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 22, 2005 12:03 AM by Shunra&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #11 from Adrian</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should create a new journalism award.  The Pulitzer isn't enough for these folks.  People doing brilliant journalism from the center of catastrophe should get Picayunes.  I don't know how to write the spec so it would include people reporting on radiation sickness from Nagasaki in August, 1945, while excluding all the embedded storm trackers (even if some of them end up in the center of a catastrophe.)  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 22, 2005  1:28 AM by Adrian&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #12 from Janni</title>
         <description>comment from Janni on 22.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know if there's a way to donate toward the Times-Picayune's continued operations?  I've emailed asking this, but not surprisingly their autoresponder says they're pretty backed up, so if anyone else already knows, I'd love to hear about it.</p>

<p>If not, I'll pass on what I hear whenever they do get back to me.  Supporting their continued coverage--in a time when they have, indeed, lost much of their financial base--seems a worthy thing to do.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 22, 2005 11:15 AM by Janni&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #13 from TomB</title>
         <description>comment from TomB on 22.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They take advertising. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 22, 2005 12:05 PM by TomB&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #14 from Mark Wise</title>
         <description>comment from Mark Wise on 22.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pulitzers, sure.  They're a start.</p>

<p>We need another award for those journalists who tell the truth in 12-foot letters of fire, "Look! See! We're in this together.  This is what it means to be human."</p>

<p>The T-P staff gets that one, no contest.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 22, 2005 12:26 PM by Mark Wise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #15 from Barbara</title>
         <description>comment from Barbara on 22.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a "be careful what you wish for" because it's a reporter's dream story.  It's the reason  one goes into journalism, to cover a really big story first hand.  It's the reason reporters consented to be imbedded with troups in Iraq, and what made Ernie Pyle such a great reporter during World War II.  Such experiences and stories   make up the continental divides of our lives, and certainly for the Times-Picayune staff  everything will  be ante- and post Katrina. Strangely, the pictures are easy.  They're 360 degrees from wherever the photographer is standing, but  digesting then interpreting the photos, that's the work. There was absolute beauty in the detail of this story.  Thanks for the link.    <br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 22, 2005 12:47 PM by Barbara&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #16 from Terry Karney</title>
         <description>comment from Terry Karney on 22.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara:  You're right, stories like this (which one always wants, and never expects) are touchstone moments.  </p>

<p>As I said elsewhere, about awards, these guys deserve them, but in a trade where the motto is, "what have you done lately," these few can say, "I was with the Times-Picayune, <i>in</i> New Orleans," when like the aged heros of Shakespeare's Agincourt,</p>

<p><i>"... gentlemen in England now a-bed<br />
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,<br />
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks<br />
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day."</i></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 22, 2005  4:33 PM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #17 from Janni</title>
         <description>comment from Janni on 22.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They take advertising.</i></p>

<p>I thought about that-for the web version, starting at something like $1500 100K minimum impressions.  (Haven't found info on print rates.)</p>

<p>If there's no way to donate in smaller amounts, I suppose we could take up a collection for an ad, maybe.</p>

<p>Will wait a bit to see if I hear back first, though.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 22, 2005  5:25 PM by Janni&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #18 from Kristjan Wager</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one having problems accessing the article? Hopefully I can do so at a later stage.</p>

<p>The journalists have done a tremendous job of covering the disaster. Journalists from other news outlets have also been good (I've evenm been impressed by some of the Fox people), but nothing like the T-P staff.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 23, 2005  2:49 PM by Kristjan Wager&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #19 from Fernmonkey</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristjan: it's cached on Google.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 24, 2005  7:45 AM by Fernmonkey&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #20 from Renee</title>
         <description>comment from Renee on 24.Sep.05</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A different take on what happened in NOLA: a friend of the the 2-I-C of a FEMA med team posts the guy's write-up about his experiences at the Superdome.</p>

<p>Not for the squeamish.</p>

<p>http://www.livejournal.com/users/neodymium155/</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 24, 2005 11:26 PM by Renee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #21 from Erik Nelson</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this in an ad in a Boston rock weekly: </p>

<p>aan.org/gambitfund</p>

<p>Emergency fund to help out the staff of the New Orleans Gambit.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 26, 2005 12:21 PM by Erik Nelson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Hero-tales of the newspaper tribe -- comment #22 from Cady</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I've been avoiding the news on Katrina; partly because it's too much to take in, partly because I'm a bit jaded about the "if it bleeds it leads" crowd.</p>

<p>  This story, I couldn't tear my eyes from. There was so much personal humanity expressed by the journalist writing the article.  It truly brought home to me the massive enormity of the loss that is Hurricane Katrina. The loss of lives is devastating, but the loss of basic human dignity is a tragedy of it's own. I'm not sure who my heart goes out to the most: those mourning the loss of their loved ones, or those who have to live with the memories of surviving Katrina, of surviving the filth, the hunger, and the fear.  The fact is these journalists voluntarily embraced those experiences, a heroic act in and of itself. But, by listening, simply listening, to the stories of the survivors, by saying "your suffering matters, please let me tell others about it..." and being the survivors' voice in a dark and dangerous hour, they did more than their just their jobs; they returned to the survivors a small measure of their human dignity. A Pulitzer Prize can't begin to touch that. No award can.</p>

<p>Cady</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted September 27, 2005 10:03 AM by Cady&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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